Blood came out of glans while clamping???

[jekyllnhyde360]

i had just started clamping and went to do a squeeze and a nickel sized blood drop came out of the glans, then another smaller one.
i tried squeezing the glans and another drop came out and that was it.
i could still stay hard but the spongiosum completely emptied.
Not sure why?
hopefully its just the trauma and once healed it will get erect fine again.
when i first closed the clamp, i felt something weird at the base, but it wasnt until i squeezed the blood came.
after jerking off for a bit to make sure im not completely unable to stay hard, i came and there was no blood on the semen, so thats good i hope.
anyone else ever have blood come out the glans from the shaft?
if so what did you do?

 

[owmaballs]

Ok, yup this can happen. Sounds like you may be being overly cautious, don't take this wrong but perhaps a bit timid.
You're not clamping with sufficient force.

You're not really campling until you've needed stitches. OK?

No, of course not.

With everything PE, if you've caused bleeding you've now gone way past the point you're trying for, with force, intensity or duration.
Scale it back next time, in all, or one of those ways.
What you do is make sure you help your body heal. If you have any folic acid, now is the time to take it, you can take up to 6 times the daily allowance. It is used by the body in healing damage, replacing & growing cells.

 

[stillwantmore]

Have you done other girth exercises before? Namely, intense squeezes? It sounds like you ruptured capillaries in your urethra. The lining of the urethra is very thin and lined with capillaries. Too much pressure in the glans can make them "pop". They will bleed and stop about as quick as they start. A similar effect is smacking the inside of your wrist on a hard surface. Next time, use less pressure. You may get good results just clamping with no squeezes for quite a while.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

Have you done other girth exercises before? Namely, intense squeezes? It sounds like you ruptured capillaries in your urethra. The lining of the urethra is very thin and lined with capillaries. Too much pressure in the glans can make them "pop". They will bleed and stop about as quick as they start. A similar effect is smacking the inside of your wrist on a hard surface. Next time, use less pressure. You may get good results just clamping with no squeezes for quite a while.

ya i think i tore the urethra, i've done it before, and it took for ever to heal, so that blows.

 

[templnite]

Ah man its the Jurassic crushers they compress right on the urethra
Stillwantsmore the other day I was doing your wall press, and started getting tons of little veins all over my glans its normal?

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

I know lol the JC are crazy intense, but they bring incredible girth, I'll just lay off for a bit.

 

[Longth]

If you've never tried it, edging with a ring is one hell of an alternative. I've seen pumps nobody would believe without pictures between that and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

 

[DLD]

Clamping scares me for so many reasons. I hope you heal quickly jekyllnhyde and take more precautions when you start again.

 

[kyomoto]

Clamping scares me for so many reasons. I hope you heal quickly jekyllnhyde and take more precautions when you start again.

Yeah scares me too. Having a thing choke your member. Fuck sometimes I think it'll leak blood

 

[Longth]

Seriously, clamping is the midevil cousin of edging with a ring. Edging with a ring actually feels good. And you can, depending on the elasticity of the ring, just go on with it for as long as you want without shit like this happening.

 

[DLD]

Seriously, clamping is the midevil cousin of edging with a ring. Edging with a ring actually feels good. And you can, depending on the elasticity of the ring, just go on with it for as long as you want without shit like this happening.

Agreed. Clamping remains something that I can not get behind.

 

[Aimingforthetop]

i fucking love clamping. but i waited 4 years before i tryed it. and i still take it slow when i use it.

clamping is without comparison the place where most shit can go bad as sooo much pressure is being build.

 

[templnite]

I know lol the JC are crazy intense, but they bring incredible girth, I'll just lay off for a bit.

The urethra is incredibly soft tissue so its likely that as fast as it will injure it will also heal :blush:

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

motherFUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!
I gave it time to heal since it happened, but i just tried a regular girth session no clamps, just some bends and squeezes, and blood came out again!!!!
soooooo pissed, this is the worst time ot could happen, right as i begin to cement a quarter inch of girth from 5 to 5.1/4.
this is bull man!
ive worked wayyy to hard for this.
i can srill get erect, should i just keep exercising and say f*** the blood?
because i really dont want to lose my gains.

