Tissue Death

[Godsize]

Does anyone remember offhand what the maximum amount of time you can remain in a tourniquet before "tissue death" sets in?
I do Extreme Ulies, and I never usually stay tightened for longer than ten minutes, but I always wonder if I can go longer.

 

[playa7]

25 minutes!!!
But I would never go longer than 20 minutes....

C YA!

 

[Godsize]

Are you sure, man? That seems awfully long.

 

[playa7]

Pretty sure, man..... I think Red wrote this once @ pridepenis....

C YA!

 

[DLD]

I think you would be safer going for the 10 minutes, return to good circulation, then re-wrap.

 

[playa7]

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
I think you would be safer going for the 10 minutes, return to good circulation, then re-wrap.

Yeah that´s better, but the question was:

Does anyone remember offhand what the maximum amount of time you can remain in a tourniquet before "tissue death" sets in?

And the answer is 25 min.... But I would never go over 20 min... As I remember the max for me was 15 min...

C YA!

 

[pUNKY]

I think i herd Red say the tissue dies after 25min's but dont rap for any longer that 20 min's

 

[4governa]

instead of gripping around ur penis with ur fingers for 10 minutes for the ULI's, cant i just wrap a rubber band around the base of my dick instead while erect and recieve good results?

 

[ItsElectric]

Originally posted by 4governa
instead of gripping around ur penis with ur fingers for 10 minutes for the ULI's, cant i just wrap a rubber band around the base of my dick instead while erect and recieve good results?

Well, I use a cable clamp and I believe Godsize does too. I'm usually in mine for around 20 minutes.

-ItsElectric

 

[REDZULU2003]

Alright listen up soldiers [the Guru of constriction and string LOL] the MAX time is 30 minutes.....after that the tissues die from non-stop torniquet.

But I do 35 mins....HTF do I??? I have built my way to this over 14 months of doing these, plus I release the clamps slighlty if it gets bruised than re-tighten, also massage the area where I am clamped.

I really am a master at Torniquet exercises...they aint as easy as I say they are...while doing the exercises you must bare in mind to monitor the penis where its clamped, tied etc etc and if any bruises come [black marks] than ya too tight, release some and massage.

I would highly REC' doing this stuff infront of a sun-lamp which really helps ALOT to reduce injury.

Also NEVER use an elastic band, this could tear thru the penis as its very thin and would act like a knife at high stress....best thing is a cable clamp, with padding underneath...I myself dont use any padding...but bare in mind it hurts alot when you take the clamp of as any skin that was trapped gets to normal.

I would say for begginers....do 10 mins to start with for say 2 weeks than move to 20 mins and stay their for many months till ya ready [you will know] to take the 30 mins head on.

This tissue death is meant for a fresh fish outta water doing these right off for 30 mins....it would do alot of harm...but someone like me whos used to it...its no probz 'most of the time'.

Good luck all and any questions on constrictors, torniquet exercises and methods than just hit me.

 

[decow]

I feel worried about you guys! Pull it and stretch it or whatever, but do never get close to kill the only dick you ever have!!

 

[DLD]

Originally posted by decow
I feel worried about you guys! Pull it and stretch it or whatever, but do never get close to kill the only dick you ever have!!

I got to agree

 

[4governa]

wut about a shoe lace tied around as a tourniquet? is that just as good?

 

[ItsElectric]

That should work cause you can just pull a string and let it go, whereas with a rubberband it hurts.

-ItsElectric

 

[mowinman]

Clinically, tissue death occurs at 8 minutes with deprivation of oxygen and blood. The penis is the only exception and the only tissue in the body that does not have permanent damage from extended periods of circulation impairment. When one becomes erect and stays that way for extended periods of time, no detrimental effects however, this may not be the case with skin covering the penis. You may or may not have permanent damage doing this, I feel no more than 10 minutes is healthy. Risk pays off some times, just not that adventurous. I value what I have.

 

[Godsize]

Maybe I'll let it go for 15 minutes max. Sometimes I forget what time I started and get worried...that's why I always write down what time I need to release the clamp so I don't let it go too far and fuck my dick up. I'm in no real rush, it's just that sometimes I feel like I wanna stay clamped longer than ten minutes, ya know?

I usually keep a bowl of hot water and a rag close by to wrap during my sets...this helps. With every set, I see my dick extend bigger and bigger. And now with the added stresses I'm incorporating, my efforts will be more effective within the same time frame.

I'm hoping to be bigger by the end of November. We shall see.

