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This is a terrible and tragic event. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it on here! Its Norway's worst act of violence since the Second World War.

Background on the story

In a nutshell, some far right wing Christian Freemason fundamentalist with a deep hatred for all Muslims and those that tolerate them (Nations & people alike) murdered over 90 of his own people, many were aged 14-18.

He also wrote a manifesto over 1000 pages in size titled 2083 A European Declaration of Independence.

This guy seems very intelligent and planned this for NINE years and took THREE years to write that manifesto, so he can never claim insanity.

I'm shocked by it. My thoughts, sympathies and prayers go out to Norway, the families and victims of those that monster harmed and killed.
 
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Ye heard alot about it. (denmark norway and sweden tend to see eachother as equals) horrible and insane action. But the sad thing is that the only thing the politics can do with it is to use peoples fear to make a harder and more tight security system. So soon enough we will all be probed when we leave and enter our house..... Just in case we hide a weapon of mass destruction.

Also it was only 64 people. Said the newest count( i have absolutely no idea how they went from 90 to 64. But thats what the latest update said
 
It's very tragic indeed. Why give this guy any more attention than deserved though? And why download his babbling?
 
No one is forcing anyone to download his babble, but why hide it? let it get out in the open for people to see what twisted fuckheads these lot are. Europe will never become racist like other areas towards Muslims, they are always welcome like all other creeds, beliefs and religions.
 
Aimingforthetop;442819 said:
Ye heard alot about it. (denmark norway and sweden tend to see eachother as equals) horrible and insane action. But the sad thing is that the only thing the politics can do with it is to use peoples fear to make a harder and more tight security system. So soon enough we will all be probed when we leave and enter our house..... Just in case we hide a weapon of mass destruction.

Also it was only 64 people. Said the newest count( i have absolutely no idea how they went from 90 to 64. But thats what the latest update said

Yeah you guys are quite close. I heard its in the 70's now which is better then the 90's. This guy doesn't look like he gives a fuck either, his mentality and way of thinking is so warped to the rest of us that he actually thinks that it was okay to do what he did. I also hear the highest sentence allowed in Norway is 21 years and no one can be jailed longer than that!
 
What I find most disturbing is the sheer number of victims this piece of shit killed. If anybody ever deserved the death penalty; it's him.
Sadly, he can only die once and it would be over far too quickly.

One bit of soap box preaching, if you guys'll forgive me: This is an extreme example of where a well-armed, well-trained citizenry could, perhaps, have averted or attenuated the tragedy. I don't know if Norway has anything like our Second Amendment, but I sure as hell support ours.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658995/Norway-shooting-killer-confirms-Gro-Harlem-Brundtland-was-main-target.html



Norway shooting: killer 'confirms Gro Harlem Brundtland was main target'
The man who bombed Norway's capital and gunned down Labour Party youths on an island, killing at least 93, told police he intended to target former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, Oslo newspaper Aftenposten said.

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Brundtland, who led three Labour Party governments in the 1980s and 1990s and is often called "mother of the nation", gave a speech on the island the day of the slaughter and left before Anders Behring Breivik arrived.

"Anders Behring Breivik had plans to come to Utoeya (island) while Gro Harlem Brundtland was visiting on Friday, but claims under interrogation that he was delayed," Aftenposten reported on Monday, citing unnamed sources.

The newspaper said the 32-year-old right-wing fanatic wanted to "hit Gro".

Brundtland, a Harvard-educated physician, has been a champion of social democratic policy approaches worldwide, and served as president of the World Health Organisation from 1998 to 2003.The report said Breivik made the remarks under questioning by police in advance of a court hearing on Monday.

At a 35-minute hearing remand hearing in Oslo, Breivik said the point of his attack had been to stop future recruitment to the Labour Party.

Judge Kim Heger read a statement to reporters where he summarised Breivik's claims. He said: "The object of the attacks was to give a sharp signal to people. The accused acted to induce the greatest possible loss to the Labour Party so that for the future it will limit new recruitment.

"The Labour Party has failed the country and the people and price of their treason is what they had to pay yesterday.

"The operation was not to kill as many innocent people as but to give a signal that could not be misunderstood. As long as the Labour party keeps driving its ideological line and mass importing of Muslims then it must assume responsibility for this treason."

