Monkeybar's or Max-vac

[longstretch]

I'm coming back from a month and a half break. I really think that hanging is for me and am interested in starting. I made a wench but it pulls my head too hard. So I figured I would get a vacuum hanger. The question is this should I get monkeybars' vacu-hanger or the max-vac.

I'm in college so money is an issue. I'm kinda leaning towards the max-vac. The vacu-hanger cost $90 but looks really crude. I mean I know its a simple design but $90!!! While the max-vac is $116 I think it has a larger following plus if I did want to do the pump method I could buy a hand pump for $20 and it looks more friendly to dicks.

Things I would like to know to compare are users experience, preferences; the subject of blisters and preventing them; comfort level; how discretely they can be used as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]; and anything else you guys think is worth knowing.

thnx

 

[10inchadvantage]

Get a TheGRIP Economy Package. I have had no blistering problems with it at all. Any fluid buildup that you get goes away within five minutes. It can hold any amount of weight you want. For heavier weights use black electrical tape to hold the sheaths. It's a perfect system in my eyes because one part is the hanger, and the other part is the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. Once again, all of this uses vacuum so it is very comfortable. They have also been in business for 10 years I think and have had great customer support when I called them with any problems. They even told me a few tips and tricks to save more money rather than blowing it on more sheaths/their own tools/whatever.

For $179.95 you get a quality hanger and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. I think you really do need an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to see and keep gains(especially flaccid).

Message me if you really want to get this as I might have found a little hack that can save you 25%($134.96). I would have tried it back during when I bought it but I just found it this past week. You don't need a pump for this either, they send a nice bulb cheapo one that works just as good.

If you have some reason for not going with TheGRIP, from what I have seen and heard, I'd get a MaxVac, compared with Monkeybar's hanger.

If you do go with TheGRIP get their Economy Package, as all the other packages are just a rip off, you can save a ton of money by buying weights, using the string they send you as a waist-strap [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], etc.

 

[10inchadvantage]

Also, you don't need any lube with TheGRIP. And while I haven't fully tested this out, I don't think you'd really need any new sheaths if you were to wrap the shaft with black electrical tape before hanging. Although I just started doing this today, we'll see how it goes!

All in all, get a vacuum device over a vice or noose style any day!

 

[The BTC Killer]

$116.00 for the MV. The grip(R). is O.K, but not as comfortable and stable.

 

[10inchadvantage]

$116.00 for the MV. The grip(R). is O.K, but not as comfortable and stable.

Was TheGRIP that thing your friend was wearing after your surgery? Just wondered as I have only heard of TheGRIP, yours, and monkeybar's as being the only vacuum hangers, are there any others?

The biggest problem with me for the MaxVac is that I wanted an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. I seriously considered both TheGRIP and the MaxVac. If the MaxVac had a real [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] option then it'd be a whole lot more convincing.

TheGRIP was such a godsend after trying vice hangers. OUCH! But it does look like the MaxVac uses more pressure than TheGRIP, due to the larger chamber. How long do the sheaths last for the MaxVac? I've wondered if someone could convert a smaller diameter pump into a MaxVac-style hanger using their own custom sheaths.

There was some guy at Thund3rs Pl@ce posting his homeade vacuum hanger that only cost him $35. It uses Chinese acupuncture vacuum tubes. It's a really nice design. He used a latex glove as the sheath. That might be another alternative for those who can't spend more than $50 on devices. Although, it can't hold nearly as much weight as TheGRIP or the MaxVac. It also isn't a viable [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] option.

BTC, have you ever used TheGRIP and what problems did you have with it?

I wonder if TheGRIP guys are lurkers on the Penis Enlargement scene.

 

[The BTC Killer]

BTC, have you ever used TheGRIP and what problems did you have with it?

I wonder if TheGRIP guys are lurkers on the Penis Enlargement scene.

I use the mv as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] endlessly. and probably lurkers jimmy matthews crew. like I said, the grip is ok, but I have little experience with it.

 

[10inchadvantage]

Is there a difference in the learning curve between TheGRIP and the MaxVac?

