Today I was looking at a thread where basically thunders were slagging off DLD again and generally trying to discredit him, it occurred to me that all this does is muddy the water for everyone else. It is hard enough for people who are new to this to try and find the truth amongst so many scams and people to who are just out to make a quick buck. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and Thunders Place despite there differences share a common goal which is why so many of us are members of both. Good advice can be found on both but this sometimes is obscured by the mud slinging that Thunder and others on his forum throw at DLD. There main beef seems to be with DLD's discrepancies over the size he claims to be. He is reported to have said he was 12 inches before but now only claims to be 10.5. It would beneficial for all of us if this was resolved. If DLD could be the bigger man and tell thunder to come round to his place and he can get a measurement for himself there could be no more disputing it, then maybe they could go for a drink afterwards and just agree to differ on some points. It was strange to me that SWM wrote that story about the night with DLD (starbucks coffee, pissing in a car, eating his own shit) now he has apologised for his behaviour, does that mean he admits that the story is untrue. I am posting this because some clarification is needed as to what the fuck is going on because the only thing that is clear is someone is talking shit. I hope that this is not taken the wrong way I just think these things could be sorted then we could all move forward quicker and more efficiently to reaching our goals, rather than reading about something then it been thrown in to doubt because someone says it is BS. Ultimately we all have to find our own way as a we can not live vicariously as other peoples experiences are just that and will differ greatly sometimes to what we find ourselves. So maybe no one is right or wrong but what can not be disputed is the negative effect this has on the Penis Enlargement community when perhaps the real enemy is medical profession who claim that you can not enlarge your penis and the con artists trying to make a quick buck. If we channel our energy in to fighting them and resolve our internal differences without completely trying to discredit someone who has a difference in opinion then I believe we can make some giant leaps forward. It truly is a case of united we stand divided we fall. As I said before this is meant to be constructive not start an argument, I believe until we resolve this the Holy Grail of Penis Enlargement will continue to illude us.

Peace my brothers
 
bigjim7 said:
It was strange to me that SWM wrote that story about the night with DLD (starbucks coffee, pissing in a car, eating his own shit) now he has apologised for his behaviour, does that mean he admits that the story is untrue.
Peace my brothers

No, that story I posted was a 100% true account. DLD really is a nut when he's off his medication. He himself will tell you that. I appologised for attempting to make DLD look bad, and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] look bad.

The way I have come to see things is basically this. It really doesnt matter to me who is telling the truth about their penis size. This stuff (Penis Enlargement) works when the methods are applied with a deliberate, and consistant amount of effort. Even if the messenger (the person bringing you whatever exercise) is blowin' smoke up your ass about their size, or gains...it doesnt matter if the product, or exercises work. BIB is one of my favorite examples. His hanger is one of the best products for gaining length out there. He claimed to make over 4" in erect length gain in about 2 years time. Not everyone believed him, but again....who cares? His product, and hanging work when used consistently.

The "fueding" between the forums really is childish when you look at the big picture.
 
stillwantmore2 said:
No, that story I posted was a 100% true account. DLD really is a nut when he's off his medication. He himself will tell you that. I appologised for attempting to make DLD look bad, and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] look bad.

The way I have come to see things is basically this. It really doesnt matter to me who is telling the truth about their penis size. This stuff (Penis Enlargement) works when the methods are applied with a deliberate, and consistant amount of effort. Even if the messenger (the person bringing you whatever exercise) is blowin' smoke up your ass about their size, or gains...it doesnt matter if the product, or exercises work. BIB is one of my favorite examples. His hanger is one of the best products for gaining length out there. He claimed to make over 4" in erect length gain in about 2 years time. Not everyone believed him, but again....who cares? His product, and hanging work when used consistently.

The "fueding" between the forums really is childish when you look at the big picture.

Thanks for replying SWM I was worried that you might take this as a personal attack which is not what I intended. I just want to get to the bottom of some of the ludicrous claims that are made to try and discredit DLD. Obviously there are the issues surrounding the discrepancies of his size claims but people just get silly when they start saying it is possible he has never even Penis Enlargement'd and talks total shit. My point is if DLD has a theory the more people that experiment with it the better the feedback the quicker that theory evolves. However if the slur campaign against DLD works and he is discredited then less people believe what he is saying and the process slows down so everyone is the loser. The forums are all working for the same goal but some times we can be our own worst enemy. It just saddens me when I read the shit at Thunders about DLD and I'd be lying if I said it didn't cast any doubts in my mind. Thats why there is no benefit to anyone in muddying the water.
Your point about the messenger is an excellent one this stuff really works which makes it even worse that some people make it look like a con with the feuding that goes on. I notice that BIB never seems to get involved in this and maintains a dignified silence (at least to my knowledge) that is why I can't wait to get my BIB hanger.
 