"Any person with a conscience can't allow their country to be colonised by Muslims," he added.
 
[video=youtube;v2VaS54zJVE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2VaS54zJVE&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Not sure how credible but this video seems to tie in with this

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/

Norway Terror Attacks a False Flag

More Than One Shooter on Island; Oslo Bomb Drill Just Concluded; Was It NATO’s Revenge for Norway’s Decision to Stop Bombing Libya?


by Webster Tarpley



Washington DC, July 24, 2011 – The tragic terror attacks in Norway display a number of the telltale signs of a false flag provocation. It is reported that, although the world media are attempting to focus on Anders Behring Breivik as a lone assassin in the tradition of Lee Harvey Oswald, many eyewitnesses agree that a second shooter was active in the massacre at the Utøya summer youth camp outside of Oslo.

It has also come to light that a special police unit had been conducting a drill or exercise in downtown Oslo which involved the detonation of bombs – exactly what caused the bloodshed a few hundred meters away little more than 48 hours later. Further research reveals that United States intelligence agencies had been conducting a large-scale program of recruiting retired Norwegian police officers with the alleged purpose of conducting surveillance inside the country. This program, known as SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units, provided a perfect vehicle for the penetration and subversion of the Norwegian police by NATO.

A motive for the attack is also present: as part of its attempt to mount an independent foreign policy, including the imminent diplomatic recognition of a Palestinian state as part of a general rapprochement with the Arab world, Norway was leading the smaller NATO states in dropping out of the imperialist aggressor coalition currently bombing Libya. Norway was scheduled to stop all bombing and other sorties against the Gaddafi forces as out of August 1 at the latest.

Finally, the CIA limited hangout operation known as Wikileaks has already furnished a prefabricated off-the-shelf case for incompetence and malfeasance against the current Norwegian government that is doing all these things – in the form of a series of real or doctored dispatches which document the alleged negligence of this government in dealing with the terrorist threat, all in the view of US State Department officials.
VG of Oslo: “Several” Eyewitnesses Say there were Two Shooters on the Island



As noted, world press and media of the Anglo-American school have immediately battened onto Breivik as an archetypal lone assassin cast in the mold of Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, and so many others. The problem for the terror mythographs is that , in most of these cases, there is credible to overwhelming evidence that these figures could not have acted alone. Among more recent loan assassins, Breivik could be compared to

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Norway Terror Attacks a False Flag
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More Than One Shooter on Island; Oslo Bomb Drill Just Concluded; Was It NATO’s Revenge for Norway’s Decision to Stop Bombing Libya?


by Webster Tarpley



Washington DC, July 24, 2011 – The tragic terror attacks in Norway display a number of the telltale signs of a false flag provocation. It is reported that, although the world media are attempting to focus on Anders Behring Breivik as a lone assassin in the tradition of Lee Harvey Oswald, many eyewitnesses agree that a second shooter was active in the massacre at the Utøya summer youth camp outside of Oslo.

It has also come to light that a special police unit had been conducting a drill or exercise in downtown Oslo which involved the detonation of bombs – exactly what caused the bloodshed a few hundred meters away little more than 48 hours later. Further research reveals that United States intelligence agencies had been conducting a large-scale program of recruiting retired Norwegian police officers with the alleged purpose of conducting surveillance inside the country. This program, known as SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units, provided a perfect vehicle for the penetration and subversion of the Norwegian police by NATO.

A motive for the attack is also present: as part of its attempt to mount an independent foreign policy, including the imminent diplomatic recognition of a Palestinian state as part of a general rapprochement with the Arab world, Norway was leading the smaller NATO states in dropping out of the imperialist aggressor coalition currently bombing Libya. Norway was scheduled to stop all bombing and other sorties against the Gaddafi forces as out of August 1 at the latest.

