Bib, trouble with hanger adjustments

I am having a lot of trouble understanding the difference between toe-in and toe-out, I dont know how to properly adjust the hanger to my penis and i also am having a lot of trouble just trying to put the wrapping material on. I have read the product guide and i am still confused. I have had my bib hanger for months and never used it because of all these problems. Please help.

"..having a lot of trouble understanding the difference between toe-in and toe-out"

Perhaps this picture will help?

Fausto,

>I am having a lot of trouble understanding the difference between toe-in and toe-out, I dont know how to properly adjust the hanger to my penis and i also am having a lot of trouble just trying to put the wrapping material on. I have read the product guide and i am still confused. I have had my bib hanger for months and never used it because of all these problems. Please help.<

Why didn't you say something before now? There is no need to suffer.

OK, what are the symptoms? What specific problems are you having with wrapping and with the hanger?

Do you have the ability to take and post pics?

Bigger

I'm sorry that i did not say anything before, i am so busy working and i felt bad because i bought a Bib hanger and never used it, but i want to start using it now. I dont want it to just lay there day after day.

My first problem is the wrapping material, when i stretch my penis out and smooth my skin back and then i try to put on the teraband, i have a hard time trying to roll the teraband around my penis and sometimes i accidentally let go of my penis and use my two hands to try and put on the teraband. Could you advise me on the best way to put on the teraband so i can use one hand to stretch out my penis and use the other hand to put on the teraband. I am right handed.

Bib i cant take pics and post them, im sorry about that.

My other problem is making the proper hanger adjustments to suit my penis. Fully erect in length i am 6.3 inches and in girth i am 5.5 inches mid shaft. I have made adjustments on the two wing nut at the bottom of the hanger and then on the two nuts that are near the hinge, what i did was i moved the two nuts near the hinge about half an inch. Was i right to adjust these two nuts. If you need any more information, please let me know.

Regards Fausto

Fausto,

My first problem is the wrapping material, when i stretch my penis out and smooth my skin back and then i try to put on the teraband, i have a hard time trying to roll the teraband around my penis and sometimes i accidentally let go of my penis and use my two hands to try and put on the teraband. Could you advise me on the best way to put on the teraband so i can use one hand to stretch out my penis and use the other hand to put on the teraband. I am right handed.<

First, I hope you have cut the Theraband into strips, either three, 2 inch strips, or four, 1.5 inch strips. The Theraband is not exactly six inches wide, but close. The two inch strips are probably better. About 18 inches of wrap should be enough. But you can cut it into longer strips to begin, and get a feel for how much you will need.

Then to wrap: Grasp the head with your left forefinger and thumb, and stretch out your penis. If you are cut, start the wrap at about your circ scar, at least one inch behind the coronal ridge. If uncut, roll the skin back enough to grasp the head and stretch, but do not pull the skin back further. Then start your wrap about one inch behind the coronal ridge.

Start wrapping from the underside of your shaft. Place the leading edge of wrap on the shaft, then hold it with your other fingers of your left hand. Make your first pass straight around your shaft, without pulling on the Theraband, ie, little or no tension. Then, grasp that first pass around your unit with your right hand, and remove your left hand. Then, transfer your grip on the first pass to your left hand, up at the top of the wrap toward the head. You will be grasping the first pass hard enough to keep it in place, while you continue the gentle stretch of the shaft. Do not stretch so much that the wrap slips over the head, because you will have to start over.

Then, make your second pass around with your right hand, using a bit more tension by pulling the wrap around with your right hand, spiraling down a bit. Once again, grasp the second pass with your right hand, and transfer your left hand from the first pass to the second pass. Then make your third pass with your right hand, and pull with a bit more tension on the wrap.

Continue this process, spiraling down your shaft, and increasing the tension of the wrap a bit with each pass, until you have wrapped enough shaft that the hanger will only contact wrap when attached. Use a bit of scotch tape, electrical tape, or duct tape to secure the last wrap. You should now have a solid wrapped bundle, with the skin collected and covered, on which to attach the hanger.

Before each pass, you can pull the skin back toward the base gently, smoothing the skin back as you wrap. This will help prevent any wrinkled skin under the wrap.

Turn the edge of your tape under a bit, to give a tab with which to easily pull the tape back to unwrap.

For hanger adjustment, please measure the wrapped flaccid girth you have created, and report that measurement to me. I can then get you in the ballpark on how to adjust your hanger.

>Bib i cant take pics and post them, im sorry about that.<

That's ok. We will muddle through with the typed word.

