My thoughts on Phallosan Forte (progress thread)

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the Good:
1. It's comfortable and actually kind of pleasant to wear.
2. Immediately noticed a reduction In turtling.
3. Imediately noticed increased sensation in my penis during sex.
4. Using [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to assist in my manual stretching is awesome. I have a very hard time keeping grip on my penis when I stretch, but the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is awesome and hold tight and provides extra leverage for what I feel is a much better stretch.

The Bad:
1. It's squeeky! Yes. I sound like the tin Man when I walk around. Gotta find a solution for this.
2. Provided condoms and bells are definitely too small. Had to order the XL bell and condom right away. Will review those when I get them.

The Ugly:
I found the protector cap way too tight and so I went a session without using the cap. DONT DO THAT!! (The instructions said experienced users can use the device without the cap) My penis head swelled up and the urethra swelled almost shut making it hard to urinate for almost an hour. It was a little freaky and scary but ultimately wen back to normal. I won't be doing this again. Haha.

My routine:
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] extreme 3x5 min
Manual stretching with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] attached
12 hours in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].

Ok that's it. I'll chime back in on this thread as I continue to use it.

Starting measurements.
7"1/2" erect L
5"3/4 erect girth

Current (after week 7 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] week 1 [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words])
8" erect L
6"1/4 erect G

Goal:
9"1/2-10 erect L
6"3/4-7 erect G
 
Good review! Remember with every new tool there is a learning curve so take you time and master it! The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is an incredible tool and you will make great progress with it! Did you send your order number to me for your free membership?
 
Oh. No I didn't! Didn't know that was a thing. I'll do that now! I posted it on your visitor messages thing. But will post here too. SWS-116407
 
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I ordered mine just a few days ago directly via the website. I didn't know about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] deal and I am still not sure whether the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] deal would have been cheaper if you ignore the additional condoms (I paid 259 EURO). Anyway I guess you can't get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] membership for free in this case.

From a psychological standpoint it is great to know that you are training almost all the time now. There is no need for time off. I will probably put it off when I am out of the house aswell as during the night because I sleep on my belly most of the time.

My girth is about 6 inch at the tip but I can still wear the Large bell. I want to point out that not everyone needs the XL bell with that size. Penis is flaccid during use anyway. But before I say something wrong - I have a blood penis so this might be a reason.

I won't wear it in public because I fear it will be in the way when sitting down it makes me change my movements. My springs are squeaking during walking too. I have to tighten the closure next to the springs from time to time. I kind of fear that the device is not too sturdy but we will see.

The protector cap is hard to put on and it gets in the way of my Ligamentum suspensorium which makes the glans tend to sit inclined in the bell. So I took it off a couple of times and for me it is fine.

Some of your problems might come from the fact that you pump too much? I mean your penis size should be okay for the large bell unless you have a much larger head than shaft. Maybe your bell is too large which makes you pump too hard in order to expand in a larger volume. However I don't know whether it is possible since the pump seems to be quite weak.

Today I discovered that after 4 months of not being able, I am able to edge again. I use very strong jelq techniques which push my arousal level to heights I would assume not many people will experience (unless they use drugs). This is awesome because I didn't expect this from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I thought I would never be able to do those strong jelqs again because I had to orgasm too early. I used the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for only 3 days.

Something else: My skin cleared up. It was red from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and the other Pumps. Also the tiger stripes go away.

One more thing: I am sure that the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] does give you a low level of arousal all the time. This is awesome because it really seems to train the penis and it gives you some satisfaction throughout the day if you like to be slightly stimulated.
 
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Just PM me your order number and I will set you up with your free membership.
 