Finally, the CIA limited hangout operation known as Wikileaks has already furnished a prefabricated off-the-shelf case for incompetence and malfeasance against the current Norwegian government that is doing all these things – in the form of a series of real or doctored dispatches which document the alleged negligence of this government in dealing with the terrorist threat, all in the view of US State Department officials.
VG of Oslo: “Several” Eyewitnesses Say there were Two Shooters on the Island



As noted, world press and media of the Anglo-American school have immediately battened onto Breivik as an archetypal lone assassin cast in the mold of Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, and so many others. The problem for the terror mythographs is that , in most of these cases, there is credible to overwhelming evidence that these figures could not have acted alone. Among more recent loan assassins, Breivik could be compared to Major Nidal Hasan of Fort Hood, Texas, whose shooting spree dates back to November 2009. Hasan is accused of having killed seven people. At the time, it was considered remarkable that Hasan had managed to kill so many armed soldiers on the military base. But early reports suggested that there were one or two other shooters in addition to Hasan. As usually happens, these extra shooters were soon expunged from the hegemonic media narrative.1

In the Norwegian case, the evidence that Breivik was not alone in claiming his fearful toll of victims is clear and convincing. Here are some excerpts from a report published by the Oslo newspaper VG:

“Several of the youths who were at the Utøya the shooting drama, told VG that they are convinced that there must have been more than one perpetrator. Marius Helander Røset believes the same thing: – I am sure that there was shooting from two different places on the island at the same time, he said.

Witnesses: – There were two people



Police believe Anders Behring Breivik (32) is the perpetrator who was dressed as a policeman , and have charged him for two terrorist attacks. Young people interviewed by VG describe an additional perpetrator – who was not wearing a police uniform. The person was following them around was 180 centimeters tall, had thick dark hair and a Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back. – I believe that there were two people who were shooting, says Alexander Stavdal (23)….

At the press conference Saturday morning opened the police said that there could have been several perpetrators and emphasized that there is an ongoing investigation.”2

The presence of a second shooter is of course most inconvenient for the lone assassin theory, since it represents incontrovertible evidence of a criminal conspiracy, the very thing which the media coverage is usually anxious to avoid. In the Norwegian case, the reports of a second shooter seemed to be persistent enough 36 hours after the main event so as to hold out some hope that the entire official version can be brought down on this particular.

Police Had Drilled Setting off Bombs in Same Area a Few Days Earlier

Another telltale critical sign of a false flag operation is the holding of drills or exercises –allegedly for counterterrorism purposes — by the police or the military at the same time as the terror attack, or shortly before the real terror attack begins. Sometimes, the terror drills or exercises are scheduled to begin slightly after the time when the actual terror attack occurs. In these cases, it is often discovered that the self-styled anti-terror drill or exercise contains a simulated action or event which strongly resembles the real world terror attack, the one which actually kills people. The media will then refer to an astounding coincidence or a weird happenstance, but the reality is that the terror drill has been taken live or flipped live in the form of real killings. The secret is that the legally sanctioned drill has been used to conduit or bootleg the actual butchery through a government bureaucracy whose resources are required to run the terror but in which there are many officials who cannot be allowed to know what is happening.

The Norway events provide a very clear illustration of this principle. In Oslo, a powerful bomb went off in or near the building which houses the office of the Prime Minister. Exactly as we would expect, special anti-terror police had been drilling setting off bombs in a nearby part of the Norwegian capital little more than 48 hours earlier. The public had not been informed in advance, but found out what was happening when they began hearing bombs on Tuesday and Wednesday, whereas the main bomb went off on Friday. Here is a report from the newspaper Aftenposten:

“Armed police were seen in the area around the opera house in Oslo, and violent explosions could be heard over large parts of the city. No one knew that this was all a matter of practice. The Information Section of the Oslo police deeply regrets that the public was not made aware of the seemingly dramatic exercise….It was the emergency squad, the national police special unit against terrorism, which was conducting a drill in the cordoned off area at Bjørvika pier. According to a press release from the police, nearly a day after the exercise, the drill consisted of training in the controlled detonation of explosive charges….The exercise will continue for the rest of Wednesday night and a few more explosions are expected….The exercise followed a familiar pattern for all anti-terror forces around the world: The men lowered themselves down from the ceiling and into through the window that had just been blown out, while they fired hand their weapons.”3

Peter Power of Visor Consultants told BBC Radio Five in the wake of the London subway bombings of July 7, 2005 that his firm had been conducting an exercise based on explosions going off in substantially the same stations of the London underground at the same times when the real explosions had actually occurred. The Norwegian events exhibit the same kind of strange coincidence.

