Hello
I've just started getting into PE and have been at it for a month now with a routine of using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and stretching plus jelqing. I've noticed it recently as my time using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] has increased to 15 minutes per session that I would get a "donut" / swelling from water at the area below my glans and above the circumcision scar ring. It's becomes more prominent once I'm flaccid and it looks odd. Reminds me kind of like the clitellum of an earthworm which isn't the most attractive comparison. It goes away and returns to normal after a few hours though. Is this something that I should be worried about? Will repeated and continued usage causing this state cause permanent deformities down the line?
Thank you
 
I dont think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is supposed to change or deform your penis man,are you feeling any pain in your penis,i would continue,specially if you have noticed gains..
 
No pain. It just looks odd for a bit.
Apparently people new to PE are suppose to see quick 1 inch gains, at least according to what I've read but I haven't noticed anything like that. I do think I have gained a bit. Hopefully I have and I just haven't been measuring wrong. I do plan on continuing and also getting a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to incorporate into my PE.
 
Ok bro the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is just a device that can help you to get gains easier maybe if follow a routine you can get quicker gains, you joined in Dec 2014 you have been into this for a very short period of time,besides gaining an inch can take more than a month...maybe you already know about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words],dont you? check the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine too if you did not:)
 
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Use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] routine found in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread. 15 minutes of pumping will always bring water retention. The best way to pump is like this:

5 Minutes of Pumping
5 Minutes of Jelqing

5 Minutes of Pumping
5 Minutes of Jelqing

5 Minutes of Pumping
5 Minutes of Jelqing

This method will greatly reduce water retention while bring incredible tissue expansion.
 
Brother, take it easy, you're new in this, everything is gonna be just fine, your penis needs time to adjust to the pump, donut effect is only temporary thing, stick to jelqing and pumping and you'll be ok soon! Peace
 
Perestroyka;632484 said:
Brother, take it easy, you're new in this, everything is gonna be just fine, your penis needs time to adjust to the pump, donut effect is only temporary thing, stick to jelqing and pumping and you'll be ok soon! Peace

great post, very supportive.
 
doublelongdaddy;632481 said:
Use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] routine found in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread. 15 minutes of pumping will always bring water retention. The best way to pump is like this:

5 Minutes of Pumping
5 Minutes of Jelqing

5 Minutes of Pumping
5 Minutes of Jelqing

5 Minutes of Pumping
5 Minutes of Jelqing

This method will greatly reduce water retention while bring incredible tissue expansion.

Totally best way for quick results, I have ZERO experience with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], but I see through posts of guys who using the pump this method gives them great results.
 
Just adding from my own experience:

When you are starting, it is really wise to follow the 5x5x3 program or otherwise pump for shorter amount of time as guided.
I also got the big doughnut effect, which is also called fluid retention. If it subsides after few hours or so, good, but one should aim for tissue build and blood engorgement.

So, start with shorter sets, let your penis get used to the work out. Later on you can intensify your program as time passes and you feel need for more power.

I did also get the big doughnut effect in the beginning, but nowadays not anymore. Of course I could push the limit and get it, but as said, it's better to get real expansion than silly floppy soft fluid retention.
Stay consistent with your program, believe in growing and you shall see progress!
 
i have been trying the 5x5x3 yesterday and havent felt anything important,got to exercise whit the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today and see how it works:)
 
shortdick;632538 said:
i have been trying the 5x5x3 yesterday and havent felt anything important,got to exercise whit the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today and see how it works:)

How did you do the 5x5x3 without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]?
 
isaTiger;632728 said:
I'll try that out, thank you!
It's going to increase shower time but I guess others are just going to have to deal with it.

Keep working 5x5x3 and you'll see what will happen, massive gains in no time, believe me bro :)
 
shortdick;632767 said:
I do now i have to get the huge cock off my head and place it 7 inches below belly button hahah

now you're in the right real estate!
 
Ive had that problem with the "donut" look, and it went away after a few hours. I purchased the comfort pads from bathmatedirect.com and ever since using them, it seems like the fluid retention doesn't happen as much. I used my pump the other day for the first time in a week and little fluid retention.

I highly recommend the cushion rings as they keep my balls from getting sucked into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
 
shortdick;632767 said:
I do now i have to get the huge cock off my head and place it 7 inches below belly button hahah

This made me laugh so hard people were looking at me 😂😂😂 Thanks shorty, you put a massive smile on my face 😆
 
Krt919;632910 said:
Ive had that problem with the "donut" look, and it went away after a few hours. I purchased the comfort pads from bathmatedirect.com and ever since using them, it seems like the fluid retention doesn't happen as much. I used my pump the other day for the first time in a week and little fluid retention.