I mean, when I got my TheGRIP in the mail I could immediately hang 45 minutes with 5 pounds without any discomfort or fluid buildup. I thought that since I had been vacuum pumping for about 8 months my penis was pretty used to the vacuum. But on the MaxVac site a lot of people have problems with hanging 5-10 lbs right away like I was able to. Also it seems fluid buildup lasts a lot longer with the MaxVac as the MaxVac relies on the head expansion to hang, whereas with TheGRIP it's more of tieing down the sheaths without doing it too tight/taping the sheaths together. Don't get me wrong, there is certainly a bit of vacuum being used(my pump is broken so I can't monitor how many pounds of pressure I am using) but the fluid build-up seems to be controlled by the sheaths keeping the head "intact", and the fluid buildup that I get is gone within 5 minutes of taking the sheaths off and it's very little.

I wouldn't find the MaxVac useful for an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] as I'd need to wrap it around my waist because I am stretching my tunica rather than the ligs, and the waist is the best place I can [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] at, and it's too bulky to wear under clothing.

Again I can't claim any of the things about MaxVac from personal experience because I have never used one.

A big advantage that MaxVac users have is a big community forum. TheGRIP users don't have a big support group for help or questions. If TheGRIP did have forums I'm sure it'd be a lot more successful for both them and their users. They need to update their site too, all of those products are outdated and their new ones look cooler in my opinion. I have wondered many a day why TheGRIP hadn't caught on in the Penis Enlargement community sooner. I mean, vac hangers only recently got popular this past year or so. They have been around forever but even on old Penis Enlargement sites like peforums and T's place there were very few posts about TheGRIP and vacuum hanging in general. I mean, imagine how many more men would have hung and developed better vacuum hangers if people weren't so obsessed with that painful Bib Hanger(and other variants, compared to vacuum) then the Penis Enlargement community would be a lot more advanced in my opinion, with multiple gains to show, too.

 

[longstretch]

Thanks 10inch and btc. Btc is the max-vac doing anything to stop blisters. I can understand a little fluid build-up but definitely not blisters on my dick. Well I'll post back latter I gotta run.

 

[stillwantmore]

I'd go with the MV. Superior design of the Three above choices. Replacement parts are cheaper...including sleeves. Best customer support...it's literally a toll free call away...AND you can speak to the guy who makes them...not some kid in a cubicle reading off a list of "FAQs" on a screen. It CAN be worn for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. Check the Max Vac forum over on mynewsize.com/forum You can also use much more weight than the other above hanging systems without needed to use "tape" or some other gimmick.

 

[10inchadvantage]

The reason why you don't have to use tape with the MaxVac is the same reason why there are users getting blisters with it. It's two different types of methods. The MaxVac works by using vacuum to pull the head in and expanding it to hold while you hang, while TheGRIP works by keeping [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] on the the hour-glass and g-flex sleeves. And it's not like taping is a problem, I reuse the same 2 foot length of electrical tape to comfortably wrap, takes about 20 seconds to put on, and there is no slippage whatsoever. After about 10 pounds you should use electrical tape if you are hanging with TheGRIP.

How would you use the MaxVac as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] if you were hanging for tunica gains?

 

[The BTC Killer]

The grip, the MV, and the Vacu-hanger all have the potential to cause blisters. It's simple, pressure, expansion can lead to blisters. Can I hang 30 pounds with the mv, can I wear it to sleep, can I wear it for hours at a time. Yes, but it takes consistancy and practice like any other form of Penis Enlargement.

 

[10inchadvantage]

The grip, the MV, and the Vacu-hanger all have the potential to cause blisters. It's simple, pressure, expansion can lead to blisters. Can I hang 30 pounds with the mv, can I wear it to sleep, can I wear it for hours at a time. Yes, but it takes consistancy and practice like any other form of Penis Enlargement.

This gives me a cool idea. I wonder if someone could use one of those machine-pumps to control the vacuum in a vacuum hanger. Like if it got too low it'd up it, and if something happened and the pressure became too much it'd lower it back to whatever the user set it at. That'd probably prevent most injuries.

