Short and sweet: What I've noticed

[REDZULU2003]

Reductionism from Observations I've made on ideal penis size for a woman, as told by a male relating to their penis size and what they say as the ideal size for the opposite sex.


I have noticed this from my years on Penis Enlargement boards and across the internet on the subject of penis size.

When it comes to talking about what the woman like, i.e girth over length...or a mixture of both I have found that the guys who say the woman prefer girth [like me] have large girths, and the guys who say they like a bit of both are gifted in both length and girth to a certain extent.

DLD falls into that category, he thinks both girth and length are important to a woman...he has a massive girth and length so SURE it does matter to a girl, he has it....same with me, I have the girth so the girls will love that the most ...understand?

I have seen it time and time again where males make their opinion on woman's size preference based off of their own penis size - projection.

Not all men will do this...but a large proportion probably do....me included, and DLD.

Also men who gain in penis enlargement, but still are in the average, above average or just breaking into the big league also follow the trend.

It doesn't have to be well endowed men whom think like this.

Smaller men and newbies seem to be more difficult to pin down, their belief IMHO is more on their own personal goal they have set in Penis Enlargement.

Men make this statement because they would much prefer that their penis is in the league that the woman crave....the whole macho-thing could play a role to some degree here, with the winner LOL being the alpha male - extreme but you should get the point. Allot must also be subconscious.

We all want to be the best, our penis is just another extension of our competitiveness that I have been guilty of showing, and have witnessed time and time again across these forums and many others.

Now how many would admit to this? probably not Many, either because they dont fully understand what I'm writing about or they know if they do admit to doing it than they themselves aint in the league that the woman prefer...that would be terrible, especially if their young free and single Penis Enlargement gainers....their goals and thoughts around pe would have to be re-thinked.

Make what you will of this observation, you'll either agree or you won't....their isn't no in between.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Quick summary, should have been in the last post but this forum doesn't allow you to edit your posts after ten minutes.

When you answer to the ideal size that a woman prefers, a large proportion respond with a figure or statement similar or the same as their size.

Or a figure/statement that's their ideal size, in other terms their Penis Enlargement Goal.

Newbies and smaller guys, usually display that trend....they want it, so think its also what the woman wants on the whole.

The thoughts and ideas displayed by men when they make these assumptions about ideal size are from those areas from what I've seen.

Sometimes they will even go from what woman have told them, which than just interacts with the thoughts they already have.

They than tweak them to what they seem best in their head, with regards to their own dick and what they would want one day.

 

[KiNgA dA ThRoNe]

great post very true and informative as well..!!

 

[bluenun]

I think most women prefer a 7 1/8" x 5 1/2" with an upward curve

OK, I wish they did anyway, lol.

I have to admit that before finding this site last April I assumed all guys had the same girth and that when men and women talked about penis size they were referring to length. So it was educational for me to learn the importance of girth to women.
But I would still rather gain length over girth just for my ego.

When I was at my starting size 6.75" x 5 1/8" BPenis EnlargementL I bottomed out in most of my sexual partners and got "big" comments about 50% of the time, but I don't know whether they meant big in length or girth. There were other sexual partners where I felt so small and they felt so loose.

 

[insearchof9inch]

People generally do refer to length when talking about penis size because you are more likely to find someone saying "my penis is 8 inches long" than "my penis is 6 inches around". People who don't Penis Enlargement don't really pay much attention to girth at all, it is all about the length measurement to them. I am guilty of this. I want length before girth just so I can brag about being a certain length.

 

[REDZULU2003]

great post very true and informative as well..!!

Thanks.

I forgot to mention about what influences sex toys can have on the male mind with regards to the topic.
Take for example the most common size for a dildo sold say in the UK.
Well in the un-conscious mind that data is saved and it will than interact with what we know already, and with regards to Penis Enlargement what we do want and already have.
This quote from my second post here will help get this message across.

Sometimes they will even go from what woman have told them, which than just interacts with the thoughts they already have

Edit the 'woman have told them' and just imagine the scenario I have gone across with the biggest selling dildo.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Finally just squeeze this in before the ten minute edit time is up [I was outta time so I pasted it in this separate post].

When we see adult entertainment and the huge cocks in the scenes, such as Shane from Bang boat and Ramon from Monsters of cock it will also play apart in some men's verdicts and beliefs on the ideal size for a woman.

Its self explanatory, but to get it in a nutshell - its large, she's enjoying it so therefore its the ideal size, or more commonly thought...woman like BIG DICKS....you need a BIG WILLY to please a woman.