>My other problem is making the proper hanger adjustments to suit my penis. Fully erect in length i am 6.3 inches and in girth i am 5.5 inches mid shaft. I have made adjustments on the two wing nut at the bottom of the hanger and then on the two nuts that are near the hinge, what i did was i moved the two nuts near the hinge about half an inch. Was i right to adjust these two nuts. If you need any more information, please let me know.<

I only need that wrapped flaccid girth measurement.

Be sure you understand, the outer wing nuts are only there to easily release the right half of the hanger, to get into the inner hex nuts. The inner hex nuts are the adjustment nuts. I will let you know about where to place them.

Bigger

Hey bib ,
Im curiuos to know how you think i should adjust too .... I use a 16 1/2 inch theraband by 2 1/2 inch. My girth with the wrap is 4.7 inch , how owuld you suggest i wrap im also uncut and hav issues with slippage or feel like my hanger isnt grabbing the internal structures. Thnx bib and Fausto i hope we can both get this fixed

VSG,

Which type of hanger is it, Starter or regular?

Bigger

Bib hanger not starter which i think is the MAIN issue as i think the starter would be better for my size. Im around 5 ' flaccid , bib im actually thinking bout buying a boib starter cuz my hanger seems to big for me and i just cant get it right..... 5 months of hanging and nothing to show for it. BUT IM STILL TRYING

VSG,

>Bib hanger not starter which i think is the MAIN issue as i think the starter would be better for my size. Im around 5 ' flaccid , bib im actually thinking bout buying a boib starter cuz my hanger seems to big for me and i just cant get it right..... 5 months of hanging and nothing to show for it. BUT IM STILL TRYING<

The issue with gains has more to do with your routine, whether you are attacking your next limiting factors. What weights are you using, what angles, what is your LOT?

Of course, if you feel the hanger is slipping, that would have an effect on how much weight you can hang.

4.7 inches wrapped flaccid girth is a tough area. You probably do not have the bottom hex nut adjustments out any at all, correct? This gives you few options in the comfort area. Now, you can increase your wrapped flaccid girth to about 5.5 inches, using a bit of sweat shirt material as an underwrap, about the same size as your Theraband, maybe 15 inches by two inches. Then, overwrap with the Theraband. This will give you more WFG, and allow you to run the bottom hex nut adjustments out about 5/16 inch (measure hex nut at the hinge to adjustment hex nut). From there, you can make small adjustments for comfort.

This added amount of wrap should not be too bad as far as grasping the internal structures. With the added WFG, you will be able to tweak the adjustments, and get a better grip, even with more wrap. The wrapped bundle will also be more solid.

As always, be sure your top gap when fully tighened, is smaller than the bottom gap. Have the top teeth almost, but not quite, fully meshed. Always leave a bit of room to be able to re-tighten after the weight is applied, and during the set. Just pull the weight up, and retighten.

With some back and forth, we can get your technique down, to where you can hang the amount of weight needed for tissue deformation.

You may find a Starter more comfortable. Surely easier to learn how to hang, how it works. But since you already have a regular, let's try to get it working for you.

Bigger

Ok bib ,
I hang 2 hours a day ( if i can stop slippage, some times less ) at SO direction , my lot is between 7:00 - 8:00. My stats are nbp 6.7 x 5.7 my strecthed length is 7.2.
I believe i cant feel a fatigue i could when hanging BTC i dont know if i feel a fatigue at all hanging SO ... i bring this down to a conclusion that because my hanger keeps slipping i dont get PROPenis EnlargementR inner structure pull rather i get a shit load of skin pull and blood filled head , im uncut and i think this is a huge issue also. I hang around 17-19 lbs for my first set or 2 then drop down to 15 lbs. Im going to try and wrap up to 5.5 girth and then see how that goes , i also bought an Autoextender and wear that about 2 hours a day after hanging so will see how that goes. Any other comments you have for me bib or shopuld i just see how the 5.5 wrap goes and then come back to you. And no my hex nuts havent been touched , i find it weird haven decent girth when erect but flaccid is a different story Thanks for you help bib , much appreciated .

"As always, be sure your top gap when fully tighened, is smaller than the bottom gap."

Please explain the reason for this.

I recall reading somewhere that a lot of the blood supply for an erection is supplied from the underside of the penis shaft. Are the top gap and bottom gap widths related to blood flow? Thanks.