Chaoskampf;729136 said:
Some of your problems might come from the fact that you pump too much? I mean your penis size should be okay for the large bell unless you have a much larger head than shaft. Maybe your bell is too large which makes you pump too hard in order to expand in a larger volume. However I don't know whether it is possible since the pump seems to be quite weak.
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Good feedback too i agree with everything you've said, I am a bit concerned about the sturdiness of the device too, I feel like for the price, it shouldn't squeak like it does and i am worried about the tension device breaking as it looks pretty flimsy. Also, for the price i think a nice compact carrying case would have been included. Anyway,

Here is a picture of the fit in the Large bell for me. As you can see it's definitely tight and i can't get my glans all the way in without first putting on the protector cap. I'll try again with out the cap once the XL bell arrives (taking forever to get here btw) I think i may have pumped too much like you suggested before so it would suck my glans all the way into the bell.

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I developed some more ideas about the device. If it would not be sturdy, it should break during nighttime use when you use it in bed. But they recommend using it during sleep. The 2 year warranty is a thing on which everyone should rely on. Just the fact that the device is available in pharmacies says something about its quality. The scientific community would not easily accept a device like this. At least that is what I think. But the more I know the more I understand that for example in the States there is already a big scientific community supporting PE devices in general.

After a girth session the Large bell really seems to be small but I just squeeze it in. It would be nice to have an even larger bell so you could give a constant pump to the glans to make it bigger.

Looking at your picture I see what you mean. The XL bell should be better. My point with the pumping should be nonsense because the pump is not strong enough. I always pump all the way in. I just don't understand what you mean by saying that you can't get the glans in without putting oin the protector cap first. The protector cap is a hindrance in terms of size right? Also you should always put the cap on first.

So maybe your glans are just a little bit more sensitive. I haven't used the protector cap for about 3 days now but I will use it again sometime just to be sure everything is okay in the future.
 
I mean the protector cap compresses my glans and allows it to fit. If I try to put it on without the protector, it's actually tighter because it's not being compressed by the protector. The protector cap just barely covers all of my glans and compresses it quite a bit. Not a big fan of that which is why I would prefer not to use it.

And you're right. 2 year warranty and available in pharmacy is a big confirmation of quality.
 
Got the XL Bell and sleeve... MY GOD SO MUCH BETTER.

I used the XL bell and sleeve to do my manual stretches this morning and it held great, no loss of suction through the entire set of stretches.

Now i can barely feel the system when it's on. Highly recommend upgrading to the XL if you feel at all constricted by the Large sizes. Tomorrow i'm going to try the XL bell without the protector cap on my plan... see if it gets all crazy like it did in the L, which, in retrospect was probably my fault because i definitely pumped more than 5 times.
 
My system started to loose suction yesterday. Currently it is sucking in bubbles of air every now and then. I used baby powder on the flange of the bell - we will see if this works. Otherwise I would say that the condom is worn out. But it has been only a week since I am using the system. Now I will have to make a few experiments. I will also switch the condom to see whether the problem will be fixed.
 
Chaoskampf;729457 said:
My system started to loose suction yesterday. Currently it is sucking in bubbles of air every now and then. I used baby powder on the flange of the bell - we will see if this works. Otherwise I would say that the condom is worn out. But it has been only a week since I am using the system. Now I will have to make a few experiments. I will also switch the condom to see whether the problem will be fixed.
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Let us know how it goes. If the condom worn that quickly I would request a replacement.
 
BeefyBee;729855 said:
That was Chaos that had the issue. I haven't lost suction yet with the L or XL condom sleeves.
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My Bad. Chaos, did you ask for a replacement?
 
@ DLD: Thanks for the help. It must have been something else because now it is working well again. I have to make sure to pump for the right expansion otherwise it looses the vacuum too quickly.

@ Beefy Bee: Blood penis is a loose translation from German. A blood penis is considerably smaller when flaccid and gets most of its erect size from the blood. A so called "meat penis" doesn't really change its size between flaccid and erect state. A blood penis might be a evolutionary mechanism to avoid loss of heat in the body for people who live in the northern hemisphere.

Meanwhile I have gained 3.5 mm flaccid stretched bone pressed in 18 days. So 0.194mm per day.
 