 

[TomdW]

My progress thread gives a good summary of my experience with the MaX-Vac. I love it and I kept a diary of how my hanging routine went over three months. I gained 0.5" BPSFL.

Read it here:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21883

 

[longstretch]

wow tomdw .5 inch gain in three months that is impressive. Also when will you be hosting another championship. That sounds so cool. I can't wait to see the results. I'm sorry I missed the chance to enter.

Okay so all these devices have the potential to cause blisters you just have to be conditioned is that correct? Well how long does it take to become conditioned. I don't expect to be hanging 30 lbs anytime soon but how long till I will be able to hang 10 lbs with the mv. Does anyone have any comments on monkeybar's hanger? If so I guess its out of my mind. it is a pretty simple design I would buy it if it was at max $50 but not for $90.

Can any of you mv supporters answer 10inch's question on how to use the mv as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for tunica gains. 10inchadvantage, how have your gains been using the grip. I've never even heard of it but it looks pretty cool. How much can the grip hang. The mv can be used with or without a pump so it can obviously hang more right? But poundage is not something I'm worried about right now. I think 10-15 would be more than enough for gains.

 

[longstretch]

Something else I've been wondering about. Does hanging have an effect on erections. When I first started Penis Enlargement a couple of years ago I remember reading that hanging decreased the strength of erections. It has only been recently that I have considered hanging. I can definitely see why a noose method of hanging would decrease erections. but what about vacuum hangers?

 

[The BTC Killer]

Can any of you mv supporters answer 10inch's question on how to use the mv as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for tunica gains.

http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=345
http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1454

Something else I've been wondering about. Does hanging have an effect on erections. When I first started Penis Enlargement a couple of years ago I remember reading that hanging decreased the strength of erections. It has only been recently that I have considered hanging. I can definitely see why a noose method of hanging would decrease erections. but what about vacuum hangers?

http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1427

~BTC

 

[longstretch]

thanks Btc. My debit card came in today. I've decided to go with the max-vac. It is cheaper than the grip. More professional than the vacu-hanger and has a huge forum following. I just want to say a thank you to btc, 10inch, and tomwd. I can't wait to get it and try it out. If anyone has any must reads before use I would appreciate a post.

 

[10inchadvantage]

It's impossible to use the MaxVac as a tunica [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] UNDER clothes. A chamber is just too big to be wearing around over your waist, same with TheGRIP's chamber, which is why they made a weight-attachment sleeve. Well, in a session I can go from about 8 bpfsl to 8.75 bpfsl from hanging with TheGRIP, over a few hours, but it's not TheGRIP that makes the gains, as vacuum hanging IS vacuum hanging, just there are different products. I saw a lot of posts on people getting mad fluid buildup so that was a main reason I went with TheGRIP as I don't get donuts or anything like that from it, even though I'll hang 3x more than a lot of MaxVac guys who have been using it for a few months.

You can hang, potentially, as much weight as you want with TheGRIP, but I'm not sure how I'm going to fair at 20+ pounds. I have started wrapping around the sheaths on the chamber with electrical tape to keep a really good hold, because the strap they give you only helps for up to about 10 pounds, then it starts to be a problem with slippage. I'll definitely keep you guys updated with my hanging routine with TheGRIP. Blackice and I seem to be the only two posters on here who use TheGRIP, so TheGRIP really isn't well known.

You made a good choice going with the MV. Just make sure you take it slow and steady as BTC says that is how it is supposed to be used. Follow his directions for use and everything should be fine. Hanging 10 lbs OTS with the MaxVac is going to be the same as hanging 10 lbs OTS with TheGRIP. The gains are going to be the same for the same person. Although I never regret wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] 8+ hours a day.

If you want an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to help, I think you could order the weight-attachment sleeve and two g-flex sleeves from TheGRIP and ask them for their attachment rope. I'm not sure if you have to have been a customer though. Chambers just aren't meant to be used for ADSing. Please keep us updated with your progress. If you have any trick/tips/hacks for your MaxVac, please put them in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25503
Also, BTC and anyone else, you are welcome to put any tricks for your products or other products you are using to help people get the most out of them. I want that thread to be chock full of great information! It'd help out the community a whole lot, thanks guys!

