Where can anyone obtain DHT?

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"Transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy and its effects on patients with microphallus.

Choi SK, Han SW, Kim DH, de Lignieres B.

Department of Urology, Yonsei University College of Medicine, Seoul, Korea.

To investigate the efficacy of transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy on 22 patients with microphallus, we applied dihydrotestosterone gel for 8 weeks to the external genitalia at daily doses of 12.5 mg. and 25 mg. for ages less than and older than 10 years, respectively. All patients were evaluated for penile and prostatic growth, pituitary-gonadal axis function, serum sex hormone binding globulin, lipid metabolism, hepatotoxicity, bone age and height velocity. All patients demonstrated growth of the penis during treatment. The mean increase rate (153%) in the first 4 weeks of treatment was higher than that (118%) of the second 4 weeks. Of importance is that responses were noted in 4 patients who had failed testosterone therapy for microphallus. The pituitary-gonadal axis was transiently suppressed during treatment, and serum sex hormone binding globulin and lipid metabolism were transiently affected during treatment. Serum alkaline phosphatase increased, mainly due to change of bone isoenzyme but bone ages and mean height velocity were not significantly affected. In conclusion, transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy is an effective and relatively safe modality in the treatment of microphallus.

PMID: 8326617 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]"

Source:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/8326617?dopt=Abstract

Does anyone know where to obtain DHT gel or Raw DHT (Combined with DMSO it may be effective)?

Andractim is a good site,but I was wondering if there are more?
 
It is 100% safe PB.
I will use it as soon as I get my salary ;)

Here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] there are members who have gained 1/4 - 0.5 inches in 30 days using DHT.
Remmember,it is the Topical Gel we want and not Injection.
 
Yah,I read about DHT being added to routines,from the link you provided in this thread.It definitely makes sense,and looks very promising.But the guy says in the article to cycle 2 months on with gel,and then 1 month off.A few questions...1.So regarding this,could using the gel possibly screw up the own bodies DHT production?2.After using gel for awhile or however long needed,and attaining results,will the gains go away or are they permanent gains?3.I know and understand that the DHT gel is safe,but is this gel form at least closely comparable to the bodies own made DHT,as opposed to injection DHT?Sorry for all these questions,but I seriously would love to use this,and yet at the same time don't want to screw up my own testosterone/DHT production by lowering it somehow...would that even happen?Help clear these things up please.Hope to talk to you soon.Thank you.
 
penisbuilder;343371 said:
Yah,I read about DHT being added to routines,from the link you provided in this thread.It definitely makes sense,and looks very promising.But the guy says in the article to cycle 2 months on with gel,and then 1 month off.A few questions...1.So regarding this,could using the gel possibly screw up the own bodies DHT production?2.After using gel for awhile or however long needed,and attaining results,will the gains go away or are they permanent gains?3.I know and understand that the DHT gel is safe,but is this gel form at least closely comparable to the bodies own made DHT,as opposed to injection DHT?Sorry for all these questions,but I seriously would love to use this,and yet at the same time don't want to screw up my own testosterone/DHT production by lowering it somehow...would that even happen?Help clear these things up please.Hope to talk to you soon.Thank you.
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DHT does not convert into Estrogen like T does.
It will not screw with your hormones because its a "topical" gel and it is focused on a specific area(Penis in our case).Besides DHT gives you more strenght and muscle,so in the worst case scenario you would become bigger and stronger.
They are permanent if you follow up with an Penis Enlargement routine. Injecting DHT = not recommended...putting needles in your dick O.O.

Hope I cleared up a few things,talk to you later bro.
 
