Hi Guys,

Ive been doing a lot of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Harcore Hanging and Streches latelty and I really like the imediate increase in EL I get with theese, usually around 0.3-0.4" after a Hanging sesion and I know that it's done to my penis being pulled out from inside my body as I feel new tissue I have never felt before when I grab the base to jelq(I go directlly into jelqing after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Hanging) with nerves and tissue that I never touched before. I'ts a very wierd feeling. However the temporary increase in EL goes away after 30mins or so.

I think that if we can trap the penis in this expressed state right after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Streching session we can keep the penis from retracting back inside the body witch will bring blazing fast gains, however I have no ideea on how to do that, the only ideea I got was to use attach the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] as deep into the base as possible to grap the fully streched penis like a vise at the end of the workout to restrain it from retracting.

I hope master DLD has a good ideea on this one.

~Blue.
 
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Blueballs;607814 said:
Hi Guys,

Ive been doing a lot of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Harcore Hanging and Streches latelty and I really like the imediate increase in EL I get with theese, usually around 0.3-0.4" after a Hanging sesion and I know that it's done to my penis being pulled out from inside my body as I feel new tissue I have never felt before when I grab the base to jelq(I go directlly into jelqing after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Hanging) with nerves and tissue that I never touched before. I'ts a very wierd feeling. However the temporary increase in EL goes away after 30mins or so.

I think that if we can trap the penis in this expressed state right after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Streching session we can keep the penis from retracting back inside the body witch will bring blazing fast gains, however I have no ideea on how to do that, the only ideea I got was to use attach the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] as deep into the base as possible to grap the fully streched penis like a vise at the end of the workout to restrain it from retracting.

I hope master DLD has a good ideea on this one.

~Blue.

Our new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] will allow for low point attachment that will allow for an expressive stretch throughout the day. You could simulate this by attaching your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] at a very low point, removing most bars and attaching low allowing the upper part of the penis to be free. This makes sense in my head but I will need to try it to be sure, but it sounds good on paper.
 
Sorry to go off topic, but how long do you do the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] stretches for? I just do a little bit at the end of my pump sessions and it leaves me with a nice EL, but not a whole .4" bigger. That's awesome.
 
I do 2-3 sets of Hanging with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], see this thread on more info: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...mp-forum/84353-bathmate-hardcore-hanging.html

I used to get a nice lenght increase by doing them manually but I did not measure back then, i think it was around 0.2". However as I said theese gains only last for about 20mins just as the temp Girth expansion you get from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] as the penis retracts back into the body.

~Blue.
 
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I did not get to try the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] at a lower grip point last night, did you try it yet Blue?
 
Yeah, I did but it dosen't seem to work.... first off I don't feel any strech at all and seccond the velcro slides along the shaft since there's nothing to stop it(I think that the glans acts as a ledge for all theese attachments to grip on) and third as you can see from the purple color of my upper shaft in the image this cuts circulation big time :(

I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is the only alternative.

~Blue.
 
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Damn, that stinks, in theory it made so much sense in my head:) Theory:)
 
I already figure out a way for an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] stretcher... I will be sharing next month. :-)
 
I think the best solution for an ADXS is to keep the penis in a rolled position like in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] rols, in this way it will not retract back in the body.

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;608052 said:
Yeah, I did but it dosen't seem to work.... first off I don't feel any strech at all and seccond the velcro slides along the shaft since there's nothing to stop it(I think that the glans acts as a ledge for all theese attachments to grip on) and third as you can see from the purple color of my upper shaft in the image this cuts circulation big time :(

I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is the only alternative.

~Blue.

doublelongdaddy;608073 said:
Damn, that stinks, in theory it made so much sense in my head:) Theory:)

i've done this before...i'll make a quick vid for it shortly

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tbone350;608086 said:
I already figure out a way for an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] stretcher... I will be sharing next month. :-)

looking forward to that
 
Blueballs;608052 said:
Yeah, I did but it dosen't seem to work.... first off I don't feel any strech at all and seccond the velcro slides along the shaft since there's nothing to stop it(I think that the glans acts as a ledge for all theese attachments to grip on) and third as you can see from the purple color of my upper shaft in the image this cuts circulation big time :(

I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is the only alternative.


~Blue.

doublelongdaddy;608073 said:
Damn, that stinks, in theory it made so much sense in my head:) Theory:)


[jw]76[/jw]
 
Maybe you'll get the chance to shot a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] video, thowse guys are starving for a video in the newbie forum :)

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;608107 said:
Maybe you'll get the chance to shot a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] video, thowse guys are starving for a video in the newbie forum :)

~Blue.