 

[ChilDsh]

motherFUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!
I gave it time to heal since it happened, but i just tried a regular girth session no clamps, just some bends and squeezes, and blood came out again!!!!
soooooo pissed, this is the worst time ot could happen, right as i begin to cement a quarter inch of girth from 5 to 5.1/4.
this is bull man!
ive worked wayyy to hard for this.
i can srill get erect, should i just keep exercising and say f*** the blood?
because i really dont want to lose my gains.

Fuck the gains..safety comes first.You can get those gains back,but you can't get your dick's health back.Take a good break until your dick heals.

As DLD said , clamping scares me too..i stay way from clamping,pumping is much safer imo,so next time you clamp,be careful,a lot of wrong things could happen.

 

[DLD]

As DLD said , clamping scares me too..i stay way from clamping,pumping is much safer imo,so next time you clamp,be careful,a lot of wrong things could happen.

I have seen more injuries from Clamping than any other practice here, even hanging. I just would not want to risk my penis with something that could fuck it up. I am not speaking for the Brotherhood here as this is my own personal opinion, there are men with great experience that can pull clamping off but for the most part I would avoid it.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

Thanks guys!
Ya, your probably right I should probably just let it rest. But it's just so hard to let the gains I was cementing fade, honestly it's down right depressing, this is literally the third time I've been close to cementing that quarter inch, the other two where due to privacy.
It's been like a year and a half now HOLY crap, like am I ever going to be able to cement this damn thing.
It's enough to make a grown man cry like a bitch!
Like my erection are horrible right now, and I've lost all interest in sex, for what reasons? I don't know?
All I know is when I feel my boner and it's not as big as it usually is because of pe, I lose all.interest.

 

[owmaballs]

Thanks guys!
Ya, your probably right I should probably just let it rest. But it's just so hard to let the gains I was cementing fade, honestly it's down right depressing, this is literally the third time I've been close to cementing that quarter inch, the other two where due to privacy.
It's been like a year and a half now HOLY crap, like am I ever going to be able to cement this damn thing.
It's enough to make a grown man cry like a bitch!
Like my erection are horrible right now, and I've lost all interest in sex, for what reasons? I don't know?
All I know is when I feel my boner and it's not as big as it usually is because of pe, I lose all.interest.

I've been where you are, how you are feeling. I think plenty of us have.
As the wise men said to the King who was lost in angst, "this too shall pass".
I'm sure you know you'll get back to awesome training sessions soon enough.
The key thing is to learn from this, and ensure it doesn't repeat.

Play it that little bit safer in future, in terms of the pressure, duration, or force that you applied. You found a limit. It's just a case of pushing it as close to the line you overshot last time, but ensuring you never quite cross it from now on.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

exactly, but it still sux large lol

 

[templnite]

I remember you said with Jurassic crushers the expansion would stick around for more than two days. How many days a week were you training, and was it using Jurassic crushers?

 

[kyomoto]

Thanks guys!
Ya, your probably right I should probably just let it rest. But it's just so hard to let the gains I was cementing fade, honestly it's down right depressing, this is literally the third time I've been close to cementing that quarter inch, the other two where due to privacy.
It's been like a year and a half now HOLY crap, like am I ever going to be able to cement this damn thing.
It's enough to make a grown man cry like a bitch!
Like my erection are horrible right now, and I've lost all interest in sex, for what reasons? I don't know?
All I know is when I feel my boner and it's not as big as it usually is because of pe, I lose all.interest.

I'd give PE a rest for maybe 1 month or so :L How long do you plan on resting?

 

[DLD]

This is more than likely a cut in your urethra, this is usually the case when there is a small amount of blood present. It takes about a week to heal. You should be back to work in no time, just be careful this time.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

This is more than likely a cut in your urethra, this is usually the case when there is a small amount of blood present. It takes about a week to heal. You should be back to work in no time, just be careful this time.

ya your probably right, stillsux that i cant workout , but im taking this time to rebuild my routine, im going to go a little lighter on clamping and more manuals, although i really dont get much from manuals.

 

[DLD]

ya your probably right, stillsux that i cant workout , but im taking this time to rebuild my routine, im going to go a little lighter on clamping and more manuals, although i really dont get much from manuals.

