Some People....

Hey Digenius...I haven't damned anyone... Did I say anyone was going to Hell...ME as in ME... Did i say that...Or did I use the Word of God.... it's your decision.... God is real and he does care... I notice you aren't attacking Christ... but me.... isn't it more convenient to attack me as opposed to the Son of God.... Ohhh and about the window closing isn't a damning statment but a warning to my fellow believers, if they pay attention to revlations or Daniel....or Isiah or Ezekiel...whichever they should read....that the Lord is soon to pass judgement....believe it or not the point of the article being posted at all was for you to be able to read it without having to go searching for it.... That way I can't be questioned for it...cause it's not coming from me but men who have spent there lifetimes studying the word and happen to be a good deal more educated on the subject of prophecy and historical realities that fit into what the Word says.... so no I wasn't damning anyone to Hell but encouraging brothers and sisters of Christ to be active in Faith....

Key Kausion, I've read a bit on Mithra, and have found that this pagan belief did not come into public life but to combat the sudden surge of Christianity in the first century.... which many pagan symbols can be found lying within the Catholic Church according to the info I was reading, but this was not so of the first century church as it was not a church as we know it today.... I also found this website about the pyramid.... very interesting.... http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr1.htm and there is another chapter of this book that I will post later.... I am going to study through these further, and I'm going to continue to pursue an answer to the question of Mithra and the zodiac.... I am finding good info. that will answer your question, but I am double checking the sources.... Hold onto your hats this could be very interesting.... I'm learning more about the church than I had ever imagined.... extremely interesting....

All pyramids and Stonehenge, Easter Island and such are all placed in specific locations. They believed their is a web of energy surrounding our planet almost like a grid. Somehow they knew exactly where these lines of energy were and placed all their worship monuments right where they crossed. They called where they cross a vortex and that was the most powerful place to locate them in order to harness this energy web from the sun.

Similiar pyramid like structures were found on Mars as well as a face that almost looks like the Sphinx face. Could be just rocks that look this way for some reason. Or it could be true when the ancients called the advanced society that taught them this knowledge the "gods" (those who came down from another planet).

millionman said:

Hey Digenius...I haven't damned anyone... Did I say anyone was going to Hell...ME as in ME... Did i say that...Or did I use the Word of God.... it's your decision.... God is real and he does care... I notice you aren't attacking Christ... but me.... isn't it more convenient to attack me as opposed to the Son of God.... Ohhh and about the window closing isn't a damning statment but a warning to my fellow believers, if they pay attention to revlations or Daniel....or Isiah or Ezekiel...whichever they should read....that the Lord is soon to pass judgement....believe it or not the point of the article being posted at all was for you to be able to read it without having to go searching for it.... That way I can't be questioned for it...cause it's not coming from me but men who have spent there lifetimes studying the word and happen to be a good deal more educated on the subject of prophecy and historical realities that fit into what the Word says.... so no I wasn't damning anyone to Hell but encouraging brothers and sisters of Christ to be active in Faith....

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Everywhere I read I get the same answers within a year or so. So you are right about this window of opportunity coming soon. Science claims it to be the point where the earth will stop rotating for a few days and then start rotating the opposite way. I guess the religious believe it is judement day.

Ancients predicted the same time frame believing we would advance to a higher knowledge. Knowone knows for sure but from what I read they all say around 2011-2012.

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All pyramids and Stonehenge, Easter Island and such are all placed in specific locations. They believed their is a web of energy surrounding our planet almost like a grid. Somehow they knew exactly where these lines of energy were and placed all their worship monuments right where they crossed. They called where they cross a vortex and that was the most powerful place to locate them in order to harness this energy web from the sun.

Similiar pyramid like structures were found on Mars as well as a face that almost looks like the Sphinx face. Could be just rocks that look this way for some reason. Or it could be true when the ancients called the advanced society that taught them this knowledge the "gods" (those who came down from another planet).

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further reseach has been done on the face on mars, and yeah, turns out its just a rock.

Shithead said:

further reseach has been done on the face on mars, and yeah, turns out its just a rock.

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Thanks for clearing that up.

