I've been using the Bathmate 2-3 times per week in the shower for 15-20 minutes. Over the last few weeks I'm seeing more and more burst blood vessels on the shaft of my penis. I'm afraid to keep using the Bathmate as they take days to go away. Any ideas why this is happening now and what I can do so I can use the Bathmate again. Of note I did 50 jelqs this morning in the shower and saw some burst vessels when done. This is driving me nuts!
Problems with burst blood vessels
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I should mention that I always do warm up stretches (usually in bed) before I go in the shower and use the Bathmate. Its worked fine before and I've seen good gains in girth and some in length too. What do you folks recommend also for penis skin care after a workout? I've been using Ives Shea Butter which seems to help heal things. Thanks in advance for any and all help and advice to help resolve my problem.
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These blood vessels aren't an issue, I have them appear all the time when I pump. Often I see red spots. They do go away and become less apparent, perhaps use a condom inside the Bathmate to help with any scraping that might happen while inside the tube, sometimes I notice that gives me vessels to appear.
Thanks Red for the reply. I've been using the Bathmate for over a year and would have this happen occasionly, but not like now to this extent and duration. I'm not sure I like the condom idea to be honest. Wouldn't some type of lube work better? Maybe I just need to take a few weeks off and try again. What do you think? Please let me know, thanks.
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From another thread; I'm a B-I-G ! proponent of extra Vitamin C.
Alright, OP, take a look at this:
From http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/collagen.html
A little long, but, if you take your health seriously altogether valuable.
Read up on; Vitamin C, collagen & bleeding.
And if pith truly believes himself to be comparable to Dr. Linus Pauling....well...let's just say; "Show me your Nobels." (yes: plural)
Roger J. Williams and Linus Pauling on Vitamin C and Collagen
"We have come upon reasons why we require for good health so much larger amounts of vitamin C than are present in the plants we use as food... It has recently been shown by Myllyla and his colleagues that, one molecule of vitamin C is destroyed for each H (hydrogen atom) replaced by OH (during the formation of collagen)... Vitamin C, in the critical reactions that assemble collagen in the tissues, does not serve merely as a catalyst but is destroyed."
Linus Pauling
Linus Pauling HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER (1986) Pages 89-91
The synthesis of collagen, for which vitamin C is essential, proceeds in the body as one of its major manufacturing enterprises. A person who is dying of scurvy stops making this substance, and his body falls apart -- his joints fail, because he can no longer keep the cartilage and tendons strong, his blood vessels break open, his gums ulcerate and his teeth fall out, his immune system deteriorates, and he dies.
Collagen is a protein, one of the thousands of different kinds of proteins in the human body. Most proteins occur in only small amounts: the various enzymes, for example, are so powerful in their ability to cause specific chemical reactions to take place rapidly that only a gram or two or even a few milligrams may be needed in the body. There are a few exceptions. There is a great amount of hemoglobin in red blood cells. There is even more collagen in the skin, bones, teeth, blood vessels, eye, heart, and, in fact, essentially all parts of the body. Collagen as strong white fibers, stronger than steel wire of the same weight, and as yellow elastic networks (called elastin), usually together with macropolysaccharides, constitutes the connective tissue that holds our bodies together.
Like other proteins, collagen consists of polypeptide chains; the long chains of this fibrous molecule contain about one thousand amino-acid residues, about sixteen thousand atoms. It differs from almost all other proteins in being substantially composed of but two amino acids, glycine and hydroxyproline. Collagen is a kind of supermolecule, however, in its three-dimensional architecture. The polypeptide chains of the two amino acids, alternating with one another and punctuated by the presence of certain other amino acids, are coiled in a left-handed helix. Three of these helical strands are twisted around on another, like strands of a rope, in a right handed superhelix, to compose the complete molecule.
Understandably, the synthesis of this structure proceeds in steps. While it has been known for half a century (these words written in 1985) that vitamin C is essential to the manufacture of collagen, the process is only now yielding to inquiry. It appears that vitamin C is involved at every step.
First, a three dimensional stranded structure is assembled, with the amino acids glycine and proline as its principal components. This is not yet collagen but its precursor, procollagen. A recent study shows that vitamin C mucollagen.