VSG,

>I believe i cant feel a fatigue i could when hanging BTC i dont know if i feel a fatigue at all hanging SO ... i bring this down to a conclusion that because my hanger keeps slipping i dont get PROPenis EnlargementR inner structure pull rather i get a shit load of skin pull and blood filled head ,<

The slipping could be an issue. But with your LOT, you still probably have some potential for gains from lig stretch. Did you switch to SO because you were not getting gains BTC? If so, do you think you were supplying enough stress while hanging BTC to effectively deform the tissues?

>im uncut and i think this is a huge issue also.<

Hanging seems to be a bit tougher for uncut guys. But when they get things right, they seem to have no more trouble than cut guys. The key is to try different things, use rational thought, and get your technique down for your parameters.

>I hang around 17-19 lbs for my first set or 2 then drop down to 15 lbs. Im going to try and wrap up to 5.5 girth and then see how that goes<

Yes. Let me know how that goes, and if you need any help.

>Any other comments you have for me bib or shopuld i just see how the 5.5 wrap goes and then come back to you.<

Right. You will probably feel an entirely different hang with the added wrap and new hanger adjustments. Remember to tighten more, keeping the correct top gap, but adjust to where you are still able to tighten more during the first part of a set.

>And no my hex nuts havent been touched , i find it weird haven decent girth when erect but flaccid is a different story Thanks for you help bib , much appreciated .<

I thought you would not have been able to use the hex nut adjustments. The larger WFG will make a big difference. You will be able to try toeing-out, and other things. During this period of experimentation, think about just going with say ten minute sets, making small adjustments for each set, and see how you like the different settings.

Oscillate,

>As always, be sure your top gap when fully tighened, is smaller than the bottom gap."

Please explain the reason for this.<

This is because of the way the hanger was designed. I wanted the majority of the direct pressure to be on the top sides of the two major chambers, rather than on the dorsal veins/nerves, or the CS and urethra. The top sides of the two major chambers is a much safer area to grasp with great pressure.

As seen from the back, looking down through the shaft well, when tightened, the inner fingers of the hanger should look like this, / \, rather than l l, or \ /.

Now, the front thumbs of the hanger are a different story. They are cocked at a different angle than the inner fingers of the hanger. This is so the pressure on the head is on the sides of the shoulders of the head.

>I recall reading somewhere that a lot of the blood supply for an erection is supplied from the underside of the penis shaft.<

Not really. The bottom chamber, the CS, supplies the bottom chamber and the head with blood. It is seperate from the two major chambers, which actually create the majority of an erection.

>Are the top gap and bottom gap widths related to blood flow? Thanks.<

To an extent, yes. The head receives all of it's blood, the inflow, from the bottom chamber. If the hanger pressure is too great on the bottom chamber, obviously blood flow will be more restricted. The outflow occurs in the dorsal vein. If the top of the shaft receives too much hanger pressure, then return blood flow, and therefore total blood flow, will be restricted.

As for the two major chambers, the blood inflow is from large vessels in the center of each of the chambers. While hanger pressure will restrict this flow, it is hard to cut it off completely. The outflow is from vessels on the top side of the shaft as well. Pressure needs to always be less on the very top of the shaft.

At any rate, just the act of hanging, stretching all of the tissues, will also stretch the blood vessels, and restrict blood flow. That is why I recommend a maximum of twenty minute sets.

Bigger

Hey bib ,
Just replying my results with a thinker wrap. Well i wraped my member up till i meet 5.7 girth and im not getting much slippage at all with 17 lbs ... it slips a little bit till it sits just under the glands only issue i have is my head expands and fills with blood. But thnx bib i think weve got it sorted now

VSG,

>Well i wraped my member up till i meet 5.7 girth and im not getting much slippage at all with 17 lbs ... it slips a little bit till it sits just under the glands only issue i have is my head expands and fills with blood. But thnx bib i think weve got it sorted now <

Woah now Nelly. It might be better, but let's try to get it perfect.

What about adjustments? Are you able to use the hex nuts now, and how did you do it? Are you going to experiment?

Explain about your head filling with blood. Do you mean after the hanger and weight are attached, your head fills with blood? Or before?

When you say the hanger slips and rests just under the head, do you mean on the shoulders of the head, or the head itself? Do you feel the hanger grasping the internal structures? Are you retightening any after first attaching the hanger?