You can test to see if you have healed by doing a 5 minute session of strong jelqs. If you can get through 5 minutes with no blood the cut has healed.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

You can test to see if you have healed by doing a 5 minute session of strong jelqs. If you can get through 5 minutes with no blood the cut has healed.

Oh nice, that's a great idea, thanks D!

 

[kyomoto]

You can test to see if you have healed by doing a 5 minute session of strong jelqs. If you can get through 5 minutes with no blood the cut has healed.

Sounds like a great test.

 

[DLD]

Oh nice, that's a great idea, thanks D!

Has this healed for you?

 

[User182811]

This just happened to me last night weirdly enough. I wasn't even clamping, just doing ssjs, ulis and jelqs.

I think it happened when my pressing hand slipped off the glans while doing an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and it was just kind of a rough movement. It was just a tiny bit right at the opening. I continued jelqing and also ended up cumming and there was no blood.

If I had not just read about it I would have probably freaked out. It still does kinda weird me out and I really hope there's no blood next time.

 

[DLD]

This just happened to me last night weirdly enough. I wasn't even clamping, just doing ssjs, ulis and jelqs.

I think it happened when my pressing hand slipped off the glans while doing an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and it was just kind of a rough movement. It was just a tiny bit right at the opening. I continued jelqing and also ended up cumming and there was no blood.

If I had not just read about it I would have probably freaked out. It still does kinda weird me out and I really hope there's no blood next time.

I hope my advice is hitting home for men who are getting injured with clamping, I hate to see you guys injured!

 

[kyomoto]

I hope my advice is hitting home for men who are getting injured with clamping, I hate to see you guys injured!

Yeah one must take caution with the glans, a very sensitive and easily part to damage.

 

[User182811]

I hope my advice is hitting home for men who are getting injured with clamping, I hate to see you guys injured!

I wasn't clamping. I don't clamp ever. I bought and tried stillwantmore2's penis clamp but I don't like it and never use it.

I thought about buying a regular cable clamp but then I kept reading more bad things about discoloration and bruising and stuff so I just use my hands. My injury resulted in a slip of the hand while pressing against the glans. I think it cut the urethral opening or busted a capillary right inside the opening. Very small amount of blood.

 

[templnite]

But why do you think swm's clamp is wack?

 

[stillwantmore]

But why do you think swm's clamp is wack?

Yes please elaborate and why not email me for help? Most issues are easily resolved 1 on 1.

 

[kyomoto]

But why do you think swm's clamp is wack?

Clamping is notorious for its bad effects if trained improperly. Of course Stillwantmore2 can help him out and clarify good details in order to clamp without the bad effects

 

[Asanon]

I hope my advice is hitting home for men who are getting injured with clamping, I hate to see you guys injured!

This just happened to me last night weirdly enough. I wasn't even clamping, just doing ssjs, ulis and jelqs.

There's been such great info from everyone, and the original poster has probably long ago realized that they're going to be fine, and healed up already ... that I'd held off posting anything about it, but have just one or two things to add --

This very minor temporary injury might, or might not, happen from pretty much anything you do in your PE career...

I've gotten this a couple of times, lonnng ago, after some intense erect jelquing .. which could be an obvious trigger for it ... but never gotten it from any other PE activity of any manner, including Clamping stunts that I still won't post about because they're like a guaranteed thrombos .. but yet, for me, never produced any urethral blood.

And while numerous advanced PE methods, across years, never replicated the two brief events of bleeding from the erect jelquing ... I got some urethral blood within the last two months (the worst ever so far if memory serves) from not even doing any PE at all. Crazy. I was going to wear a cockring for sex, just to be obnoxious, and went for a quick piss beforehand. Not wanting to take the ring off and on, I just whizzed with it on ... and ... Don't Do That!

I'd swear I'd done that before with no problem, but maybe it was a different ring, or ? , but anyway ... Worst. Bleeding. Ever.

Not like losing an arm, in terms of any real injury it was barely a smashed thumb, but it was very definitely worse than the previous events, probably 8 years earlier, from the erect jelquing.

Points being ...