The conversion involves a reaction that substitutes a hydroxyl group, OH, for a hydrogen atom, H, in the proline residues st have an important role in its synthesis. Prolonged exposure of cultures of human connective-tissue cells to ascorbate induced an eight-fold increase in the synthesis of collagen with no increase in the rate of synthesis of other proteins (Murad et al., 1981). Since the production of procollagen must precede the production of collagen, vitamin C must have a role in this step -- the formation of the polypeptide chains of procollagen -- along with its better understood role int he conversion of procollagen to at certain points in the polypeptide chains, converting those residues to hydroxyproline. This hydroxylation reaction secures the chains in the triple helix of collagen. The hydroxylation, next, of the residues of the amino acid lysine, transforming them to hydroxylysine, is then needed to permit the cross-linking of the triple helices into the fibers and networks of the tissues.
These hydroxylation reactions are catalyzed by two different enzymes: prolyl-4-hydroxylase and lysyl-hydroxylase. Vitamin C also serves with them in inducing these reactions. It has recently been shown by Myllyla and his colleagues that, in this service, one molecule of vitamin C is destroyed for each H replaced by OH [Myllyla et al., "Ascorbate is Consumed Stoichiometrically in the Uncoupled Reactions Catalyzed by Prolyl-4-Hydroxylase and Lysyl Hydroxylase. Journal of Biological Chemistry 259:5403-5405. 1984]
We have come upon the two big reasons why we require for good health so much larger amounts of vitamin C than are present in the plants we use as food. First, there is the bodies continuing need for the synthesis of large amounts of collagen for growth and for replacement of the collagen degraded by daily wear and tear. Second, vitamin C, in the critical reactions that assemble collagen in the tissues, does not serve merely as a catalyst but is destroyed."
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Roger J. Williams NUTRITION AGAINST DISEASE 1971) Pages 85-86
Vitamin C is essential for the building of collagen, the most abundant protein built in our bodies and the major component of connective tissue.[Wolbach, S. B.., and Howe, P. R. �ntercellular substance in experimental scorbutus" Arch. Path., 1:1, 1926] This connective tissue has structural and supportive functions which are indispensable to heart tissues, to blood vessels, --in fact, to all tissues. Collagen is not only the most abundant protein our bodies, it also occurs in larger amounts than all other proteins put together. It cannot be built without vitamin C. No heart or blood vessel or other organ could possibly perform its functions without collagen. No heart or blood vessel can be maintained in healthy condition without vitamin C. Victims of prison camps who have suffered from vitamin C deficiency have been found to have wide-spread fatty deposits (atherosclerosis) in their arteries. It is quite possible that vitamin C deficiency is directly implicated; it is unlikely that such deposits could have been due to too much fat or cholesterol in diet.
Strong evidence has recently been present that individual needs for vitamin C vary widely, and that some individuals have much higher needs than has hitherto been supposed. While the functioning of vitamin C, except for its role in building collagen, is obscure, it is quite possible that many hearts and blood vessels would be better protected if an abundant environmental supply of this vitamin were available in the circulating fluids that bathe the tissue cells.
Roger J. Williams, Nutrition Against Disease, 1971. Pg 85-86 (paperback)
Last edited by MAXAMEYES; 12-13-11 at 11:08 PM.
Alright, OP, take a look at this:
From http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/collagen.html
A little long, but, if you take your health seriously altogether valuable.
Read up on; Vitamin C, collagen & bleeding.
And if pith truly believes himself to be comparable to Dr. Linus Pauling....well...let's just say; "Show me your Nobels." (yes: plural)
Roger J. Williams and Linus Pauling on Vitamin C and Collagen
"We have come upon reasons why we require for good health so much larger amounts of vitamin C than are present in the plants we use as food... It has recently been shown by Myllyla and his colleagues that, one molecule of vitamin C is destroyed for each H (hydrogen atom) replaced by OH (during the formation of collagen)... Vitamin C, in the critical reactions that assemble collagen in the tissues, does not serve merely as a catalyst but is destroyed."