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(this will sound egotistic but it is not, it is fact) Thundersplace is a complete and absolute community about DLD. They have always been about me and after I left continued to keep the format about me. When I first got involved with Penis Enlargement I made advances that no one had ever witnessed before my coming. I was a member at Big Al's site, peforums.net. I spent a year at Big Al's forum during which time I continued to develop new and more powerful exercises. Also, during this period, I invented what is now called Mental Penis Enlargement, a psychological means to the minds growth in confidence as the penis grows. My advances in exercise, theory and my own gains quickly became the talk of a new forum, Thundersplace. Upon my very first posting, literally, I was asked to be a moderator. Something at the time I knew was Thunder using me to bring my already large following to his forum. I continued to post at both forums, T's and Peforums. Every moderator, every member at Thundersplace embraced and used my exercises. Check any of my old threads there, particularly the DLD Blaster Thread which if it were not locked by Thunder would still be the largest thread they have ever had. I continued to do my part for the Penis Enlargement communities and eventually found myself taking on way to many one on one members that I could not both do my job and the Penis Enlargement charity work. At this point I decided to open my own site, which was held in high regard by EVERY member of the forums, including Thunder. As I worked on putting together my site and posted about my progress my following grew in very large bounds. I think Thunder believed I would fail but when he saw that I would not fail and quite possibly take a large portion of his business he decided to de-mod me and start a anti-DLD campaign. I had a friend in the mod forum, Twat teaser, who sent me all mod activity. I read Thunders plans on trying to discredit me and he rallied the support of his moderator. Upon my acknowledgment of their plan I decided to leave Thunders and start my own forum, something I had no plans of doing (my site was only the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] paysite). I made my final thread at Thunders (DLD says a sad fair-well to Thunders). The thread became massive and in a small amount of time every posting member of Thunders with the exception of his DLD-hit Squad, gave me unbelievable support. I never made another post there and the rest is history.

My penis size became the easiest place for Thunders to attack as it directly effected my credibility. These attempts were futile but even today they try these same tired tactics. My size is well documented by an un-biad outside source, GQ Magazine. When the penis enlargement article was being created by Peter Ruben (then the staff writer for GQ) I was to be the main focus of the story. This required a personal interview where a requirement was a measurement by Peter Ruben (read the story on SALON.com) He witnessed and recorded my size (then I believe it was 10") In addition to this documentation I have had plenty of other outside sources witness my measurement including BangBros. Many of my personal clients have also asked to come to my house for personal instruction where most asked out of curiosity for a measurement. In every instance it was consistent with my claims.

At this point in my career I have decided I will no longer do pics, video or any other nude work. My concentration is on ALPHA BLADE and the advancement of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] penis exercise.

Stillwantmores mostly fictitious story was more than likely based on his embarrassment of me bitch smacking him for grabbing me. I do not like to be touched and when he did so I had to put him down. I am more ghetto than project steps due to my life experience. My mental status is well documented by the press and myself. I am Bi-Polar and off my medication I am a mess. But ask yourself, if I did not have these mental disabilities would Penis Enlargement be where it is today?
 
doublelongdaddy said:
(this will sound egotistic but it is not, it is fact) Thundersplace is a complete and absolute community about DLD. They have always been about me and after I left continued to keep the format about me. When I first got involved with Penis Enlargement I made advances that no one had ever witnessed before my coming. I was a member at Big Al's site, peforums.net. I spent a year at Big Al's forum during which time I continued to develop new and more powerful exercises. Also, during this period, I invented what is now called Mental Penis Enlargement, a psychological means to the minds growth in confidence as the penis grows. My advances in exercise, theory and my own gains quickly became the talk of a new forum, Thundersplace. Upon my very first posting, literally, I was asked to be a moderator. Something at the time I knew was Thunder using me to bring my already large following to his forum. I continued to post at both forums, T's and Peforums. Every moderator, every member at Thundersplace embraced and used my exercises. Check any of my old threads there, particularly the DLD Blaster Thread which if it were not locked by Thunder would still be the largest thread they have ever had. I continued to do my part for the Penis Enlargement communities and eventually found myself taking on way to many one on one members that I could not both do my job and the Penis Enlargement charity work. At this point I decided to open my own site, which was held in high regard by EVERY member of the forums, including Thunder. As I worked on putting together my site and posted about my progress my following grew in very large bounds. I think Thunder believed I would fail but when he saw that I would not fail and quite possibly take a large portion of his business he decided to de-mod me and start a anti-DLD campaign. I had a friend in the mod forum, Twat teaser, who sent me all mod activity. I read Thunders plans on trying to discredit me and he rallied the support of his moderator. Upon my acknowledgment of their plan I decided to leave Thunders and start my own forum, something I had no plans of doing (my site was only the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] paysite). I made my final thread at Thunders (DLD says a sad fair-well to Thunders). The thread became massive and in a small amount of time every posting member of Thunders with the exception of his DLD-hit Squad, gave me unbelievable support. I never made another post there and the rest is history.

My penis size became the easiest place for Thunders to attack as it directly effected my credibility. These attempts were futile but even today they try these same tired tactics. My size is well documented by an un-biad outside source, GQ Magazine. When the penis enlargement article was being created by Peter Ruben (then the staff writer for GQ) I was to be the main focus of the story. This required a personal interview where a requirement was a measurement by Peter Ruben (read the story on SALON.com) He witnessed and recorded my size (then I believe it was 10") In addition to this documentation I have had plenty of other outside sources witness my measurement including BangBros. Many of my personal clients have also asked to come to my house for personal instruction where most asked out of curiosity for a measurement. In every instance it was consistent with my claims.

At this point in my career I have decided I will no longer do pics, video or any other nude work. My concentration is on ALPHA BLADE and the advancement of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] penis exercise.

Stillwantmores mostly fictitious story was more than likely based on his embarrassment of me bitch smacking him for grabbing me. I do not like to be touched and when he did so I had to put him down. I am more ghetto than project steps due to my life experience. My mental status is well documented by the press and myself. I am Bi-Polar and off my medication I am a mess. But ask yourself, if I did not have these mental disabilities would Penis Enlargement be where it is today?