Interesting looking rock though.

millionman said:

Hey Ghost can you explain that last quote.... I understand it...I think but I'm looking for some clarification... Let me ask you this though... How did we get here??? Were we a cosmic "accident".... And if people can "choose" to go to heaven then why wouldn't all want to go to heaven??? Why would anyone choose to stay on earth, especially with the view of it as a concentration camp??? Yet at the same time the Lord Jesus Christ existed... and performed miraculous things...He revolutionized the world.... For those who are wondering Satan does not hold the same powers/authority of God, they are not equal in anyway.... He is the deceiver and manipulator of this world....He is not omniscient or omnipresent.... He has other "workers" as well as himself.... Without Satan and his minions would we have had mass genocides such as in Nazi Germany, would we have had a power such as the Communist party in Russia that the leadership killed members of their own party and millions of citizens....Who could imagine these things to be possible.... they did not believe it to be possible at the time of their occurances, people were absolutely shocked at these horrors.... satan is very real and you can see him in many things in this world... it's not with rose colored glasses either... There are signs of his work everywhere.... North Korea and the mass murders that take place there.... There is extreme poverty and hunger that possesses the world.... The leaders of the world are not truly seeking the guidance of the Lord for these problems would be getting better and not worse... Yet power mongering and eltisim is a ruling authority...and this is not of the Lord as Christ fed thousands and looked after the poor as exemplified when the Poor man rested in the bosom of abraham and the rich man dwelled in Hell.... The Lord has turned us over to our own devices and sin.... as can be seen through Revelations and also in Ezekiel and Daniel... The last days of Zion.... Ohhh, and K420 The NWO is scriptural as written by Daniel about 4,000 years ago.... So yes you can see these things in God's word as well, and that is one of the ways I have been checking the information I read....

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I just made that quote up,

The strongest controls the world, and the weakest are serpents to the strongest.
And by not excisting I ment, its all in our minds, we all are powerful.
It's just that, people doesn't dare to walk against the strength.
So the strongest and the weakest are the same kind of person, just that the strongest have found out the weak spot.

About who created the world, that is a question never could be answered.

You need life to create life, so you'll end up in a eternal loop.
If god created the world, who created him, and who created him that created him?

We just have to live with the fact, that we shall not find it out.

Things that happened to me is, that you can drop something on the floor, nail, spike, screw or whatever. You can hear it hit the ground, but then it doesnt excist anymore. And will never come back. That is unexplainable to me, and thrust me the whole area were strip-searched.

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Key Kausion, I've read a bit on Mithra, and have found that this pagan belief did not come into public life but to combat the sudden surge of Christianity in the first century.... which many pagan symbols can be found lying within the Catholic Church according to the info I was reading, but this was not so of the first century church as it was not a church as we know it today.... I also found this website about the pyramid.... very interesting.... http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr1.htm and there is another chapter of this book that I will post later.... I am going to study through these further, and I'm going to continue to pursue an answer to the question of Mithra and the zodiac.... I am finding good info. that will answer your question, but I am double checking the sources.... Hold onto your hats this could be very interesting.... I'm learning more about the church than I had ever imagined.... extremely interesting....

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That part about, does evolution run in reverse. It's a shame that wars and struggle for power and knowledge, knowledge is often lost. There are things being found out for mathematics that were lost long ago, but lost parts of information are being found now. Great read thanks for this millionman.

The most interesting part about all of this to me is the fact that there is no other reasonable explanation for the precise mathematic formulas that led to the creation of the great pyramid. This article opened my eyes to new scriptures that I never paid much attention to when I read them. Historically there is a thirty year period when pharoah had all the temples of the gods shhut down, and there are accounts of a shepherd dwelling within Egypt and having intimate contact with him. I had never thought of any of these things, and I'm looking into stone henge, which I believe was a site where a few of the original tribes held rituals and made sacrifices to the Lord. This would have been shortly after Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden, according to a friend of mine who is a bible scholar and historian.

Hey Ghost, the only problem with God needing a creator, is the fact that He is outside of time and space, He is outside of our understanding. That's what makes Him different than other created beings, because He was the creator and architect. The reason the question can be answered is because the Word says it's truth that the Lord created the World in seven days. I've actually got some info about proof of the creation, I'll gather the info, and I'll post it sometime this week, if not today.

millionman, I have one question, this is something I have never understood of Christian beliefs, notice im not trying to be sarcastic or argue or anything, im just asking a question. How and why could God (a perfect being) create an imperfect being such as a human? A being with countless flaws. I've never understood this. Also why would God create an imperfect being then create an evil place (Hell) to send them to when they screwed up?? And why would this all loving being be capable of damning anyone to this evil place? That emerges another question...how can a God made completely of love create Satan, a being completely of hate? That would mean God himself (the creator) would have to have these attributes to be able to pass them onto this evil being....I have never understood these things, could you please clarify them for me. Also so you never answered my question about a fair God revealing himself to some people and not others. The biggest roadblock in religon for me nowadays is reason.