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I think I might actually want to give this a go very soon.And your absolutely positive(I know I must come across paranoid) that upon stopping using the topical gel when I have accomplished my goals,that my body will still produce my normal amount of testosterone/DHT?I am excited about using it in conjunction with my routine.So could you get me any discounts on this stuff or what?Oh,also wondering why haven't more people been using this with their routines?Hit me back soon.Thank you bro.
 
penisbuilder;343492 said:
I think I might actually want to give this a go very soon.And your absolutely positive(I know I must come across paranoid) that upon stopping using the topical gel when I have accomplished my goals,that my body will still produce my normal amount of testosterone/DHT?I am excited about using it in conjunction with my routine.So could you get me any discounts on this stuff or what?Oh,also wondering why haven't more people been using this with their routines?Hit me back soon.Thank you bro.
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You need to cycle the DHT gel. 30 days on and then stop using it for a while until your Androreceptors have returned to normal.

With each cycle there has been claims of 1/4-0.5 Inches,which means if you do 2 cycles you could end up with an whole inch in extra lenght or girth.
And 3 cycles = 1.5 Inches etc.
And 4 cycles = ~2 inches.
You get my point ;)

Hehe,If I had a discount I would use it at SaintsClinic but their stuff is the real shit so there is no Discounts to speak of.

You answered your own question before, people do not do things they do not understand which can cause "fear". Many fear Chemicals and steroids because they are uneducated. Fear comes from lack of knowledge.
I myself had feared steroids and chemicals before,but until recently I got into the whole steroid world and understood what a fool Ive been and why our Media is full of Bullshit. Steroids could actually save people from cancer,Aids, Ms etc. If they were legal (But the medical companies has gathered up to bann the most effective steroids so they could sell more of the less effective ones. etc.)

Check out the INJECT show at http://www.steroid.com/video/#top
And click on the video called "Profit Over People" and you will discover some really disturbing things...why money is more worth than saving people from cancer...

Sorry for going Off topic on the last one :)
 
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I think Steroids are some of the most misunderstood drugs out there. Its kinda like Penis Enlargement in a sense some people know and some people think they know.

C. Phantasy is 100% right, DONT TRUST THE MEDIA. I get so pissed off when they start talking about baseball and steroids....So much false info.

.5 a inch is a pretty big claim and one I will be testing soon:) lol

Also anybody know if the extra DHt will have a hair loss side effect?
 
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thegear;343552 said:
I think Steroids are some of the most misunderstood drugs out there. Its kinda like Penis Enlargement in a sense some people know and some people think they know.

C. Phantasy is 100% right, DONT TRUST THE MEDIA. I get so pissed off when they start talking about baseball and steroids....So much false info.

.5 a inch is a pretty big claim and one I will be testing soon:) lol

Also anybody know if the extra DHt will have a hair loss side effect?
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Word bro ;)

The DHT gel is Topical,which means it is focused on the area where it is rubbed into. If you rubb it into your penis it will affect the penis not the hair (Wash hands afterwards just to reduce the risk of putting DHT gel in the hair by accident) ;)
 
Girth Hammer;343570 said:
Is there supplement I can get from vitamin shoppe that can help with DHT cause I cant order stuff online do to noisy people I live with?
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Green tea rasises it by 192%. But Tea contains Caffeine so its a double edged sword.
 
How can raising DHT help and keeping it from raises also help? There are drugs like Saw Palmetto that prevent your body from converting test into DHT and it keeps prostate healthy. Why would you want to stop your body from converting test to DHT?
 
Girth Hammer;343578 said:
How can raising DHT help and keeping it from raises also help? There are drugs like Saw Palmetto that prevent your body from converting test into DHT and it keeps prostate healthy. Why would you want to stop your body from converting test to DHT?
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Testosterone converts into estrogen. DHT does not.
Read the previous posts ;)
 
Im sorry guys but here is the thing..

