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Im about 5'.9 bpel
Averagish
But is it length that really matters or girth?
Is 7 in 5.5 girth that much better for sex than 5.9 in with 5.9 girth
 
Depends on the woman. That's all really.

Length is great for getting in there deep and girth is great for spreading the pussy open. Woman prefer girth over length but having both is best. Makes them go nuts.
 
Depends on the girl and on the position but on average I'd definitely go with my current penis size over pre-PE size... It's just more fun and impressive *for me*...

Example: I can easily grab my cock with one hand at the base and with the remaining length perform forceful, vagina stretching circles/propellers and not have the tip slip out.

Example number two: I can delay pleasure by only putting 3/4 of my cock in for the first few minutes and then when the time is right, sink in all the way and watch those eyes roll back.

Example number 3: It just looks awesome in a mouth.
 
Thin, and short = no "full" feeling. Can only hit certain spots in some positions. Depends on the woman. In general this is unsatisfying. Will cause low to medium clitoral orgasms (depending on how worked up she is).

Thin, and long = no "full" feeling. May be able to hit those deep spots. With technique one could teach themselves to hit the anterior or posterior fornix consistently and she would be somewhat satisfied.

Thick, and short = gives her that "full" feeling, but only so far back. Won't hit those deep spots in the back (of course, if she hasn't experienced any orgasms that way then it may not even be an issue). Will cause high to intense clitoral orgasms (maybe even vaginal if she can do those).

Thick, and Long = gives her that "full" feeling all the way back. Can hit all the deep spots (with experience on how to hit them without killing the cervix). Will cause intense clitoral orgasms. For obvious reasons, this is king. Aesthetically speaking, this is the best looking on any male.
 
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huge-girth;679420 said:
Morethanluck, how many inches in length do you consider as long.

I was going to include length and girth values in my previous post, but since this is quite subjective I could not bring myself to write a specific number since the total length of any given vagina is different from woman to woman. For my wife, long is anything that is 7.25-7.5 inches (I've measured, this is the max she goes when fully aroused and tented). Now I believe there is an inverse relationship between length and girth as I have seen it where the thicker something is (an extension or dildo) the less of it she can take all the way back. So while she may be able to take a 7.5 inch length penis at 6 inches girth, she would only be able to take a 6-6.5 when the girth starts getting into the 6.25-6.5 range. I don't know why this happened, but if you take a plastic bag out and put your hand through to the back as hard at you can go, you'll see the sides start to collapse inwards. This affect is even more pronounced when the object is larger in girth.
 
I am not going to lie. . . It play a HUGE role!
A longer dick has deeper penetration and thus stays for a longer period in the vagina IE: longer inward/outward movement
gets even better if you have an above average girth too, due to the fact that there is more friction coupled with deeper penetration.
However in my opinion, if you aren't above 8" nbpel it wouldn't be much of a difference.
And this is where "penis-smithery" comes into play.
If you don't have 8" >, it would be better to play in the shallows and deeps.
go figure.
 
theman6;679404 said:
Im about 5'.9 bpel
Averagish
But is it length that really matters or girth?
Is 7 in 5.5 girth that much better for sex than 5.9 in with 5.9 girth

Girth matters the most but length is important too.At 7x5.5 you should give her great orgasms.
 
Morethanluck, you are 100% correct. I'm currently 7.5 bone pressed erect and my girth is 5.6. After my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session, I expand to 6.5 mid girth and 7 inches at the base. Girls who normally take me balls deep from doggy style find it difficult if I have sex with them after my girth session.
 
huge-girth;679439 said:
Morethanluck, you are 100% correct. I'm currently 7.5 bone pressed erect and my girth is 5.6. After my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session, I expand to 6.5 mid girth and 7 inches at the base. Girls who normally take me balls deep from doggy style find it difficult if I have sex with them after my girth session.

Using this reasoning, it would be safe to assume that if one was lacking in the length department, he could easily make it up if his girth is much larger (in the fabled 6-7in zone) due to the vagina essentially collapsing inward on itself. I would therefor conclude that girth is king, and if you're on the table about which one to try and achieve first; girth has the biggest bang for your buck, so to say.
 
MoreThanLuck;679441 said:
Using this reasoning, it would be safe to assume that if one was lacking in the length department, he could easily make it up if his girth is much larger (in the fabled 6-7in zone) due to the vagina essentially collapsing inward on itself. I would therefor conclude that girth is king, and if you're on the table about which one to try and achieve first; girth has the biggest bang for your buck, so to say.