It isn't the case as we know here but it will affect the way some men's and boy's minds work within this criteria.

 

[KiNgA dA ThRoNe]

YES i have noticed that as well about the dildo sales..i have looked at a dildo that was my size approximately and rememebring sayin damn that looks bigger then mine..?? i couldnt explain it either at all... but i was seein it away from another mass ( in my case my body ) which plays a role in how you interpret size ..

 

[asd170]

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[JesterX]

ill admit to thinking this way, when i first joined the forum i made posts about width and girth as this was what i was above average in and proud of it i guess. and if i had reassurance that this was important to the women then i would feel much more comfortable and confident with my cock.

 

[wolfkeeper]

I just think different women are different sizes and like different sizes. The problem comes if you are 'to'.

So far as I can tell it's much worse to be too long than too wide, but too narrow for a particular woman is worse than being short. You're more likely to get an 'is it in yet?' for being too narrow.

If you're a bit too wide for a woman; they're very stretchy (women are designed to give birth and a babies head is much bigger than almost any cock, so it won't kill them, but it might hurt a bit). Being too long means you're not going to be able to get it all in; you bang up against the cervix, and that hurts, and they're less stretchy lengthwise than widthwise (although women do get bigger diameter as well as deeper when they get excited).

Then again, there's a certain macho pride in not being able to fit it all in I guess; to some extent it's about style, just so long as you don't pound their poor cervix to death (it gets numb and stingy after a while though rather than excruciating apparently).

It also depends on how hard your dick is. Even if your dick is a Ron Jeremy; his dick was reportedly spongey, and the chicks dug that because it didn't mash the cervix.

Anyway, me I'm entirely average, but I'm training girth.

 

[jennadavis]

Being a viagra/cialis user, i am always complimented on the hardness, as opposed to spungeyness of the erection.

Go hard like a rock, its what women preffer!

 

[aeroth]

I've always thought ideal penis size was independent on each woman, however I will admit I went off what the adult entertainment sites had to offer and though most those guys were no smaller than 8x6. Me though I personally think 7x5+ will be ideal. And my girlfriend has even said 6.5 is perfect in length (I'm 6.25 bpel) so the goal for me based on "perfect, ideal size" is a bit over 7 bpel (cause you push in a lot of your BPenis EnlargementL too) and girth I'm more than happy with what I have and I know that doing the sessions I plan to do will increase it too.

So this raises the question I've been wanting to ask for awhile of most the Penis Enlargement guys here which compliment would you rather hear?


"Wow you're so THICK!!"

"Wow you're so LONG!!"


I hear Thick now so me I want to hear about how long I am.

 

[10inchadvantage]

I've always thought ideal penis size was independent on each woman, however I will admit I went off what the adult entertainment sites had to offer and though most those guys were no smaller than 8x6. Me though I personally think 7x5+ will be ideal. And my girlfriend has even said 6.5 is perfect in length (I'm 6.25 bpel) so the goal for me based on "perfect, ideal size" is a bit over 7 bpel (cause you push in a lot of your BPenis EnlargementL too) and girth I'm more than happy with what I have and I know that doing the sessions I plan to do will increase it too.

So this raises the question I've been wanting to ask for awhile of most the Penis Enlargement guys here which compliment would you rather hear?


"Wow you're so THICK!!"

"Wow you're so LONG!!"


I hear Thick now so me I want to hear about how long I am.

I'd choose the THICK comment, personally.

 

[Deon]

THICK..A little less than Shane Diesel Thick would be cool with me

 

[REDZULU2003]

Four years after I did this thread has anything changed?

I can't say it has. I see guys being so obsessed about the size of their penis that it worries me about the way society has made the modern man think about his manhood.

Guys now already large at over 7 inches in length and nearly 6 inches in girth are WORRIED that they are going to be too small for woman.

I've read this time and time again from virgins and than from guys who want to become bigger because they feel it will satisfy the woman better than the size they have now.

adult entertainment is more to blame, with even more big cock adult entertainment sites around than before and it also being mentioned on shows such as sex and the city.

Men are thinking they MUST have a bigger penis to satisfy this crave, this madness and if they dont than they wont be the man that the woman wants.

In truth I see outside the box. One of the great things with my Asperger's syndrome is that I see outside the box. I see that woman get very curious with above average sized dicks and like any normal human being they will explore more into this.

This could be seen as the woman being a slut or for some guys confirmation that woman do want 'more' ... I dont, its a natural curiosity mechanism in all of us.