Bigger

Ok the adjustments on the hex nuts are now sitting at about 6mm - 7mm apart , ive tried toe in and toe out and found them more annoying than anything and get more slippage. I squess on ym head b4 i attach my hanger and there isnt much blood in it at all but when i attach the hanger and hang for about 5 min then its filling up and hard. The hanger sits on the shoulders i think when i push my finger into my penis i can feel a tight lig or cc what ever it is its being pulled. When i hang after a while i always tighten every now and then if i feel i need to.

Bib what are your thoughts on this so far ?

Bigger and others,

I tired to edit te above post of mine and I thought I had it more cleared for your reading but I got timed out by the edit clock.

If need be I will type it out again hopefully with less mistakes and more clearer rumblings, if you get my drift.

GMJ

VSG,

>Ok the adjustments on the hex nuts are now sitting at about 6mm - 7mm apart , ive tried toe in and toe out and found them more annoying than anything and get more slippage. I squess on ym head b4 i attach my hanger and there isnt much blood in it at all but when i attach the hanger and hang for about 5 min then its filling up and hard. The hanger sits on the shoulders i think when i push my finger into my penis i can feel a tight lig or cc what ever it is its being pulled. When i hang after a while i always tighten every now and then if i feel i need to.<

OK, that sounds fairly good. After wrapping, before attaching the hanger, try pushing the wrapped bundle over your head a bit, and see if that gets the excess blood out of your head more efficiently. If you think the head is filling with blood while you are hanging, it is probably because the wrap is a smidge too tight. You might try wrapping just a bit looser. If you get any pinching, then tighten back up a bit. There is a happy medium.

Bigger

GMJ,

>You advise VSG to increase his WFG by increasing his lenght og wrap. You then advised him to open his bottom screwes both front and back to 5/16 inch. If I am understanding your advice this was to give him room to move the adj. nuts front and back, in and out to allow VSG to achieve the / \ shape when viewed from behind.<

To an extent, yes. But the greater reason is to make sure he can tighten the hanger sufficiently to prevent slipping. With zero hex nut adjustment, the hex nuts moved all the way in, that will be the correct setting for just a very few guys, depending on their WFG. The attitude of the inner finger CAN be correct with zero hex nut adjutment, but not for most guys. The area around 4.5 inch WFG is a tough one with a regular hanger. It usually takes more than that to see all the benefits of the hanger.

>This increase in WFG and bottom adj. of nuts also allows him to vary his top teeth gap, or I called it sometimes the amount of mess of the top teeth. Now VSG has room to tighten more if he feels it is needed.<

Well, he needs to adjust the bottom hex nuts in order to get the correct gap on top when fully tightened. It is a trial and error process. But, a bit of room should always be left to tighten more during a set.

>My present hanging journery has me with the / \ shape already and hex nut gap on the bottom of about 13mm front and back. Also you may recall that I am now rolling the wrap up before wrapping and trying to wrap tighter then previously before. The result now is for the same wrap lenght I am achieving a smaller WFG then before. Now which is a more better way to achieve correct top teeth mesh in my case?<

If you are at 13 mm now, you have plenty of adjustment to get the correct top gap for your WFG. Just play with it a bit, moving in or out, the hex nuts a quarter or half a turn. You can make a lot of progress just looking for a more comfortable setting.

>Is it by now increesing my wrapping lenght hence increasing my WFG and stay and the same hanger settings. In thoery this should have the effect of giving me more top teeth meshing adj.<

If I understand correctly, you do not need any more WFG. Once you have enough to utilize the adjustments, you just have to find the correct adjustment for you.

>Should I leave the wrapped lenght the same and hence have the same new smaller WFG BUT adj. my bottom hex nuts in alittle giving my the same result with the top teeth amount of mesh. I.E I can tighten more at the top wing nut.<

I think this last paragraph is correct. If you are still around the 13 mm between the hex nuts, and I understand correctly, you have plenty of room to adjust the hanger with your tighter WFG.

>I feel I now need to achive a tighter hanger grip on the shaft now I am wrapping tighter. SO in Summary is it better to increase the WFG or adj the hex nuts closer to achieve a firm grip on the shaft?<

For each guy, and for each WFG for each guy, there is one set of adjustments that will feel most comfortable. But each guy can have a variety of WFG measurements, depending on the amount of wrap, the flaccid girth, and how tight he wraps. As long as you are around 5.5 inches of WFG, you should have plenty of room to play with the adjustments, and get the correct top gap, when fully tightened.

This tends to sound more complicated than it is. I think you understand, or at least, I hope so.

Bigger

Bigger,

I reckon I undastand. I will try tonight wth same WFG and then adj. the nuts in a turn her and there.

Thanks mate for your help.

GMJ