I heard somewhere that a naturally beigger cock could mean your gay. if u get a lot of testosterone in the womb, not only does it grow bigger, it wires your brain to what will arrouse u (testosterone when your 3 months or younger in the womb directly effects your sex, so even if you get the xy chromosome which would mean your a guy, if there's no testosterone you'll be born a girl that's why some people have the whole "man trapped in a woman's body" thing)

ok that last part got off topic but
testosterone in the womb = penis
too much testosterone = bigger penis and homosexuality

just something i heard, and of course it's not the case with everyone, but I can't help thinking that the reason some big ���� stars have trouble maintaining erection ISN'T because it's too big, but they're actually gay :O
 
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pimpinlilchris said:
I heard somewhere that a naturally beigger cock could mean your gay. if u get a lot of testosterone in the womb, not only does it grow bigger, it wires your brain to what will arrouse u (testosterone when your 3 months or younger in the womb directly effects your sex, so even if you get the xy chromosome which would mean your a guy, if there's no testosterone you'll be born a girl that's why some people have the whole "man trapped in a woman's body" thing)

ok that last part got off topic but
testosterone in the womb = penis
too much testosterone = bigger penis and homosexuality

just something i heard, and of course it's not the case with everyone, but I can't help thinking that the reason some big ���� stars have trouble maintaining erection ISN'T because it's too big, but they're actually gay :O

Hmm, that's an interesting theory. I guess the transgendered people will be the next highly debated minority. There aren't that mainly of them. Most of them are men who became women as oppossed to the other way around. Showtime aired a special with a guy named Renee who was a female to male and you wouldn't be able to tell he still had a vagina by looking at him. Real muscular and had a fairly masculine voice. At the end they should him getting his final surgery to become a man. The penis he got looked sort of like a real one but it functioned like a normal one minus the semen. One of the doctors said that in the future it might be possible for people like Renee to be have children. Gender will have reached a new meaning on that day.
 
Uh-Oh said:
Hmm, that's an interesting theory. I guess the transgendered people will be the next highly debated minority. There aren't that mainly of them. Most of them are men who became women as oppossed to the other way around. Showtime aired a special with a guy named Renee who was a female to male and you wouldn't be able to tell he still had a vagina by looking at him. Real muscular and had a fairly masculine voice. At the end they should him getting his final surgery to become a man. The penis he got looked sort of like a real one but it functioned like a normal one minus the semen. One of the doctors said that in the future it might be possible for people like Renee to be have children. Gender will have reached a new meaning on that day.

yea I heard it is much easier to go from female to male, the testosterone they give em pretty much makes everything more masculine

male to female could end up ok, but most of the transexuals that go male to female end up commiting suicide. there's a lot more procedures too to make a guy more feminine. a lot of work.
 
That's just my point, why feel the need to comment it? I once read a book about self confidence and it said that people with high self confidence never ever even try to "explain themselves" like that since they don't care what other people think.
I'm not saying that I myself have high confidence but since I know how extremely insecure it sounds I never try to proove myself.

I know that straight guys think that seeming gay is a weakness, however I know straight guys (fruit flies, if you will) who are comfortable enough with theirselves and their sexuality to hang out with gay guys, hug them, going to gay bars and so on without having the slightest sexual attraction to guys. I think that is really cool. :)

I also want to say that I have nothing against homophobes either, we are all human and we fear what we don't know, it's just as simple as that.
 
pimpinlilchris said:
I heard somewhere that a naturally beigger cock could mean your gay. if u get a lot of testosterone in the womb, not only does it grow bigger, it wires your brain to what will arrouse u (testosterone when your 3 months or younger in the womb directly effects your sex, so even if you get the xy chromosome which would mean your a guy, if there's no testosterone you'll be born a girl that's why some people have the whole "man trapped in a woman's body" thing)

ok that last part got off topic but
testosterone in the womb = penis
too much testosterone = bigger penis and homosexuality

just something i heard, and of course it's not the case with everyone, but I can't help thinking that the reason some big ���� stars have trouble maintaining erection ISN'T because it's too big, but they're actually gay :O

lol I wish that this was the case for me too then... ;)
 
philadelph said:
Most of the time homosexuality stems from issues with your father.