I highly recommend the cushion rings as they keep my balls from getting sucked into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

doing shorter sets and working in jelqing between those steps will completely eliminate the donut effect. check out the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread and you can learn exactly how to do this.
 
I am currently doing 600 jelqs (with Vaseline) then 15 minutes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I get the donut effect but it doesn't bother me....as long as the donut doesn't effect my gains. DLD should I stick with my current program?
 
deepsctick;634041 said:
I am currently doing 600 jelqs (with Vaseline) then 15 minutes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I get the donut effect but it doesn't bother me....as long as the donut doesn't effect my gains. DLD should I stick with my current program?

it is best to go 5 minutes in the pump and then 5 minutes doing the jelq then repeat 3 times. This will keep the swelling down and will give excellent tissue expansion.
 
So I should continue doing my 600 jelqs but when using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I should only go for 5 mins then jelq for 5 mins and repeat 3x?
 
deepsctick;634156 said:
So I should continue doing my 600 jelqs but when using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I should only go for 5 mins then jelq for 5 mins and repeat 3x?

Yes, that's part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine, maximum tissue expansion with minimal fluid retention.
 
I get that water retention is not aesthetically pleasing but besides that what is the importance of avoiding? I guess because it doesn't bother me I am just wondering if it is dangerous or affecting my gains.
 
I dont like it homes I read that all that inflammation in one sitting produces waste in water, and i dont know what else plus its not even real expansion so you're post measures are thrown off. Just do it like dad bro it doesn't hurt could even help.

Have you seen what it looks like when chicks pump fukin gross. They do the whole vaj or the clit by itself, biches ain't right friend being fukin weird
 
haha yes Ive seen some gross stuff like women who "rosebud" its nasty. The whole reason I ask about the 5x5 is because I already have an hour invested in stretching and jelqing session then to add the 5x5 to my already 15 min shower is like 2 hours....just seems ridiculus. Seems I would be better off avoiding going over 15 minuts of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and not pumping to full pressure. Ive been jelqing for 3 weeks and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for 2 and already noticed some gains. I keep my jelqing and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] a secret from my live in girlfriend and the last few times we banged she was noticeably more into it and even mentioned how it hurt but in a good way. And ive been with her for 6 yrs and she has never said "it hurt" before. So Im excited to sy the least. Just trying to find something that works for me you know
 
deepsctick;634192 said:
I get that water retention is not aesthetically pleasing but besides that what is the importance of avoiding? I guess because it doesn't bother me I am just wondering if it is dangerous or affecting my gains.

I feel that fluid retention can bloat the skin a bit too much. And for me having the doughnut effect, it actually hurt a bit sliding my foreskin. Don't know if you're cut or not.
In all understanding, the fluid retention is like a "blister." You don't blisters, do you? I've had a few from walking long distance etc., and they're not nice.
So I'll definitely avoid fluid retention. All in all, I think for gains it is better to avoid the fluid retention. You have one penis, don't risk it!
 
Tkto I ttold you it was nasty. retention doesn't scare me because I have kidney disease and have been on dialysis for years prior to getting a transplant in 2012 and when your kidneys don't work you cant pee which is why you do dialysis to remove excess water and toxins. When I was on dialysis Ive seen my penis filled with fluid until it was purple and lumpy all over. No doctor was ever concerned and it always went away once I got to dialysis. The retention [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] gives me is a tiny bit right around the bottom of my glands. So to me personally it doesn't look bad or feel bad. I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today and I went a little easier and didn't get any retention.
 
deepsctick;634209 said:
Tkto I ttold you it was nasty. retention doesn't scare me because I have kidney disease and have been on dialysis for years prior to getting a transplant in 2012 and when your kidneys don't work you cant pee which is why you do dialysis to remove excess water and toxins. When I was on dialysis Ive seen my penis filled with fluid until it was purple and lumpy all over. No doctor was ever concerned and it always went away once I got to dialysis. The retention [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] gives me is a tiny bit right around the bottom of my glands. So to me personally it doesn't look bad or feel bad. I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today and I went a little easier and didn't get any retention.

So great you are a healthy man now,and looking for gains:)
 
Yea healthier than before still have to take strong meds though which have too many side effects to list. But the ole' weiner is working perfectly these days, which is great. Having more sex in a week than I use to have in a year.
 
I have literally seen no difference in the amount of fluid retention in 5x5x3 vs one giant set. It's actually worse when I have done traditional jelqs in place of SSJs. I'm going to at the very least try to not completely take a shit on what others have said; however I think there is too much emphasis put on how to prevent fluid retention in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], but one thing that I have found to work for me in combating the donut is:

Heat, before and after. Don't skip this. Heat pad, rice sock whatever you got. Cold dick plus crazy pressure equals big donut. Lots of heat. 10-20 min after is a great post workout routine. It will bring healing factors and proteins that are less present in the fluid that is already there.