She see's a large bulge in the mans trousers, so she checks it out. Doesn't mean she wants a huge cock inside of her. We see the world in much more sexual ways than woman, we are sexual beasts in truth while they are more built upon the foundations of emotion, touch and suspense.

I still think as well that newer guys consider the ideal penis size closer to what they have best in size. For example a Mr X has a long erect penis, so he subconsciously thinks to a certain extent that woman prefer longer cocks and than he starts to see adult entertainment and sites like this and feels more of this need and that the woman wants longer LONGER erect dicks.

The guy already has confidence in his 'bigger' attribute in away and hence builds upon that like a foundation in his mind, to help his goals and lack of confidence in that dept.

Hard truths for all of us .. but its a fact. We all have to certain extents a problem. We are here making our penis larger, but for what reason? really deep down ... dig deep and answer this.

I found about pe by accident and wouldn't have got into this so soon but I do think with watching adult entertainment that eventually I would have desired a larger penis and thought that seeing the big cocked adult entertainment stars was the size to have to make the woman feel good .... I now do this for myself, to make myself more confident and content but why have I become like that? Because of what I already have discussed ... the open coverage surrounding the massive misconception on what penis size has to do with a woman and how she perceives this in her ideal world and a woman's ideal size.

A woman doesnt care as much about penis size LIKE WE SEEM TO THINK or WOULD LIKE TO THINK!!! Face facts. The best selling dildo [UK] is approx 7 inches long and 5.5 inches girth and they increased it to something like 5.7 inches girth but had to comeback down because of complaints it was too thick.

The whole woman looking at large bulges, using large cock talk, talking with friends about it etc etc etc isn't anything new and if you toss the coin onto its other side you will see that us men talk to our friends about woman and their bits but does that mean what we want? no.

A recent poll here on MOS has confirmed to me that most men prefer average sized breasts to large ones, albeit not a massive sway the results speak for themselves thus far.

Another poll here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] regarding female orgasm and the ratio of penis size will display the need for the male to consider the larger penis giving better orgasms to the female.

Now I'm not saying all who took part in the poll are liars but what I will say is that my thoughts on that is the reason the female is having better orgasms is probably due MORE to the male's better sexual skills and his improved sexual confidence from his improved penis size. Some of the penis size will indeed be a treat for the female, but that alone isn't giving her that OMG orgasm and in fact many woman have had and still do have, will continue to have orgasms with average and small penises, because the man is confident in bed, good in bed and knows how to deal with her needs beyond his own selfish desire for a larger unit and wanting that to be the be all and end all.

To end this I will say that it makes me sad in someways that we have all had our minds warped like this, when all that a good female REALLY WANTS from her man, is the fact he loves her, cherishes her and will be her rock. He takes his time over her body when they make love and doesn't consider his own selfish needs first and takes great effort to make her cum. This is whats the lady wants from her man ... a man who cares about her. Not a man with a huge 9 inch penis and although many will fail to admit it, they often stare in shock at such a size but deep down wouldn't want one inside them .... dont believe me? you dont have to, thats your choice but imagine your a woman and way up what I just said and consider it ... CAREFULLY.

 

[DLD]

Now I'm not saying all who took part in the poll are liars but what I will say is that my thoughts on that is the reason the female is having better orgasms is probably due MORE to the male's better sexual skills and his improved sexual confidence from his improved penis size. Some of the penis size will indeed be a treat for the female, but that alone isnt giving her that OMG orgasm and infact many woman have had and still do have, will continue to have orgasms with average and small penises, because the man is confident in bed, good in bed and knows how to deal with her needs beyond his own selfish desire for a larger unit and wanting that to be the be all and end all.

excellent

 

[boobyman]

Every girls different. Its like saying all men prefer Skinny woman, or the exact opposite BBW! Society does play a VERY large role in how penis size is portrayed as well. I think that video some guy posted a while back about the british guy going around and bringing up penis size, does this subject very well. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49049

 

[REDZULU2003]

Thanks guys for keeping this going. I will check that docu out, sounds interesting.
When we get this private [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] BitTorrent network setup, we can all share our own files like this with eachother which will be cool.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Quoted from what I said in relation to the documentary

Watched this lastnight and it was entertaining how it was done, the British humour for sure. The guy had balls for doing that thats for sure. I thought he touched upon the subject of men not wanting to admit or speak about dicks very well indeed. The black man who stood up and said his dick was small was hillarious and I knew this was British haha the humour was great, you cant beat us for it. Now, it touched upon the females in the pottery class and asked to mold a cock they would consider IDEAL in side for them. From the 4 woman the sizes to me didnt look small and the guy later said they were all approx 7 inches in length, didnt say on girth and it would have been good if he measured them right there but 7 inches would sound right for the best sold dildo's and vibrators in the UK which are 7 x 5.5.