Hm, I really should start up a new thread about homosexuality..

One could think that it has something to do with "issues" with one's father, but I know lots of gay guys who have a perfectly normal relationship with theirs.
 
philadelph said:
Most of the time homosexuality stems from issues with your father.

Sorry phily, but I think that's definately an over-generalized statement. I don't believe that homosexuality is a learned trait in most cases...I think there is a "gay gene" which predisposes persons to becoming homosexuals.
 
oopapercutoo said:
Sorry phily, but I think that's definately an over-generalized statement. I don't believe that homosexuality is a learned trait in most cases...I think there is a "gay gene" which predisposes persons to becoming homosexuals.
yea but if gay's don't reproduce wouldn't the gay gene of disappearred u think?
 
Very interesting, cant they make a study to show who get straight, gay or bi?
People who likes the same sex as themselves, do they have that special thing that...
If you be a man, and you get female hormones in a certain amount, does that make you gay then? And vise versa?
Because i have never known why people become what they become, i myself like women over anything else, but why is that? :p

And when looking at the pictures of mens penises, that makes me think im small... really small and i feel bad about myself. Im like dld on that.
 
GhosT_DoGG said:
Very interesting, cant they make a study to show who get straight, gay or bi?
People who likes the same sex as themselves, do they have that special thing that...
If you be a man, and you get female hormones in a certain amount, does that make you gay then? And vise versa?
Because i have never known why people become what they become, i myself like women over anything else, but why is that? :p
I don't know about the test thing, but hormones don't make u gay or straight, actually they do, it's wired into your brain at an early age what u get aroused by. not sure if this is the case all the time, but I'll try to explain what i know a little better:

there are chromosomes, sure u all know x and y. the girl always gives the x chromosome, and the male can either give the x or y chromosome, then they match up

xy=guy
xx=girl

when everyone is just starting to develop in the womb, everybody starts out a girl ( :O ) up til about 3 months.

then, if u got the y chromosome from dad, testosterone will be produced and given to u, this is what shuts down your female organs, and grows the penis and the testes.
 
now what if u get the xx chromosomes, but u still get testosterone in the womb? you'll be born with the penis and testes, and the testosterone, but you'll really be a girl on the inside (girl trapped in man's body)

it can happen the other way too, you get the xy chromosome but no testosterone, so the penis will never of developed, you'll be stuck with female stuff, but you'll really be a guy on the inside (guy trapped in woman's body)

and finally if you are given too much tesosterone in there, the penis will grow bigger than it should, and your brain will be wired differently and you'll be attracted to guys.


all of that was from some late late radio show when they had a doctor who studied transexuals and stuff, but I'm sure it's true, kinda confusing, but hey noone ever said the human body would be simple.
 
pimpinlilchris, I think of it kind of the same way we would eyecolor. Brown is THE dominant eye color gene, meaning it will overshadow the recessive gene for blue eyes. Yet even if both of your parents have brown eyes it is still possible that you could wind up having blue eyes. If both of your parents received both a dominant and recessive gene for their eye color from their respective parents, then there's a 1 in 4 chance that you could wind up having blue eyes.

What if sexuality operates on the same premisis? Heterosexuality is the dominant gene, and homosexuality the recessive...if you take the exact same scenario above and apply it to sexuality, even with both parents being heterosexual, there is still a 1 in 4 possibility of the child receiving the 2 recessive genes and thusly being a homosexual.

Now whether or not said child will act on their homosexual feelings or repress them in order to lead a "normal" lifestyle is matter of nurture moreso than nature, but the fact remains that the child will still possess the homosexual genes...