At this point in my car

Thanks for the recap on your past history with T's, this was before my time so it was interesting to read. The magazine article is all the proof I needed about your true size. The only disrepancy I have found is on your paysite in Jens lunchbox section she claims to have measured you at 12inches but hey guess your right about women not being good judges of size. Thanks again for replying and keep up the good work.

P.S. Can you please tell me what Alpha Blade is or give me a link to it as all I know about it is what they said at Thunders about the release date.
 
bigjim7 said:
Thanks for the recap on your past history with T's, this was before my time so it was interesting to read. The magazine article is all the proof I needed about your true size. The only disrepancy I have found is on your paysite in Jens lunchbox section she claims to have measured you at 12inches but hey guess your right about women not being good judges of size. Thanks again for replying and keep up the good work.

P.S. Can you please tell me what Alpha Blade is or give me a link to it as all I know about it is what they said at Thunders about the release date.

Jaz, my partner and weBathmateaster, made a few errors on the tour pages of the pay-site. I am not sure if they have all been corrected but I am not 12"...I don't think anyone is.

ALPHA BLADE, is easy to find out about, there are many threads if you search. The release date was wrong and I completely overstepped my confidence on when my work would be complete. I am still working on the project but I will not release it until I feel it is worthy of public critique. That is just the way I am, a perfectionist. ALPHA BLADE is my life's work and it encompasses many of my theories and theorems in many areas of science and meta-science and how these apply to Penis Enlargement, exercise, psychology, physics, philosophy, etc. I understand the anticipation and peoples frustration with my delays but I need to be 100% before I can open the site in good conscious. The site will be free and open to the public so any talk of monetary gains are unfounded and another way to degrade my image.
 
More Meat said:
Well who hasnt pissed in a car, ate their own shit and then went out for some starbucks?


:D I do it everyday. Sometimes I save the shit for after a venti double mocha.
 
Thinking more on this topic. Does Thundersplace need me to stay open? I mean they have been talking about me so much that the site should be called Mike's Place. I have not been on the forum for more than 3 years and I bet that the most searched phrase is something to do with me. It really confuses me, don't they realize how pathetic and obviously jealous they appear? Sad.
 
Mike, never stop being the open and intuitive person that you are. I have seen people bash you on this site before, but your confidence shines when you are steadfast in how many times you have backed up your claims.

If Thunder had went through the same things as you, and someone even mentioned anything about his gains being fake, it'd be an immediate ban.

You have a much stronger character than him, in that you are able to take criticism without it affecting you, which again leads back to confidence.

I have an account at Thunders using a different name, but I have never posted there and probably never will because of the pre-packaged BS community there. It seems that anybody who challenges the status quo over there is immediately shunned and banned. If anyone goes against what the all might Thunder thinks then it's an automatic ban for you. I have seen numerous times when Thunder has threatened to ban long-time members with over 2000 posts. Who in the hell would ban someone with 2k+ posts at the drop of a hat anyway?

Thunder seems to me like one of those fascist dictators who likes to control how people act and think. I can definitely see him plotting to discredit you, while pretending to be your friend all the while. He's just one of those people who would make a "great" politician.

You have contributed WAY more to the community than Thunder has. All Thunder has to really say he has contributed to the Penis Enlargement community as a whole has been that he started a site in which there are tens of thousands of members(closed membership, too).

YOU on the other hand have what he has, a product and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] line out of it, TV interviews, 100s of exercises, etc.

Really, when I first started people bashing and using whatever to prove that your gains were fake, I thought about how I should view this site and you. I thought, "well, it doesn't matter if DLD is 3" long, he made a ton of great exercises, a huge community, and also contributes his personal life and his mistakes so that we can all learn from him, physically, mentally, and spiritually."

Don't feel bad about being yourself, Mike. Without your influence the game would have been a lot different, and for the worse.
 
10inchadvantage said:
Mike, never stop being the open and intuitive person that you are. I have seen people bash you on this site before, but your confidence shines when you are steadfast in how many times you have backed up your claims.

If Thunder had went through the same things as you, and someone even mentioned anything about his gains being fake, it'd be an immediate ban.

You have a much stronger character than him, in that you are able to take criticism without it affecting you, which again leads back to confidence.

I have an account at Thunders using a different name, but I have never posted there and probably never will because of the pre-packaged BS community there. It seems that anybody who challenges the status quo over there is immediately shunned and banned. If anyone goes against what the all might Thunder thinks then it's an automatic ban for you. I have seen numerous times when Thunder has threatened to ban long-time members with over 2000 posts. Who in the hell would ban someone with 2k+ posts at the drop of a hat anyway?

Thunder seems to me like one of those fascist dictators who likes to control how people act and think. I can definitely see him plotting to discredit you, while pretending to be your friend all the while. He's just one of those people who would make a "great" politician.

You have contributed WAY more to the community than Thunder has. All Thunder has to really say he has contributed to the Penis Enlargement community as a whole has been that he started a site in which there are tens of thousands of members(closed membership, too).

YOU on the other hand have what he has, a product and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] line out of it, TV interviews, 100s of exercises, etc.

Really, when I first started people bashing and using whatever to prove that your gains were fake, I thought about how I should view this site and you. I thought, "well, it doesn't matter if DLD is 3" long, he made a ton of great exercises, a huge community, and also contributes his personal life and his mistakes so that we can all learn from him, physically, mentally, and spiritually."

