Time/Weight Needed For BIG Gains

I'd just like a little clarification on what it will more than likely take for me to reach my goal. I know that I'll make gains at a couple hours a day at 17-20 pounds per set but something tells me that this won't be enough to get a 10 incher any time within the next decade. I know that SWM gained 3/4" in 3 months at an AVERAGE of 4 hours per day but I'm not sure if he is 10" NBP either. If I really push it I should be able to get 2 hours in per day Monday-Friday at work and another 3 hours per day after work. This will leave me zero time for other activities but Penis Enlargement is my #2 priority behind school anyway so I think I can do it. Should 5 hours a day at 17-20 pounds per set be enough to reach my goal within 3 or 4 years from my current size(in sig)? As my penis gets conditioned I'll move up in weight of course but is my plan good enough to get me on the right track? Thanks,
Gomer

Gomer sounds like you have a good plan. But - I would be very careful not to over do it you can easily go overboard. Learn to read your body signs and if something hurts stop and take some rest days!!

Bib will be able to point you in the right direction. Dont take someone else's gains being big or small and make them your golden rule. You will be different, everyone's gains are different. It took me 8 months to gain my first 1/4 inch then it just went wild and kept coming.

Gomer,

>If I really push it I should be able to get 2 hours in per day Monday-Friday at work and another 3 hours per day after work. This will leave me zero time for other activities but Penis Enlargement is my #2 priority behind school anyway so I think I can do it. Should 5 hours a day at 17-20 pounds per set be enough to reach my goal within 3 or 4 years from my current size(in sig)? As my penis gets conditioned I'll move up in weight of course but is my plan good enough to get me on the right track?<

I am not sure you are looking at this correctly. You say Penis Enlargement is your #2 priority. That does not sound so healthy. I can think of many things more important. Five hours per day is probably a bit of overkill. I think the returns will begin to diminish after about four hours. Splitting the sessions might help somewhat though.

But you need to work hanging in, and think of it as, the secondary task in your multi-tasking. It is the passive activity. So get in your studying, TV watching, web surfing, whatever, and passively hang weights at the same time. Then, be sure to try and go out and enjoy life. The only active time you will have to spend is getting set up, and thinking about your Penis Enlargement plan, and the next steps to take, especially when you have plateaued.

Bigger

Thanks for the replies guys. Bib, I thought I read somewhere that the only way you were able to make the gains you did was by being able to hang for most of the day. But if I'm mistaken please let me know. If 4 hours a day will get me to my goal then that is what I'll do. I realize that gains are different for everyone but I personally believe that if I work long and hard enough, I can reach my goal. I would just like some opinions from experienced vets on what they did to reach their goals because that will give me somewhat of an idea of what it will take. I may have to work harder or not as hard but as long as I know what you guys did I can base my workouts around that initially. About priorities, if there is something else that I need to do then I'll do it of course. My days consist of going to work, school, and then going home. When I'm home I usually work on my Camaro or watch TV so I have plenty of free time. Thanks again for the advice,
Gomer

ctmwm said:

Gomer sounds like you have a good plan. But - I would be very careful not to over do it you can easily go overboard. Learn to read your body signs and if something hurts stop and take some rest days!!

Bib will be able to point you in the right direction. Dont take someone else's gains being big or small and make them your golden rule. You will be different, everyone's gains are different. It took me 8 months to gain my first 1/4 inch then it just went wild and kept coming.

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ctmwm,
you mentioned that after about 8 months the gains started coming for you. it got me thinking....at what point did you start serious ball hanging/stretching? did it happen to be around your 8th month of regular hanging? i ask this b/c i truly believe that i've reached a small barrier to getting more length gains in my hanging routine. that barrier, imo, is due to my scrotum getting higher and tighter than it used to be. i think that too much skin was "borrowed" from my scrotum and now my balls are kind of "in the way" of my penis getting lower and longer. i hope i'm explaining this okay. this is my theory and that's why i just ordered a ball weight. i plan on seeing if this idea holds any water. i think it's similar to what Bib says about the skin needing to be loose and stretched. what do you think?

Gomer,
You definately need to start off slow like everyone said. You won't be able to do the kind of routine you are describing right off the bat--i can almost guarantee you that. your penis and other affected areas will just say no. Don't fight it either--you'll regret it everytime.

Gomer,

>Bib, I thought I read somewhere that the only way you were able to make the gains you did was by being able to hang for most of the day. But if I'm mistaken please let me know. If 4 hours a day will get me to my goal then that is what I'll do.<

I started my Penis Enlargement, and hanging, career back in the old days, about June '98. Heh heh. Seems like forever and only yesterday. Coming up on seven years ago. Not really that long ago in the grand scheme of things. At that time, there was little known (nothing) about using heat. The best hangers were swim caps and loops. Higher weights were not used. There were maybe a thousand guys experimenting with Penis Enlargement.