I hope that makes since to all of you, I had a hard time trying to word it. If you don't get it let me know and I'll try to reword it better.
 
I know what your saying, but I didn't think gay guys could have sex with a girl and reproduce, well not that they can't reproduce but they would have no interest or couldn't get hard to have sex with a women.

but what u say makes sense, now if everyone had the straight and gay gene there would always be a 1/4 chance of a kid being gay. but i think i heard that only about 1/10 or less people are gay, so that number would just keep going down till gays are nonexistant or very rare?
 
It's possible that there could be more then one gene that comprises sexuality...if there were say 2 genes, then the chances would be like one in 16 that you could wind up gay...plus you have to rememeber that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of closet-homosexuals who will never come out out of fear for of what others will think of them. Many of them are probably deeply routed in their churches, and as we all know, more religions don't look to nicely upon homosexuality...
 
Who says there has to be a "gay gene". Genetic defects can and do occur, as the reason, for many things caused by genes.

Also I don't know of anyone that is a "homophobe". That implies that an individual is predisposed to FEAR of homosexuals. A person can just NOT LIKE the homo lifestyle, and that does not make them FEAR the lifestyle.
 
Deep psycological issues, the and the need for male bonding/attachment is my theory.

Now maybe some are more prone to it than others, because not every guy who has father issues is going to be gay obviously.

I do have several gay friends, and the definitely had no real relationship with their father. And the fact that one of them is a ballet dancer probobly has alot to do with that.

So here is the formula for gayness in my opinion:

So called "feminine" interests like ballet, arts... + possible effeminite voice patterns + absence of an understanding father figure/male rolemodel (or any combonation) = Homo
 
philadelph said:
So here is the formula for gayness in my opinion:

So called "feminine" interests like ballet, arts... + possible effeminite voice patterns + absence of an understanding father figure/male rolemodel (or any combonation) = Homo

Aha, so talking with a deep voice, playing football and having a good relationship with your father would make you a heterosexual then? If you really believe what you're saying I suggest that you start thinking about what discussing penises in a forum might do to you.

LevitraKid: If you have nothing better to do than judging people's lifestyles, I really do feel sorry for you. Chances are that a vast majority of the people whose lifestyles you don't like don't even know that you disapprove, this makes the whole thing an enormous waste of energy. And yes - fear is a very common reason why we don't like things, it's easier to put up a harsh attitude instead of admitting that something we are unfamiliar with makes us uncomfortable.

For me being gay is not a lifestile, it's just a part of who I am - that's it. Not every gay guy likes ballet, talks with a whiny feminine voice etc... I for example hate ballet and opera, I do martial arts and listen to death metal and grindcore. Oh, and as I said earlier I check out womens boobs all the time (hey, maybe there's some kind of heterosexual gene in me after all? lol).

Since some people here seem to think that our sexualities decide what we do in life, read this statement:

Men who like women with big boobs like to wear grey clothes and get bald quicker than other men.

That made absolutely no sense at all, now did it? Then why should gay men have the same interests, opinions etc?

Oh, and I would be glad if someone could help me find the genes that turn people into mime artists, politicians and farmers. :p
 
Some hard facts, as I see it. Let me know if I am wrong:

Gayness cannot be a gene because it would have slowly been bred out of the gene pool bit by bit over the ages.

There are also very few totally heterosexual and totally homosexual people. Most human beings reside in a kind of gray area, but lean more in one direction or another.

Homosexuals can be arroused by women and have intercourse with them.

Heterosexuals can be arroused by men and have intercourse with them.

Homosexuality is not a choice, because I have heard lots of homosexuals say that they wished they were straight. Who would actually want to be in a discriminated minority?

Since it is not a gene, and it is not a choice, then it must be developmental...perhaps in the womb, as someone suggested earlier. I have a gay cousin, and you can see he is gay even in his baby pictures.
 
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