Great suggestion
 
youknowme123321;608106 said:
[jw]76[/jw]

That is definitely doing the job, great video and I am glad my theory did pan out:)
 
youknowme123321;608551 said:
so since your theory panned out...do we just call it science now? instead of theory? lol



Theory becomes law when it is proven. I think we can say that Expressive Stretching is law because it has produced gains in the men who have used it. What you have accomplished is applying the law to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
 
doublelongdaddy;608703 said:
Theory becomes law when it is proven. I think we can say that Expressive Stretching is law because it has produced gains in the men who have used it. What you have accomplished is applying the law to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

It would take a large amount of men to gain with strictly expressive stretching to have it be considered scientific law. Plenty of shit that's been proven is still considered theory, such as evolution.
 
dmoney101;608904 said:
It would take a large amount of men to gain with strictly expressive stretching to have it be considered scientific law. Plenty of shit that's been proven is still considered theory, such as evolution.

true statement...professor. here's a thought...at the point of something being proven and still calling it theory, such as evolution, it's only people with beliefs contrary to evolution that would claim it is just a theory. where as i fully believe in evolution i would not consider it a theory.
 
Tecato evolve everyday. Like dld evolved PE into something intricate, and dld himself is much more complex so who came up with him?

insight he's collected is enough for me to to accept his "law" or what changes he makes to it.


I've been doin tons of flaccid base stretching and I know I'm longer just by feel. My right ligament is sore as hell though and I'm afraid to damage it. I'm just gonna avoid downward stretching a bit until someone gives their advise
 
dmoney101;608914 said:
Until it's proven without any doubt it's still just a theory.

I don't have any doubt.

and neither does the priest who lived across the street from me growing up about his beliefs. although in church he did talk about having doubts about his religion and faith at times in his life.

what a jumble
 
Another method of getting an expressive stretch in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] is using a fulcrum at the base of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] while being completely extended. What I do is use a 1" piece of PVC pipe that I weave between the bars at the very base of the penis on the top side. This completely exposes inner penis while remaining fully extended.

Definitions of Law and Theory

Theory

Scientific Law
 
The hidden penis (inside the body) is much more then what we see with the external, and its encouraging that to grow outwards. Not many exercises exist for this period, and DLD had expressive stretches, and BTB jelqing (behind the balls) or what one user coined expressive jelqs

I'm going to be taking a special interest in the internal penile enhancement, along with the head + coronal ridge specialties I now enjoy to work on. I have succeeded in the latter, and as said several times on the forums, will soon make a thread with pix and the exercise.

More work to be done on the internal side of things, its trickier as we cant see it, and often cant grasp it.

I'm sure that the likes of Mandingo and that other very large black guy nowadays (cant remember his name) have stretched out more inner penis, because of how the balls seem to have moved a few inches down the shaft, which you can see on shots where they are squatting over a lass, better if you see a shot from their ass side.
 
The hidden penis (inside the body) is much more then what we see with the external, and its encouraging that to grow outwards. Not many exercises exist for this period, and DLD had expressive stretches, and BTB jelqing (behind the balls) or what one user coined expressive jelqs

I'm going to be taking a special interest in the internal penile enhancement, along with the head + coronal ridge specialties I now enjoy to work on. I have succeeded in the latter, and as said several times on the forums, will soon make a thread with pix and the exercise.

More work to be done on the internal side of things, its trickier as we cant see it, and often cant grasp it.

I'm sure that the likes of Mandingo and that other very large black guy nowadays (cant remember his name) have stretched out more inner penis, because of how the balls seem to have moved a few inches down the shaft, which you can see on shots where they are squatting over a lass, better if you see a shot from their ass side.

You are very correct. Mandingo did some PE for sure.
 
You are very correct. Mandingo did some PE for sure.

I invented expressive stretching because of Mandingo. When I saw how much internal penis see ad made external I knew there was someway to do it. So today we have expressive stretching that does exactly what I wanted it to do.
 
I invented expressive stretching because of Mandingo. When I saw how much internal penis see ad made external I knew there was someway to do it. So today we have expressive stretching that does exactly what I wanted it to do.


I'm now doing expressive stretches on a daily basis. I need to get to 9 inches and switch over to girth. I'm anticipating to do girth work.
 
Any of our extenders can be gripped at the base of the penis making it a express of device. I like the new SizeDoctor As it seems expressive stretching would be much more successful with the reversed Design of the SizeDoctor.
 