So, over the course of a few years, I experimented with many things, and found what worked for me. I would never maintain that any of the things I did were what is best for other guys. I did do a hell of a lot of work. I became obsessed with hanging and Penis Enlargement in general. With a lot of privacy time, and given the multi-tasking benefit of hanging, I felt compelled to do a lot. But I truly believe I could have made about the same gains with less time. I could reach fatigue within a couple of sets, and then hang for a goodly amount of time in the fatigued state. That should have done it.

I only have direct experience with one penis. But after reading of the experiences of other guys, over the years, it seems the ones that make the most progress are the guys that really study what they are going through, have a plan, and are able to work at least ten hours per week. They seem to benefit working up to 20-30 hours per week or so. I have not seen much added benefit past that point. But of course, all of this is simply anecdotal evidence.

>I realize that gains are different for everyone but I personally believe that if I work long and hard enough, I can reach my goal.<

I believe that also.

>About priorities, if there is something else that I need to do then I'll do it of course. My days consist of going to work, school, and then going home. When I'm home I usually work on my Camaro or watch TV so I have plenty of free time.<

That sounds great. Just do not sacrifice life, for example sex, for Penis Enlargement. Life is too short. Also, be sure to work up slowly to the higher levels of time and weight. There is no sense in going through an injury, and having to put your goals back a while.

Good luck, and know that myself and others will help any way we can.

Bigger

Thanks again guys. I love this site soooo much!!! I love my Bib starter too. One more thing Bib: Can you sell just the gel insert to me for my Bib starter? Mine is ripping so I'd like a replacement if you have any available.

Anyway, I've been hanging for about 2 hours per day for the past week and I am definitely feeling fatigue. However, I do feel that more time is needed because I'm just not fatigued enough. I honestly think that I could go the full 4 hours per day (2 at work and 2 in the evening) without hurting myself as long as I don't do it consecutively but I will be careful. Bib, what did you mean regarding heat? I've been using hot wraps before and after every set for 5 minutes each, if that is what you meant. Thanks again to everyone and I WILL be careful not to injure myself.
Gomer

Gomer,

>Thanks again guys. I love this site soooo much!!! I love my Bib starter too. One more thing Bib: Can you sell just the gel insert to me for my Bib starter? Mine is ripping so I'd like a replacement if you have any available.<

No, the gel is applied using a mold at 350 degrees. The only way to fix it is to send it back. Please remember, the gel, or soft plastic is held on the hard plastic by the pressure of the hanger. If the gel is tearing, it is probably because the hanger is not tight enough for the amount of weight you are using.

>Bib, what did you mean regarding heat? I've been using hot wraps before and after every set for 5 minutes each, if that is what you meant. Thanks again to everyone and I WILL be careful not to injure myself.<

Yes, that is what I meant. In the beginning, guys were just hanging cold, without using any heat.

Bigger

Bib,
you think heat makes a big difference? i really only tried using heat one time and i can't remember if it really did anything for me. btw, how long did you heat the area for? would a dry heating pad work or is wet heat better? i do remember though, that the one time i used heat, it increased blood flow too much and i got really horny and erect delaying my hanging. i guess i just have to calm down and get used to it.

Thanks Bib. They are only minor rips so I'll just be more careful. For what its worth, the hot wraps with a wet wash cloth have made a big difference for me as far as comfort goes.

gorillaunit said:

ctmwm,
you mentioned that after about 8 months the gains started coming for you. it got me thinking....at what point did you start serious ball hanging/stretching? did it happen to be around your 8th month of regular hanging? i ask this b/c i truly believe that i've reached a small barrier to getting more length gains in my hanging routine. that barrier, imo, is due to my scrotum getting higher and tighter than it used to be. i think that too much skin was "borrowed" from my scrotum and now my balls are kind of "in the way" of my penis getting lower and longer. i hope i'm explaining this okay. this is my theory and that's why i just ordered a ball weight. i plan on seeing if this idea holds any water. i think it's similar to what Bib says about the skin needing to be loose and stretched. what do you think?

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Sorry for the late reply, You know now that you mention it It might have been at the same time. Back then Supra and I were doing some chatting and he started with the 55 mm ball weights and hanging at the same time. Yeah your lower half looks like a Star Wars Character but it was right around there that it started. Also my turkey neck was getting bigger. So I used the Split weights to stop that. And that was the main reason I did both at the same time

gorilla,

>you think heat makes a big difference?<

For me, I know it did. Just no comparison in the reaction of the connective tissues. Much more malleable.