This is also why I dont want to believe that shane diesel is 8 inches bone pressed. He bottoms out all his girls with balls deep penetration no matter the position and the girls don't complain, they all take it nicely. But I've had instances when girls complain of a deep penetration with my 7.5 incher.
 
huge-girth;679459 said:
This is also why I dont want to believe that shane diesel is 8 inches bone pressed. He bottoms out all his girls with balls deep penetration no matter the position and the girls don't complain, they all take it nicely. But I've had instances when girls complain of a deep penetration with my 7.5 incher.

7.5BPEL sick.. n we get damn bigger everyday :):cool:
 
huge-girth;679459 said:
He bottoms out all his girls with balls deep penetration no matter the position and the girls don't complain, they all take it nicely. But I've had instances when girls complain of a deep penetration with my 7.5 incher.

That's a good point and I must say that bottoming out in all positions is enjoyable for the pounding slaps and also the grinds.

Are any of you guys with monster cocks still able to get the slapping action happening or is that simply off the table in most cases?
 
She actually said that after the banging and I didn't do a girth session before the sex. If I had done a girth session and give her my 6.5 inches mid shaft and 7 inches base girth, she wouldn't have said that. My fatpad might be another reason why she said I'm average.

If I go for the 8 inches none bone pressed, I'm afraid I will not be able to go balls deep.

Will my fat pad stop me from getting to 9 inches bone pressed? No longer my goal though because if I get to 8 inches bone pressed and 7 inches girth, no woman in this world will call me average.
 
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johnny-wang;679510 said:
Yup what I've been trying to say. . . Anything below 8" nbpel is AVERAGE!

I guess there are only 5-10 non average pornstars then, given how few are at or above 8" NBPEL. No offense, but although I do find it hard to believe the studies that put average around 5.1-5.8" BPEL, there is no way 8" NPBEL is average, unless it is measured in Internet or woman inches (where 15" penises are fairly common place).
 
Phoenix7672;679526 said:
I guess there are only 5-10 non average pornstars then, given how few are at or above 8" NBPEL. No offense, but although I do find it hard to believe the studies that put average around 5.1-5.8" BPEL, there is no way 8" NPBEL is average, unless it is measured in Internet or woman inches (where 15" penises are fairly common place).

I am still trying to understand the whole pornstar reference. Are they suppose to be the yardstick for penis measurement?
If your reference was with the intent of pointing out how they can still give female counterparts ( also pornstars) "orgasms" almost at will, then let me point out 2 things to you:
1, Pornstars have huge girth!
2, They are PROFESSIONAL actors. . . . Don't believe everything you see in movies.

I agree the percentage of guys with 8" and > nbpel is significantly small compared to population, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the standards should be compromised or adjusted to suit statistical figures. What is long is long and what isn't just isn't. . .
This coming from a guy with 7.5 -7.7" nbpel
 
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I am personally obsessed with gaining length, but even despite that I will say length is for the most part just for show. You can do more positions with a longer cock, but I'm not sure being long adds nearly as much pleasure to sex for a woman as being thick does.

6 x 6 beats 7.5 x 5. That's just my opinion though.
 
Does length make a difference in bed ? Yes it does , up to a certain point .

Here are my opinions from my personal sex life . If my partner is very horny , her vagina will stretch and have max. 19 cm ( 7.5 in ) in length . I manage to realize it because if I push it and I touch her end , I have 3 - 3.5 fingers left outside her vagina in length untill I touch my pubic area . She told me that I touch some spots that she never knew she had them . Talking about girth , I think too much will make her bleed . Girth matters for some girls because a thick penis will push at the same time on the all spots inside the vagina . I am at 15 cm ( 5.9 in ) . She told me that it's enough and sometimes her maxillary hurts from blowjobs .

As I said .. There are girls who prefer length over girth and vice versa . But at the end of the day , all that matters is how happy you are with your package . Ofcourse it's important to satisfy your partener but if you are not happy and you don't have enough confidence with your package , sex is not that enjoyable .
 
Shinto Kayden;679691 said:
Does length make a difference in bed ? Yes it does , up to a certain point .

