I think this is why my a-stretches feel a bit off tbh coz the skin is sliding over my arm/wrist. I’m tempting to get a phallo san or size genetics but I’m concerned about my foreskin, I’m finding my p.e very frustrating to be completely honest due to this and have started to look inn to the possibility of a foreskin reduction.
 
Stripeee;742298 said:
I think this is why my a-stretches feel a bit off tbh coz the skin is sliding over my arm/wrist. I’m tempting to get a phallo san or size genetics but I’m concerned about my foreskin, I’m finding my p.e very frustrating to be completely honest due to this and have started to look inn to the possibility of a foreskin reduction.

Foreskin will reduce as you can length. You could always get a circ. too is it bothers you too much. The Phalosan and SizeGenetics are very different animals. I would think if you do not want to do any stretching and let the device do it for you go for the Phallosan as it can be worn for hours and hours. The SizeGenetics is awesome too but sessions can only last an hour before needing to take off and bring blood back into the penis. Usually with the SG I would suggest additional hand stretches since time is limited in the SG. With the Phallosan, since there is no limit, I would be more apt to suggest no additional stretches.

Are you concerned with girth at all or are you going only for length?
 
i think a circ is a last resort as it is irreversible, that's why i'm looking to go down the 'wonder weapon' route e.g. devices. it's tricky because i usually do my workouts in one session towards the end of the day after i've been to work so wearing the sg for an hour or so would be ideal/ however i could wear the phallosan during the day and do girth work later on without spending too much time on stretches. also considered buying a length master.

length is the primary goal as i believe girth will be easier to bring up later on
 
Stripeee;742405 said:
i think a circ is a last resort as it is irreversible, that's why i'm looking to go down the 'wonder weapon' route e.g. devices. it's tricky because i usually do my workouts in one session towards the end of the day after i've been to work so wearing the sg for an hour or so would be ideal/ however i could wear the phallosan during the day and do girth work later on without spending too much time on stretches. also considered buying a length master.

length is the primary goal as i believe girth will be easier to bring up later on

Since I own both the SG and the PF, I can give you my experience. I personally like the PF as I sit behind a desk all day and I can also wear it continuously until I have to go take a pee. The SG is harder to hide and does not move with you as well. It is also better if you take it off about every hour or so to restore circulation and readjust your tension. So far I have been able to keep the PF on for 8 to 10 hours a day with my longest was yesterday at 11 hours. Don't get me wrong, the SG is a good device but IMO it is more difficult to wear for long periods of time. The PF is easily concealed under your clothes and once you start moving, bending or sitting it stays in place and does not pinch or bind.
 
Thanks for the reviews! Tbh I am starting to sway towards the phallosan forte. It’s a bit more expensive however like DLD said it can do the work for me during the day when I am obviously unavailable to do manual stretching. Would you also recommend a lengthmaster for when I do manual stuff?

Also are you circumcised or un? And if so does this interfere with the phallosan....thanks
 
Stripeee;742405 said:
i think a circ is a last resort as it is irreversible, that's why i'm looking to go down the 'wonder weapon' route e.g. devices. it's tricky because i usually do my workouts in one session towards the end of the day after i've been to work so wearing the sg for an hour or so would be ideal/ however i could wear the phallosan during the day and do girth work later on without spending too much time on stretches. also considered buying a length master.

length is the primary goal as i believe girth will be easier to bring up later on

Well if you gain enough length the foreskin will reduce by as much as you gain. As the penis becomes longer and the skin it not stretched, through poor grip, the shaft will lengthen while the skin does not and this will deal with it. The LengthMaster is brilliant with this as you can wrap back all skin so when you grab the handle bars you will only be stretching shaft and ligaments with minimal skin stretch. Once the LM is in position and clamped down there is no slippage and you can rest assured that you are stretching pure penis!
 
i think the time has come where by i am unable to precede with just manual stretching. it clearly isn't working as i have made no noticeable length gains in around 10 months, and i don't think it is wise to take drastic action by having some form of circumcision when i could just use a device. i am going to be ordering a length-master tonight i have decided, and probably a phallosan after that.
 
Stripeee;742452 said:
Thanks for the reviews! Tbh I am starting to sway towards the phallosan forte. It’s a bit more expensive however like DLD said it can do the work for me during the day when I am obviously unavailable to do manual stretching. Would you also recommend a lengthmaster for when I do manual stuff?

Also are you circumcised or un? And if so does this interfere with the phallosan....thanks

Hey Strip, I am cut but the PF can be used with either.
 
