Plateauing and Breaktimes...

iGrowSteady;721961 said:
@kyomoto - @DLD - etc - Always appreciate the feedback guys! As for discoloration, there is definitely a different hue of the shaft that wasn't there before, but it was gradual and not that bad at all. Related to the expressive and bundled stretches, at what point in my routine would include them again? I know you said both but I want to be sure.

Also another famous quick questions of mine... I'm wondering, whether I've plateaued or not, and the thinking is I have, would investing in a BM upgrade from the X30 make sense? I really haven't gotten above my best number, like ever. By no means do I fill it up girth wise but I'm a good bit above the ruler now, but obviously not touching the top. So I'm wondering if I upgrade will I see gains BM wise by using a bigger model?

Thanks guys!
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No problem my Brother. You do not have to upgrade yet if there is still room to grow but once you have reached the level of length or girth being close to max it is time to change.
 
If you have a LM, (sorry I didn't research what PE equipment you own/use) the bundled stretch is very straightforward...I clamp as close to the base as possible and turn the power assist handle like a steering wheel at least 180* and that's it! I take these a step further and while in bundled-formation, I snake the LM behind my cheeks and use my torso to create tension/leverage. I do these clock-wise and counter clock-wise for 5 minutes each then do non-bundled the same way (these would be more like the 'expressive' stretch). Once done, I jump into my BM for 10X3X10X3X10 at max-pressure using my modded X40 and Goliath BM's. I highly encourage you to master the wine-mod...100% game-changer for moi
 
Big Schwanz Acht;722501 said:
If you have a LM, (sorry I didn't research what PE equipment you own/use) the bundled stretch is very straightforward...I clamp as close to the base as possible and turn the power assist handle like a steering wheel at least 180* and that's it! I take these a step further and while in bundled-formation, I snake the LM behind my cheeks and use my torso to create tension/leverage. I do these clock-wise and counter clock-wise for 5 minutes each then do non-bundled the same way (these would be more like the 'expressive' stretch). Once done, I jump into my BM for 10X3X10X3X10 at max-pressure using my modded X40 and Goliath BM's. I highly encourage you to master the wine-mod...100% game-changer for moi
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You are doing my exact girth routine. I can imagine what your temporary expansion looks like.

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iGrowSteady;722470 said:
@huge-girth \ @DLD – My thinking too, but I’ve been at that level for so long I was wondering if I would increase in an upgraded version. It can be a bitch getting that extra pump and I haven’t had luck with the wine vac and the like.
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If you are not seeing mouch improvement in your routine, I suggest you increase the duration
 
iGrowSteady;722470 said:
@huge-girth \ @DLD – My thinking too, but I’ve been at that level for so long I was wondering if I would increase in an upgraded version. It can be a bitch getting that extra pump and I haven’t had luck with the wine vac and the like.
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The HydroMax Extreme models are made for people like me who can not make anything :)
 
iGrowSteady;723350 said:
@Big Schwanz Acht – No sadly I never invested in the LM, but it sounds like your routine certainly kicks your dicks ass PE wise! So it looks like the extended bundle stretches only work with the LM then?

@huge-girth – Are you suggesting to stay in the BM longer? A while back last year I was doing about two sets of twenty-ish minutes a night, now just one set.
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Bundles are most powerful with the LengthMaster but they can be done manually also, just without the same intensity.
 
iGrowSteady;723350 said:
@Big Schwanz Acht – No sadly I never invested in the LM, but it sounds like your routine certainly kicks your dicks ass PE wise! So it looks like the extended bundle stretches only work with the LM then?

@huge-girth – Are you suggesting to stay in the BM longer? A while back last year I was doing about two sets of twenty-ish minutes a night, now just one set.
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Try increasing the vacuum pressure. If you were staying in the bathmate for 5 minutes before try 10 minutes now. There is need for expansion during your girth session, you should be able to see at least half inch expansion after a girth session.
 
I snake the LM behind my cheeks so I can go hands-free with my normal shower-duties...I regulate the stretch via the angle of my torso (I hope I don't lose my balance and rip my junk off, tho lol) Temp girth coming directly out of the cypinder is a tad over 7 1/4"
 
iGrowSteady;723448 said:
@DLD - Great, any port in the storm, or something:} Mind linking the instructions, like I said I had trouble finding them for some reason.

@huge-girth - Oh geeze, then I'll definitely get a tape measure out next time as I'm not sure what I get size wise, though it definitely is bigger.
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I do measure my temporary expansion whenever I'm done with my girth session. But henceforth, I will be measuring with my eyes because I know what a good temporary expansion looks like.
 
huge-girth;723596 said:
I do measure my temporary expansion whenever I'm done with my girth session. But henceforth, I will be measuring with my eyes because I know what a good temporary expansion looks like.
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If you can visually see expansion there is no reason to measure. Measuring after girth is never official but a way to 'see' if expansion is happening. If you can see that you have caused expansion forget measuring.
 
I think you are asking if the length and girth temporary gains are a reflection of future permanent gains? If so, yes, the temporary elongation of expansion will become permanent. But from there it no limit, you will continue to go through the same process of gaining temporary gains and eventually making them permanent.
 
doublelongdaddy;724680 said:
I think you are asking if the length and girth temporary gains are a reflection of future permanent gains? If so, yes, the temporary elongation of expansion will become permanent. But from there it no limit, you will continue to go through the same process of gaining temporary gains and eventually making them permanent.
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Very true. If you can get to the size temporarily then over time you'll become that size permanently because all your cells are working hard to expand and stay in that state. That's why extenders work for people. The longer you stay extended the more permanent you'll get to that size. That's why its crucial to do PE as much as possible. No such thing as over training unless you've had or or begin to injure yourself. This is not skeletal muscle this is smooth muscle and other viscera.
 
kyomoto;724702 said:
Very true. If you can get to the size temporarily then over time you'll become that size permanently because all your cells are working hard to expand and stay in that state. That's why extenders work for people. The longer you stay extended the more permanent you'll get to that size. That's why its crucial to do PE as much as possible. No such thing as over training unless you've had or or begin to injure yourself. This is not skeletal muscle this is smooth muscle and other viscera.
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What is amazing is the fact that we never thought on this until SRT. Healing was something we saw as days off or a reaction to some serious injury. Today we know that healing in PE is as important as gaining. Remaining elongated in an extender after length and using a cock ring after girth both are healing methods that actually benefit growth.
 
iGrowSteady;725192 said:
@DLD – Singing to my choir dude, really… This is a lot of hard work. You know it, I know it, the whole brotherhood knows it! We all come to this for a lot of reasons, but the hopes always remain the same, confidence \ self esteem \ lack of anxiety! Yeah, no pills are going to get you to that magical number, but so many of us are proof positive that the work does pay off, that you can’t deny PE’s existence!

Interesting, that’s what I generally did with the days off, but never thought that the CR is a form of healing… Although I’ve been lucky injury wise, I have had a few recent issues that necessitated some time off.
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That confidence really translates to all parts of our lives Once we see we have done the "seemingly" impossible of enlarging our penis, nothing else is outside of our grasp. Success always starts in the mind and through motivation and hard work success is realized in reality. A big help is seeing ourselves is the place we want to be before we get there. This adds fuel to the fire and allows the mind to help the body get there quicker.

Healing is vital, just as important as gaining. With the proper gain/heal method gains can come very quickly. SRT gives great knowledge in this area.
 
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