The march continues and I had my first day off since the 20th of April because my glans had some irritation at the urinary meatus. The frenulum is stretched stressed after hanging and pumping sessions and it stretches the opening of the meatus. Together with the use of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] there is not a lot of time to rest for the glans and I think this caused in a small injury. Today I continued as usual. Sometimes I feel irritation at the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] ring and I change sides. I don't stretch on the red level but mostly on the green and sometimes on the yellow indicator. During the day I used it for about 10 hours with a minimum of 5 hours when I am out of the house. I do hanging with 2kg / 4.5 lbs when I cook 2x20 minutes. Additionaly I use the vacuum pump for 2x20 minutes up to 90 minutes in total. My flaccid measurements are looking allright but the change can't be from gains. I started 1 month ago with flaccid lengths between 20.4 and 21.4cm but I am now above 22cm with a maximum of 23.5cm. Today I measured 22.5cm but was unable to stretch to 23. I estimated the mistakes in measuring and subtracted the gains that come from being able to push the ruler more to the bone which gives me a length gain of 2mm. This is not a bad thing since I am not convinced whether I gained anything in the past two years.
 
Chaoskampf;731373 said:
The march continues and I had my first day off since the 20th of April because my glans had some irritation at the urinary meatus. The frenulum is stretched stressed after hanging and pumping sessions and it stretches the opening of the meatus. Together with the use of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] there is not a lot of time to rest for the glans and I think this caused in a small injury. Today I continued as usual. Sometimes I feel irritation at the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] ring and I change sides. I don't stretch on the red level but mostly on the green and sometimes on the yellow indicator. During the day I used it for about 10 hours with a minimum of 5 hours when I am out of the house. I do hanging with 2kg / 4.5 lbs when I cook 2x20 minutes. Additionaly I use the vacuum pump for 2x20 minutes up to 90 minutes in total. My flaccid measurements are looking allright but the change can't be from gains. I started 1 month ago with flaccid lengths between 20.4 and 21.4cm but I am now above 22cm with a maximum of 23.5cm. Today I measured 22.5cm but was unable to stretch to 23. I estimated the mistakes in measuring and subtracted the gains that come from being able to push the ruler more to the bone which gives me a length gain of 2mm. This is not a bad thing since I am not convinced whether I gained anything in the past two years.
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Sounds like an awesome plan. Lots of stretching and lots of gains! So glad you are back in the game!
 
Hey Beefybee, how is it going? For me it is still going good. My average in measurements is still increasing. I haven't measured more than 23.5cm so far though. But I expect to be over 23.5cm by the end of the month. Obviously at some point the growth curve will run out. I expect this to happen in the upcoming months.

Anyway since I am out of the house more often I also wanted to start wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] outside. I remember you were talking about the squeaking issue. I disassembled the thing and I believe it comes from the foil that has the colors for stretch intensity on it. If you touch it you will recognize that it is quite rough. So I put scotch tape on it and everything seems to be fine. Tomorrow I will try this.

Update: I didn't wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] today because I saw that the belt is visible at the back. Wouldn't be nice if my colleagues would see that during times where the shirt lifts. Maybe I will try another time.
 
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Chaoskampf;732833 said:
Hey Beefybee, how is it going? For me it is still going good. My average in measurements is still increasing. I haven't measured more than 23.5cm so far though. But I expect to be over 23.5cm by the end of the month. Obviously at some point the growth curve will run out. I expect this to happen in the upcoming months.

Anyway since I am out of the house more often I also wanted to start wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] outside. I remember you were talking about the squeaking issue. I disassembled the thing and I believe it comes from the foil that has the colors for stretch intensity on it. If you touch it you will recognize that it is quite rough. So I put scotch tape on it and everything seems to be fine. Tomorrow I will try this.

Update: I didn't wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] today because I saw that the belt is visible at the back. Wouldn't be nice if my colleagues would see that during times where the shirt lifts. Maybe I will try another time.
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I would not worry on the back strap, they would most like think you were wearing a thong :) Can you tuck in your shirt?
 