A Motive: Norway Had Decided to Stop Bombing Libya August 1



The targets of the Norwegian terror attacks are all expressly political, including government offices and a summer youth camp of the ruling Labor Party, and thus point in the direction of politics. The government of Norway is currently a coalition composed of the Labor Party, the Socialist Left Party, and the Center Party. Norway has traditionally attempted to cultivate a pro-Arab foreign policy, as seen in its sponsorship of the Oslo peace accords between Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in the mid-1990s. The current government has announced its intention of granting diplomatic recognition to a Palestinian state in the near future. When the destabilization of Libya began last February, the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre of the Labor Party warned Norway’s partners in the NATO alliance against getting involved.

But soon after this, Norway gave in to US pressure and agreed to participate in NATO’s bombing of Libya for an initial period of three months, sending six planes which have carried out an estimated 10% of all the bombing raids mounted by the Atlantic alliance. However, as the end of its three-month commitment had passed, Norway had reduced its contingent to four planes during the month of July, and had announced on June 10 that it was planning to withdraw altogether from the NATO bombing coalition no later than August 1.

The Norwegian decision to drop out of the NATO attack coalition was associated with a similar move by the Netherlands, which was announced on that same day of June 10. The Dutch had decided to maintain their contingent of six planes, but will no longer take part in bombing attacks on ground targets. Henceforth, the Dutch are willing only to help enforce the no-fly zone through air interdiction. There was therefore the potential that Norway’s example could trigger a general tendency by the smaller NATO states to quit the bombing coalition, in which their collective presence is highly significant.

Leading figures of the Norwegian government were among the first to undercut the supposed rationale for the NATO bombing, while urging negotiations: ‘”The solution to the problems in Libya are political, they cannot be solved by military means alone,” Norwegian Prime Minister Stoltenberg told reporters gathered for a conference in Oslo on May 13. “We are very much supporting all efforts to find a political solution to the challenges we are facing in Libya,” he added. Norway’s government …pledged to scale down its role in NATO-orchestrated air strikes on Libya after its current three-month commitment ends on June 24.4

This was the policy of the entire Norwegian government: ‘Norway will scale down its fighter jet contribution in Libya from six to four planes and withdraw completely from the NATO-led operation by Aug. 1, the government said Friday…. Defense Minister Grete Faremo said she expects understanding from NATO allies because Norway has a small air force and cannot “maintain a large fighter jet contribution during a long time.” Norway’s air force, meanwhile says its F-16 jets have carried out about 10 percent of the NATO airstrikes in Libya since March 31. The parties in Norway’s center-left coalition government had been at odds over whether to extend the country’s participation, which was scheduled to expire June 24. The most leftist faction in the government, the Socialist Left Party, opposed an extension, but a compromise was reached to stay in the operation until Aug. 1 with fewer planes. “It is wise to end the Norwegian fighter jet contribution. Now Norway should apply its efforts to find a peaceful solution in Libya,” Socialist Left Party lawmaker Baard Vegar Solhjell said.’5
State Department Complained of Norway’s “Lack of Commitment” to Libyan Adventure



The Norwegian decision to stop waging war against Libya, the first of its kind by any member of the Atlantic alliance, has attracted the attention of diplomatic observers, one of whom commented that the current government in Oslo has advocated “a distinctly more peaceful approach to global policies by the Norwegian government…. [despite] recent pressure from the US on Norway to contribute more in Libya military campaign. Norway has been resisting that pressure and pushing for a more peaceful approach to the US-led NATO attacks on Libya and refused to provide weapons to NATO, finally announcing last month that Norway would quit its military role in Libya by August 1. In March, as the US was rallying unilateral support to invade Libya, Norway’s minister of foreign affairs Jonas Gahr Støre was one of the few nations to warn the US against armed intervention in Libya. Norway initially supplied six fighter jets for Libya operations and has carried out about 10% of the Libya strikes since 19 March. However, US officials singled out Norway and Denmark for their ‘lack of commitment’ to the mission to oust Gaddafi… Other Norway-Libya links include Norway’s major oil- and fertilizer-related interests in Libya: the Norwegian state-owned Statoil, which has about 30 employees at its Tripoli offices….[Norway’s] businesses have conducted major business operations in Libya, in co-operation with Qaddafi’s regime.”6

At the present stage of the inquiry, the best estimate of a motive for the Norwegian attacks is to punish the country for its independent and pro-Arab foreign policy in general, and for its repudiation of the NATO bombing coalition arrayed against Libya in particular.
Are SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units the New Gladio for Norway?