Individually, you might ..or might not ..get urethral bleeding from pretty much anything. If you do, it's probably not as bad as it seems. Just back off doing things until it seems better, and then look out for that particular thing in the future. You'll be fine.

As for pissing with a cockring on, the same probably applies to that activity as well ... it might .. or might not .. cause a problem.

All I know is that I erect jelqued tons of times after those injuries ... but will n.e.v.e.r. piss again while wearing a cockring. lol. Ever.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

As far as the whole hysteria around clamping goes, its a little ridiculous, i've been clamping for going on six years now, and have had all of two injuries.
Anything can be dangerous, its about using your intelligence, and if something should occur, its probably not going to be something horrendous.
I've healed completely now, and will get back to clamping soon, as far as SWM clamping device, i really like it, i wish i had one myself, from what ive seen, it leaves alot less room for error that the conventional clamp does.
The prob with camping is that it takes time to learn, most newbs just jump in without any experience and think they'll figure it out quick, but they dont, because it tales time to get it down, like i said ive been clamping for almost six years, and trust me i still have days where the wrapping is a bitch, or i cant get the right fit and i just ditch the whole session lol

 

[DLD]

Clamping is notorious for its bad effects if trained improperly.

And this is the reason we see injury after injury in clamping. This is not hysteria nor do I have anything against clamping or I would not have a clamping forum in the Brotherhood.

 

[kyomoto]

And this is the reason we see injury after injury in clamping. This is not hysteria nor do I have anything against clamping or I would not have a clamping forum in the Brotherhood.

Exactly. It's the technique and the limitations to which the individual takes clamping to. We must stay in the safe zone.

@jekllynhyde

IF you've clamped that long with minimal injuries thats because you've stayed within the safe zone. You maintained a proper usage of intensity and technique to a point where you didn't have any problems. THere are some people that go into clamping and do something that is not a beginner routine which ends up resulting in severe injuries.

 

[User182811]

Yes please elaborate and why not email me for help? Most issues are easily resolved 1 on 1.

I just don't like using it. It's not easy to get on and off or make quick adjustments. I don't like having to mess with the screw and washer set-up and making sure I don't pinch myself or get the wrap or sleeve caught in the crack.

I'm sure I could get more proficient with it if I used it more but I feel like a cable clamp would work better and they're cheaper. But I don't want a bruised or thrombosed dick so I'm just gonna stick with my hands. I have pretty good grip strength from working out with fat gripz and captains of crush trainers. Or sometimes I'll just edge with a cockring.

I would have emailed you but I figured you wouldn't accept a return and I just kinda said screw it, maybe I'll sell it on ebay or use it sometime down the road.

 

[stillwantmore]

I just don't like using it. It's not easy to get on and off or make quick adjustments. I don't like having to mess with the screw and washer set-up and making sure I don't pinch myself or get the wrap or sleeve caught in the crack.

I'm sure I could get more proficient with it if I used it more but I feel like a cable clamp would work better and they're cheaper. But I don't want a bruised or thrombosed dick so I'm just gonna stick with my hands. I have pretty good grip strength from working out with fat gripz and captains of crush trainers. Or sometimes I'll just edge with a cockring.

I would have emailed you but I figured you wouldn't accept a return and I just kinda said screw it, maybe I'll sell it on ebay or use it sometime down the road.

Thanks for your feedback and I can see your side. I would just hang onto it in case you decide to use it again one day. You are correct, I do not accept returns (nor do most adult novelty retailers) because my devices come in direct contact with the male genitalia.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

And this is the reason we see injury after injury in clamping. This is not hysteria nor do I have anything against clamping or I would not have a clamping forum in the Brotherhood.

Ya, that is actually very true, i guess injuries are more common than i thought, but its usually newbies that jump straight into them lol
it's like hanging, it could be dangerous if your inexperienced or just an idiot. lol

 

[templnite]

it could be dangerous if your inexperienced or just an idiot. lol

That's the target XD! I know my way around clamps quite well, but I always use extra caution when I do my stunts. Some sensations can seem alien at first, but are part of the show while others are direct signs from the lord that you must stop. Always use common sense brothers don't be an idiot XDXD

 

[kyomoto]

Ya, that is actually very true, i guess injuries are more common than i thought, but its usually newbies that jump straight into them lol
it's like hanging, it could be dangerous if your inexperienced or just an idiot. lol

Yeah newbies aren't aware of the possible injuries that come with clamping and needs to be given more emphasis so they can take caution.