Express of stretching is any kind of stretching were you grew up at the base of the penis. I called Expressive because it expresses internal penis to become real outward penis.
 
Express of stretching is any kind of stretching were you grew up at the base of the penis. I called Expressive because it expresses internal penis to become real outward penis.


I'm curious to see the result of my mandingo stretch in the next 3 months.
 
I'm curious to see the result of my mandingo stretch in the next 3 months.

They are definitely in an expressive stretch so you should see really good gains from the base of your penis out word. When internal pain this becomes external usually thickens at the base And becomes more symmetrical the more you train.
 
They are definitely in an expressive stretch so you should see really good gains from the base of your penis out word. When internal pain this becomes external usually thickens at the base And becomes more symmetrical the more you train.

Yes i agree. My base is thicker than before now.
 
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The base thickens in two ways either heavy downward stretching or expressive stretching. When using either method base girth comes so fast and I mean within a few weeks. As you gain more length from the base the thicker girth will become more uniform with the shaft girth as new gains arrive.
 
how much inches can you gain potentially from expressive stretching the internal penis?
It’s difficult to say exactly how much somebody will gain but I can tell you that expressive stretching is one part of the gaining process. Expressive stretching is pulling internal penis outside of the body. If you trace your inner penis back to your sphincter you’ll see there’s inches of inner length. Not all of this for the accessible but certain degree is and you should take it avantage of making gains from this point of you.

But you need to consider there also other areas of gain that need to be approached being tunica, ligament and the shaft. To get a better understanding of this read through the SRT thread.
 
The base thickens in two ways either heavy downward stretching or expressive stretching. When using either method base girth comes so fast and I mean within a few weeks. As you gain more length from the base the thicker girth will become more uniform with the shaft girth as new gains arrive.


I'm currently making plans to start working on girth in combination with my length master. I'm looking at 1st of January as the ideal time to start doing both length and girth exercises on same day.

I want my gains to come quickly in 2019, as a matter of fact, i regret not working on girth and length on same day.
 
I noticed tonight how much temporary girth expansion I got from LM bundled stretches.

I have been doing Length + Girth together for a few months - it works for me...
 
I noticed tonight how much temporary girth expansion I got from LM bundled stretches.

I have been doing Length + Girth together for a few months - it works for me...


I have once used the length master and bathmate daily for 1 month. I agree when you said you get big temporary expansion after a length master session. It is like that each time you do girth work at night and them use the length master the following morning.

I will start working my way back into combining length and girth exercise on same day. I will start this week so that by January, i would have been well conditioned and hitting good numbers inside the bathmate.
 
I think that the sizedoctor will be the best extender to deal with expressive stretching because of the design and how it works in the opposite way of every other extender. I think this SizeDoctor. could be called expressive doctor! Check out the reverse design to get a better understanding to what I am saying.
 
Hi Guys,

Ive been doing a lot of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Harcore Hanging and Streches latelty and I really like the imediate increase in EL I get with theese, usually around 0.3-0.4" after a Hanging sesion and I know that it's done to my penis being pulled out from inside my body as I feel new tissue I have never felt before when I grab the base to jelq(I go directlly into jelqing after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Hanging) with nerves and tissue that I never touched before. I'ts a very wierd feeling. However the temporary increase in EL goes away after 30mins or so.

I think that if we can trap the penis in this expressed state right after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] Streching session we can keep the penis from retracting back inside the body witch will bring blazing fast gains, however I have no ideea on how to do that, the only ideea I got was to use attach the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] as deep into the base as possible to grap the fully streched penis like a vise at the end of the workout to restrain it from retracting.

I hope master DLD has a good ideea on this one.

~Blue.

I'm currently using the length master to pull out the inner penis for 20mins daily. I will be doing this for 12 months to see how much inner penis can be pulled out. I'm also doing other length master exercises too for 40mins making my daily session last a total of 1 hour.

I'm also coaching a few people personally and I've made 20mins of expressive stretching an integral part of their routine.

We will see what happens in the next couple of months to come.
 
I'm currently using the length master to pull out the inner penis for 20mins daily. I will be doing this for 12 months to see how much inner penis can be pulled out. I'm also doing other length master exercises too for 40mins making my daily session last a total of 1 hour.

I'm also coaching a few people personally and I've made 20mins of expressive stretching an integral part of their routine.

We will see what happens in the next couple of months to come.
Great coach!
 
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