Don't feel bad about being yourself, Mike. Without your influence the game would have been a lot different, and for the worse.

Thank you so much for that post, it made me smile and realize I still am doing the right thing.

At this point in my life my size has nothing to do with my present and future plans and contributions to Penis Enlargement. Dealing with the physical portions of penis enlargement I have always approached it with a deducible mentality. Being a scientist at heart I have always looked at physical-pe in a purely logical manner. Each exercise was and is an expression in mathematics. I did my research, created experiments and disclosed my findings. I was not willing to accept the findings of my predecessors, I respected their findings and, of course, built my own ideas around what existed but I never was willing to leave well enough alone. I have never accepted what was considered fact and I will never stop being curious and obsessed with creating a better model. My own gains and exercises that made them possible, regardless of the validity that some question, have been a staple in even my adversaries routines. Thunders, sly in their ways, have taken many of my exercises and theories, renamed them and re-posted them...I guess this somehow justifies their need to use what I have created with a false sense of security that no one will know. I have never, nor will I ever, expect comeuppance from anyone using my exercises, whether the name is DLD Bends or Sad-Sak Slinkies. I do view their meretricious disregard to give credit where credit is due as sad and embarrassing but if my contributions, even in disguise, helps men gain then my objectives are satisfied.

On a more meta-physical level as it is only realized in an intuitive affectation, my work in psychological Penis Enlargement began as my own desire to conquer demons that plagued my own life. Wearing my heart on my sleeve, which was selfish in many ways as I hoped for the help and attention of my comrades, grew into a new branch of Penis Enlargement. With everything I have done in my years in Penis Enlargement I hold the mental Penis Enlargement in the highest regard. The fact that many men see themselves in a skewed semblance and my modest contributions to this area of disorder help them correct their self-view gives me more contentment than the actual exercises that make their penis larger.

Thunder lost me in his need to slay his own pathetic frailty and somehow save face in the wake of my revocation [to bigger and better things] and still to this day he could emerge as a better man to just admit the errors of his ways but this, as many things in life, will probably never happen.

I could care less what is happening at Thundersplace, it has absolutely no impact on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] (accept the constant promotion of my/MOS's name). Since the beginning of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] it climbed a steady and consistent path of success. Success does not come from dishonesty as no one can wear a face of deceit before he is exposed as the liar he is. I have no secrets, everyone who wants to know anything about me, ANYTHING, can easily find it in the public domain. Whether it be my mental disabilities, past indiscretions, failed relationships, whatever, it is there for anyone to view. People make their decisions to be a part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for their own reasons but I have always felt that them knowing me before they make this commitment creates the type of community I want. A community that is open to discuss, explore and create with freedom of expression. I am not, nor will I ever be a dictator. I am a servant to the following [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has created.

"Let every man be respected as an individual and no man idolized." AE
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Thank you so much for that post, it made me smile and realize I still am doing the right thing.

At this point in my life my size has nothing to do with my present and future plans and contributions to Penis Enlargement. Dealing with the physical portions of penis enlargement I have always approached it with a deducible mentality. Being a scientist at heart I have always looked at physical-pe in a purely logical manner. Each exercise was and is an expression in mathematics. I did my research, created experiments and disclosed my findings. I was not willing to accept the findings of my predecessors, I respected their findings and, of course, built my own ideas around what existed but I never was willing to leave well enough alone. I have never accepted what was considered fact and I will never stop being curious and obsessed with creating a better model. My own gains and exercises that made them possible, regardless of the validity that some question, have been a staple in even my adversaries routines. Thunders, sly in their ways, have taken many of my exercises and theories, renamed them and re-posted them...I guess this somehow justifies their need to use what I have created with a false sense of security that no one will know. I have never, nor will I ever, expect comeuppance from anyone using my exercises, whether the name is DLD Bends or Sad-Sak Slinkies. I do view their meretricious disregard to give credit where credit is due as sad and embarrassing but if my contributions, even in disguise, helps men gain then my objectives are satisfied.

On a more meta-physical level as it is only realized in an intuitive affectation, my work in psychological Penis Enlargement began as my own desire to conquer demons that plagued my own life. Wearing my heart on my sleeve, which was selfish in many ways as I hoped for the help and attention of my comrades, grew into a new branch of Penis Enlargement. With everything I have done in my years in Penis Enlargement I hold the mental Penis Enlargement in the highest regard. The fact that many men see themselves in a skewed semblance and my modest contributions to this area of disorder help them correct their self-view gives me more contentment than the actual exercises that make their penis larger.

Thunder lost me in his need to slay his own pathetic frailty and somehow save face in the wake of my revocation [to bigger and better things] and still to this day he could emerge as a better man to just admit the errors of his ways but this, as many things in life, will probably never happen.

I could care less what is happening at Thundersplace, it has absolutely no impact on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] (accept the constant promotion of my/MOS's name). Since the beginning of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] it climbed a steady and consistent path of success. Success does not come from dishonesty as no one can wear a face of deceit before he is exposed as the liar he is. I have no secrets, everyone who wants to know anything about me, ANYTHING, can easily find it in the public domain. Whether it be my mental disabilities, past indiscretions, failed relationships, whatever, it is there for anyone to view. People make their decisions to be a part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for their own reasons but I have always felt that them knowing me before they make this commitment creates the type of community I want. A community that is open to discuss, explore and create with freedom of expression. I am not, nor will I ever be a dictator. I am a servant to the following [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has created.