Yes reason can be a stmbling block for many, because there are some things that can not be explained through reason, science, etc. I mean why is there a planet in our solar system that spins in opposite orbit of all other planets??? Can't be explained through natural means.... Anyway, on to your questions.... It's easy to answer by the way.... In Genesis it reads that Adam was created and he indeed was good.... and he pleased the Lord.... Then The Lord saw that Adam was lonely and decided to create a mate...Eve is created from Adam's Rib....ever wonder why women are thorns in our side, cause we're one rib short....sorry I had to say it.... We fell from God's grace because we did not follow one of the two rules He had laid down for us....We ate of the tree of Life....or I should say Adam willingly sinned against God by defying His law and Eve was deceived by the serpent..... Ok, so we were created for companionship with the Lord, because it says that the Lord walked with Adam in the Graden... Ok, Satan also being created was the most beautiful angel of all....the most beautiful creation, and Satan decided He was going to be greater than the creator and he and some of the other angels sought to over throw the kingdom, the battle was quick and decisive.... and the Lord threw Satan down into a dark....fiery pit as it is written.... Because of Satan's arrogance and power lust he could no longer dwell in Heaven where these things can not exist in the presence of the Lord, as the Word says....The Lord does not posess these things enately....but He allowe Us and Satan to make a choice..,,, and this is true... At the same time we were created so that we may give Him praise and Glory by choice, which can also be said for Satan and 1/3 of the angels in Heaven.... Everything else He has created gives Him praise and Glory because they are created to.... We were reated so that we might Bless Him more than those others because it is our free will that we make these decisions.... The Lord is amazing in all things.... We may not be able to explain all these things of the world or why does this and this happen.... but we can know that it is His plan.... I can't explain it any better than this.... I can try though....

The Gods of many religions are perfect examples of conditional love. You'll also find that they are fear-based.

My view on God is simple. We are all divine beings that together form God/universe. But don't ask me how earth and universe was created, because I don't care. Take a look at the beautiful part of this world that we live in (the nature, man, I have to visit Switzerland some day). Good and evil do not exist, since life has more shades than just to extremes. I won't be able to explain why there is war and violence here on earth, it is simply a path some have chosen to take.

Hell as a place to me doesn't exist, I think it's more of a state of mind.. think depressions.

You say conditional love....Yet the Lord is known for giving Himself on the cross...does that sound conditional...He gave of Himself entirely, poured out His blood....We fear the unexplained, but yet the Lord has explained Himself and our reason for existence in His word, so where does fear come into play. Paul speaks of not fearing what men of this world say, for their words have no bearing on who we are in the Lord's eyes as we have eternal salvation through Christ and are dead to Sin and the fear of death... I am not a divine being....could never be...because divinity in the context you are speaking of is other worldly...and we are of this world, cause we're in it...You don't care about how the world was created, yet if you had an idea it would support your ideas about God that much more strongly...Good and evil do exist...otherwise you can not say it is wrong for someone to kill another...or to claim it's not fair...if you are saying it's not fair then there must be a standard of which fairness is assessed. Do good and evil must exist because there have to be opposites for a standard to be created...

Yeah, opposites do exist even while "there are many shades" in life. There are countless examples of opposites or opposing forces and organisms and elements and other things of nature trying to stay at an equillibrium. My question is while we are all trying to do this balancing act what are we doing here now? What is God doing right now? Is he waiting or are we waiting or what? I'm not sure about what I mean I guess. I just don't know what the purpose is of all these things that are happening and have happened, which are unravelling or stringing together a series of events that have either been laid out to occur like in some big scheme of things prophecy or are simply happening because we are all choosing to do the things that are causing the events that happen and that have happened. Whatever all this means with as little as we've actually accomplished and then marvelled at is this just our nature to praise ourselves and indulge in our desires and fawn at our own images? Did everything just get away from us? Or has it always been this much out of whack in terms of how we lead our lives, our people, our societies? I think we have for the most part. It's all fucked up. We've got our time, but how long before we find out whether or not we should've been using that time for something better? That's what I want to know. Most of us are just biding time trying to find something to distract ourselves. The other things like procreating or having a family, and a place to live, and all the stuff that goes with that yeah we've got that part down, but I mean I just feel like we've gotten to the point we've gotten to because of our own inability to answer the questions we know very little if nothing about, yet. So, are we going to find anything on our own that is going to satisfy us or completely enlighten the majoirty of us or no because as much as I love science and respect anyone that is involved with it I can't accept that the universe is going to end? It wouldn't make sense. I mean it's hard for the people that study that stuff to comprehend, but I don't care if the universe is the one thing we will never understand in all its "capacity" as if you can actually use that word in this case, and because of that we can't apply the same rules to it like we can with what we know about our own little planet and lot in the universe. I mean it won't happen according to these guys for shit I don't think my fingers are ready to type that many numbers right now, but still for all this everything to END? What's that about? There's just so much I don't understand, we don't understand, and there's no time. haha God help us for real