They said that this was IDEAL size if they had a one nighter and a guy whipped it out, typical British sluts haha and than one said that she indeed could have made her's too large haha one had balls like fucking bowls! haha

My thoughts on this? woman think they want something but dont know what they want. I've heard girls say they love um big and thick, than I sleep with them and they cant take me half way and are in pain!! Eyes are bigger than the bellies haha and this is not an average representation of the female culture, just 4 girls who have either been picked or asked to come in regarding penis size so they probably sleep about or know about cocks to begin with. The guy who went under the knife haha clearly suffers with the penile varient of BDD. His partner is a slut, I could sense a mile away and probably a closet size queen, who even mocked guys at 5.5 inches the fucking bitch.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Something I forgot to mention from that doc' is at one stage when the main guy was in a center somewhere with a board over his neck saying ''Talk to me about your penis'' I remember a point, when he said ''Whats average'' and one guy shouted out ''Size of a cucumber'' < This is what I'm talking about, guys have a warped perception of whats normal with regards to penis size and its all to do with the media, like I said ... adult entertainment and seeing those bigger dicks which are not reflecting society as a whole.

The girls on the doc' albeit ONLY 4 which is hardly a good representation of the female species, must have been chosen via advertising the show ... obvious, and they must have known they would be on a show that speaks about cocks ... obvious, so my point is this ... dont be alarmed or fooled into thinking if any of the monstrosities they made from the clay is a true thought process of many woman, because IT ISN'T ... those girls obviously are either ...

1] curious about the subject
2] Sexually experienced
3] Like bigger than average cocks
4] All 3

I only say bigger than average because they all had cocks done in the 7 inch range, yet one said hers might have been too large! If I pulled my pants down fully erect to them they would find it hard taking me

I hope you get my point ... they weren't chosen RANDOMLY but CHOSE to take part in a documentary on Penis Enlargement PENIS SIZE so figure it out, would many respectable girls wish to take part in that on average, unless they had issues surrounding it? i.e. the points I made.

Thanks

 

[REDZULU2003]

Some stuff relating to this issue are here which is an article by Girls aloud singer Sarah Harding about penis size and how it doesnt matter. She's also the tarty one in the group, so shocking to read that from her.

Also I have written a thread that I've posted to several sex websites on the net which provides 3 things for guys to stop freting over penis size and the girls.

 

[bugas]

Hey Red, I bet if we make a contest to select the biggest sizes based on volume, you will be top 3. If we get 10.000 guys, you are top 3.

I'm seeing a lot of amateur adult entertainment nowdays. Professional adult entertainment don't arouse me anymore. In amateurs is very hard to see, very rare to see a huge one.

 

[DLD]

I'm seeing a lot of amateur adult entertainment nowdays. Professional adult entertainment don't arouse me anymore. In amateurs is very hard to see, very rare to see a huge one.

This is why, if you want to see what the average guy is, amateur adult entertainment will shed real light on it.

 

[REDZULU2003]

A thread here on ideal penis size

 

[REDZULU2003]

Girth thread and what we think woman's ideal size is with regards to it.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Ladies feedback on size

 

[rivieraman71]

My starting stats are 7.5 x 5.5 and have been doing Penis Enlargement for 2 days. Personaly, I have never had a complaint from a women. Compliments actually. Get your validation from life, not from women. I'm doing Penis Enlargement cause I personally want a bigger penis and it's for my own personal choice. I'm definetly happy with what God gave and in no means ashamed of my size.

 

[REDZULU2003]

HERE'S a good link to a thread from a Black member who talks about how women cant guess size and they wanted like 10 inches and when they saw his 7 incher they were in SHOCK how large it was!

 

[DLD]

HERE'S a good link to a thread from a Black member who talks about how women cant guess size and they wanted like 10 inches and when they saw his 7 incher they were in SHOCK how large it was!

Just like gravity and matter there are definitive laws that are absolutes, axioms and complete truths, one being women and size

 

[REDZULU2003]

I have just wrote a post on how I see a common analogy between the amount of women (From studies, T.V, media and real life) that are curious about seeing or are visually turned on by a larger than normal sized penis (Large to them isnt large to us remember and quite smaller infact) and the total of votes thus far for average - big in the what type of boobs you like thread.