US and NATO intelligence have been shown to possess extraordinary capabilities inside Norway, many of which may be operating outside of the control of the Norwegian government. In early November 2010, the Oslo television channel TV2 exposed the existence of an extensive network of paid assets and informants of US intelligence recruited from the ranks of retired police and other officials. The ostensible goal of this program was the surveillance of Norwegians who were taking part in demonstrations and other activities critical of the United States and its policies. One of the Norwegians recruited was the former chief of the anti-terror section of the Oslo police.7 Although the goal was supposedly merely surveillance, it is possible to imagine some other and far more sinister activities that could be carried out by such a network of retired cops, including the identification and subversion of rotten apples on the active-duty police force. Some of the capabilities of a network of this type would not be totally alien to the sort of events that have just occurred in Norway.

The official name for the type of espionage cell which the United States was creating in Norway is Surveillance Detection Unit (SDU). The SDUs in turn operate within the framework of the Security Incident Management Analysis System (SIMAS). SIMAS is known to be used for spying and surveillance by US Embassies not just in the Nordic bloc of Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, but worldwide. The terror events also raise the question of whether SIMAS has an operational dimension. Could this apparatus represents a modern version of the Cold War stay behind networks set up in all NATO countries and best-known under the name of the Italian branch, Gladio?

The Norwegian government needs to find out. Thus far Norwegian ministers have asserted that they never approved the SIMAS network of SDUs. “We never knew about it,” claimed Norway’s Justice Minister Knut Storberget and Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in chorus. Hillary Clinton stated instead that the Norwegians had been informed.
CIA’s Wikileaks Limited Hangout Has Rationale for Toppling Norway’s Government



Thanks to document dumps by the CIA limited hangout subsidiary generally known as Wikileaks, an obvious path for using the Norwegian terror attacks as a rationale for overthrowing the current government has already been provided. Real or doctored State Department cables obligingly made available by Wikileaks portray the Norwegian government which NATO hates as a collection of bunglers and misfits, unable to take effective measures to safeguard the national security of the country.

Some of these tables have been published in the immediate wake of the terror attacks by the London Daily Telegraph, a newspaper reputedly close to NATO intelligence circles. According to this article, while ‘talking about an attempt by the Police Security Service (PST) to track one particular suspected Al Qaeda terror cell, a cable written by the US Ambassador to Norway, Barry White, describes [how Norwegian authorities] … refused the help of the UK authorities to put surveillance on a potential suspect and adds: “Not only will they not put their own resources on him…but they also just turned down the visiting UK intel service’s offer of two twelve-person surveillance teams.” The cable goes on to say the UK and US intelligence services analyzed coded conversation between terror suspects and decided it warranted surveillance. But, says the cable, “PST instead found a way to interpret the same translated coded conversation in a rosier, less threatening light, an interpretation which makes little sense to the US or UK.”’ A catalog of even the most recent failures and fiascos of the FBI and the CIA in the so-called Global War on Terror would help to put these hypocritical judgments into proper perspective, but it would also be too voluminous to be appended here.

Another damaging particular appears made to order for an attempt to blame the alleged bungling of the Norwegian government for the Oslo bomb attack: ‘The memo also reveals how, despite apparently having surveillance on the suspect, the PST lost track of bomb-making equipment which was being stored in an apartment after it was apparently removed without investigators’ noticing. The PST then failed to track one suspect for 14 days because the investigator assigned to him was called away on another job. The memo concludes: “The PST is in over its head…it simply cannot keep up.”’

Another State Department memo dished up by Wikileaks, supposedly written in 2007… adds: “The official police (PST) threat evaluation…states that international terror organizations are not a direct threat against Norway. A memo written in 2008 shows how the US felt that Norway was not awake to the possibility of a potential terrorist attack. The cable reads: “We repeatedly press Norwegian authorities to take terrorism seriously. We will seek to build on this momentum to fight the still-prevalent feeling that terrorism happens elsewhere, not in peaceful Norway.” And a cable written just last year adds: “The PST still viewed Denmark as more of a target than Norway, for reasons very specific to the cartoon controversy.” 8

The government of Norway needs to go on the offensive and establish the whole truth of what has just occurred. Otherwise, that government is likely to succumb to the internationally orchestrated campaign which the Wikileaks documents so clearly foreshadow.
 