God according to the Bible banished Adam and Eve because they took a bit out of an apple.. if God as Christianity depicts it would be one of unconditional love, he would have let them stay and forgive them. I mean, mistakes are there to learn from them.

Nope.... We made the choice... Eve was deceived by the serpent....Adam willingly sinned against God.... Why would the Lord allow sin to dwell in His presence.... He can not allow this because He is righteous and Holy....It's as if you have two glasses of water, one being clean, and one being muddy and full of rocks....you pour the dirty water into the clean water and you have what??? Dirty water...but if you purify the dirty water to make it clean then it can share the presence of the clena water....That's why the Lord came to dwell among us....He died so that we may live and have union with them... It is unconditional Love... the Lord said He would never destroy the world again, as He did during the flood....He sent Christ to bridge the gap between Him and us....So yes He is a God of unconditional love, for He sacrificed a part of Himself on the cross, when He could have let us rot in our own sin and all of us would have been separate from Him for eternity.....

Ok...Iwant8...I feel what you are saying and to help you out check out revelations.... and I can hit you up with some words about what is happening in our world right now that makes it clear to us what and Why God is doing these things.... The whole point of our existence is to praise Him and to do so by choice....He is going to take us to a place in time where no one will be without Christ...after the tirbulation and the seven trumpets are sounded....these things may not make much sense but it is very real....the article I posted earlier in the thread makes it clear to anyone without confusing those who don't understand the word...

Jesus did not die on the cross... why do you think it's called cruciFICTION? Some say it was a hologram, other's say that he was hung in a tree. I think Jesus was the first hippie, kind of a rebel.. he had a wife and kids, and was probably a healer.

BDS said:

Jesus did not die on the cross... why do you think it's called cruciFICTION? Some say it was a hologram, other's say that he was hung in a tree. I think Jesus was the first hippie, kind of a rebel.. he had a wife and kids, and was probably a healer.

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lol

Jesus the hippie, king of the Jews son of God supposeably Jewish, born in Palestine yet looks European. He does look kinda hippie ish from the way he is portrayed in pictures.

millionman said:

Nope.... We made the choice... Eve was deceived by the serpent....Adam willingly sinned against God.... Why would the Lord allow sin to dwell in His presence.... He can not allow this because He is righteous and Holy....It's as if you have two glasses of water, one being clean, and one being muddy and full of rocks....you pour the dirty water into the clean water and you have what??? Dirty water...but if you purify the dirty water to make it clean then it can share the presence of the clena water....That's why the Lord came to dwell among us....He died so that we may live and have union with them... It is unconditional Love... the Lord said He would never destroy the world again, as He did during the flood....He sent Christ to bridge the gap between Him and us....So yes He is a God of unconditional love, for He sacrificed a part of Himself on the cross, when He could have let us rot in our own sin and all of us would have been separate from Him for eternity.....

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God is all-knowing right? So he would have known Adam was going to sin! You can't get around that. If he knew what was to become of us why would he create us and damn 90% of us to hell for the inherent flaws HE CREATED US WITH. Yes we have "free will" but God controls all, and he is the only one that could have created us with this flaw. We were not made perfect..otherwise Adam and Eve would not have sinned. God gave us everythin we are. There are so many flaws in Christian beliefs and the only thing I have ever got in return is "God works in mysterious ways we cannot explain" if you cannot understand it, you are working off blind faith and I do not believe a just God that was going to judge us on whether or not we believed in him would put us in this kind of a mental and spiritual predicament. But thats just my thoughts.