Here are my opinions from my personal sex life . If my partner is very horny , her vagina will stretch and have max. 19 cm ( 7.5 in ) in length . I manage to realize it because if I push it and I touch her end , I have 3 - 3.5 fingers left outside her vagina in length untill I touch my pubic area . She told me that I touch some spots that she never knew she had them . Talking about girth , I think too much will make her bleed . Girth matters for some girls because a thick penis will push at the same time on the all spots inside the vagina . I am at 15 cm ( 5.9 in ) . She told me that it's enough and sometimes her maxillary hurts from blowjobs .

As I said .. There are girls who prefer length over girth and vice versa . But at the end of the day , all that matters is how happy you are with your package . Ofcourse it's important to satisfy your partener but if you are not happy and you don't have enough confidence with your package , sex is not that enjoyable .

yeah true being unhappy whit our size can be a total nightmare,im not that short anymore but i still want more both sides girth n lenght...n yeah not having enough confidence whit the package is a fucking terrible experience..

im for days away from my measurement day n i do really want to get good news... i know that i still have a long way to go but n i will continue:) by the way i was wondering if YOU could share the routines you have been doing almost since the day one the day you started as a PEer..i would like to check n see a few things. THANKS:)
 
I would say it depends on how you use it. I'm 7.25 NBPEL and 4.5-4.75" in girth. I can make my girl come 90% of the time we have sex sometimes making her cum 3 times in one session. We haven't got into the discussion about size yet but she says it all depends on her mood. Though after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] session with my girth getting as thick as 5.5", I can only imagine that my dick would satisfy her even more. (Haven't tried it because I don't want her to feel me that thick and then revert back to my normal girth size after, I think it would be a terrible idea that would only lead to her being unsatisfied at my normal girth.) Anyways my final thoughts are I think you got something good with a that 5.9" of girth... I wish we could trade 0.5" of my length for 0.5" of your girth, for the time being at least ;).
 
johnny-wang;679533 said:
I am still trying to understand the whole pornstar reference. Are they suppose to be the yardstick for penis measurement?
If your reference was with the intent of pointing out how they can still give female counterparts ( also pornstars) "orgasms" almost at will, then let me point out 2 things to you:
1, Pornstars have huge girth!
2, They are PROFESSIONAL actors. . . . Don't believe everything you see in movies.

I agree the percentage of guys with 8" and > nbpel is significantly small compared to population, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the standards should be compromised or adjusted to suit statistical figures. What is long is long and what isn't just isn't. . .
This coming from a guy with 7.5 -7.7" nbpel

My point is your comment that 8" NBPEL is average is just plain wrong...that's like saying the average height a male is 6'8" when it clearly is not.
 
Phoenix7672;679760 said:
My point is your comment that 8" NBPEL is average is just plain wrong...that's like saying the average height a male is 6'8" when it clearly is not.

I think you misunderstood me. I said anything below 8" NBPEL is average.
 
What average is that the U.S. Average? That ones around six inches, but the world average idk what it is maybe everybody does have donkey dicks out there :P
 
I don't care what anyone says the way i see it there are a whole lot of guys with 7.5 - 7.7 inchers and IMHO that's well in the range of Average.
7.8 - 7.9 can be approximated to 8" so they don't count in this.
 
johnny-wang;679772 said:
I don't care what anyone says the way i see it there are a whole lot of guys with 7.5 - 7.7 inchers and IMHO that's well in the range of Average.
7.8 - 7.9 can be approximated to 8" so they don't count in this.

I sort of agree, but not exactly. The way I interpret Johhny's comment is that anything under 8 NBPEL SEEMS average to most girls. I agree with that statement, because I am between 7-7.5 and I don't believe I'm in the big category just yet.

But strictly speaking not everything below 8 NBPEL is average. 7 inches NBPEL is already considered somewhat long if you compare it to most men.
 
runningignus;679406 said:
Depends on the woman. That's all really.

Perfect response!

The depth of the vagina before hitting the cervix can be anywhere from 4" to 8" (even deeper in some). Hitting the cervix is not pleasurable for women but getting around the cervix is extremely pleasurable This can be accomplished through various sexual positions. My Wife was very shallow, maybe 4-5" so sex was painful and at the time I knew nothing about getting around the cervix. Jen, a later girlfriend, had a depth of about 8". I could tell this as when we first started dating I was 6.5" and I never hit her cervix but when I got into the 8" area I started to hit it. At 9" I was able to get around the cervix and hit the sweet spot that brings multiple, squirting orgasms.
 
boohoohoo;679774 said:
I sort of agree, but not exactly. The way I interpret Johhny's comment is that anything under 8 NBPEL SEEMS average to most girls. I agree with that statement, because I am between 7-7.5 and I don't believe I'm in the big category just yet.