Then, I believe it was hobby over at �other forum� that found a wonderful article about the reaction of connective tissues to heat. I think the barrier was about 103.5 degrees F. When the tissues were heated to that point, or above, the properties changed.

Then, you have the topic of controlled damage, microtears, vs injury, torn connective tissue. Really a very good reason to use heat.

>how long did you heat the area for?<

For about ten minutes before my first set. Then for the first half of the first half of my sets. That means I would usually use heat for the first ten minutes of my mornign sets. Then continue to hang as my unit cooled down in the afternoon sets.

>would a dry heating pad work or is wet heat better?<

I always used a rice sock. It was a damp heat. Never tried a heating pad.

Bigger

Bib said:

gorilla,

>you think heat makes a big difference?<

For me, I know it did. Just no comparison in the reaction of the connective tissues. Much more malleable.

Then, I believe it was hobby over at �other forum� that found a wonderful article about the reaction of connective tissues to heat. I think the barrier was about 103.5 degrees F. When the tissues were heated to that point, or above, the properties changed.

Then, you have the topic of controlled damage, microtears, vs injury, torn connective tissue. Really a very good reason to use heat.

>how long did you heat the area for?<

For about ten minutes before my first set. Then for the first half of the first half of my sets. That means I would usually use heat for the first ten minutes of my mornign sets. Then continue to hang as my unit cooled down in the afternoon sets.

>would a dry heating pad work or is wet heat better?<

I always used a rice sock. It was a damp heat. Never tried a heating pad.

Bigger

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okay, i'm a little confused. you heated for 10 minutes before you started... and then i lose you.

also, where can i get a rice sock? i have no idea what this is. and did you apply it right above the penis on the pubic bone region?

Bigger, am I correct in the following: The reason why you applied heat for ten minutes before the first set of the day was to get everything good and warm and you did not apply the heat for ten minutes before your subsequent sets (after the first set) because your breaks in between the sets were relatively short as opposed to the long over night break while sleeping?

Poke

gorillaunit said:

okay, i'm a little confused. you heated for 10 minutes before you started... and then i lose you.

also, where can i get a rice sock? i have no idea what this is. and did you apply it right above the penis on the pubic bone region?

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Get some brown rice and fill a sock a little more than halfway. I used a black sock, so it didnt get discolored. Then tie off the sock at the top and heat.

jakb said:

Get some brown rice and fill a sock a little more than halfway. I used a black sock, so it didnt get discolored. Then tie off the sock at the top and heat.

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oh. how do you heat it? warm water?

gorillaunit said:

oh. how do you heat it? warm water?

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Microwave.

gorilla,

>okay, i'm a little confused. you heated for 10 minutes before you started... and then i lose you.<

I would ususally wrap, and then heat for ten minutes before my first set. This would give me a chance to see how tight the wrap was, and make any adjustments. Then, I would continue heating for the first ten minutes of the first set. So 20 minutes total in the beginning of the session. Then, no heat for the last ten minutes of the first set.

Then, heat for the first ten minutes of the 2nd set. No heat for the last ten minutes of the 2nd set. I would continue this for the morning sets (the 1st half of my sets). Then, the afternoon sets, I would not use heat at all (the last half of my sets).

>also, where can i get a rice sock? i have no idea what this is. and did you apply it right above the penis on the pubic bone region?<

Very easy if you have a microwave. I used a regular tube sock filled with white rice. About half way, and tied off. Flax seed is also popular. I heated for anywhere from a minute to two minutes, but it depends on how powerful your microwave is.

poke,

>The reason why you applied heat for ten minutes before the first set of the day was to get everything good and warm<

Correct.

>and you did not apply the heat for ten minutes before your subsequent sets (after the first set) because your breaks in between the sets were relatively short as opposed to the long over night break while sleeping?<

Not sure what you mean. I did not apply heat during the breaks between sets, because my unit would get too hot overall. Needed a break. The rice sock can cook you, if you are not careful. You can apply so much heat, that it seems like your unit will shrivel like bacon.

The tissues of the penis are not like a leg or arm. The tissues heat rather quickly because of the size. 103-105 degrees F is not that warm. Not a whole lot above normal body temperature. A rice sock can get VERY hot.

But, if the temperature is controlled, you might heat during your breaks also. Above is simply what I did. Other guys have applied heat during their entire session. However, I do recommend that you use NO heat during at least your last couple of sets to cool down in the extended state.

Just remember, it does not take much time to heat the target tissues, and does not take long to cool down the target tissues because of the size.

Bigger

I like to use a second rice sock (actually a bag made from sewing two square washclothes together) to warm up the bibhanger before using it and between sets.