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Steroids
prince Albert said:Red from your other posts you havn't been training very long,i would get a few years natural training under your belt first,unless your training and diet are spot on then you are wasting your time.
If you want to get decent advice join one of the large bb forums and look in the steroid forums,muscletalk is a very good uk board.
Agreed! without natural training and perfect diet. The ligaments wont grow as fast as the muscle and no experience on how body responds to diet and training
muscletalk blows btw....esp their views on clen they disregarded FACT and medical studies just cuz their guru said so :s
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what are their views on clen?
DWTS00 said:Agreed! without natural training and perfect diet. The ligaments wont grow as fast as the muscle and no experience on how body responds to diet and training
muscletalk blows btw....esp their views on clen they disregarded FACT and medical studies just cuz their guru said so :s
Do you post on there whats your boardname,don't no what clen thread your on about.
Medical studies don't always reflect reality,its not to many years ago that the medical community refused to accept that steroids could actually build muscle.
im2manly said:what are their views on clen?
Don't no about DWTS00 but i hate the stuff,only tried it once and got terrible sides of it.
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clen the steroid version of thermos, that is the only "low-grade" steroid i would ever consider taking.
im2manly said:what are their views on clen?
thats its bad and if some1 were to use it they should do the 2 weeks on/off routine :s with no proof as why to...just cause everyone else is :s
man I dont remember my UN I havent been to that site in years.
Medical studies dont always reflect truths like the cannabis studies which were manipulated to make it look bad but after reading close to a 1000 studies you start to pick up on the way its done wether its tricky true , done in vivo or vitro , etc....
the studies I saw about clen look very real and geniune so yeah...but they said that it was BS and their way was right when I asked why they said because we say so or smth lol BS rofl
prince Albert said:Don't no about DWTS00 but i hate the stuff,only tried it once and got terrible sides of it.
I tried 60mcg for 1 day then realized I wont be able to do the cycle I want which is 12 weeks of 120-180mcg ED with benadryl/ketiotefen every 3rd week for the whole week to upgrade the beta receptors from the downregulation cause by clen
clen the steroid version of thermos, that is the only "low-grade" steroid i would ever consider taking
Clen is not a steroid its a selective beta-2 agonist-antaganist
prince Albert said:Don't no about DWTS00 but i hate the stuff,only tried it once and got terrible sides of it.
U should try taurine with it and some potassium or so
what did u get the shaking and headaches?? u shouldnt go up to a certain set number u go up till u can no longer tolerate the sides everyone has their own individual dose tolerance it can be 80 for some1 and 200 for some1 else
DWTS00 said:U should try taurine with it and some potassium or so
what did u get the shaking and headaches?? u shouldnt go up to a certain set number u go up till u can no longer tolerate the sides everyone has their own individual dose tolerance it can be 80 for some1 and 200 for some1 else
No intention of using it again,got the shakes on a very low dose,headaches were unbearable,couldn't train even looking at a bright light was painful.
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swolejah
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AlreadyPackin' said:But I don't feel as if you're really earning what you get as opposed to not using them.
Right on.
And superdrol before it went out was selling pretty cheap at DPS Nutrition... but that was right before they banned it.
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swolejah
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A friend of mine has a boyfriend that took roids and she told me he gained a lot very quickly. He started out with some sort of pills to try and get his body accustomed to it, and then he moved on to the strong juice.
Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
swolejah said:A friend of mine has a boyfriend that took roids and she told me he gained a lot very quickly. He started out with some sort of pills to try and get his body accustomed to it, and then he moved on to the strong juice.
Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
u might get test flu but not sick as a dog
anyone who wants to gain weight and does oral only cycles isnt that smart
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Originally Posted by AlreadyPackin'
But I don't feel as if you're really earning what you get as opposed to not using them.
Quote swolejah
Right on.
You have just illustrated my point,here you are knocking the gains made from aas but in the creatine and whey thread you are quite happy to recommend OTC supps to improve gains:s
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Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
Care to elaborate on that,ive never heard of anyone getting sick of deca.
Originally Posted by AlreadyPackin'
But I don't feel as if you're really earning what you get as opposed to not using them.
Quote swolejah
Right on.
You have just illustrated my point,here you are knocking the gains made from aas but in the creatine and whey thread you are quite happy to recommend OTC supps to improve gains:s
Quote swolejah
Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
Care to elaborate on that,ive never heard of anyone getting sick of deca.
prince Albert said:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlreadyPackin'
But I don't feel as if you're really earning what you get as opposed to not using them.
Quote swolejah
Right on.
You have just illustrated my point,here you are knocking the gains made from aas but in the creatine and whey thread you are quite happy to recommend OTC supps to improve gains:s
Quote swolejah
Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
Care to elaborate on that,ive never heard of anyone getting sick of deca.
Why the fuck do you have that Sig on if u aint gonna use it??rofl
DWTS00 said:Why the fuck do you have that Sig on if u aint gonna use it??rofl
First page of this threadrofl
prince Albert said:Red from your other posts you havn't been training very long,i would get a few years natural training under your belt first,unless your training and diet are spot on then you are wasting your time.