But strictly speaking not everything below 8 NBPEL is average. 7 inches NBPEL is already considered somewhat long if you compare it to most men.

As for me I am average until I get to 8.5 bone pressed and cement it.
 
huge-girth;679439 said:
Morethanluck, you are 100% correct. I'm currently 7.5 bone pressed erect and my girth is 5.6. After my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session, I expand to 6.5 mid girth and 7 inches at the base. Girls who normally take me balls deep from doggy style find it difficult if I have sex with them after my girth session.

You get a full inch worth of expansion, dang man, what's your pumping routine look like?

I'm more of a girth person when it comes to PE which is why I'm concentrating on length until I get to my length goal. I do 10 X 3 with 5 mins of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] in between sets.
 
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JakeM82;679799 said:
You get a full inch worth of expansion, dang man, what's your pumping routine look like?

I'm more of a girth person when it comes to PE which is why I'm concentrating on length until I get to my length goal. I do 10 X 3 with 5 mins of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] in between sets.

Did you reply inside my actual post?

Yes I did but honestly I don't know how it happened. I'm using my phone.
 
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theman6;681971 said:
So than would 6x6 be as pleasurable as 7x5.5

This is something that will be different to every woman you encounter. Some will prefer bigger some smaller but on average most women see 7 x 5.5 as ideal.
 
runningignus;679406 said:
Depends on the woman. That's all really.

Length is great for getting in there deep and girth is great for spreading the pussy open. Woman prefer girth over length but having both is best. Makes them go nuts.

That takes us to the magical 9 X 7
 
huge-girth;758686 said:
That takes us to the magical 9 X 7

9 x 7 is the monster masher! Every woman will remember a monster like that!
 
First, idk what jonny was smoking, but 8'' nbel equates to 8.5-9'' bpel, which is heading into the huge territory, his statement about being below is ''average'' is dumb. Anyone who was ''Average'' and then slept with the same chicks after gaining size ( such as my self) can tell you woman notice .5 to an inch increases more than you think.


These debates are hilarious and ridiculous. Of course length matters, Big time! Something alot of guys forget is Tits... what purpose do they serve sexually, nothing! (and besides signifying some evolutionary shit)
But the reality is tits, a thicc ass, are all psychological pleasures that rival, if not flat out beat the physical at times. And women are more cerebral than men.
Think about it, if you banged some flat as a board chick with a super tight pussy vs. your perfect idea of what tits and an ass should look like, and all the bouncing and smacking, but she has a regular tightness... you're probably going to bust a nut faster with the mint ass big tity chick.
Same thing if not more true for girls, seeing a long dick (as well as thick) but a long enough dick that cant fit all the way in is HUUUGE turn on, to the point where the actual thought can send her into orgasm quite easily while fucking.
 
jekyllnhyde360;758761 said:
First, idk what jonny was smoking, but 8'' nbel equates to 8.5-9'' bpel, which is heading into the huge territory, his statement about being below is ''average'' is dumb. Anyone who was ''Average'' and then slept with the same chicks after gaining size ( such as my self) can tell you woman notice .5 to an inch increases more than you think.


These debates are hilarious and ridiculous. Of course length matters, Big time! Something alot of guys forget is Tits... what purpose do they serve sexually, nothing! (and besides signifying some evolutionary shit)
But the reality is tits, a thicc ass, are all psychological pleasures that rival, if not flat out beat the physical at times. And women are more cerebral than men.
Think about it, if you banged some flat as a board chick with a super tight pussy vs. your perfect idea of what tits and an ass should look like, and all the bouncing and smacking, but she has a regular tightness... you're probably going to bust a nut faster with the mint ass big tity chick.
Same thing if not more true for girls, seeing a long dick (as well as thick) but a long enough dick that cant fit all the way in is HUUUGE turn on, to the point where the actual thought can send her into orgasm quite easily while fucking.

Great observation. I also found that I fall in love with things I did not love before because of the woman I am dating. I love big boobs but there is a girl I knew that made me love flat girls. This has happened in many areas. Love is a strong emotion and can turn something we do not like into something we adore.
 