"Let every man be respected as an individual and no man idolized." AE
The proof of the pudding is definitely in the eating, for all the DLD knockers that are out there they still can't take away the fact that your routines and exercises really work. You offer a unique insight in to the mental side of Penis Enlargement and beyond that. Where as there is some good advice at Thunders they seem to be suffering from a bad case of tunnel vision in only viewing Penis Enlargement as exercises. There is not enough focus on the mental side and your interest in science, philosophy and religion I think gives you a broader perspective and framework to approach the subject matter with and infinitely more options. I look forward to the eventual release of Alpha Blade and hope that the continued mud slinging directed at you from thunders does not hinder our journeys forward togehter.

Peace
 
sikdogg said:
Hell, i think i've done that once or twice and i'm not bi-polar... ;)

Really, who hasn't? Stillwantmore should really try it, it may help his gains:D
 
Another confusion I have with Thundersplace is the amount of users they supposedly have on their board. For instance, today I looked at their main forum and there was only 5 posts for the day. With 60,000 members and an average of 700 online at a time doesn't that sound peculiar? [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]'s post count is consistent with our traffic to the forum, we average 200 posts per day. I become very suspicious of a discrepancy that huge. I know that there are programs that boast member count, add fake users, etc. this is the only explanation for this gap, unless their mod forum is pumping out a couple hundred posts a day. Their total member count, since we passed them last year seems to be questionable also. Their member count is always ahead of ours at this point, I see that we are ahead at times and like clock-work, a week later their count is boosted and I mean by alot. If this is the case it is very pathetic.
 
I have wondered why there are so few new threads as I check every day and its usually the same old banal stuff. I really don't know the answer to that however unlike here you can just view threads without registering so maybe there are a lot of lurkers.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Another confusion I have with Thundersplace is the amount of users they supposedly have on their board. For instance, today I looked at their main forum and there was only 5 posts for the day. With 60,000 members and an average of 700 online at a time doesn't that sound peculiar? [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]'s post count is consistent with our traffic to the forum, we average 200 posts per day. I become very suspicious of a discrepancy that huge. I know that there are programs that boast member count, add fake users, etc. this is the only explanation for this gap, unless their mod forum is pumping out a couple hundred posts a day. Their total member count, since we passed them last year seems to be questionable also. Their member count is always ahead of ours at this point, I see that we are ahead at times and like clock-work, a week later their count is boosted and I mean by alot. If this is the case it is very pathetic.

I think a lot of the other posting goes on in the feminized forums...the non Penis Enlargement talk forums....where they discuss girly fantasy stuff, homo erotica, and other non Penis Enlargement related talk. Their actual Penis Enlargement forum however, is not very busy most of the time.
 
stillwantmore2 said:
I think a lot of the other posting goes on in the feminized forums...the non Penis Enlargement talk forums....where they discuss girly fantasy stuff, homo erotica, and other non Penis Enlargement related talk. Their actual Penis Enlargement forum however, is not very busy most of the time.

:D That is fucking funny...I bet Thunder has a vagina:D
 
doublelongdaddy said:
:D That is fucking funny...I bet Thunder has a vagina:D
Now, now DLD I know he slags you off all the time but do you need to lower yourself to his level:O But seriously I just wanted to let you know that although the waters are muddy and it is hard to know who is telling the truth and who is not eventually you have to go with your gut instinct. After our discusssions on the "More than just Penis Enlargement?" thread it has become obvious to me that you are a man of great intelligence and I do not believe a man who speaks so eloquently on the subject matters that we have previously discussed would be guilty of the deceitful crimes he has been accused of at Thundersplace. You have so much to offer us in the Penis Enlargement community it is such a shame that people try and tarnish your image I implore you to try and do everything to disprove these allegations they make against you. The one I would like to see you resolve is the allegation of the photoshopped images of your penis as this argument is so damaging to the Penis Enlargement community as a whole.
 
bigjim7 said:
Now, now DLD I know he slags you off all the time but do you need to lower yourself to his level:O But seriously I just wanted to let you know that although the waters are muddy and it is hard to know who is telling the truth and who is not eventually you have to go with your gut instinct. After our discusssions on the "More than just Penis Enlargement?" thread it has become obvious to me that you are a man of great intelligence and I do not believe a man who speaks so eloquently on the subject matters that we have previously discussed would be guilty of the deceitful crimes he has been accused of at Thundersplace. You have so much to offer us in the Penis Enlargement community it is such a shame that people try and tarnish your image I implore you to try and do everything to disprove these allegations they make against you. The one I would like to see you resolve is the allegation of the photoshopped images of your penis as this argument is so damaging to the Penis Enlargement community as a whole.

In any efforts to disprove the banter of my advisories implications I would be lowering myself to a standard consistent with guilt. I need not prove anything to these people, their accusations are not based on my validity but on their own dubiosity and turpitude. My penis size has absolutely nothing to do with their motives and I will never recognize it as such. I have paid those dues, I have not only made pictures and video available for testimonial value but I have been scrutinized by the press. My time of validation is no longer a priority to me. If my contributions to Penis Enlargement and the men who have gained from this benefaction are not enough for my antagonist disbelievers then be it. I challenge any of these pessimist's to debate the effectiveness of my exercises...if they show that they have not benefitted this movement I will close this site and take a job at McDonald's.
 