Haha, tucking in the shirt is a good idea. Got to buy new shirts that are a little bit larger then (have to do that anyway). I just came home and now I have 12 hours of stretching under my belt including the time after waking up. I went to work, to the gym and the supermarket and everything went fine. Switched sides every two hours. Since we have only one bathroom which gives full privacy it wasn't really a problem. Takes a few seconds longer but I don't think anybody will notice. Belt stayed under my underwear and it is not difficult to maintain the position by moving it from time to time. I have a big butt which makes it move a little bit upwards but I would say this can be handled.
 
Chaoskampf;732923 said:
Haha, tucking in the shirt is a good idea. Got to buy new shirts that are a little bit larger then (have to do that anyway).
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Good ideas come from simple minds :) I am very, very simple :)
 
So two weeks have passed and I did about 150 hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] + 20 hours of pumping + 5 hours of hanging. Faced some bright discoloration on the glans the last few days. Also the measurements became shorter again. I will take a day off today, maybe even tomorrow. I still get confused by the inconsistency of length.
 
Chaoskampf;733430 said:
So two weeks have passed and I did about 150 hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] + 20 hours of pumping + 5 hours of hanging. Faced some bright discoloration on the glans the last few days. Also the measurements became shorter again. I will take a day off today, maybe even tomorrow. I still get confused by the inconsistency of length.
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Are you really getting shorter? That's awful. I would start freaking out.
 
Chaoskampf;733430 said:
So two weeks have passed and I did about 150 hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] + 20 hours of pumping + 5 hours of hanging. Faced some bright discoloration on the glans the last few days. Also the measurements became shorter again. I will take a day off today, maybe even tomorrow. I still get confused by the inconsistency of length.
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First measuring continuosly can be a horrible mistake there are so many reason why you get different results everytime,ihave dealt whit exactly the same situation,2 Up to what i know loosing gains is almost impossible.....

Be patient wait for a couple of months before you measure again..If i was you Id do that..
 
Jwebater;733479 said:
Are you really getting shorter? That's awful. I would start freaking out.
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well penis shrunk is possible but lets see if you have cemented your gains thers no way we can loose them imho
 
LONGERDICK7+;733481 said:
well penis shrunk is possible but lets see if you have cemented your gains thers no way we can loose them imho
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Yea dude. Shrinkage is a nightmare. I can deal with anything but shrinkage...thats a nightmare if it happens
 
Jwebater;733482 said:
Yea dude. Shrinkage is a nightmare. I can deal with anything but shrinkage...thats a nightmare if it happens
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Train yourself to remain elongated! There are many ways to do so. You can use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] over a 6-12 months period to teach the penis to remain elongated. You can use any of our [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] to hold you at a light stretch to help train the penis. Lazy Ass Stretches also help. The penis automatically retracts when not in use to protect itself. This has been the deal your whole life so now you need to train it to stop retracting and to stay elongated.
 
My penis doesn't shrink but it resists stretching after long periods of exercising making the measurements smaller. I took that day off and everything was normal at nighttime. When I have worn the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for about 5-8 hours and finally return home, the glans will be a little bit stiff and pale. I do think that 12 hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] stretching is enough for me. I took my measurements from the first 4 weeks and made a graph out of it assuming a straight line. On the 20th I should have reached 24 cm BPFSL which I didn't. I might have gained 1 or 2 mm in the past 4 weeks. After all from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] study the growth curve should be exponential and maybe I have already exhausted the device even though I am using it for 2 months only. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] study claimed gains of 1.05 cm in 3 months on average if I am correct. 1.78 cm in 6 months and you can tell that the slope of the growth curve becomes smaller. Especially people who start long will gain little.
 