 

[The BTC Killer]

It's impossible to use the MaxVac as a tunica [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] UNDER clothes.

I don't think you "get" the MV. It is very effective across the tunica when worn as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. I think it's a matter of you not understanding where the actual pull is coming from. It's hard to determine the "pull" factor from pictures. It's more of a feel thing. I'm sure any MV user will know what I'm talking about!

~BTC

 

[10inchadvantage]

What I mean is that if I want to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] around my waist, I can't do it because you can see the chamber under clothes. Sure, you can use it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] around your house, and if you're ADSing down, you can wear it outside. But I'm not going to walk around with a chamber across my waist for everyone to see. My point was that it's very visible if you're ADSing around your waist in public.

 

[stillwantmore]

What I mean is that if I want to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] around my waist, I can't do it because you can see the chamber under clothes. Sure, you can use it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] around your house, and if you're ADSing down, you can wear it outside. But I'm not going to walk around with a chamber across my waist for everyone to see. My point was that it's very visible if you're ADSing around your waist in public.

You seem hell bent on the idea that the only way to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (for you anyway) is to wear some device around your waist?? Whats up with this man? Just curious.

 

[10inchadvantage]

You seem hell bent on the idea that the only way to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (for you anyway) is to wear some device around your waist?? Whats up with this man? Just curious.

Well since I am hanging only SO and OTS I figured the best way for me to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would be an OTL variant, which is why I [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] around my waist. It's the only probable way I can [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for tunica gains. If I [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] any other way I'd be working the ligs, which I don't want.

 

[BusyMan]

Hi all,

Great thread!
I am considering buying one of the comercially available vacuum hangers too. Either Monkeybars Vacu-hanger, the Max-Vac, or maybe even the Grip.

Personally, I like the no-nonsense vacuum-pump-less design of the vacu-hanger, but I understand that the Max-Vac can be used the vacuum-pump-less-way too.

From what I can see, both the Vacu-hanger and the Grip systems come with constriction sleeves. Are these to minimize fluid buildup or what?
What are your opinions on these? Are they needed for hanging heavier weights, or is that simply done by making your unit used to the higher pressures?

And then I have a question about that electrical tape thingy used by the grip users: Why is that needed? Do you put the tape directly on the penis, because the seal between sleeve and tape is better than between sleeve and skin? Or have I misunderstood what this taping thing is all about.

When looking at the Grip web site, it seems that there are lots of parts in the economy package. What does a basic setup for hanging consist of? (What is the G-Flex sleeves and the hour-glass shaped sheaths needed for, respectively?)

Any further input you may have on this are really apprechiated.

-BusyMan

 

[BusyMan]

Bump... Anyone?

 

[twofistd]

i would have probably bought the max-vac myself, but seeing as how they are out of order and i dunno when the max-vac2 is coming out, i went with the vacu-hanger by autoextender instead.

after trying it out for the first time, i thought i had made a big mistake, but after a couple trial sessions of getting used to it, i'm loving the vacu-hanger now.

i can take it on and off in seconds and it's small enough to keep hidden from my nosy kid.

i think in the past there has been concern over the strength of the sleeves themselves which come with it, but mine is holding up nicely and i'm currently hanging 10lbs without any problems.

so far i've been hanging for at least one hour a day, plus i've been using it on and off as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] whenever i can.

out of all my sessions so far, i've only had fluid build-up once, so i've personally found no use for the constriction sleeve yet.

anyways, i haven't tried any of the other vacuum hangers, so i can't tell you how good or bad they are. i do know that if you get a vacu-hanger, i doubt you'll be disappointed.

good luck.

 

[longstretch]

Here's what I wrote in another forum about the max-vac to BusyMan.
"It sure beats the hell out of the Wench. It takes some time getting used too but I think it does a very good job. I hang with the no-handpump method. It is more expensive than the Vacu-hanger but I believe it is of slightly better quality. BTC is now selling the Max-Vac II for $99. He had a link in the forum. If you can I would go for that one b/c it is supposed to be new and improved. If you do decide to go with a Max-Vac don't buy the pump b/c, 1.) You can hang without the pump, I think BTC has hung up to 20 or 30 lbs, and 2.) there are cheaper alternatives.