Check out bottom of this link

 

[nativebeingcbs]

I personally don't think I'm very big at all, but I have more often than not gotten a "wow" reaction or "omg." Then again I'm 6'2 and around 245 with an athletic build but I'm not cut or anything. The mirror fricking kills me, and I feel average-small. .

Looking to increase both girth and length
5.5 [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words] NBP
6.5 [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words] BP
7.0 Er NBP
8.0 ER BP
5.25 midshaft
5.75 base

 

[tizalee]

I am also agree with boobyman that what he said about girl's thinking.

 

[BigDickler]

One thing I'd add is that a lot of women claim they like bigger dicks, but they cannot even take them. If a woman claims she wants a man with 10 inches, but can only handle 6 of those 10 and he cannot penetrate her fully, then her statement is like 100% irrelevant. I get sick of women claiming they love big dicks then when I get with them I hurt them or they can't handle it. Don't believe the hype, most of them are just trying to sike themselves or their friends into thinking they are experienced (which would actually be bad like she's a hoe), want you to feel like you can't handle her, or something of that nature. It's all a bluff trust me. Funny thing is, I'm only around 10 inches at most on a very VERY good day.

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

Sexual skill, confidence, and PE

 

[DLD]

Sexual skill, confidence, and PE

Sexual skill will need to be mastered if you enlarge to a big size, most women will have issues if you don't know how to use it right.

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

Sexual skill will need to be mastered if you enlarge to a big size, most women will have issues if you don't know how to use it right.

Well at this point I can last very long without the need to even reach the brink of orgasm, thanks to all the RK's I've been doing which impede that slight rush of imminent orgasm and bring me back to normal state to recycle again. And which skill are you referring to about women having issues with a bigger size, do you mean I should research which angles are more appropriate for certain sizes. Because I was just thinking my partner would tell me what's hurting them, I would take note and modify it. Research is one thing, but I believe I will learn the most from the interaction.

 

[DLD]

Well at this point I can last very long without the need to even reach the brink of orgasm, thanks to all the RK's I've been doing which impede that slight rush of imminent orgasm and bring me back to normal state to recycle again. And which skill are you referring to about women having issues with a bigger size, do you mean I should research which angles are more appropriate for certain sizes. Because I was just thinking my partner would tell me what's hurting them, I would take note and modify it. Research is one thing, but I believe I will learn the most from the interaction.

Another wonderful gift of Kegels and Reverse Kegels is sexual control, I am happy all these promises are making their way to your life!

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Finally just squeeze this in before the ten minute edit time is up [I was outta time so I pasted it in this seperate post].
When we see adult entertainment and the huge cocks in the scenes, such as Shane from Bangboat and the ugly twat fom Monsters of cock etc it will also play apart in some men's verdicts and beliefs on the ideal size for a woman.
Its self explanatary, but to get it in a nutshell - its large, she's enjoying it so therefore its the ideal size, or more commonly thought...woman like BIG DICKS....you need a BIG WILLY to please a woman.
It isnt the case as we know here but it will affect the way some mens and boys minds work within this criteria.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

adult entertainment destroying the mind

 

[DLD]

adult entertainment destroying the mind

Too much adult entertainment, or anything else, will destroy the mind...moderation in all things my Brother.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Exactly, in moderation its fine, nothing wrong, but its not in moderation for many nowadays.

In the UK, maybe next year they will be banning online adult entertainment, and you will need to prove your age to sites that your over 18 years of age.

It can be overcome of course, as googling images wont be incl, but professional sites, and the well known video adult entertainment sites will be restricted.

See https://www.wired.co.uk/article/adult entertainment-block-ban-in-the-uk-age-verifcation-law

 

[DLD]

How I wish it was banned completely from the Internet. adult entertainment has been such a destroyer of so many good things. I am still guilty of falling for it every now and again and even in these rare occasions I see how destructive it can be. I would love to have a society that so much how I wish it was banned completely from the Internet. adult entertainment has been such a destroyer so many good things. I am still guilty of falling for it every now and again and even in these rare occasions I see how distractive it can be. I would love to have a society that puts the focus on love in monogamy instead of sexual permiscuity and sleeping around. adult entertainment has normalized many behaviors that are so extreme and would never of been OK with people to three generations ago. We live in a fallen world and all we can do is put on the armor and try to get through this world without being dragged down into the gutter.