Chaoskampf;733766 said:
My penis doesn't shrink but it resists stretching after long periods of exercising making the measurements smaller. I took that day off and everything was normal at nighttime. When I have worn the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for about 5-8 hours and finally return home, the glans will be a little bit stiff and pale. I do think that 12 hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] stretching is enough for me. I took my measurements from the first 4 weeks and made a graph out of it assuming a straight line. On the 20th I should have reached 24 cm BPFSL which I didn't. I might have gained 1 or 2 mm in the past 4 weeks. After all from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] study the growth curve should be exponential and maybe I have already exhausted the device even though I am using it for 2 months only. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] study claimed gains of 1.05 cm in 3 months on average if I am correct. 1.78 cm in 6 months and you can tell that the slope of the growth curve becomes smaller. Especially people who start long will gain little.
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Dude it took me 10 years of wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to gain an inch. In 4 weeks you probably didn't gain anything.
 
After 2 months you have not exhausted the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. If growth has slowed or plateaued you will need to add intensity to the sets. Even if you get half the hours at a much higher intensity you will break the plateau. Another thing that will make better use of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] combination called the PhalloGenetics, it combines the two to create much more intensity. Also, I would also advise switching things up when you reach a plateau by either adding time, weight, new exercises or tools.
 
Based on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] study most gains should appear within the first 12 months. I took the two datapoints for average erect length gains and extrapolated using a polynomial fit for the data. In my first months my gains looked like they would be above average compared to the study, not it might have become way less. But I can add that I am using the device much more than the people in the study. Therefore my gains would come fast because at the end of the day hours of usage should be more important than the amount of days that you use the thing.

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Chaoskampf;733850 said:
Based on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] study most gains should appear within the first 12 months. I took the two datapoints for average erect length gains and extrapolated using a polynomial fit for the data. In my first months my gains looked like they would be above average compared to the study, not it might have become way less. But I can add that I am using the device much more than the people in the study. Therefore my gains would come fast because at the end of the day hours of usage should be more important than the amount of days that you use the thing.

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I mean, if you are wearing longer than they recommend then you should gain more than they pre-determine in the study.
 
Yes and no. If you extrapolate the data that they give you it becomes apparent that the growth slows down significantly after 3 months. The guys wore the thing for about 6 hours per day. Since I am wearing this for 12 hours I should get results twice as fast maybe but I am also quicker to run into the end of the growth curve.

Anyway I measured 24 cm today when I was 23.5 cm maximum last time. The camera angle is fucked up so it shows 25 cm but it was 24 cm. Still this is too good to be true.
In the meantime I ordered the XL bell because I had some problems with the Large chamber. The large chamber creates tension on the frenulum and the skin gets stuck between condom and chamber which creates some itches.

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Chaoskampf;734142 said:
Yes and no. If you extrapolate the data that they give you it becomes apparent that the growth slows down significantly after 3 months. The guys wore the thing for about 6 hours per day. Since I am wearing this for 12 hours I should get results twice as fast maybe but I am also quicker to run into the end of the growth curve.

Anyway I measured 24 cm today when I was 23.5 cm maximum last time. The camera angle is fucked up so it shows 25 cm but it was 24 cm. Still this is too good to be true.
In the meantime I ordered the XL bell because I had some problems with the Large chamber. The large chamber creates tension on the frenulum and the skin gets stuck between condom and chamber which creates some itches.

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Can't see picture. Email it to me and I will post it in this thread. [email protected]
 
Now that I have the XL bell I found out that there is no sieve anymore. The sieves from the smaller bells won't stick - they fit in diameter but the closure is not the same so it would have to be glued. I thought they forgot it but I already found a thread where they say it is not included in other deliveries as well.

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Chaoskampf;734319 said:
Now that I have the XL bell I found out that there is no sieve anymore. The sieves from the smaller bells won't stick - they fit in diameter but the closure is not the same so it would have to be glued. I thought they forgot it but I already found a thread where they say it is not included in other deliveries as well.