I hear what your saying Bro I would just love to see them shut the fuck up, how many people have they sent down the wrong path because they called you a fraud.
 
There a quite a few general types of people on Penis Enlargement forums, but just to name a few . . .

Penis Enlargement Politicos - Guys with nothing better do than get invloved in forum flaming contests and endlessly bitch over strict forum rules . . . these guys mostly reside at Thunders. I believe they're mostly bored married men or lonely and sad fucks. Likely to lie about their gains and complain about unverified minutia of Penis Enlargement techniques in between stints of adjusting auto insurance and adult entertainment surfing. 50ish, obsessed with girth and weird adult entertainment, praying their kids aren't smart enough to check their browser trails, and so, so sad . . .

Novice Posters - This field includes all the underage kids and teenagers that get on the forums and either post bullshit or really naive comments. Easy to identify, basically harmless, except when the injure their dicks and give the weBathmateasters legal implication heart attacks . . . nothing worse than mom and dad q. public with a lawyer and a web address.

Sincere and Normal Dudes That Want To Give Penis Enlargement A Shot At Enlarging Their Dicks For Various Personal Reasons - mmm, 10% ? I'd like to say more, but reading the forums doesn't bolster belief in a larger figure. That's actually pretty decent considering the amount of traffic these sites generate as well as the actual number of normal posters.

Crazy Foreigners (Ferriners!) - We all know these guys: "hey Dld, my penis is being at least 10-5 cms uncut, so what is the fastest length for gaining and my girlfriend says she likes it but i think i can do more, plus good work on all the gains. these pics are not erect to show my gain. thanks and i would liek to know of some gaining by yours." You know, like Borat, but real.

Hero Worshippers - Hate to come down on them, but guys that foam at the mouth at the revelation of all this, and their subsequently adoring posts that will tolerate no criticism of any Penis Enlargement wisdom or anything deriding the god-like status of prominent figures in the Penis Enlargement world. No need to provide proof or substantiated explanations for these fellows, they'll tug their dicks right off to show their dedication to some strangers on the internet who claim to have figured out how to enlarge their penises. Treat them tender fellas . . . they need all the help they can get. In fact, advise them to get into an after school program, learn a vocation, and spend less time on the internet. We're all better off for it.

Complusive Bullshitters/Obsessives - Tend to be bright but brief flames on the forums. Often disruptive in nature, they start out with unbridled enthusiasm and positively annoying levels of posting (usually replying to any and every topic imaginable with the same painfully limited vocabulary and tone, often identified by the much reviled 'font smiley' icon set). Eventually they will revolt and/or start out on their own, proclaiming to have mastered Penis Enlargement on their own steam and rejecting the establisHydromaxent that they once claimed was a godsend and a bright beacon in a cold html world. The forum breathes a collective sigh of relief when these weird assholes finally depart to more ADD tolerant pastures. Anime and myspace fixations may be early warning signs.

Schemers/$$$ - The guys that learn the ways of the forums and are additionally smart enough to pick up on the desperate and naive nature of many of the people that end up on Penis Enlargement sites. This is not to speak of their own desperate, naive, and fundamentally exploitative natures. They'll sell products, self-made items, advice, whatever, the only common denomenator is that they see the money making potential of sites like this and want a piece of those fat Penis Enlargement revenues for themselves. Frankly, I see this practice as being somewhat akin to the crack-dealing street soldier that risks his life on the corner peddling rocks for a scarce profit, while the their distributorship and higher-ups collect serious money from their pandering, but I don't doubt that the occasional huckster can turn around a few grand selling their wonder gadgets and quick-fix inventions on somebody else's webspace. I say more power to 'em, it's a market economy, nobody can make money without suckers. For one bit of good - you can make as many Penis Enlargement gains as is likely possible with some lube and your right hand - but don't take my word for it, and please do buy my new and improved 'mega-rings of super (supra) power' - guranteed 2' length, 1' girth, just wear it for 15 minutes a day and watch some made up scientific principle change your life forever. Also you'll get fucking jacked from all the additional testosterone.

Guys That bust Their Asses, Take The Forums With A Grain Of Salt, Don't Politic, Bitch, Sell Shit, and Most Importantly: Gain - Word up to SikkDog, Crazyed, Brian Rex, Goldmember, Penguinsfan, and many others that I can't recall off hand, you know how you are.

Gay Cruisers - They're around, it is a site about cocks after all. I know I check in with all the natural tit-enlargement sites . . . haha (barely). I'm not a homophope, at least I don't think, but anybody that spends time on any of these forums will have noticed that there is a percentage of guys on here that are lonely/disconnected gay men that seem to just enjoy the frank discussions of male sexuality. There's also a repressed group that can't quite come to grips with their own feelings but love all the shaft and balls talk nonetheless. These are the guys that used to to kind of freak you out during pledge semester for your frat. They ain't hurtin' nobody . . . but they are making the picture proof section even harder to deal with . . .

Bored Stoners That Probably Don't Penis Enlargement A lot - These guys are alright, they give the forums much needed shots of character and humor. Plus they always have cool graphics and links, and othe shit. What?