1) the study you post was done in PRE PUBERTY with MICRO Penis EnlargementNISES.When they got topical dht gel they reach their max size just earlier or with other words when a child get steroids they get into the puberty much earlier.So that doesnt mean they got bigger penis then when they would get no dht and wait till they get into puberty

2) DHT is very old news.10 years back till 2day there are thousands of people using several chemicals like dht gel and also injections with no results including me .I ordered from allsaintclinic.
 
penisbuilder;343371 said:
Yah,I read about DHT being added to routines,from the link you provided in this thread.It definitely makes sense,and looks very promising.But the guy says in the article to cycle 2 months on with gel,and then 1 month off.A few questions...1.So regarding this,could using the gel possibly screw up the own bodies DHT production?2.After using gel for awhile or however long needed,and attaining results,will the gains go away or are they permanent gains?3.I know and understand that the DHT gel is safe,but is this gel form at least closely comparable to the bodies own made DHT,as opposed to injection DHT?Sorry for all these questions,but I seriously would love to use this,and yet at the same time don't want to screw up my own testosterone/DHT production by lowering it somehow...would that even happen?Help clear these things up please.Hope to talk to you soon.Thank you.
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ofcourse it will go systemic .Not as much as injections but the penis have vains and it will go into your bloodstream.I didnt give a shit about becoming bald IF I will get bigger penis.Well... I was damn dissapointed..my hair got thin and my penis didnt get larger.
 
Testosteron20;343604 said:
Im sorry guys but here is the thing..

1) the study you post was done in PRE PUBERTY with MICRO Penis EnlargementNISES.When they got topical dht gel they reach their max size just earlier or with other words when a child get steroids they get into the puberty much earlier.So that doesnt mean they got bigger penis then when they would get no dht and wait till they get into puberty

2) DHT is very old news.10 years back till 2day there are thousands of people using several chemicals like dht gel and also injections with no results including me .I ordered from allsaintclinic.
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Several members here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] reported gains from it. And in theory it will work.
http://www.beabiggerman.com/andractim-gel/
http://www.beabiggerman.com/penis-exercises-andractim-plan.html

Try it again with the plan described in the second link.

Its like saying "Testosterone injection did not work for me,it will not work for you either" which is not the case because if you do it the right way you increase the chances of success.


T,do you have any other DHT supplier? :)
 
Are you going to believe each commercial site on the net dude ? Is it a doctor or a clinical studie done on adults without micropenis?

which theory ? That the DHT receptors are still open? ..haha if this was true then why dont we have all 20 inch penises ..DHT hormone is active in your whole life but thats not the case with the receptors in the penis and epifhyses(forgot the exact name) in your bones.

dont get me wrong , I was very excited about DHT 2 years back (i was 18 ) ,like alot of others that thought pe/jelqing/stretching would be history and we all going to become huge with chemicals but the opposite was true and i got very very depressed because of my small hopes.

And bro ,you dont have to believe me ..just fill up the profile at the allsaintclinic and then you will get two tubes with a psa check and see for your self.

Good luck.
 
Testosteron, I know yourtrying to help out. Thanks for sharing your opinion :)
But since some members have gained using DHT andractim,I will give it a shot.

I choose to belive what works in theory & facts before I make any judgement on a product. Because so many have asked me questions about DHT I have really gotten into it and been reading a lot about how it works with the penile tissue.

There is a study in the other DHT related thread I made about Androgel causing normal sized children to increase in penis size. This is why FDA has declared an warning on many Androgels.

Goldmember made an post about the receptors being very active even at adult age,and if you combined DHT with another drug you would increase the activity. Can not recall but will search for his post.

This does all support the Gvt theory, but I do mostly belive in the Etp Theory made by Wadzilla.

Thanks yet again for sharing your opinion. ;)
Testosteron20;343628 said:
Are you going to believe each commercial site on the net dude ? Is it a doctor or a clinical studie done on adults without micropenis?

which theory ? That the DHT receptors are still open? ..haha if this was true then why dont we have all 20 inch penises ..DHT hormone is active in your whole life but thats not the case with the receptors in the penis and epifhyses(forgot the exact name) in your bones.

dont get me wrong , I was very excited about DHT 2 years back (i was 18 ) ,like alot of others that thought pe/jelqing/stretching would be history and we all going to become huge with chemicals but the opposite was true and i got very very depressed because of my small hopes.

And bro ,you dont have to believe me ..just fill up the profile at the allsaintclinic and then you will get two tubes with a psa check and see for your self.