 

[DLD]

Yeah newbies aren't aware of the possible injuries that come with clamping and needs to be given more emphasis so they can take caution.

Anyone attempting clamping needs to read through RedZulu's Clamping Thread. You can also look to StillWantMore. The thing is if you are not careful and you attempt clamping you could be left with an injury. Be careful with the cock, you got only one.

 

[huge-girth]

i had just started clamping and went to do a squeeze and a nickel sized blood drop came out of the glans, then another smaller one.
i tried squeezing the glans and another drop came out and that was it.
i could still stay hard but the spongiosum completely emptied.
Not sure why?
hopefully its just the trauma and once healed it will get erect fine again.
when i first closed the clamp, i felt something weird at the base, but it wasnt until i squeezed the blood came.
after jerking off for a bit to make sure im not completely unable to stay hard, i came and there was no blood on the semen, so thats good i hope.
anyone else ever have blood come out the glans from the shaft?
if so what did you do?

Sometimes I get a weird feeling at the base when I attach the length master for my expressive stretching session but it doesn't hurt and I haven't seen any blood. Hopefully, it will remain this way.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

i had just started clamping and went to do a squeeze and a nickel sized blood drop came out of the glans, then another smaller one.
i tried squeezing the glans and another drop came out and that was it.
i could still stay hard but the spongiosum completely emptied.
Not sure why?
hopefully its just the trauma and once healed it will get erect fine again.
when i first closed the clamp, i felt something weird at the base, but it wasnt until i squeezed the blood came.
after jerking off for a bit to make sure im not completely unable to stay hard, i came and there was no blood on the semen, so thats good i hope.
anyone else ever have blood come out the glans from the shaft?
if so what did you do?

I think clamping is way to dangerous to do. The risk of thrombosis is to great. If you get DVT (Deep Vain Trombosis) you risk getting permanent damaged in your body (brain, heart, lungs...etc). Not worth it!

Just use the: Girth Program: 5x5x3 instead. Much safer.

 

[Grandmaster]

Clamping and EU's are extremely high risk. This is for very advanced PEers who have a great deal of experience doing girth work.
You have to be in touch with your body, to know your limits. It takes experience to master it.
Once you get to a certain level, and are ready to try clamping or EU's, you have to start out slowly and with extreme caution. You have to get a feel for how your body is responding, and react accordingly. You have to be on high alert, because things can go wrong very quickly under such high pressure.

I will tell you all a quick story.

For those of you who don't know, EU's, or Extreme Uli's, are similar to clamping, except you are using flexible PVC tubing and a hose clamp to tighten down. Anyway, I had bought a screwdriver to tighten and loosen the hose clamp.

One day, I was on my second 10-minute set. My shaft looked and felt like it was about to burst, and it was time to remove the device, at around the 8 minute mark. So I went to reach for my screwdriver that I would keep on my bed. I ran my hand over the bottom part of my mattress where it was supposed to be, but it wasn't there. I quickly jerked my comforter off of my bed to find the screwdriver. It was nowhere in sight. At this point, my mind automatically went into survival mode. I knew I was in very serious trouble, and I couldn't think straight. My heart was literally pounding, like it was about to burst out of my chest. The adrenaline rush was in full effect. In a moment of clarity, I looked towards the end of my mattress, where it intersected with my wall. The screwdriver was hidden in that little space between the edge of my mattress and my wall. Somehow it made its way there.
I grabbed the screwdriver and got the device off as quickly as I could, which took more time than usual, because my hands were literally shaking the whole time. When I got that thing off, I quickly checked to see if I still had feeling, to see if everything was fine. Thankfully, everything was okay.
Those were the scariest 20 seconds of my entire PE career.
That was the last time I ever did EU's.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Clamping and EU's are extremely high risk. This is for very advanced PEers who have a great deal of experience doing girth work.
You have to be in touch with your body, to know your limits. It takes experience to master it.
Once you get to a certain level, and are ready to try clamping or EU's, you have to start out slowly and with extreme caution. You have to get a feel for how your body is responding, and react accordingly. You have to be on high alert, because things can go wrong very quickly under such high pressure.

