How long is a piece of string

I'm starting this thread because I have noticed that alot of people ask the same questions regarding length of time to make gains" how long to gain an inch" or " what's the average gain in X amount of months " I really do belive this is the wrong way to go, having that mentality is not good!! Let's say you read all the difference comments from people on the forum and you have come to the conclusion that you can duplicate what someone else has gained, so let's say for example that 10 people gained an inch NBPEL in 6 months and you set yourself on that goal. What happens to your mindset if you don't hit that 1 inch gain in erect length? You are going to be gutted! Asking questions on how much you can gain in any alloted time and expecting to achieve what someone else has done is crazy! We are not all the same, we can't all gain like someone else has gained.
I decided that after starting my routine back in April that I wasn't going to measure for 6-8 months and when I do finally decide to measure I'm going to be very happy no matter what I've gained, even if it's only 1/4 inch!! Any gain is great because it will be greater than we start with!
So I say fuck how long it takes, fuck how much you are going to gain because that's like asking how long is a piece of fucking string! Just keep training , enjoy training and be very happy with whatever improvement you make. It's been said many times before that PE is a marathon and not a sprint so forget about time, forget about big gains and just exercise your cock!
What will be will be, you are the captain of your own ship! Set sail and prepare for a very long journey because this is a way of life and not a quick fix.
Peace.

amen brother!

Our perception of intensity per exercise or work out will vary. Our perception on how to do an exercise may also vary. These factors alone can make explain how some gain more than others. If we all had the same perception we'd gain the same amount. And even so there are other factors like discipline and dedication that some people just don't have. I often see a lot of people say I've been doing PE here and there but not really focused.

kyomoto;705249 said:

Our perception of intensity per exercise or work out will vary. Our perception on how to do an exercise may also vary. These factors alone can make explain how some gain more than others. If we all had the same perception we'd gain the same amount. And even so there are other factors like discipline and dedication that some people just don't have. I often see a lot of people say I've been doing PE here and there but not really focused.

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Like you point out there are lots of different variables in PE , but the point I'm making is when people ask how much can they gain in X amount of time is the wrong way to go, gaining in an alloted time should not be the goal, only making a gain should be the the focal point of our training, the time that it takes to make those gains are secondary.

It sounds cliché, but it's definitely 'The Journey' which brings the most satisfaction and I'll continue this ride for as long as I can

beardedbaldy;705258 said:

Like you point out there are lots of different variables in PE , but the point I'm making is when people ask how much can they gain in X amount of time is the wrong way to go, gaining in an alloted time should not be the goal, only making a gain should be the the focal point of our training, the time that it takes to make those gains are secondary.

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Oh no thats for sure I'm just adding some variables. No one should ever see time as having to be perfect to gain a certain amount

Threak-X;705298 said:

Once you place your mindset on the goal, focus on the process only, not the goal. The goal will eventually manifest when you honesty put the work in for it...
...if you truly want your goal, you'll work at it diligently and make the adjustments necessary for your goal, no matter long it will take.

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Exactly! ! Time should never be something that we focus on. On this forum we all want the same thing and that's to change what we naturally have. It almost seems as though it's a competition as to how much a person can or has gained in the shortest amount time, this is common theme in life, one up man ship as it were , the ego taking over . But PE is not a competition in any way whatsoever, it's a very personal journey that we have all chosen to take and that is what we should focus on.

Once you place your mindset on the goal, focus on the process only, not the goal. The goal will eventually manifest when you honesty put the work in for it...
...deadlines are good to have, they keep you accountable and on schedule. If you truly want your goal, you'll work at it diligently and make the adjustments necessary for your goal, no matter long it will take.

Threak-X;705303 said:

Once you place your mindset on the goal, focus on the process only, not the goal. The goal will eventually manifest when you honesty put the work in for it...
...deadlines are good to have, they keep you accountable and on schedule. If you truly want your goal, you'll work at it diligently and make the adjustments necessary for your goal, no matter long it will take.