If you want to get decent advice join one of the large bb forums and look in the steroid forums,muscletalk is a very good uk board.
Good advice. Also to DSW500 on the connectors. I see a few AAS Boys at the gym constantly taking joint medication, and complaining of pain. You sound like an prime example of responsible use, and someone who knows that you still have to work hard. I'm not really big on OTC's, but I guess since they are not as "invasive," I guess you would say, more ppl are cool with them. I'm more interested in what can be considered dietary supplements and vitamins, not drugs. I even only take medicine when I really need to. Creatine is the only enhancer I have ever used; I take some pride in not using anything and still looking great, just me. I even only take medicine when I really need to. Good pointing that out. I hadn't really thought about it, as I haven't used anything but protein in about 7 years.
As to how much I'm lifting, I can rep the 110 dumbbells on bench, my last max was 325, it's likely a bit higher now. I can rep 220 on lat pulldowns, I've never heard of anyone maxing on that, but I can do 41 pull-ups, and 2 one-arm shots with each arm. I only weigh 177, though. My back's been giving me some shit lately, so I've taken it easy on the squats. I can still rep 315, though I used to heave up 450 or so. If you saw me, you would know right off the bat I was not cycling anything.
It's pretty funny about the medical community and 'roids. That was pretty absurd. You'll never get a doctor to admit he doesn't know something. I've even heard doctors advise against weightlifting in the past. I hadn't thought about the price difference in the UK versus the US. And it's legal? That would likely change people's perception here. Steroids get a lot of bad press, but much of it is unwarranted. I am constantly dispelling myths among my co-workers, because they are just uninformed.
AlreadyPackin' said:Good advice. Also to DSW500 on the connectors. I see a few AAS Boys at the gym constantly taking joint medication, and complaining of pain. You sound like an prime example of responsible use, and someone who knows that you still have to work hard. I'm not really big on OTC's, but I guess since they are not as "invasive," I guess you would say, more ppl are cool with them. I'm more interested in what can be considered dietary supplements and vitamins, not drugs. I even only take medicine when I really need to. Creatine is the only enhancer I have ever used; I take some pride in not using anything and still looking great, just me. I even only take medicine when I really need to. Good pointing that out. I hadn't really thought about it, as I haven't used anything but protein in about 7 years.
As to how much I'm lifting, I can rep the 110 dumbbells on bench, my last max was 325, it's likely a bit higher now. I can rep 220 on lat pulldowns, I've never heard of anyone maxing on that, but I can do 41 pull-ups, and 2 one-arm shots with each arm. I only weigh 177, though. My back's been giving me some shit lately, so I've taken it easy on the squats. I can still rep 315, though I used to heave up 450 or so. If you saw me, you would know right off the bat I was not cycling anything.
It's pretty funny about the medical community and 'roids. That was pretty absurd. You'll never get a doctor to admit he doesn't know something. I've even heard doctors advise against weightlifting in the past. I hadn't thought about the price difference in the UK versus the US. And it's legal? That would likely change people's perception here. Steroids get a lot of bad press, but much of it is unwarranted. I am constantly dispelling myths among my co-workers, because they are just uninformed.
I havent done any steroids btw, Im only 18 or 19 shit I seriously cant remember lol
neway the only thing I took was Insulin pwo and t4 to cut back on the fat gains from the slin thats it I only did it for 2 months Im not a big fan of steroids but I do know the truth about them and have written lots of cycles for my friends but they dont appeal to me I dont wanna be 220lbs 8% bf nemore I just wanna be 8%bf and strong as fuck since I might join the US Marines or SEALs
Nice numbers esp on that body weight!!! my max bench with DB was 100lbs on incline (99lbs to be precise) Bench press was 286lbs good numbers on the squats! mine werent that impressive (no spotter around) everyone was always doing bi's and chest lol only 350lbs, deadlift about the same and leg press was my best at 480lbs
Neway keep a look out for some of the Articles Im gonna be writing and then posting here they will help everything from erections to back pain to strength fat loss etc... in a week or 2 I should be done writing them and posting them
You REALLY don't know what you're talking about, do you??swolejah said:...Deca? Don't be surprised if you get sick as a dog while your on that.
The only people that i've known that actually suffered from test flu was when frontloading test at over a gram the first week. Since most people don't use that much, test flu is way over rated.DWTS00 said:u might get test flu but not sick as a dog
sikdogg said:The only people that i've known that actually suffered from test flu was when frontloading test at over a gram the first week. Since most people don't use that much, test flu is way over rated.
Yeah but it happens....Its not like OMG I have test flu Im gonna die lol its just test flu not a big deal really.
REDZULU2003
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prince Albert said:Red from your other posts you havn't been training very long,i would get a few years natural training under your belt first,unless your training and diet are spot on then you are wasting your time.
If you want to get decent advice join one of the large bb forums and look in the steroid forums,muscletalk is a very good uk board.
thanks