7 Months lease

RoninTT · Mar 16, 2006

I've been out of the game for a couple of months. On some levels it's been nice because I don't have to think about working out all the time. But I have missed it also. The main reason I haven't been Penis Enlargement'ing is my gf, I've written about this before. The other day I brought it up again because I've been thinking seriously about starting up again. Offcouse she got sad as I knew she would, but after thinking about it for a couple of days she proposed this to me:

If I do it again:
I've got from now until her birthday (about 7 months), then she don't want to hear about it ever again. While I'm doing it she don't want to hear about it. And she don't want me to do any Penis Enlargement while we are together.

If I don't do it:
She will try and support me about my size and help me get better with it.

So now I have a choice to make at the moment I don't really know what to do but I think I'll start up again and try to reach my goal of 8" NBPL.

It's been a couple of days since I wrote that and I now have decided to start Penis Enlargement'ing again. So I'm going only for length this time hoping to reach my goal with in the 7 months my gf have given me.
At the moment I'm doing some basic manuelle stretches and some erect twisted stretches I worked on before I stop last time. I get some good soreness from these two exercises. So at the moment I'll stick to these.

But I would like to hear your input on how you think I can get to my goal in the least time. I know there is no "miracle cure" as I have been doing this for some time. But I would like to hear other peoples ideas.

I'll keep a log in this tread of what I'm doing at the present moment. At the moment I'll try not to measure for a long time. Maybe I'll just wait the seven months and see were I got in that time.

RoninTT · Mar 23, 2006

Been on my routine for almost 2 weeks now, its been hard keeping to it all that time. The big problem is still my gf, but I find 30 min here and 30 min there and get it done. As said before I'm not going to measure until the 7 months are up, but I have noticed that I hang really low sometimes. I hope this is because of my intents stretching.
At the moment I'm doing 3 set of BTC stretches and 3 sets straight up, and then 4-5 A stretches, and off course a 30 sec stretch every time I'm on the toilet. Also I am still trying out my erect twisted stretches, they really add some soreness the ligs on the sides of my dick. I'm really hoping all this will work and that I can keep to it. Maybe at some point I'll start hanging some, but that depends on my schedule.

EVO · Mar 23, 2006

keep it up man!! p.s. if you were to carry on with some pe after her bday and not tell her, shed never know

GrowthSpurts · Mar 24, 2006

EVO said:
keep it up man!! p.s. if you were to carry on with some pe after her bday and not tell her, shed never know

IMHO if your gf is THAT unsupportive of your desire to Penis Enlargement then you have to ask yourself HOW unsupportive will she be of other endeavours you might want to tackle in life. If you wanted to take up bodybuilding or do a rigorous fitness routine - would she back you then? I'd seriously consider if she is just being too narrow-minded about your Penis Enlargement. People in a relationship should be supportive of one another and their goals and dreams and not be giving one another ultimatums!

Just my 2 cents.

TomdW · Mar 24, 2006

I am having trouble believing that you are letting your girlfriend be so damn controlling. To be honest if that were my girlfriend I'd simply say 'I'm going to Penis Enlargement whether you like it or not and if you don't then you can get lost.'. I mean come on, she's allowing you 7 months to Penis Enlargement? Well how kind of her to allow you time out of your life to do something you want. This sounds very much like a pretty negative relationship and if you ask me she seems to have some serious control issues.

I would never let anyone tell me what I can or cannot do with my time, especially when it is something that would help me and is pro active. IMO it's time to be a man and tell her where to get off. Or you could try finding something that she enjoys and is a part of her life that benefits her psychologically and tell her that she can only do it for the next few months. Then watch the tables turn and I bet it'll be totally different when it's in relation to her. Either way I would never try to control anyone like this and IMO anyone that does is not someone that you want to be around. To me it is unbelievable that she would even say this but what's even more unbelievable is that you're going along with it. Fuck, stand up for yourself!