I never had any size complaints before PE. My wife has been the only one to reap the benefits of my PE. What I've noticed with her is that the extra length I've added gives her more pleasure. Nights we've had sex after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session she makes some really deep noises that almost sound like a tiger growling.

I agree with "depends on the woman" more than anything. They're all built differently and all are different during sex. I was watching some show on Viceland and the host was saying she prefers an average size, not large, because she likes to have sex multiple times a day and she can't do that with a large guy. I'm sure she was more referring to girth as you can adjust positions for too long.

Paying attention to what she wants during sex tells her what she likes. If she wants a more full feeling get into a different position. Sometimes my wife wants to put her legs down when I'm on top. They end up closed with me still inside her. She doesn't squeeze them tight but everything does get more snug and we both enjoy it.
 
cladre60;758877 said:
I never had any size complaints before PE. My wife has been the only one to reap the benefits of my PE. What I've noticed with her is that the extra length I've added gives her more pleasure. Nights we've had sex after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session she makes some really deep noises that almost sound like a tiger growling.

I agree with "depends on the woman" more than anything. They're all built differently and all are different during sex. I was watching some show on Viceland and the host was saying she prefers an average size, not large, because she likes to have sex multiple times a day and she can't do that with a large guy. I'm sure she was more referring to girth as you can adjust positions for too long.

Paying attention to what she wants during sex tells her what she likes. If she wants a more full feeling get into a different position. Sometimes my wife wants to put her legs down when I'm on top. They end up closed with me still inside her. She doesn't squeeze them tight but everything does get more snug and we both enjoy it.

probably because the a spot is deep in the pussy, i think its called the upper fornix. gives women tremendous pleasure as long as you dont hammer her cervix.

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doublelongdaddy;758870 said:
Great observation. I also found that I fall in love with things I did not love before because of the woman I am dating. I love big boobs but there is a girl I knew that made me love flat girls. This has happened in many areas. Love is a strong emotion and can turn something we do not like into something we adore.

True, love will turn you on to new stuff.

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doublelongdaddy;758870 said:
Great observation. I also found that I fall in love with things I did not love before because of the woman I am dating. I love big boobs but there is a girl I knew that made me love flat girls. This has happened in many areas. Love is a strong emotion and can turn something we do not like into something we adore.

True, love will turn you on to new stuff.

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doublelongdaddy;758870 said:
Great observation. I also found that I fall in love with things I did not love before because of the woman I am dating. I love big boobs but there is a girl I knew that made me love flat girls. This has happened in many areas. Love is a strong emotion and can turn something we do not like into something we adore.

True, love will turn you on to new stuff.
 
jekyllnhyde360;758882 said:
probably because the a spot is deep in the pussy, i think its called the upper fornix. gives women tremendous pleasure as long as you dont hammer her cervix.

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True, love will turn you on to new stuff.

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True, love will turn you on to new stuff.

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True, love will turn you on to new stuff.

I've managed to hit the anterior and posterior fornix before starting PE. Took some deep grinding and the right positioning. We weren't aiming for it, it just happened. Easier to hit with more length though.
 
cladre60;758887 said:
I've managed to hit the anterior and posterior fornix before starting PE. Took some deep grinding and the right positioning. We weren't aiming for it, it just happened. Easier to hit with more length though.

i hit it now at 7'' bpel with some women pretty easily, others not unless i lift their legs up. But when either way it's pretty remarkable the type of sounds and orgasm it gives woman, in comparison to g-spot or clitoral.
 
jekyllnhyde360;758927 said:
i hit it now at 7'' bpel with some women pretty easily, others not unless i lift their legs up. But when either way it's pretty remarkable the type of sounds and orgasm it gives woman, in comparison to g-spot or clitoral.

The 1 time I hit the posterior it was like 2 legos clicking together when the head popped in there. Instant orgasm from both of us lol.
 
Man I have managed to hit everything, I have gone way beyond the cervix to the magical land of the cup de sac, I place where a woman will gush an orgasm!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;759009 said:
shit, DLD could perform The Heimlich maneuver on her

If he went in the rear he'd cause bulimia.

And as far as the size goes even guys suck at looking and estimating. A gay friend of mine has probably seen 1k penises (and touched well over half of them) and he says a good size starts at 7-8" and thinks 6-7" is average. So he's also a horrible judge of size or gay men are all carrying baseball bats between their legs.
 
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