Temp gains a necessary precondition for perm gains?

I'm a bit disturbed by the fact that I can't measure any temporary expansion during my girth sessions lately. Despite that observation it always subjectively doesn't seem as If i had an ineffective training. Quite often all seems ok or even quite good, i.e. the workout is intense and my dick very full and "engorged". Nonetheless the damn tape says that I have the exact same size as right before the workout.>
What do you guys think? Do you measure regularly while you work out or not? anyone with similar experiences? is temp. expansion really always a valid index for growth or not?
thx in advance.

Depends how long you have been doing it.. If your expecting gains within your first month or two than you might end up disappointed.
Now if you've been doing it for six or more months, and aren't seeing any gains then something might be of concern.
Maybe your not doing it often , maybe your not doing it right..etc

How long have you been at it? What devices do you use, what supplements?
What's your routine..

I've been in the game for quite a while now (1 year with a 3 month break in between) and have seen some good gains (0,5 " in girth and 0,75" in length). So I'm not that unexperienced and I can't complain with respect to the accomplishments I've made so far. The gains always came in discrete leaps, not in a continuous manner. But I guess that's not too unusual. My routine is quite intense, consisting of SSJs, Iso Comp Squeezes and Jelqs (all done fully erect), and performed 4-5 times per week. The problem isn't really located there, I think.
My question is to be understood literally: do you guys always measure temp gains during your girth sessions? And is it always a reliable sign for growth or have you seen growth despite no measurable temp expansion whatsoever? I also ask because there are guys (at least one: Nicamarvin) who claim to gain from wearing a cock ring alone all day long. I wonder if there's any temp. expansion in that case or if it's just the extended time period within which the cock's "engorged".

btw: thx for replying. I don't want to appear as ungrateful, but I'm afraid you just missed my point because of the insufficient info I gave.

I've read that it's good to wear a cock ring in the healing state to retain as much possible of that temp gain.
For example, if you do a Bathmate session and slip on a cock ring after it to keep that pumped up cock for as long as possible.

Yea, that's true. But the interesting aspect seems to be that this guy suspended Penis Enlargementing altogether and still gained due to extended "healing" phases with a cock ring. Here's the link:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ockring-for-gains&highlight=all+day+cock+ring

But that's just an example which should help to clarify the motivation of my questions.

While I would not expect that much of a constriction from a ring that can be worn all day to no ill effect, I have found that more significant constriction for reasonable lengths of time can lead to some surprisingly large temp gains. Perhaps the length of time has led him to experience something similar?
Regardless, I wouldn't worry about your situation. While you may not be measuring temp gains, it sure sounds like you're seeing them.

Thanks, Shen. Yea, I probably shouldn't fuck my mind up with overly excessive measuring. What you said about a noteworthy expansion by a significantly strong constriction seems reasonable. If I'm not mistaken, this would actually resemble a simple Uli which has been proved as a sureshot for many Penis Enlargementrs when it comes to girth enlargement.

Satyr said:

I'm a bit disturbed by the fact that I can't measure any temporary expansion during my girth sessions lately. Despite that observation it always subjectively doesn't seem as If i had an ineffective training. Quite often all seems ok or even quite good, i.e. the workout is intense and my dick very full and "engorged". Nonetheless the damn tape says that I have the exact same size as right before the workout.>
What do you guys think? Do you measure regularly while you work out or not? anyone with similar experiences? is temp. expansion really always a valid index for growth or not?
thx in advance.

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If you are not getting any temporary expansion, it simply means you are not pumping with enough pressure. Buy the mityvac and start pumping at 5hg for a start. This should do it for you.

huge-girth said:

If you are not getting any temporary expansion, it simply means you are not pumping with enough pressure. Buy the mityvac and start pumping at 5hg for a start. This should do it for you.

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Why mess with any pump but the mityvac?