EVO · Mar 24, 2006

ye i agree with above 2 posts. try talking to her seriously about it, explain to her that its something that you want, your dream, your time and ask her what her problem is with it. if she doesnt like you talking about it - easy solution, dont talk to her about it!

RoninTT · Mar 27, 2006

I see all the things that you are saying and don't think that I haven't tried it! The big problem for me is that I really have big feelings for her. She is very insecure and have been all of your relationship. The whole thing has lasted about 3 years now and we have been close to breaking up many times. We have what I would call a roolercoaster relationship. So I do see what you mean when you say you can't understand that I would let her control me that much. Sometimes I don't understand it my self. But it's not like she controls my entire life, she just, and I still don't understand this, hates Penis Enlargement. For some reason she can't see what I would want to do it for. I have compared it to bodybuilding and her comment is that she doesn't understand that either. So at the moment I'm really trying to work with my independents and taking alot of stands. The reason I didn't in the past was because we lived far apart. So when we where together I let her get away with alot of things. But not anymore it's all changing but it can't changes in days

supermanx · Mar 28, 2006

Lifes too short to not be happy, sounds like more then just a no pe stance with this chick. You need to seriously evaluate why your with her. personally I feel its none of her business if you want to workout, do pe, or learn to speak italian, you should never have to justify bettering yourself to another person.

icecam · Mar 28, 2006

but you also got to take it from her view. she prob does not want him to get too big and end up really hurting her. thats why she is worried.

TomdW · Mar 28, 2006

icecam said:
but you also got to take it from her view. she prob does not want him to get too big and end up really hurting her. thats why she is worried.

I'm not sure that you're right there. For that to be true she would have to feel the same way about Body Building or fitness too since she sees no point in that either.

Obviously there is a point all of those things and anyone can see that. BB, if done correctly, makes you healthier and better looking and Penis Enlargement pretty much does the same but in a sexual sense but with the added bonus of more enjoyable sex for both partners.

Here's the thing. I believe that this all comes from her insecurities about your relationship and more importantly herself. It seems to me that she is scarred of losing you and probably associates these things that you want to do to improve yourself as you making yourself better in some ways in order to find a better mate (GF) and leaving her. IMO you should explain to her that you love her very much (as it sounds like you do) but you want to Penis Enlargement and/or BB in order to improve yourself for the reasons that I've already mentioned. But make it clear that it is only for you and her and no-one else.

I was trying to get my head around her way of thinking for a while after your first post but since you wrote that she is insecure it all made sense. IMO her point of view is that she loves you just the way you are so why change unless you plan on leaving her for someone better.

To be honest this is a very negative and selfish way of thinking. Positive actions that you take should always and only be seen as positive in a relationship. She should support your endeavors whatever they are as long as they help you and/or her. This seems very much to me as if she doesn't want you to get any better than you are in fear of the possibility of you two no longer being a good match.

I read this article in a paper a while ago about relationship dynamics and how the partner in any relationship with better looks or some from of physical attraction that is greater than the other will be in subconscious control of the relationship. It doesn't always have to be good looks. It could be money or some other attribute but in the end there is always some form of hierarchy in any relationship that is dependent on desirability to other potential mates. When things such as changes in appearance occur the power can gradually or quickly slip from one member to the other.

So I think that your GF is trying to avoid this from happening and in turn she is trying to keep you down to at least her level or desirability. That is very unhealthy indeed and it is not good for you on any level to be involved with someone like that. In a nut shell you appear to be in some form of power struggle within your relationship. Personally I would leave her no matter what she said to stop me (probably running me down) or how much I think I love her but at the very least you should take a stand and say 'I'm doing these things because they are good for me in many ways.'. Don't let it become a conversation or argument because from the sounds of things you will lose. Just make the point and leave it at that. If she gets emotional which she probably would then be prepared to not budge even when she makes you feel guilty. Come on. She would be making you feel guilty about trying to better yourself and have at least a little control over your life. Yet again this self victimization is just another scare tactic learned over many years of getting her own way that is used to control you. Say that you are prepared to discuss the matter but not argue over it. Do not let your fear of confrontation make you live your whole life to somebody else's tune.