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I am lost without the pictures. Send them to me and I will post them. Email me at [email protected] I will add the pictures to the thread for you.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...744-how-to-post-pictures-so-they-show-up.html
 
The pictures are up for 1 day. On the next day they are gone. But I did everything in quick reply - now I did it via advanced. Thanks for the manual.

Swiss San replied and they say that nobody needs the sieve. I doubt this but I used one of the other sieves and glued in into the XL bell.

The XL bell is intersting because now I can keep the glans in the bell floating in a vacuum. I don't really know how the penis is able to stay in there but it works well.
 
I damn want one of these. Yeah if the growth curve plateaus you increase the intensity via other methods like hanging or intense stretches by hand while having a little rest from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I would say. But that is the users choice and I have never used one. I did have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words] but my ex went through my stuff several years back and threw it out ... seriously! wasn't impressed
 
Actually the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] will always suppress the penis to move into its smaller expansion. That alone should be the key to success for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] if you Superset it with other stuff like you said. To count on the tension of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] itself for growth won't be necessary anymore then. With time, you have a good understanding how the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] works and I am starting to think about making my own design of such a device. With another design you could implement stronger springs. The thing is that I rarely use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] at full force because it becomes uncomfortable for me.

Overall I used the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for about 10 hours per day in a course of 6 months. So here are a few more experiences:

1. I am still using the first condom size L. Actually I put it aside three days ago because I had some trouble with suction. I am not sure whether it is torn though. Personally I am impressed by the lifetime of the condom. With time I stretched it more and more due to pumping supersets and so on so it would not be a surprise if it breaks. Right now I am using the LG hanger sleeve and suction was perfect right after switching. Still, I am not sure whether the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] condom is broken. I have to investigate this first. There are days where you can't get proper suction with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. Another day it is gone again.

2. At the beginning I felt discomfort from the ring on the belt due to skin irritation. Later this didn't happen anymore. The biggest problem nowadays is skin that is pressed between the flange of the bell and the condom. This happens more often, the thicker the penis becomes. When I wear this in public, I have to go to the bathroom because it irritates the skin quite a lot. A solution to this is wrapping with sports tape with long straps to cover not only the glans but also the section where the shaft exits the bell- this wide sports tape is sometimes painful to take off again. Therefore I experiment with baby powder and put it on before I put on the sports tape. Sometimes it helps.

3. I started to wear it during cycling and it works now since I already lost some body fat and it works fine as long as you don't wear baggy pants since baggy pants have the waistband where the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] bell sits. That is not so comfortable. Actually a problem many people with jeans might have. After some time I noticed that the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is causing a dark-red spot on the skin because the bell-spring system rubs on it due to all the pedaling.

4. Psychological factor of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is immense because it means that you can exercise all the time.

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I damn want one of these. Yeah if the growth curve plateaus you increase the intensity via other methods like hanging or intense stretches by hand while having a little rest from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I would say. But that is the users choice and I have never used one. I did have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words] but my ex went through my stuff several years back and threw it out ... seriously! wasn't impressed
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Check with LIGHTNING Red, He may be able to help.
 
Chaoskampf;742593 said:
Actually the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] will always suppress the penis to move into its smaller expansion. That alone should be the key to success for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] if you Superset it with other stuff like you said. To count on the tension of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] itself for growth won't be necessary anymore then. With time, you have a good understanding how the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] works and I am starting to think about making my own design of such a device. With another design you could implement stronger springs. The thing is that I rarely use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] at full force because it becomes uncomfortable for me.

Overall I used the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for about 10 hours per day in a course of 6 months. So here are a few more experiences:

1. I am still using the first condom size L. Actually I put it aside three days ago because I had some trouble with suction. I am not sure whether it is torn though. Personally I am impressed by the lifetime of the condom. With time I stretched it more and more due to pumping supersets and so on so it would not be a surprise if it breaks. Right now I am using the LG hanger sleeve and suction was perfect right after switching. Still, I am not sure whether the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] condom is broken. I have to investigate this first. There are days where you can't get proper suction with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. Another day it is gone again.