Massage. Post workout and more importantly post ejaculation, your dick is super sensitive and in a pretty beat up state. Let's face it, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is a pretty traumatic place for the penis. So, after you have your penis nice and hot, grab the lotion and get to work giving yourself at least 5 min of deep tissue massage, paying close attention to trouble spots ie the donut. One can actually work much of the fluid out of the penis and back in to the lymph system with these two techniques.

If post workout ejaculation is not part of your routine you are at an even better position to give yourself an erect massage, which can be very helpful since you can push the superficial fluid against the erectile tissue in it's fully expanded state.
 
BornInFigi;634265 said:
I have literally seen no difference in the amount of fluid retention in 5x5x3 vs one giant set. It's actually worse when I have done traditional jelqs in place of SSJs. I'm going to at the very least try to not completely take a shit on what others have said; however I think there is too much emphasis put on how to prevent fluid retention in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], but one thing that I have found to work for me in combating the donut is:

Heat, before and after. Don't skip this. Heat pad, rice sock whatever you got. Cold dick plus crazy pressure equals big donut. Lots of heat. 10-20 min after is a great post workout routine. It will bring healing factors and proteins that are less present in the fluid that is already there.

Massage. Post workout and more importantly post ejaculation, your dick is super sensitive and in a pretty beat up state. Let's face it, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is a pretty traumatic place for the penis. So, after you have your penis nice and hot, grab the lotion and get to work giving yourself at least 5 min of deep tissue massage, paying close attention to trouble spots ie the donut. One can actually work much of the fluid out of the penis and back in to the lymph system with these two techniques.

If post workout ejaculation is not part of your routine you are at an even better position to give yourself an erect massage, which can be very helpful since you can push the superficial fluid against the erectile tissue in it's fully expanded state.


Everyone is different and no one remedy will work for every man. I like you advice and approach, it brings another option to men who are having fluid retention issues.
 
doublelongdaddy;634308 said:
Everyone is different and no one remedy will work for every man. I like you advice and approach, it brings another option to men who are having fluid retention issues.

Exactly. I just hope that others can still make gains and continue to PE in the face of such circumstances. Sucks getting played that hand.
 
BornInFigi;634361 said:
Exactly. I just hope that others can still make gains and continue to PE in the face of such circumstances. Sucks getting played that hand.

The wonderful thing about the Brotherhood is there are so many men I can exploitgiving every man many options to buy my merchandise.
 
doublelongdaddy;634516 said:
The wonderful thing about the Brotherhood is there are many methods of accomplishing the same thing giving every man many options.

Exactly. I think many people can't push through these instilled ideas like if I donut I can't pump or I can't do this because this happens. We just need to find workarounds for our individual issues.
 
Hi all.
isaTiger, how is the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] experience coming along? Although I'm "officially" new to the forum (been lurking for quite some time), I'd just like to share my experience with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. As many have already claimed, your just starting out. Initially, I was getting "the donut" effect as well. While not painful, I can understand the panic when your member looks like a rattle. I gradually increased my time with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and Voila! No more "donuts" or rattles. Anyhow, hope things are going great. I'm finally going to purchase the Size [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] to supplement my PE adventure. Good luck!
 
ADz650;634634 said:
Hi all.
isaTiger, how is the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] experience coming along? Although I'm "officially" new to the forum (been lurking for quite some time), I'd just like to share my experience with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. As many have already claimed, your just starting out. Initially, I was getting "the donut" effect as well. While not painful, I can understand the panic when your member looks like a rattle. I gradually increased my time with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and Voila! No more "donuts" or rattles. Anyhow, hope things are going great. I'm finally going to purchase the Size [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] to supplement my PE adventure. Good luck!

Good to have you and I am looking forward to your participation, you sound like you know your PE! Welcome to the Brotherhood!
 
ADz650;634634 said:
Hi all.
isaTiger, how is the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] experience coming along? Although I'm "officially" new to the forum (been lurking for quite some time), I'd just like to share my experience with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. As many have already claimed, your just starting out. Initially, I was getting "the donut" effect as well. While not painful, I can understand the panic when your member looks like a rattle. I gradually increased my time with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and Voila! No more "donuts" or rattles. Anyhow, hope things are going great. I'm finally going to purchase the Size [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] to supplement my PE adventure. Good luck!

Yeah buddy. Way to hit the time over tension train.
 
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