But IMO you are on a sinking ship.

RoninTT · Apr 4, 2006

TomdW said:
I'm not sure that you're right there. For that to be true she would have to feel the same way about Body Building or fitness too since she sees no point in that either.

Obviously there is a point all of those things and anyone can see that. BB, if done correctly, makes you healthier and better looking and Penis Enlargement pretty much does the same but in a sexual sense but with the added bonus of more enjoyable sex for both partners.

Here's the thing. I believe that this all comes from her insecurities about your relationship and more importantly herself. It seems to me that she is scarred of losing you and probably associates these things that you want to do to improve yourself as you making yourself better in some ways in order to find a better mate (GF) and leaving her. IMO you should explain to her that you love her very much (as it sounds like you do) but you want to Penis Enlargement and/or BB in order to improve yourself for the reasons that I've already mentioned. But make it clear that it is only for you and her and no-one else.

I was trying to get my head around her way of thinking for a while after your first post but since you wrote that she is insecure it all made sense. IMO her point of view is that she loves you just the way you are so why change unless you plan on leaving her for someone better.

To be honest this is a very negative and selfish way of thinking. Positive actions that you take should always and only be seen as positive in a relationship. She should support your endeavors whatever they are as long as they help you and/or her. This seems very much to me as if she doesn't want you to get any better than you are in fear of the possibility of you two no longer being a good match.

I read this article in a paper a while ago about relationship dynamics and how the partner in any relationship with better looks or some from of physical attraction that is greater than the other will be in subconscious control of the relationship. It doesn't always have to be good looks. It could be money or some other attribute but in the end there is always some form of hierarchy in any relationship that is dependent on desirability to other potential mates. When things such as changes in appearance occur the power can gradually or quickly slip from one member to the other.

So I think that your GF is trying to avoid this from happening and in turn she is trying to keep you down to at least her level or desirability. That is very unhealthy indeed and it is not good for you on any level to be involved with someone like that. In a nut shell you appear to be in some form of power struggle within your relationship. Personally I would leave her no matter what she said to stop me (probably running me down) or how much I think I love her but at the very least you should take a stand and say 'I'm doing these things because they are good for me in many ways.'. Don't let it become a conversation or argument because from the sounds of things you will lose. Just make the point and leave it at that. If she gets emotional which she probably would then be prepared to not budge even when she makes you feel guilty. Come on. She would be making you feel guilty about trying to better yourself and have at least a little control over your life. Yet again this self victimization is just another scare tactic learned over many years of getting her own way that is used to control you. Say that you are prepared to discuss the matter but not argue over it. Do not let your fear of confrontation make you live your whole life to somebody else's tune.

But IMO you are on a sinking ship.

It's scary how many things in what you have said that is completely true. She is scared of me leaving her for another. Sometimes she even asks me to my face why I would want to be with her. She doesn't think that she is good enough for me. I love her no doubt about that, otherwise I wouldn't be with her still. But I have thought about leaving her a couple of times during your relationship. And at the moment it seems like we are getting ready to taking the next step, ie. moving in together. She also talks about kids but I have made it clear that is not something I want until I'm done with my education. But the point is, that I have a really hard time seeing us together all the time. In some way I just don't think we can live together as your relationship is at the moment.

I know she has been controlling me for a long time. And I have finally gotten up the stones to do something about it. The big problem for me is that I have always been afraid of conflict, and I'm the kind of person that wants to save every body and make them better. This makes it hard to but my foot down as it almost every time hurts her.