2. At the beginning I felt discomfort from the ring on the belt due to skin irritation. Later this didn't happen anymore. The biggest problem nowadays is skin that is pressed between the flange of the bell and the condom. This happens more often, the thicker the penis becomes. When I wear this in public, I have to go to the bathroom because it irritates the skin quite a lot. A solution to this is wrapping with sports tape with long straps to cover not only the glans but also the section where the shaft exits the bell- this wide sports tape is sometimes painful to take off again. Therefore I experiment with baby powder and put it on before I put on the sports tape. Sometimes it helps.

3. I started to wear it during cycling and it works now since I already lost some body fat and it works fine as long as you don't wear baggy pants since baggy pants have the waistband where the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] bell sits. That is not so comfortable. Actually a problem many people with jeans might have. After some time I noticed that the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is causing a dark-red spot on the skin because the bell-spring system rubs on it due to all the pedaling.

4. Psychological factor of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is immense because it means that you can exercise all the time.

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Thanks for that extensive review, it will help other Brothers who are undecided. There really is nothing that compares to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and that is why we took them in as a partner.
 
I didn't try. What do you have in mind?

1. Hanging from the spring system would cause serious stress on the fork. It is very likely to break except if you limit the weight to the maximum [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] tension which is about 3kg = 6.6 lbs.
2. Using just the bell with your own attachments should work. They claim that the bell is unbreakable. Unfortunately a user here mentions that he broke his - but he never told the story about the accident.

I am hanging with the LG Hanger which is basically the same system. The only difference is the wall thickness and material, pump performance and hook capabilities. Obviously I will claim that this kind of hanging is superior to all hangers that use clamping mechanisms but this forum thinks otherwise anyway so I won't even try. If you look on the thread for what is the best hanger, a vacuum hanger isn't even mentioned. I believe this is because people here don't like to spend money or because one of our users is selling his own device.
 
Chaoskampf;742994 said:
2. Using just the bell with your own attachments should work. They claim that the bell is unbreakable. Unfortunately a user here mentions that he broke his - but he never told the story about the accident.

I am hanging with the LG Hanger which is basically the same system. The only difference is the wall thickness and material, pump performance and hook capabilities. Obviously I will claim that this kind of hanging is superior to all hangers that use clamping mechanisms but this forum thinks otherwise anyway so I won't even try. If you look on the thread for what is the best hanger, a vacuum hanger isn't even mentioned.
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My default PE position is comfort, convenience and enjoyment...if I can incorporate all 3, then I'm most likely to be consistent. The vacuum attachment system is attractive due to the fact that I don't really like having to squish my dick so much to prevent slippage as I increase the weight. If the vacuum could remain attached with 15, 20, 25+ pounds, I'm in!

Any advice which would work best for this application type?
 
25 pounds isn't even that much, I will probably go much higher than that. 70 pounds should be possible. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is strong too but you don't want to risk such an expensive device. Squishing will be necessary most of the time. The vacuum isn't really causing the attachmnent - actually it is the friction of the wrapped glans on the wall. Wrapping has to be figured out with all of these devices so even the high end stuff is not free of trouble. I estimate the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] vacuum to be 5 inHg maximum. I don't think it is much higher. Something that should be considered if someone tries to hang.
 
Chaoskampf;743105 said:
25 pounds isn't even that much, I will probably go much higher than that. 70 pounds should be possible. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is strong too but you don't want to risk such an expensive device. Squishing will be necessary most of the time. The vacuum isn't really causing the attachmnent - actually it is the friction of the wrapped glans on the wall. Wrapping has to be figured out with all of these devices so even the high end stuff is not free of trouble. I estimate the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] vacuum to be 5 inHg maximum. I don't think it is much higher. Something that should be considered if someone tries to hang.
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good info, thank you. how does you LG stay 'connected' w/25#+?
 
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