What most bothers me is that he'll sit in 21 years max., and probably only the half of it if he proves that he's mentally ill. That son of a bitch killed nearly 100 people and the government does what?! I have the feeling that in the upcoming years we well see more similar scenarios, just because that motherfucker proved the world that the system can't do shit to protect their people. Don't get me wrong, I love Norway and I really believe that the system is very friendly to the people, but there should be hard laws against people who endanger it (terrorists). What are 21 years?...
 
Shouldn't matter if he's mentally ill...duh, he IS mentally ill...so. Fuckn sad, I heard more like 90+ people died because more died in the hospital and the bombing killed some people. I only saw a short clip on the news, I didn't know it was like this. How grotesque. I wish killing him brought some of the loved ones back, but the only thing that can be done is to use him as an example to show other people what we would do if they try this kind of shit again. No matter what we do they will keep appearing. I hate it.
 
I'm finding it quite interesting in stateside media anyway, that there is little to no mention of his anti Muslim motivations by the media.
 
Turnover,
Yes of course he is mentally ill, but if you prove in court that you are "insane" you may have to spend less if any time in prison. Instead you would go to a special institution, which is by far not as bad as jail... What makes me sick is that there are lawyers out there who are willing to defend such people (for the money I guess...). Imo there isn't space on this planet for insane people who kill other humans for their obsession and beliefs, in a biological point of view these people actively endanger the existence of our race, so they should be all executed without even thinking about it. There was no reason for this terror attack, neither was it for the benefit of somebody. Besides of that a lot of people (kids) died who were not Muslim; so even for his terms innocent. I say kill that motherfucker...
 
I always find it funny how these crazy shooters find them selves meeting with wealthy business interest. Must be some kind of mass delusion by the shooters.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/25/scotland-yard-gunman-mentor-uk

Scotland Yard called in over Breivik's claims he met 'mentor' in UK

Europol ask for information because gunman wrote of visiting London for secret far-right gathering in 2002

Police attempting to piece together Anders Behring Breivik's links to far-right groups in the UK and Europe have written to Scotland Yard asking for more officers to help with the investigation.

A specialist unit has been set up in The Hague to trawl through a database of known high-risk, rightwing extremists and assist the Norwegian police as they examine evidence from Breivik's 1,500-page "manifesto" published online hours before he launched one of the worst mass killings in peacetime Europe.

Rob Wainwright, director of Europol, told the Guardian he had written to the Metropolitan police's new head of counter-terrorism, Cressida Dick, asking for more officers from Scotland Yard after Breivik boasted of his links to far-right groups in the UK.

"What we've seen is an active extremist scene across European countries, including the UK," said Wainwright. "There are some signs the extreme right have been more active, especially on the internet. They are more sophisticated and using social media to attract younger people."

There are up to 50 officers already assigned to the specialist unit in The Hague, including a small number of detectives from the UK.

Breivik's alleged links to the UK emerged in his manifesto, which details his years of meticulous planning prior to Friday's attacks. The document was signed "Andrew Berwick" (an anglicised version of his name), written entirely in English, and datelined "London, 2011" – although security services and police say there is no further evidence at this stage to suggest it was written in the UK.

In the manuscript Breivik describes his "mentor" as an EnglisHydromaxan he identifies as "Richard", and says his journey into violent extremism began at a small meeting in London in 2002 where a group of like-minded extremists met to "reform" the Knights Templar Europe, a military group whose purpose was "to seize political and military control of western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda".

The group's name is a reference to the medieval Christian military order involved in the Crusades. It has no connection to the Knights Templar International, a long-established organisation aiming to build "bridges throughout the world for peace and understanding", and which has issued a statement deploring Breivik's "senseless acts of terrorism".

In his manifesto Breivik said the gathering in London was "not a stereotypical 'rightwing' meeting full of underprivileged, racist skinheads with a short temper". Instead, he claimed those present were successful entrepreneurs, "business or political leaders, some with families, most Christian conservatives, but also some agnostics and even atheists".