Stripeee;742540 said:
i think the time has come where by i am unable to precede with just manual stretching. it clearly isn't working as i have made no noticeable length gains in around 10 months, and i don't think it is wise to take drastic action by having some form of circumcision when i could just use a device. i am going to be ordering a length-master tonight i have decided, and probably a phallosan after that.

IMO, you will be making a good decision to buy these 2 items. You may want to start reading the wrapping thread for the LM to get an idea of the different wrapping methods. This is the only learning curve that I have had to deal with. It is getting better but I still have some practice to do with my technique
 
i think it's the next step really as i haven't really made any gains at all through manual work or even with the bath mate. wrapping procedures, didn't consider this i suppose the wrapping fits differently to everyone.
 
Stripeee;742562 said:
i think it's the next step really as i haven't really made any gains at all through manual work or even with the bath mate. wrapping procedures, didn't consider this i suppose the wrapping fits differently to everyone.

increase the intensity, and check out SRT
 
Stripeee;742872 said:
I’ve looked over it a few times actually. Btw how before a lengthmaster is shipped?

They ship with 3-7 days in USA and 7-10 days outside USA.
 
Hey bud , I feel your pain regarding you not gaining in the ten months you have been training but don't worry as I feel it can be rectified. You don't own the lengthmaster yet so what I would suggest is getting some rubber gloves or weight lifting chalk to aid in your grip. From here I suggest a lot of downward stretches as hard as you can and for a duration longer than you are used to.
Some of us need much more intensity than others to gain and I'm one of them. Try to wrap up after each session removing after an hour or so and do a few more downward stretches before putting it back on. When you finally feel that ache at the base of your cock you will know you are on the right path .
Peace bro and stick with it .
 
im not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but certain people (such as myself) only gain when the grip is right below the glans (if you have foreskin pull it back) and use baby powder to get a proper grip.
i have no idea how people make gains without it.
Also, if you really want to bust the plateau, do 2000-2500 straight upward jelqs, with a tight grip, so you're actually pulling the head past it's capacity each jelq. you should try to keep it between 45-65% erect, the elasticity with semi rigid formation really helps push for length gains. but if you're to limp it won't work, and if you're to hard it won't work.
also, the jelqs should be 1 sec, not three.
baby powder, upwards tight semi erect quick jelqs, and doing jelqs before stretching works great, as in jelqs in am, stretching in pm.
 
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beardedbaldy;743253 said:
Hey bud , I feel your pain regarding you not gaining in the ten months you have been training but don't worry as I feel it can be rectified. You don't own the lengthmaster yet so what I would suggest is getting some rubber gloves or weight lifting chalk to aid in your grip. From here I suggest a lot of downward stretches as hard as you can and for a duration longer than you are used to.
Some of us need much more intensity than others to gain and I'm one of them. Try to wrap up after each session removing after an hour or so and do a few more downward stretches before putting it back on. When you finally feel that ache at the base of your cock you will know you are on the right path .
Peace bro and stick with it .

Excellent Advice!
 
jekyllnhyde360;743255 said:
im not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but certain people (such as myself) only gain when the grip is right below the glans (if you have foreskin pull it back) and use baby powder to get a proper grip.
i have no idea how people make gains without it.

The only gains they make stretching like that is skin gains. Always retract when stretching!
 
Yeah it’s definelty frustrating, I’ve started to do lots of downward stretching while I’m waiting for my lengthmaster and I’ve started to change how I pump to, I go in after I’ve done girth work and stretching so I’ve got a nice bit of expansion but my penis is in a kind of relaxed and flaccid state and that’s how I pump. Anyone ever tried pumping when basically flaccid? I get practically 0 fluid retention and my flaccid appears to be a bit longer and thicker.
 
Stripeee;743916 said:
Yeah it’s definelty frustrating, I’ve started to do lots of downward stretching while I’m waiting for my lengthmaster and I’ve started to change how I pump to, I go in after I’ve done girth work and stretching so I’ve got a nice bit of expansion but my penis is in a kind of relaxed and flaccid state and that’s how I pump. Anyone ever tried pumping when basically flaccid? I get practically 0 fluid retention and my flaccid appears to be a bit longer and thicker.

I really hope the LengthMaster changes the game for you! It is an incredible tool. Flaccid BathMate use I have heard from a couple of Brothers with little response on the effectiveness. Please keep good records of this so we will have good data later.
 
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