I will tell you all a quick story.

For those of you who don't know, EU's, or Extreme Uli's, are similar to clamping, except you are using flexible PVC tubing and a hose clamp to tighten down. Anyway, I had bought a screwdriver to tighten and loosen the hose clamp.

One day, I was on my second 10-minute set. My shaft looked and felt like it was about to burst, and it was time to remove the device, at around the 8 minute mark. So I went to reach for my screwdriver that I would keep on my bed. I ran my hand over the bottom part of my mattress where it was supposed to be, but it wasn't there. I quickly jerked my comforter off of my bed to find the screwdriver. It was nowhere in sight. At this point, my mind automatically went into survival mode. I knew I was in very serious trouble, and I couldn't think straight. My heart was literally pounding, like it was about to burst out of my chest. The adrenaline rush was in full effect. In a moment of clarity, I looked towards the end of my mattress, where it intersected with my wall. The screwdriver was hidden in that little space between the edge of my mattress and my wall. Somehow it made its way there.
I grabbed the screwdriver and got the device off as quickly as I could, which took more time than usual, because my hands were literally shaking the whole time. When I got that thing off, I quickly checked to see if I still had feeling, to see if everything was fine. Thankfully, everything was okay.
Those were the scariest 20 seconds of my entire PE career.
That was the last time I ever did EU's.

Thanks for sharing your story brother.
Glad everything was okay.
Sounds like it was from a scary movie.

 

[huge-girth]

Clamping and EU's are extremely high risk. This is for very advanced PEers who have a great deal of experience doing girth work.
You have to be in touch with your body, to know your limits. It takes experience to master it.
Once you get to a certain level, and are ready to try clamping or EU's, you have to start out slowly and with extreme caution. You have to get a feel for how your body is responding, and react accordingly. You have to be on high alert, because things can go wrong very quickly under such high pressure.

I will tell you all a quick story.

For those of you who don't know, EU's, or Extreme Uli's, are similar to clamping, except you are using flexible PVC tubing and a hose clamp to tighten down. Anyway, I had bought a screwdriver to tighten and loosen the hose clamp.

One day, I was on my second 10-minute set. My shaft looked and felt like it was about to burst, and it was time to remove the device, at around the 8 minute mark. So I went to reach for my screwdriver that I would keep on my bed. I ran my hand over the bottom part of my mattress where it was supposed to be, but it wasn't there. I quickly jerked my comforter off of my bed to find the screwdriver. It was nowhere in sight. At this point, my mind automatically went into survival mode. I knew I was in very serious trouble, and I couldn't think straight. My heart was literally pounding, like it was about to burst out of my chest. The adrenaline rush was in full effect. In a moment of clarity, I looked towards the end of my mattress, where it intersected with my wall. The screwdriver was hidden in that little space between the edge of my mattress and my wall. Somehow it made its way there.
I grabbed the screwdriver and got the device off as quickly as I could, which took more time than usual, because my hands were literally shaking the whole time. When I got that thing off, I quickly checked to see if I still had feeling, to see if everything was fine. Thankfully, everything was okay.
Those were the scariest 20 seconds of my entire PE career.
That was the last time I ever did EU's.

This was very scary to read. I will never do this exercise.

 

[Grandmaster]

Thanks for sharing your story brother.
Glad everything was okay.
Sounds like it was from a scary movie.

It was very scary. I remember a couple of days later, I purchased the ThickerMan clamp (I think that's what it's called, it was a long time ago), and never looked back.
Usually, when you have a bad experience with something, it is hard to do it again. With clamping, you have better control, and do not need a screwdriver. But you still have to be extremely careful.
Shortly after using the clamp, I wanted to get back into hanging. Compression hanging and clamping do not go hand in hand, there are many issues that can arise. So I dropped clamping completely. Through EU's, I made a permanent 0.25" gain. Length is more important to me, so I will get back into clamping in the future, when I have reached my goals through extending, which is what I am now doing. I still have my clamping device after all these years.