Breivik said the handful of far-right activists had travelled to London from across Europe, and most had not met each other before. He did not name those present, but claims two of them, including the host, were English, as well as one French, one German, one Dutch, one Greek, one Russian and one Serbian. "They obviously wanted resourceful, pragmatical [sic] individuals who were able to keep information away from their loved ones and who were not in any way flagged by their governments."

At 23 years old, Breivik says he was the youngest person at the meeting, and had first been put in contact with others in the group by a "Serbian crusader commander".

At the end of the sessions, he says, he was "ordinated as the 8th justicar knight for the PCCTS, Knights Templar Europe" – the name he uses to sign off the last entry in his diary before carrying out Friday's attacks.

It was at this meeting that he also claims to have struck up his friendship with his mentor. Breivik says he and "Richard", who took the pseudonym in reference to Richard the Lionheart, had a "relatively close relationship".

According to the document, the meeting in London was followed by two larger events held in "Balticum", which attracted people from all over Europe. He says there was a high level of security at the gatherings, adding that those attending were told not to communicate to people outside.

"Some of us were unfamiliar with each other beforehand, so I guess we all took a high-risk meeting face to face … electronic or telephonic communication was completely prohibited, before, during and after the meetings. On our last meeting it was emphasised clearly that we cut off contact indefinitely. Any type of contact with other cells was strictly prohibited."

Breivik also boasted about links to the UK far-right group the English Defence League. He mentioned them several times in the manifesto and claimed he had "spoken with tens of EDL supporters and leaders … [supplying] them with processed ideological material (including rhetorical strategies) in the very beginning."

The EDL – which has staged a series of street demonstrations, many of which have turned violent, since it was formed two years ago – issued a statement on Sunday condemning the killings and denying any links with Breivik. It added that the league was a peaceful organisation which rejected all forms of extremism.

Stephen Lennon, the founder of the English Defence League, told Newsnight on Monday night that attacks like those perpetrated in Norway could happen in the UK in the coming years.

"God forbid this ever happens on British soil. It's a time coming. It's probably five or 10 years away," he told Jeremy Paxman during a studio discussion. "It's not a threat, it's a wake-up call. It's a wake-up call to say: Listen, we don't want this to happen. We don't want this to happen."

Breivik may have attended a far right demonstration in the UK as recently as last year, according to an online post from one of its supporters reported previously in the Guardian. "ar one or two doubt the rest of us ever met him, altho he did come over for one of our demo in 2010 … but what he did was wrong," said the activist in an EDL forum.

Norwegian supporters have taken part in several EDL demonstrations over the past year but it is unclear at this stage whether Breivik was among them.

It also emerged on Monday that Breivik made contact with EDL supporters for the last time as recently as March, just before he holed up on a remote farm to begin his final preparations for an Friday's attack.

In the closed court hearing on Monday, Breivik claimed he belonged to an organisation with two more cells that remain at large, although he did not give more details. Wainwright, the Europol director, said police were working flat-out to try to establish whether Breivik had help from far-right groups and activists in the UK and across Europe.

"We're pursuing a number of lines of inquiry. It is difficult to tell if he had active support from outside Norway," he said.
 
As the law stands in Norway now, he would have to be cited as Insane to get life unless the government change the law so he gets life in prison. The guy says he is prepared to serve life.

My take is not to execute him, nah that's too good for him and why should he have the escape? he would want that and does not fear death but what he FEARS is Muslims, he hates them so my punisHydromaxent is stick his ass in a prison with the worst nastiest brutal Islamic prisoners one can find for L I F E and he will have a life of misery with what he hates and they will welcome him :) NOT.

I like all religions and this freak aint going to fuck up anything. No conspiracies, this guy is a fucking sad head case. Norway is strong and will rise above it, afterall the Vikings came from Norway.

My prayers go out to Norway, the people are very fair and reasonable ... terrible what has happened and what makes it more sick for myself being a Brit is he says to have been to the UK and has connections with far right scum in England. They wont unsettle the UK and will be strung up from the nearest lamp-post if they ever started that shit here.

He also has completely disrespected the Templar Knights in his manifesto, the arsewipe worshipped them but took it upon himself (as they do) to twist it with his own ideology ... the crusades were LONG AGO when the world was more archaic in its thinking and based much of it from religion then using free thinking like today ... this guy is NO Knight because the true knights were actual soldiers who honoured and fought for the country, not some dilluded sick twisted plan like this savage.
 
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