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True in all facets of life

Threak-X;705303 said:

Once you place your mindset on the goal, focus on the process only, not the goal. The goal will eventually manifest when you honesty put the work in for it...
...deadlines are good to have, they keep you accountable and on schedule. If you truly want your goal, you'll work at it diligently and make the adjustments necessary for your goal, no matter long it will take.

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I agree with you but imo a deadline isn't needed, the goal itself keeps you working hard. I want to gain an inch NBPEL , if I have achieved that inch when I finally measure in a few months then it's a bonus , if on the other hand I've only gained a fraction of that then that's fine too as I will just continue working hard until I have made that gain of extra inch. To me having a deadline isn't needed.

beardedbaldy;705302 said:

Exactly! ! Time should never be something that we focus on. On this forum we all want the same thing and that's to change what we naturally have. It almost seems as though it's a competition as to how much a person can or has gained in the shortest amount time, this is common theme in life, one up man ship as it were , the ego taking over . But PE is not a competition in any way whatsoever, it's a very personal journey that we have all chosen to take and that is what we should focus on.

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PE-deadlines are good to have, they will keep you on schedule and accountable. When the PE-deadline arrives and you haven't met the goal you set. You should be grateful for any gains earned. Assess the goal and the work you did, make any changes necessary and keep moving forward, work toward the goal until you achieve what you want...
...in life, anything worth acquiring and keeping takes work, no matter long it takes.

Myself, my ultimate goal is 9x6, I been working on it on/off for 10-years, only a 1/2-inch away.

"Obsess for Success"

Threak-X;705311 said:

PE-deadlines are good to have, they will keep you on schedule and accountable. When the PE-deadline arrives and you haven't met the goal you set. You should be grateful for any gains earned. Assess the goal and the work you did, make any changes necessary and keep moving forward, work toward the goal until you achieve what you want...
...in life, anything worth acquiring and keeping takes work, no matter long it takes.

Myself, my ultimate goal is 9x6, I been working on it on/off for 10-years, only a 1/2-inch away.

"Obsess for Success"

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I agree absolutely with what you say apart from the deadline 👍you are a veteran of PE so I respect your comments and views on the subject. I have decided to partake in PE for the foreseeable future every day so it won't be a hobby , it will become a way of life , a habit that will become ingrained like having a wash every day. This is why for me I have no need to set a deadline for myself. I will take measurements at various points of my journey so I can track my progress but that's it.
I applaud you on dedication trying to aquire your ultimate goal and I'm sure you will do it.

beardedbaldy;705312 said:

I agree absolutely with what you say apart from the deadline 👍you are a veteran of PE so I respect your comments and views on the subject. I have decided to partake in PE for the foreseeable future every day so it won't be a hobby, it will become a way of life , a habit that will become ingrained like having a wash every day. This is why for me I have no need to set a deadline for myself. I will take measurements at various points of my journey so I can track my progress but that's it.
I applaud you on dedication trying to aquire your ultimate goal and I'm sure you will do it.

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I understand about deadlines aren't necessary with PE as a life-style. You have the ultimate goal and smaller goals along the way. A deadline is a tool to use to get things done for the smaller goal to reach your ultimate goal. Example would be, in 3-months, gain an 1/4-inch. This will assist with keeping you working toward the smaller goal, otherwise distractions get in the way and you're easily sidetracked. At the end the 3-months, you didn't make the goal, you would have to assess if the goal was unreasonable or the work/technique was insufficient, or distractions got in the way. It's a tool to keep you on schedule towards the ultimate goal and accountable to do the work. Otherwise, most people wouldn't put the time/effort to make it work and probably complain PE doesn't work.

Successful people have structure, create deadlines, are very organized, create good habits, stay acute to what's happening, adaptable and believe in themselves.