Aspiring Penis Enlargement Gurus That Sadly Struggle For Recognition In A Little Internet Niche- Not many of these guys around these days, but they often fall into the schemer/$$$, desperately unhappy middle-aged married guy, and unlisted pscho category. Often demand credit for "inventing" Penis Enlargement stuff, claim pioneer status, demand moditorial repsect, was philosophical about their Penis Enlargement journeys, and commit legendary assaults on english grammar. Despite such, they're kind of the driving engine behind Penis Enlargement and usually the most entertaining posters, so give them they anonymous applause that they crave.

Cynical Assholes That Infrequently Post, Believe There Is Some Merit To Penis Enlargement, But Have Always Been Too Lazy To Really See Any Real Gains - Uhhhhhhh . . . Ahem.

The People That Pay For These Sites - I don't know what I think about DLD or his gains, or methods, but homeboy pays for the site that everybody here likes posting on. If you think he's a liar, jackass, imposter, profiteer, whatever, then go stick it up your ass. He deserves credit just for letting people say as much all the time. Even if he's banking on this site and Penis Enlargement isn't worth a shit, then it's a sucker's fault for buying in without looking hard first. The guy isn't selling the grand answers to life or even a sure thing - and you have to admit that most of the important Penis Enlargement knowledge is free on his hosted forum. On some level the dude buys into this stuff (how else could anybody commit so much time and energy? Unless they're batshit crazy, which DLD admits to, so I may be arguing in circles, but I digress), and it seems to help some people, so why hate? He's probably helped out more people than you, and if you think he's not legit, guess who cares? Some other bitter asshole like you? Well, yeah, that's probably the only other person.
 
stridge said:
There a quite a few general types of people on Penis Enlargement forums, but just to name a few . . .

Penis Enlargement Politicos - Guys with nothing better do than get invloved in forum flaming contests and endlessly bitch over strict forum rules . . . these guys mostly reside at Thunders. I believe they're mostly bored married men or lonely and sad fucks. Likely to lie about their gains and complain about unverified minutia of Penis Enlargement techniques in between stints of adjusting auto insurance and adult entertainment surfing. 50ish, obsessed with girth and weird adult entertainment, praying their kids aren't smart enough to check their browser trails, and so, so sad . . .

Novice Posters - This field includes all the underage kids and teenagers that get on the forums and either post bullshit or really naive comments. Easy to identify, basically harmless, except when the injure their dicks and give the weBathmateasters legal implication heart attacks . . . nothing worse than mom and dad q. public with a lawyer and a web address.

Sincere and Normal Dudes That Want To Give Penis Enlargement A Shot At Enlarging Their Dicks For Various Personal Reasons - mmm, 10% ? I'd like to say more, but reading the forums doesn't bolster belief in a larger figure. That's actually pretty decent considering the amount of traffic these sites generate as well as the actual number of normal posters.

Crazy Foreigners (Ferriners!) - We all know these guys: "hey Dld, my penis is being at least 10-5 cms uncut, so what is the fastest length for gaining and my girlfriend says she likes it but i think i can do more, plus good work on all the gains. these pics are not erect to show my gain. thanks and i would liek to know of some gaining by yours." You know, like Borat, but real.

Hero Worshippers - Hate to come down on them, but guys that foam at the mouth at the revelation of all this, and their subsequently adoring posts that will tolerate no criticism of any Penis Enlargement wisdom or anything deriding the god-like status of prominent figures in the Penis Enlargement world. No need to provide proof or substantiated explanations for these fellows, they'll tug their dicks right off to show their dedication to some strangers on the internet who claim to have figured out how to enlarge their penises. Treat them tender fellas . . . they need all the help they can get. In fact, advise them to get into an after school program, learn a vocation, and spend less time on the internet. We're all better off for it.

Complusive Bullshitters/Obsessives - Tend to be bright but brief flames on the forums. Often disruptive in nature, they start out with unbridled enthusiasm and positively annoying levels of posting (usually replying to any and every topic imaginable with the same painfully limited vocabulary and tone, often identified by the much reviled 'font smiley' icon set). Eventually they will revolt and/or start out on their own, proclaiming to have mastered Penis Enlargement on their own steam and rejecting the establisHydromaxent that they once claimed was a godsend and a bright beacon in a cold html world. The forum breathes a collective sigh of relief when these weird assholes finally depart to more ADD tolerant pastures. Anime and myspace fixations may be early warning signs.

Schemers/$$$ - The guys that learn the ways of the forums and are additionally smart enough to pick up on the desperate and naive nature of many of the people that end up on Penis Enlargement sites. This is not to speak of their own desperate, naive, and fundamentally exploitative natures. They'll sell products, self-made items, advice, whatever, the only common denomenator is that they see the money making potential of sites like this and want a piece of those fat Penis Enlargement revenues for themselves. Frankly, I see this practice as being somewhat akin to the crack-dealing street soldier that risks his life on the corner peddling rocks for a scarce profit, while the their distributorship and higher-ups collect serious money from their pandering, but I don't doubt that the occasional huckster can turn around a few grand selling their wonder gadgets and quick-fix inventions on somebody else's webspace. I say more power to 'em, it's a market economy, nobody can make money without suckers. For one bit of good - you can make as many Penis Enlargement gains as is likely possible with some lube and your right hand - but don't take my word for it, and please do buy my new and improved 'mega-rings of super (supra) power' - guranteed 2' length, 1' girth, just wear it for 15 minutes a day and watch some made up scientific principle change your life forever. Also you'll get fucking jacked from all the additional testosterone.