Linus Pauling
Linus Pauling HOW TO LIVE LONGER AND FEEL BETTER (1986) Pages 89-91
The synthesis of collagen, for which vitamin C is essential, proceeds in the body as one of its major manufacturing enterprises. A person who is dying of scurvy stops making this substance, and his body falls apart -- his joints fail, because he can no longer keep the cartilage and tendons strong, his blood vessels break open, his gums ulcerate and his teeth fall out, his immune system deteriorates, and he dies.
Collagen is a protein, one of the thousands of different kinds of proteins in the human body. Most proteins occur in only small amounts: the various enzymes, for example, are so powerful in their ability to cause specific chemical reactions to take place rapidly that only a gram or two or even a few milligrams may be needed in the body. There are a few exceptions. There is a great amount of hemoglobin in red blood cells. There is even more collagen in the skin, bones, teeth, blood vessels, eye, heart, and, in fact, essentially all parts of the body. Collagen as strong white fibers, stronger than steel wire of the same weight, and as yellow elastic networks (called elastin), usually together with macropolysaccharides, constitutes the connective tissue that holds our bodies together.
Like other proteins, collagen consists of polypeptide chains; the long chains of this fibrous molecule contain about one thousand amino-acid residues, about sixteen thousand atoms. It differs from almost all other proteins in being substantially composed of but two amino acids, glycine and hydroxyproline. Collagen is a kind of supermolecule, however, in its three-dimensional architecture. The polypeptide chains of the two amino acids, alternating with one another and punctuated by the presence of certain other amino acids, are coiled in a left-handed helix. Three of these helical strands are twisted around on another, like strands of a rope, in a right handed superhelix, to compose the complete molecule.
Understandably, the synthesis of this structure proceeds in steps. While it has been known for half a century (these words written in 1985) that vitamin C is essential to the manufacture of collagen, the process is only now yielding to inquiry. It appears that vitamin C is involved at every step.
First, a three dimensional stranded structure is assembled, with the amino acids glycine and proline as its principal components. This is not yet collagen but its precursor, procollagen. A recent study shows that vitamin C mucollagen.
The conversion involves a reaction that substitutes a hydroxyl group, OH, for a hydrogen atom, H, in the proline residues st have an important role in its synthesis. Prolonged exposure of cultures of human connective-tissue cells to ascorbate induced an eight-fold increase in the synthesis of collagen with no increase in the rate of synthesis of other proteins (Murad et al., 1981). Since the production of procollagen must precede the production of collagen, vitamin C must have a role in this step -- the formation of the polypeptide chains of procollagen -- along with its better understood role int he conversion of procollagen to at certain points in the polypeptide chains, converting those residues to hydroxyproline. This hydroxylation reaction secures the chains in the triple helix of collagen. The hydroxylation, next, of the residues of the amino acid lysine, transforming them to hydroxylysine, is then needed to permit the cross-linking of the triple helices into the fibers and networks of the tissues.
These hydroxylation reactions are catalyzed by two different enzymes: prolyl-4-hydroxylase and lysyl-hydroxylase. Vitamin C also serves with them in inducing these reactions. It has recently been shown by Myllyla and his colleagues that, in this service, one molecule of vitamin C is destroyed for each H replaced by OH [Myllyla et al., "Ascorbate is Consumed Stoichiometrically in the Uncoupled Reactions Catalyzed by Prolyl-4-Hydroxylase and Lysyl Hydroxylase. Journal of Biological Chemistry 259:5403-5405. 1984]
We have come upon the two big reasons why we require for good health so much larger amounts of vitamin C than are present in the plants we use as food. First, there is the bodies continuing need for the synthesis of large amounts of collagen for growth and for replacement of the collagen degraded by daily wear and tear. Second, vitamin C, in the critical reactions that assemble collagen in the tissues, does not serve merely as a catalyst but is destroyed."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roger J. Williams NUTRITION AGAINST DISEASE 1971) Pages 85-86
Vitamin C is essential for the building of collagen, the most abundant protein built in our bodies and the major component of connective tissue.[Wolbach, S. B.., and Howe, P. R. �ntercellular substance in experimental scorbutus" Arch. Path., 1:1, 1926] This connective tissue has structural and supportive functions which are indispensable to heart tissues, to blood vessels, --in fact, to all tissues. Collagen is not only the most abundant protein our bodies, it also occurs in larger amounts than all other proteins put together. It cannot be built without vitamin C. No heart or blood vessel or other organ could possibly perform its functions without collagen. No heart or blood vessel can be maintained in healthy condition without vitamin C. Victims of prison camps who have suffered from vitamin C deficiency have been found to have wide-spread fatty deposits (atherosclerosis) in their arteries. It is quite possible that vitamin C deficiency is directly implicated; it is unlikely that such deposits could have been due to too much fat or cholesterol in diet.