I still think that its way too expensive for a plastic cup and some plastic sheaths but I didn't want to have to go through the hassle of making something and I think I would of still ended up buying a commercial hanger. I've heard good news from the Vacu-hanger and the Grip. I started a thread at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] when I was deciding what to buy so you can read that b/c you can hear different perspectives. I ultimately went with the Max-Vac b/c it looked more professional, has excellent customer service, and an "active" forum."

And about the sheaths.
"Depends on how often and how much force/weight you are using. Since doing Bjorn's hanging program only requires 6 days o f hanging and 5 days of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] I have not had to change my sheaths. Well I do not use one anymore but that was my fault, I saw some white plastic ball inside of the sheath and pulled it out, which lead to a hole in the sheath. So don't do that. I think I read they can last for 3 months, don't hold me to it, but will probably last longer with Bjorn's routine."




I'm not so sure how long those sheaths last so if someone with more experience would comment that would make this thread better. I also thought I made a mistake in buying the max-vac because at one point it was losing suction and kept popping off. The problem was my inexperience but I think I have a good grasp on how to use it now and i couldn't be happier. The grip, Max-vac, and vacu-hanger are all excellent hangers and will all get the job done so the decision should come down to warranty, price, durability, customer service and amount of information. I ultimately choose the Max-Vac and have purchased the Max-Vac II. I'm not sure if that was a good idea but I will see when it comes in.

 

[EVO]

i can get 2 months usage out of the sheaths based on 1 hour / day hanging, although you will want new sheaths for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] so they prob wont last as long then

 

[8InchMIKE]

i can get 2 months usage out of the sheaths based on 1 hour / day hanging, although you will want new sheaths for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] so they prob wont last as long then

Could one use a rubber glove finger for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] ? You think it would retain the proper vacuum ?? If so then it would be a very cheap way of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]'ing without the need to use the hanger sheets... Just a thought dudes...

 

[10inchadvantage]

The guys making and selling these things are making a killing. My girlfriend has done molds and stuff like that, and when she looked at TheGRIP system she said it probably would take no more than $25 to make a system like that, at the most.

 

[Reber187]

The guys making and selling these things are making a killing. My girlfriend has done molds and stuff like that, and when she looked at TheGRIP system she said it probably would take no more than $25 to make a system like that, at the most.

your woman is cool as fuck!!!


keep pushing

 

[BusyMan]

8inchMike,

It is not possible to use a rubber glove finger for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], the end at the tip of your penis will collapse, and it will slide off. Try it out. The end of the condom you put on to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] with needs to be hard to be able to build up the vacuum that transfers the forces which stretches the penis. For that kind of thing you could get the Bardia URO thingies
http://cgi.ebay.com/BARDIA-Reusable...ryZ36440QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
which are more or less identical to the special condoms of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
http://www.phallosan.com/us/anwendung.html
(watch one of their movies, their kit costs $279 !!)

-BusyMan

 

[JKISINEFFECT]

just wanted to add my 2 cents , i hang with the max vac , ive been hanging for at least 4 months , and my erections are out of this world. hanging increses my erections , shit i get morning wood every day

 

[8InchMIKE]

8inchMike,

It is not possible to use a rubber glove finger for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], the end at the tip of your penis will collapse, and it will slide off. Try it out. The end of the condom you put on to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] with needs to be hard to be able to build up the vacuum that transfers the forces which stretches the penis. For that kind of thing you could get the Bardia URO thingies
http://cgi.ebay.com/BARDIA-Reusable...ryZ36440QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
which are more or less identical to the special condoms of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
http://www.phallosan.com/us/anwendung.html
(watch one of their movies, their kit costs $279 !!)

-BusyMan

Thanks brotha that info was very usefull man, now i won't bust my penis trying some lame half ass glove finger eheheh.

Peace

Mike