Guys That bust Their Asses, Take The Forums With A Grain Of Salt, Don't Politic, Bitch, Sell Shit, and Most Importantly: Gain - Word up to SikkDog, Crazyed, Brian Rex, Goldmember, Penguinsfan, and many others that I can't recall off hand, you know how you are.

Gay Cruisers - They're around, it is a site about cocks after all. I know I check in with all the natural tit-enlargement sites . . . haha (barely). I'm not a homophope, at least I don't think, but anybody that spends time on any of these forums will have noticed that there is a percentage of guys on here that are lonely/disconnected gay men that seem to just enjoy the frank discussions of male sexuality. There's also a repressed group that can't quite come to grips with their own feelings but love all the shaft and balls talk nonetheless. These are the guys that used to to kind of freak you out during pledge semester for your frat. They ain't hurtin' nobody . . . but they are making the picture proof section even harder to deal with . . .

Bored Stoners That Probably Don't Penis Enlargement A lot - These guys are alright, they give the forums much needed shots of character and humor. Plus they always have cool graphics and links, and othe shit. What?

Aspiring Penis Enlargement Gurus That Sadly Struggle For Recognition In A Little Internet Niche- Not many of these guys around these days, but they often fall into the schemer/$$$, desperately unhappy middle-aged married guy, and unlisted pscho category. Often demand credit for "inventing" Penis Enlargement stuff, claim pioneer status, demand moditorial repsect, was philosophical about their Penis Enlargement journeys, and commit legendary assaults on english grammar. Despite such, they're kind of the driving engine behind Penis Enlargement and usually the most entertaining posters, so give them they anonymous applause that they crave.

Cynical Assholes That Infrequently Post, Believe There Is Some Merit To Penis Enlargement, But Have Always Been Too Lazy To Really See Any Real Gains - Uhhhhhhh . . . Ahem.

The People That Pay For These Sites - I don't know what I think about DLD or his gains, or methods, but homeboy pays for the site that everybody here likes posting on. If you think he's a liar, jackass, imposter, profiteer, whatever, then go stick it up your ass. He deserves credit just for letting people say as much all the time. Even if he's banking on this site and Penis Enlargement isn't worth a shit, then it's a sucker's fault for buying in without looking hard first. The guy isn't selling the grand answers to life or even a sure thing - and you have to admit that most of the important Penis Enlargement knowledge is free on his hosted forum. On some level the dude buys into this stuff (how else could anybody commit so much time and energy? Unless they're batshit crazy, which DLD admits to, so I may be arguing in circles, but I digress), and it seems to help some people, so why hate? He's probably helped out more people than you, and if you think he's not legit, guess who cares? Some other bitter asshole like you? Well, yeah, that's probably the only other person.

Great post just trying to workout what category I fit in to. It really highlights my point though about trying to see clearly what is real and what is fake.
 
u guys ever watch old kung fu movies cuz this shit is like shoalin and wu tang swordsmen man.

the shaolin temple is like those old fashioned dudes who dont wanna advance and shit and they standin around with their hands together sayin "buddha bless you" but they're gettin bitch smacked the fuck up. so the wu tang started their own shit and theyre the badass motherfuckers who got the craziest styles n smackin up those whack ass monks slicin n dicin em up wit swords n shit cuz their style is way better.
 
bigjim7 said:
Great post just trying to workout what category I fit in to. It really highlights my point though about trying to see clearly what is real and what is fake.


Me too!! Man, he really covered the gamut!!! :)
 
goinfor11x7 said:
Do you think the great P.E. god in the sky will punish me for gossiping?


:cool:


Nah, your cool. I just spoke with him and he told me gossiping was his favorite pass time....but then again, the Penis Enlargement God is Thunder, isn't it? :D Quite the Paradox.
 
10inchadvantage said:
All I know is that my penis is getting bigger. Ever onward, comrads!

Indeed! The best way to win a battle of words is in the actions that prove your position.
 
10inchadvantage said:
All I know is that my penis is getting bigger. Ever onward, comrads!


Mine too, 10 inch!! Whoohoooo!! I can't keep that sucker in my pants anymore!!

Long live DLD's "expressive stretching!" Shit!! My dick's "expressing itself" all over the place.

Lol, lol!!!
 
goinfor11x7 said:
Mine too, 10 inch!! Whoohoooo!! I can't keep that sucker in my pants anymore!!

Long live DLD's "expressive stretching!" Shit!! My dick's "expressing itself" all over the place.

Lol, lol!!!

Express Yourself
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goinfor11x7 said:
Mine too, 10 inch!! Whoohoooo!! I can't keep that sucker in my pants anymore!!

Long live DLD's "expressive stretching!" Shit!! My dick's "expressing itself" all over the place.

Lol, lol!!!

My flaccid stretch just looked like it was expressing itself to almost 8.75" when pulling on my TheGRIP sleaves(great way for measuring flaccid stretch, amongst other things). Never could get a good flaccid stretch readout with my hands alone.
 
Just had a thought, maybe Thunder poses on this forum as some of the more controversial members to stir up shit. Maybe he is willmaker, alphalphie and contract killer and just puts loads of stupid shit in posts to try and discredit this forum.
 
bigjim7 said:
Just had a thought, maybe Thunder poses on this forum as some of the more controversial members to stir up shit. Maybe he is willmaker, alphalphie and contract killer and just puts loads of stupid shit in posts to try and discredit this forum.

It is impossible to discredit us as we all believe ourselves to be credible. The opinions of negative people are the reflection of their own shortcomings.
 
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