One of the really weird things about all this Penis Enlargement, was the other day when she told me that me doing Penis Enlargement at the moment didn't bother her, but she looked forward to me stopping in 6 months. This is really weird when I think about how much energy she but in to stopping me from doing it. Now she has no problem with it, this I just can't understand! She goes back and fourth on everything she has said to me in the past. And it just makes me think that if she doesn't have a problem with it now, then she shouldn't have a problem with me continuing for as long as it takes me to reach whatever goal I want.

lstboyscout · Apr 4, 2006

I know where you are coming from roninTT because i was exactly like that, afraid of confrontation , always backing down when the real arguments need to be settled, always the first person to give help to someone who needs it but find the favours are slow in coming when i am the one who needs it. Thats the problem with being a nice guy , they often come last.
But the good news is you can still be a decent individual without having to take crap from people, which is something I have learned to do (through a year of therapy) and since then has been the most liberating time of my life.
While you have the "stones" think about what you want, what you need and make a decision and STICK with it and carry it out in full.Dont change your mind while talking to your GF because you already know what you want.Realize before hand that you will want to change your mind under the pressure, just dont let it happen. Take it from someone who knows, this can be a life changing decision, if you stand up and call a spade a spade you will feel more of a man than if you had another couple of inches.

RoninTT · Apr 5, 2006

lstboyscout said:
I know where you are coming from roninTT because i was exactly like that, afraid of confrontation , always backing down when the real arguments need to be settled, always the first person to give help to someone who needs it but find the favours are slow in coming when i am the one who needs it. Thats the problem with being a nice guy , they often come last.
But the good news is you can still be a decent individual without having to take crap from people, which is something I have learned to do (through a year of therapy) and since then has been the most liberating time of my life.
While you have the "stones" think about what you want, what you need and make a decision and STICK with it and carry it out in full.Dont change your mind while talking to your GF because you already know what you want.Realize before hand that you will want to change your mind under the pressure, just dont let it happen. Take it from someone who knows, this can be a life changing decision, if you stand up and call a spade a spade you will feel more of a man than if you had another couple of inches.

It's good to hear that I'm not the only person that have it this way. And yes I also know that there is a way out of it. Sometimes it's just easier to make the stand, but I'm getting better at it. I don't want to be a idiot and won't do anything that I'm 100% dedicated to. But ultimately it's about me and my happiness. Getting to this point has been hard, especially when I have a GF that wants so much from me. Sometimes I feel like no matter what I do it will never be enough for her. When I tell her this she can sometimes understand and thinks that it's very selfish of her. But not always and thats when we can really go at it.

But it's really nice to hear I'm not alone with my problems and talk to you guys about them. Some times I just need to get the things off my chest.

RoninTT · Apr 26, 2006

I'm sad to say that my motivation has fallen alot, I haven't gotten any Penis Enlargement done the last 2 weeks. I just can't get myself started again. So I'm seriosly thinking about buying a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device so I can atleast get some Penis Enlargement done, and maybe get to my goal.

But the problem is that I haven't heard a definet agrement about the effectivness of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] devices, so if anyone have got some really good input for me don't hold back let me hear.

RoninTT · May 16, 2006

I'm sad to say that I have fallen of the wagon. I haven't been Penis Enlargementing the last 3 weeks. School and my gf has just taken up to much time

. So now I'm trying to get back into it easy. Started some dry and wet jelqing when I take my daily shower. And I have ordered some lotion that can increase the blood flow and I'm going to use that when I'm done with the jelq's. Hopefully that will give me some results with time.

For length I'm still thinking about getting a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device but they are very expensive where I live and I still can't decide witch one it should be. But it's still in my mind and one day I'll take the leap and get one. Hopefully that will give me the last length i'm looking for.

icecam · May 16, 2006

what are your current stats man??

RoninTT · May 17, 2006

icecam said:
what are your current stats man??

I haven't measured right the last couple of months, I did one time after a workout and I couldn't see any difference in my length

maybe that is why I have lost my motivation again I don't know. My girth I haven't measured for a very long time as you can see in my sig, so I actually think that my stats are the same as in my sig:

BPenis EnlargementL - 7.8"
EG - 5.9"

So I'm not far from my goal and I really hope I can get the last couple of inches.