I'm so glad that Red posted what he does while in the clamp because I was considering doing the same types of things, but I thought it might be more harmful than beneficial. I'm real seasoned with using the multiclamp, so I'm inspired now. I really can feel the difference with just some light bending while clamped. My dick was shot afterwards, but in a good way.

 

[WaxN]

I believe it's a standard in the medical community that a tourniquet should not be left on for more than 20 minutes, if possible. Obviously, if an injury is severe enough, removing the tourniquet could lead to fatal hemorrhage. So, it would be better to lose the limb than your life.
But I remember reading the 20-minute figure somewhere once. I would imagine that would be with a completely full tourniquet (i.e., no circulation whatsoever).

 

[REDZULU2003]

The circulation aint stopped its slowed down with the torniquet....I have been doing this for over a year..my dick is fine...the circulation is fine...listen to what a master of this field says....dld aint done this part of pe so he should not comment....he did which I must say I am surprised at, as he stretches alot.

Now....you can use a shoe string...but it aint as good as a clamp.
Maybe a belt can help also?

Sorry if I seem nasty in this post...but I am pissed of in genral today anyway.

cya

 

[REDZULU2003]

bumped

 

[DLD]

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
The circulation aint stopped its slowed down with the torniquet....I have been doing this for over a year..my dick is fine...the circulation is fine...listen to what a master of this field says....dld aint done this part of pe so he should not comment....he did which I must say I am surprised at, as he stretches alot.

Now....you can use a shoe string...but it aint as good as a clamp.
Maybe a belt can help also?

Sorry if I seem nasty in this post...but I am pissed of in genral today anyway.

cya

RED, I would rather be safe than without a penis but you are correct when you say I have never done these torniquet type workouts. I would want more medical information on touriquets before I would condone such a long cut-off. I just do not want anyone to get injured.

DLD

 

[bobbdobbs]

Originally posted by mowinman
When one becomes erect and stays that way for extended periods of time, no detrimental effects

I don't believe circulation is ever totally cut off. Erection occurs when the blood inlets open wider and the blood outlets close tighter. I don't think the seals are perfectly tight, though, so there is a slow exchange of blood even during erection.

 

[REDZULU2003]

yep dld I see ya point.
But I do it...seen my gains and I aint got any bad effects either...been at it for over a year...IMHO these are just as good as the Girth Busters. Ya dont know what u'r missing out on.
Try them oneday.

 

[ladylove]

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
I got to agree

me too!

 

[Shafty]

At what point do you guys think it's ok to start doing these torniquets? I've recently jacked up my routine so that I get about a total of 50 minutes worth of girth exercising (Ulis, Ferrari Megapumps and jelqs & trap jelqs), and I feel like I can handle it pretty well, so...??:

I don't wanna rush into things, though. As of late I've experienced some aching of the ligs after an intense stretch session, so I'm not sure if I'm ready for exercises that are of such intensity (even though we're talking about girth exercises here)

 

[DLD]

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
yep dld I see ya point.
But I do it...seen my gains and I aint got any bad effects either...been at it for over a year...IMHO these are just as good as the Girth Busters. Ya dont know what u'r missing out on.
Try them oneday.

RED, Most of my girth exercises do depend on trapped blood but I prefer to use my hand as the tourniquet opposed to an outside source. I feel more comfortable being in complete control with my hands. This also allow me to increase or decrease pressure based on feel. I would love to increase the speed of how quickly I gain but I would also hate to lose my penis in the process.

 

[DLD]

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
yep dld I see ya point.
But I do it...seen my gains and I aint got any bad effects either...been at it for over a year...IMHO these are just as good as the Girth Busters. Ya dont know what u'r missing out on.
Try them oneday.

I will give them a shot tonight. I just purchased a clamp and I am going to see how it goes. I will let you know.

 

[stillwantmore]

Yea DLD and I were chatting earlier and I was praising the clamp. LOL. The blood flow is not cut off totally if this is done right. It is only the outflow of blood that is being slowed. Still, I would think it would be best to at least open the clamp up a few clicks every so often to get some fresher blood in.

 

[TheExecutioner]

Dissagree, Tissue Death in 25 minutes!
The tissue can take alot more than you think, i slept with a Cock ring on at the base for a whole week once and my cock is still live and kicking today. 8 hours a day of blood flow constriction and all i got was some slight girth gains.
Then Again, its isnt totally a tourniquet like you people are saying but my cock did used to go stone cold.

 

[DLD]

Originally posted by TheExecutioner
Dissagree, Tissue Death in 25 minutes!
The tissue can take alot more than you think, i slept with a Cock ring on at the base for a whole week once and my cock is still live and kicking today. 8 hours a day of blood flow constriction and all i got was some slight girth gains.
Then Again, its isnt totally a tourniquet like you people are saying but my cock did used to go stone cold.