Is ok to have deadlines in PE, otherwise men wouldnt get the results they look for..after all most men may not have an exact date,but if they spend 3 months exercising non stop theyd get a good result

Threak-X;705321 said:

I understand about deadlines aren't necessary with PE as a life-style. You have the ultimate goal and smaller goals along the way. A deadline is a tool to use to get things done for the smaller goal to reach your ultimate goal. Example would be, in 3-months, gain an 1/4-inch. This will assist with keeping you working toward the smaller goal, otherwise distractions get in the way and you're easily sidetracked. At the end the 3-months, you didn't make the goal, you would have to assess if the goal was unreasonable or the work/technique was insufficient, or distractions got in the way. It's a tool to keep you on schedule towards the ultimate goal and accountable to do the work. Otherwise, most people wouldn't put the time/effort to make it work and probably complain PE doesn't work.

Successful people have structure, create deadlines, are very organized, create good habits, stay acute to what's happening, adaptable and believe in themselves.

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Yup, tiny steps that bring us to the small goal first then build off the inspiration of that gain to fuel the next small step. Eventually you will make your way up the staircase to the size you desire.

Threak-X;705321 said:

I understand about deadlines aren't necessary with PE as a life-style. You have the ultimate goal and smaller goals along the way. A deadline is a tool to use to get things done for the smaller goal to reach your ultimate goal. Example would be, in 3-months, gain an 1/4-inch. This will assist with keeping you working toward the smaller goal, otherwise distractions get in the way and you're easily sidetracked. At the end the 3-months, you didn't make the goal, you would have to assess if the goal was unreasonable or the work/technique was insufficient, or distractions got in the way. It's a tool to keep you on schedule towards the ultimate goal and accountable to do the work. Otherwise, most people wouldn't put the time/effort to make it work and probably complain PE doesn't work.

Successful people have structure, create deadlines, are very organized, create good habits, stay acute to what's happening, adaptable and believe in themselves.

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Again I understand and respect your views and comments and I really don't mind standing alone on how I think on this subject.

LONGERDICK7+;705325 said:

Is ok to have deadlines in PE, otherwise men wouldnt get the results they look for..after all most men may not have an exact date,but if they spend 3 months exercising non stop theyd get a good result

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Word deadlines to reach a goal is just more motivation for me personally. If I have to get to 8" by this Dec 15 I know I'll be working my ass off for it and doing all I can to achieve it. If I fail then I set another date but I never get discouraged. Friendly competition helps each other for support

yep i really dont want miss a day from now till dec 15 but things are uncertain..But who knows..

It's looking like the message of this thread has been lost in translation, if you are new to PE having never done it before , not knowing much about it and you come to this forum looking for guidance and you read thread after thread of questions or statements stating how much a person can gain from an alloted time frame you are setting yourself up for disappointment. If you read that that it's possible to gain an inch erect in 3 months you will train as hard as you can in that time and in that time you will measure your progress, now what happens at the end of that 3 months if you haven't made that inch gain? Even though you followed the newbie routine, stuck to it and worked hard? That person becomes dissatisfied and demotivated .Now I'm am not saying making that sort of gain in that amount of time isn't possible for some people but what I am saying is this, no matter how hard or how often or with how solid of a routine we all gain differently, some with length some with girth some with both.
Putting yourself in the mindset thst PE is a very long term investment of your time and effort is the best way of ensuring your commitment to the game, trying to obtain something that for most people is unobtainable in a short period of time is counter productive. Nowhere in the newbie routine does it make claims to gains in a period of time because nobody is the same. Now please correct me if I'm wrong but there is an interview with DLD on YouTube and he talks about starting off in PE and how he first thought that making himself bigger wasn't possible and he actually wanted to prove it couldn't be done, he was doing the stretching and jelqing exercises to improve his EQ, he did this training hard with the information he had gained and he decided to measure himself after 6 months, to his amazement he had gained 2 inches!! Now this is nothing short of spectacular! ! Does DLD mention having a goal of what to reach? No, A time frame in which to reach it ? No, Did it stop him from training hard every day? No. Because of this DLD had no false expectations and I'm confident In saying that he would still of been extremely happy if he had only made an inch gain simply because he had gained.
PE= long term investment , that's the mindset we should be in. Be patient, train hard and be happy with any gain you aquire.
Peace .

Yep you are right there PE is a long term investment,breaks,days off,etc etc thats why i havent gained enough.

Is a good thing to know that PE is not a race is more like a marathon.