Strong evidence has recently been present that individual needs for vitamin C vary widely, and that some individuals have much higher needs than has hitherto been supposed. While the functioning of vitamin C, except for its role in building collagen, is obscure, it is quite possible that many hearts and blood vessels would be better protected if an abundant environmental supply of this vitamin were available in the circulating fluids that bathe the tissue cells.
Roger J. Williams, Nutrition Against Disease, 1971. Pg 85-86 (paperback)
Last edited by MAXAMEYES; 12-13-11 at 11:08 PM.
Max - Thanks for the reply and advice. I take Emergen-C everyday so I do think I have plenty of vitamin C in my system. I'm wondering if waiting another week and then using some type of lubricant on the lower shaft of my penis where is comes in contact with the bellows when using the Bathmate might help out. I really miss using it and seeing the visible difference when doing so. Here's hoping anyways. 
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Extra lubrication could help you out but dont worry too much over the marks. The inside of my groins lately have been redder then beetroot after a session and were VERY sore indeed! Skin started to hang off, it was due to extra size growth and the new skin needed to come from somewhere and so it got sucked in the X-40 due to the additional expansion. It has faded over time and become less and less of an issue.
The vitamin C sounds a really good idea. I use stuff like Crocodile oil and Leech oil after a session, usually in the nighttime with a gentle massage around the testicles. You would be surprised how well Leech oil works for the penis after a session. We do have a good seller linked in the products section somewhere.
The vitamin C sounds a really good idea. I use stuff like Crocodile oil and Leech oil after a session, usually in the nighttime with a gentle massage around the testicles. You would be surprised how well Leech oil works for the penis after a session. We do have a good seller linked in the products section somewhere.
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Ordered 2 bottles of Leech oil, the stuff you reccomended. I can't wait until it arrives, it sounds really promising for pe.
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The Leech Oil is $30 for only 2 ounces! I think I'll pass for now.
On another note, I went to my Dermatologist today to have this skin condition looked at. After having a thorough look at the areas of concern on my penis and scrotum, she said its nothing fungal, more than likely psoriosis. She prescribed a topical steroid cream to use 4 times a day for 2 weeks. If its no better or worse ill need to go back for a skin biopsy (ouch) to determine what it is. No Bathmate for a while longer I guess. Bummer!
On another note, I went to my Dermatologist today to have this skin condition looked at. After having a thorough look at the areas of concern on my penis and scrotum, she said its nothing fungal, more than likely psoriosis. She prescribed a topical steroid cream to use 4 times a day for 2 weeks. If its no better or worse ill need to go back for a skin biopsy (ouch) to determine what it is. No Bathmate for a while longer I guess. Bummer!
I tried using the Bathmate again for the first time in 2 weeks in the shower. I used it for about 15 minutes and did some of the stretches. When I removed the Bathmate, all of the same blood vessels on my penis were burst again. Will I ever be able to use my beloved Bathmate again? Could DLD or anyone who's experienced the same problem please offer some advice? I used to use the Bathmate three times a week for over a year with no problems. I'm stumped on what to do now. Please help, thanks.
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Roger87;468680 said:
I dont know why people still do jelqing its an outdated old school technique which is obsolete and dangerous.
give it a good rest for a few months, not advising you to do this but what i would do is take some omega 3 fish oil for healing purposes, and some whey protein, along with some heat therapy.
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Dick - Thanks for the reply. I think I will just take more time off for now. When I first started my Penis Enlargement journey a few years ago my BPenis EnlargementL was 5" and a Girth of 4". Now I'm at a BPenis EnlargementL of 7" and a Girth of 5+". I was hoping to someday reach my goal of 8 X 6 though I'm not sure that will happen. I am curious why you say jelging is obsolete and dangerous. I've gone from stretches, jelging, traction device and now the Bathmate. Not sure what will get me to my goal at this point.
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