I think the most important thing to remember is everyone is different and each person should practice good caution for their own situation. I just worry too much but I do not want someone getting hurt. I will have much more educated feedback after I try it.

 

[TheExecutioner]

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
I think the most important thing to remember is everyone is different and each person should practice good caution for their own situation. I just worry too much but I do not want someone getting hurt. I will have much more educated feedback after I try it.

Yes, it really is down to knowing your body and knowing when the limit is, you never want to go over the limit, i got my penis used to seeing if it could handle a cock ring, then if it could be on for prolonged time, i wanted to try it on all day but i found it was too hard to go through the day doing normal things with it on and things, after trying it all i though ill try just one night see how it goes and it was fine. So yeah always do things with Caution you only have one penis remember so be safe.

 

[fallen_one23]

what kind of gains have you guys seen from doing these?

 

[stillwantmore]

Originally posted by fallen_one23
what kind of gains have you guys seen from doing these?

I doubt that many guys besides Redzulu have seen gains yet. We're all still pretty new to this idea. Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe some more guys will chime in.

 

[nitro]

Damn, 30 minutes tourniquets !! Why are you guys doing that, after all that time my dick already went limp since a long time, no matter how hard is the tourniquet. I usually do them for not more than 1 minute since these exercises seem to only take effect for me when I am in a close to 95% erection.

 

[REDZULU2003]

while in the torniquet keep masterbating...well the glans [head] and watch pron keep stimulated.

 

[Shafty]

alright me clean it now :blahblah:

 

[stillwantmore]

Get a cable clamp and make sure you wrap with something under it. Much better effect than a shoelace.

 

[DLD]

OK I gave them a shot last night and I do have some things to say about them. First I would like to give big props to the person who thought up the cable clamp because these are a wonderful addition to certain girth exercises. I did the dry portion of GIRTH BUSTERS using the clamp and I have to say it was a awesome companion to say the least. It was very easy to remain at an optimum erection level with little effort. My opinion on circulation still remains the same...10 minutes felt like a good time to unclamp, massage good circulation, and reclamp. I really see no benefit in extended clamp sessions but convenience of not having to reclamp.

Buy your clamps guys it is a great .99¢ investment.

 

[Godsize]

"what kind of gains have you guys seen from doing these?"

I've gained about .1" in girth a month for the past three months. I think I'm at a standstill, but I'm also in a transitional period with my routine. I'm in the middle of changing exercises and techniques in order to continue gaining.

 

[bobbdobbs]

Originally posted by TheExecutioner
i slept with a Cock ring on at the base for a whole week once and my cock is still live and kicking today.

Maybe it's petrified.

 

[pole]

Originally posted by Shafty
WHICH WOULD BRING BETTER RESULTS, CONSTRICTING WHILE FULLY OR PARTIALLY ERECT??!! ?

Fully! I go inside fully erect, clamp down, do some exercises, clamp down again ASO. Some stroking to keep the full erection is needed if not already horny like hell(like it was with me last night).
To the tissue dead:
As long as you feel your erection still slowely subsiding I don't see any danger for this, even for more then 30min. Only the skin may suffer.
But if you notice the effect of additional balloon-like ultra-hard engorgement up to the point of beeing afraid that your dick will explode (I described it in RZ's original Erect Tunica Work thread) without having to do anything to maintain it, then I belive you should not keep this state more then 10-15min!

BTW yesterday I felt this in both, CS AND CC and not like before only in CS. But the pressure was so unbelivable that I had pain and was sweating allover and had to fight myself to wait the 10min.(25min.total) for untie the clamp.
A newbie's dick would have been killed for sure!

 

[Shafty]

Okay, thanx for the advice, Pole!
I might be willing to give the cable clamp a shot...
now if I only knew what it is called in my native tongue (finnish) I could acquire one for myself! I wouldn't want to go to a hardware store and come back home with a pair of garden shears though... maybe there is a pic of them somewhere?

As long as you feel your erection still slowely subsiding I don't see any danger for this

Yeah, it went down after about 5 minutes, although I suppose it would have stayed rigid longer with a more effective torniquet (the shoe lace tends to loosen somewhat and allow some circulation no matter how tight the knot is).

 

[pole]

Shafty,

you will have a hard time to find cable clamps(see SWM's avatar f.pic) in continental europe. I don't have one my own
I use a standard hose clamp with sufficient wrapping. It's basically the same, just slower to tie/untie.