huge-girth;765132 said:
First of all, I think the first problem you are having is your state of mind. You are in doubt. I don't do manual PE and I will NEVER advice anybody to do manual PE. If you can use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for 20 mins daily for 90 days, you will surely make gains I can swear with my life. If you haven't been seeing any gains I think it is because you were doing manual PE. Try to master the wrapping technique with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. If you succeed in using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for just one month without slippage problem, add the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to it.

Everyone is gaining except you.

You are the proof of this!
 
But why is it then that every else starts off by doing manual work, I.e DLD’s beginner routine, and gain a solid amount of newbie gains? Where as I don’t.

This is why I’m so disheartened by p.e. Now and I’m questioning whether or not I will ever succeed.
 
Stripeee;765997 said:
But why is it then that every else starts off by doing manual work, I.e DLD’s beginner routine, and gain a solid amount of newbie gains? Where as I don’t.

This is why I’m so disheartened by p.e. Now and I’m questioning whether or not I will ever succeed.

I never did manual work. I started with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] before switching over to using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. You must first cast away the negative thoughts to pave the way for a clear mind. Grab that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and master the wrapping technique. You will never see anyone on this forum who will come out to say he is using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for 20 mins daily and not gaining. I use my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for 1 hours daily.
 
I’m considering a new approach as I do want to succeed and I do believe p.e works, there’s enough proof after all.

The plan is to wear the l.m for the foreseeable 3 months and go from there. I’m considering an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] too. I’ve seen a basic stretcher on P.E gym, I may get that and see how it goes, then upgrade for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].
 
Stripeee;766121 said:
I’m considering a new approach as I do want to succeed and I do believe p.e works, there’s enough proof after all.

The plan is to wear the l.m for the foreseeable 3 months and go from there. I’m considering an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] too. I’ve seen a basic stretcher on P.E gym, I may get that and see how it goes, then upgrade for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].

If you need a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] routine let me know and I will gladly provide one for you.
 
Stripeee;766123 said:
Btw has anyone heard of/used the quickextender pro???

I would go with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] especially since it is about the same price now with the discount. The quickextender is a side business of X4 Labs.
 
Thanks huge-girth I appreciate it! I’ve completed a few 20-30 min workouts and I just do a generic up, down, outward, left, right and some rotaries, with some bundled stretches.

How does an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] differ from an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]? Surely the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is better overall?
 
Stripeee;766262 said:
Thanks huge-girth I appreciate it! I’ve completed a few 20-30 min workouts and I just do a generic up, down, outward, left, right and some rotaries, with some bundled stretches.

How does an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] differ from an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]? Surely the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is better overall?

An [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is strictly for gaining length because you can increase tension. If you want an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] get the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. You can use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] at max tension during the day and then use it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] at night.
 
Stripeee;766262 said:
Thanks huge-girth I appreciate it! I’ve completed a few 20-30 min workouts and I just do a generic up, down, outward, left, right and some rotaries, with some bundled stretches.

How does an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] differ from an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]? Surely the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is better overall?

[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]=All day stretcher
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] = partial day stretcher


An [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] as the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is truly an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All day stretcher[/words] since it can be worn 24 hours a day. It gives the intensity of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] to gain and also gives a medium tension for healing. It can be work in many more positions than an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. It is far more comfortable and concealable.

An [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] can be worn up to an hour (some can go longer). It delivers length gains very quickly as it can be set to very intense settings. It can also be used in healing at a lighter setting. You are restricted to only a few angles but the angles possible do a great job. It is not as concealed or comfortable. But intensity is greater than an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].


My advice is the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and get one soon while I am giving $25.00 cash back and a free $65 membership to the video site.
 
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Stripeee;766410 said:
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Don't buy cheap devices and end up with regret. Just save and buy the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. it is worth it.
 
Stripeee;766410 said:
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If you order be sure to send me you order number and you will receive $25 cash back.
 
After using the l.m for the past 3 weeks my flaccid does look a little bigger so I thought getting the phallosan would add to this nicely. Is there an approach you would recommend? E.g. every day or set hours.

thanks
 
Stripeee;n1815207 said:
After using the l.m for the past 3 weeks my flaccid does look a little bigger so I thought getting the phallosan would add to this nicely. Is there an approach you would recommend? E.g. every day or set hours.

thanks

It is best to use the length master right before wearing the PF. Everyday training is good if your body can take it.
 
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