RoninTT · May 21, 2006

It's great getting back into the Penis Enlargement, I really enjoy the jelqing all ways have, the post workout hang is just great for my ego

I'm also trying to figure out some ADC but the really tricky part is getting the pressure on my device just right. I would like to be able to have it on for most of the day with out discomfort. At the moment I have only been able to wear it for about 1-1.5 hours straight. This has to become better if I want any results.

Also things are getting alot better with my gf. We have talked about Penis Enlargement a couple of times lately and she is over the state where it was just terrible I was doing it. It's great that I can talk to her about it and share my thoughts and dreams. When I mentioned that I wanted a device to stretch my cock all day so I could reach my goal. She just said that I could do that in my summer vacation because she has to work most of it and therefor I should have lots of time. I had expected her to say it was a waste of money and something I shouldn't do. So things couldn't be better I just have to get back into something that can give me the last length I want.

RoninTT · May 24, 2006

It's really hard to get the ADC right, at the moment I can only have it on for about 1 hour. But it's not the pressure that's the problem it's pinching of my skin

I'll have to try some different type of wrapping. At the moment I use a small dress sock but apparently that's not good enough. Do all you ADC guys have any advice for me?

EVO · May 24, 2006

hey, go to www.mynewsize.com and buy some sheaths. they are really stretchy and stick to each other. after hanging in the morning i put 2 or 3 of these together (folded in half) and just leave them at the base of my dick. i use talc to stop any pinching. ive been doing this about 6-8 hours/day easily, when you finish for the day the pump feels awesome (like having an erect sized flaccid)

RoninTT · May 25, 2006

EVO said:
hey, go to www.mynewsize.com and buy some sheaths. they are really stretchy and stick to each other. after hanging in the morning i put 2 or 3 of these together (folded in half) and just leave them at the base of my dick. i use talc to stop any pinching. ive been doing this about 6-8 hours/day easily, when you finish for the day the pump feels awesome (like having an erect sized flaccid)

Looks really good could be the thing I'm looking for. It's just a pain that all the products are from the US makes it hard for me to order and there is some wait involved.

I've been sticking to the jelqing and am doing 400-500 every day followed by 1 hour clamping at low pressure. Since I started this I have noticed one big difference. When I'm flaccid the base of my dick is alot wider, it gives it a cone kind of look. I don't know if this is from the jelqing or the clamping but I'm taking it as a sign of improvement

RoninTT · May 25, 2006

I must have done something right because today I was able to wear my ADC device three full hours. I'm sore but not in a bad way, and I have a really good flaccid hang at the moment

I think this it the road forward for me in getting to my last girth goals.

Manimal · May 25, 2006

Well done Ronin.

I'm glad you've sorted your problems with the ADC. Keep up the good work and get those last girth goals.

Manimal

EVO · May 25, 2006

RoninTT said:
Looks really good could be the thing I'm looking for. It's just a pain that all the products are from the US makes it hard for me to order and there is some wait involved.

I've been sticking to the jelqing and am doing 400-500 every day followed by 1 hour clamping at low pressure. Since I started this I have noticed one big difference. When I'm flaccid the base of my dick is alot wider, it gives it a cone kind of look. I don't know if this is from the jelqing or the clamping but I'm taking it as a sign of improvement

take asprin when you clamp (your dick wont go cold as easily)
similar to my routine - i hang 1 hour in the morning, followed by 4 hours of that adc, then 600 jelqs, then another 3/4 hours adc.
adc is defo the way to go, i wake up in the morning with really hard erections that FEEL thicker (not measuring any thicker yet). will see in a few months

just incase your interested - i live in uk and them sheaths took 10 days to ship

RoninTT · May 26, 2006

EVO said:
.....adc is defo the way to go, i wake up in the morning with really hard erections that FEEL thicker (not measuring any thicker yet). will see in a few months

Same here I get a harder erection sometimes that leads me to belief that I have gained when I have not, but the feeling is great and it looks really good

RoninTT · Jun 12, 2006

Well this thread is closed now. My gf broke up with me a week ago so I'm not limited in my time anymore.