Good luck.
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Hello all. I'm new here @ the forum but i'm not new to Penis Enlargement; I've been active at another forum for a few years and know my stuff pretty well.

c.phantasy;343572 said:
Green tea rasises it by 192%. But Tea contains Caffeine so its a double edged sword.
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I'm not so sure thats true. I just read a study about how Green Tea actually blocks the DHT receptors, which raises the amount of testosterone (less testosterone converted to DHT, means more testosterone available). Something like that. I'll find a link and post it later.

Also people, don't just go rubbing DHT on your dick. Although I haven't tried it yet, i've been doing a lot of research. DHT will send negative feedback to your Pituitary gland, which controls the production of the gonadotropins (LH and FSH). LH is responsible for signaling your testes to produce testosterone. In a few studies I read (today, actually), DHT use suppressed the production of LH.

Anyone have any updates on their use?
 
invictus;346248 said:
Hello all. I'm new here @ the forum but i'm not new to Penis Enlargement; I've been active at another forum for a few years and know my stuff pretty well.



I'm not so sure thats true. I just read a study about how Green Tea actually blocks the DHT receptors, which raises the amount of testosterone (less testosterone converted to DHT, means more testosterone available). Something like that. I'll find a link and post it later.



Also people, don't just go rubbing DHT on your dick. Although I haven't tried it yet, i've been doing a lot of research. DHT will send negative feedback to your Pituitary gland, which controls the production of the gonadotropins (LH and FSH). LH is responsible for signaling your testes to produce testosterone. In a few studies I read (today, actually), DHT use suppressed the production of LH.

Anyone have any updates on their use?
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Thanks for the information. And as always,there are risks involved in our progress. If your in the game to win,well... ;)
 
Hey bro(c.phantasy).So what now....would you still try the gel in your routine?From what he mentions about affecting the body's LH,and FSH,wouldn't this be prevented by the cycling that you are supposed to do?I mean,this gel is prescribed for gyno,and libido issues for people who need it...so it must be good and have positive things about it right?I don't know,I'm just kind of confused now,because of what that guy in this thread said.So what do you think?Hope to hear back from you soon.Later.
 
http://www.pegym.com/forums/exercise-fitness/3747-green-tea-raises-dht-testosterone-levels.html An increase of 194% in DHT due to GT.
:D
penisbuilder;346386 said:
Hey bro(c.phantasy).So what now....would you still try the gel in your routine?From what he mentions about affecting the body's LH,and FSH,wouldn't this be prevented by the cycling that you are supposed to do?I mean,this gel is prescribed for gyno,and libido issues for people who need it...so it must be good and have positive things about it right?I don't know,I'm just kind of confused now,because of what that guy in this thread said.So what do you think?Hope to hear back from you soon.Later.
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I agree.Cycling is the way to go. ;)
 
Check this out. Green tea blocks the 5ar enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT; thus increasing the amount of testosterone, not DHT. Although according to this article, the testosterone is bound. So basically, green tea is bad for DHT. Although it is good for many other uses, it is bad for DHT. This is an excerpt from the PDF file I found off of Google.

"Therapeutic Recommendations: Herbal [article about male pattern baldness]

Green Tea (Camellia Sinesis)- Catechins that are in green tea are believed to hinder the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase that changes testosterone into the deterrent, DHT. A considerable intake of green tea is associated with higher levels of sex hormone-binding protein—or globulin, which transports hormones like testosterone through the body in a bound, unusable variety so that tissues cannot use it directly. Testosterone is normally transported through the body by this binding protein, therefore, lowering the levels of free testosterone, so that it would not be transformed to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in the hair follicle [or in our case, the tissue], which is believed to curtail the hair cycle and cause hair loss in men [or in our case, tissue healing]. It is for that reason that researchers deem green tea effective in preventing and treating male pattern baldness [because it effectively reduces DHT]."

Source:
http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/healthy_hair.pdf
(Its the 5th search result from the top)

Other articles:
"Enzymatic Hydrolysis of Green Tea Seed Extract and Its Activity on 5α-Reductase Inhibition"
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb/70/2/70_387/_article
 
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