Bib starter vs. hanger & Hanging advice Please

Not trying to start a war.

I've seen hanger's vids on wrapping and putting on his device. The inside of the device doesn't have those plastic moldings protruding out that the Bib starter has and is a smooth surface. Also, not a lot of wrap was applied and the device was put on.

I am a novice on compression hanging. I was using the LG Vac hanger but it just really fucking sucks with all the blisters and shit. Especially the low ceiling on weight/progression and ridiculous amount of money you have to spend on that fucker.

Anyways, back on track. When I was using my Bib starter a LONG time ago, I was not wrapping too much and have read that the Bib requires a good amount of wrap. Is that what differs with the malhanger?

I also had trouble playing around with the bottom hex nuts to properly adjust the hanger to my size, but then again, my technique overall was really bad.

I had to reorder my Bib starter, but am interested in the hanger because it seems it does not require an insane amount of wrap. Thing that concerns me is of that smooth looking surface. I am assuming that the outer wrap creates some sort of traction that disallows any slippage. My problem is that I am uncut and experienced a lot of slippage, due to really bad technique.

Assuming that the wrap is good as well as the bottom hex nut adjustments, all that is needed is to form those "shoulders" and then tighten right? If I were to get a hanger, stillwantmore, if you read this, getting advice is possible right seeing that you are pretty active on these forums. I would appreciate it as well as everybody else.

The LG is going in the trash. Fuckin piece of shit. Goin on PEGYM and gonna give em shit. Lol. Nah, just gonna leave some of the issues I had or may not even bother.

I'm going to reply based on my own personal experiences with hanging and the mentioned devices. I have in fact used just about every type of device out there over the years. The "LG" is nothing new design wise. The "Grip" hanger was similar in concept as was the "Max Vac". The LG appears to be a refined (whether it is actually "hand turned on a lathe by a skilled machinist" or not) version of the Max Vac. You usually need less wrap with the BIB Starter because the gel liner adds some faux girth. The BIB starter has issues with making the penis twist inside of it at weights over 12-15lbs.

Coincidentally, this is the weight level most men start to see gains. The twisting comes from the gel liner from what I have been able to determine. The gel liner is in my mind like a lubricated condom. Imagine trying to get a tight grip with your hand on your erection with a lubricated condom on. It's not happening. Your grip with slip and twist. BIB of course has the solution. You start with the aptly named "Starter". Then, when you have some experience under your belt, you come back and give him some more money for his "Hardcore". For the bigger girthed guys (6" and over) he has his "Regular".

I'm not being cynical, it's called a business model and marketing. I love capitalism too, I just choose to in my mind, run a more honest business.

I designed my hanger to be usable by most men regardless of where they are starting. I don't sell you one hanger, then have you come back for another one later for more money. In fact, I have shipped several free hangers over the years when orders were either lost in transit, or the customer misused his hanger. I also give a 50% discount to active military and veterans with proof of service. The inner design of my hanger eliminates the uncomfortable pressure points in the BIB hangers. Proper wrapping and hanger adjustment help with proper grip. As does hanger placement. Men who will actually email me when they do have a problem, I can usually help. Hard headed types who refuse to come to me for help and just voice their negative opinion online about me or my hanger are the guys who don't come to me for help. We have one of those types here on MOS.

I have even gone so far as to give the occasional refund when I could not get a guy to work with my hanger. You won't find the same level of customer service elsewhere and I'm not just tooting my own horn.

I do indeed make myself pretty easy to reach. hanger@gmail.com or here on MOS.

Bib has nothing on Stillwantmore's hanger, nothing! The side by side comparison should be enough but if that is not enough, the price should make you jump.

Hmmmm... I can see your point. I do see the gel becoming a problem with slippage.

I also do not like those plastic niches portruding out. But it does seem to help with the idea of creating more girth inside the well.

Just to reiterate my question. One thing that I WASN'T doing with the Bib hanger was tightening and pushing to form those shoulders or anchor spot whatever you folks call it. That is probably the main contributor to my injury.

My erect girth right now stands at 5.0 inches and is a little thinner behind the coronal ridge. Will I be able to use the same amount of wrap as you? Or would I have to use more? With the hanger of course.

Also, like I have previously mentioned, I am uncut and am wondering if I can use your method without the slippage issues I had with bib. Of course, just about everything was wrong when I was using it but visually seeing the hanger and how it was applied, it seems like a more comfortable device.

I am gonna order one right now. You're about to see an order pop up lol. Can you please answer my unorganized sporadic questions? I appreciate it.

CleverDouchebag;731278 said:

Hmmmm... I can see your point. I do see the gel becoming a problem with slippage.

I also do not like those plastic niches portruding out. But it does seem to help with the idea of creating more girth inside the well.

Just to reiterate my question. One thing that I WASN'T doing with the Bib hanger was tightening and pushing to form those shoulders or anchor spot whatever you folks call it. That is probably the main contributor to my injury.

My erect girth right now stands at 5.0 inches and is a little thinner behind the coronal ridge. Will I be able to use the same amount of wrap as you? Or would I have to use more? With the hanger of course.

Also, like I have previously mentioned, I am uncut and am wondering if I can use your method without the slippage issues I had with bib. Of course, just about everything was wrong when I was using it but visually seeing the hanger and how it was applied, it seems like a more comfortable device.

I am gonna order one right now. You're about to see an order pop up lol. Can you please answer my unorganized sporadic questions? I appreciate it.

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You'd follow my guide where I lay out how to wrap if the suggestions in there don't work, we would work together and fine tune your fit. I have many uncut guys who use my hanger with no problems. Typically, you place the hanger just like a cut guy would and tighten. Some men need to modify things slightly....sitting the hanger a little farther back, or rolling their foreskin back as examples.

I have your order and it ships tomorrow with some others.

Cool. It arrives on my birthday which is pretty cool.

Already have my wraps good to go and have practiced a little bit. I read your how to and am glad to see everything simplified. Bib is cool and gives a lot of good advice. Just it seems a little over the top and many complexities. Just a little thing that bothered me, but again, I ain't talking shit.

Leave my foreskin covering the glans. That is what I understood so I will be going with this method and follow everything else as outlined. The "anchor" will be formed regardless of more skin right? Just a thing that concerns me but I'll play around with it when it comes tomorrow.

One more thing. The "TPD" you constructed looks like a better alternative to the regular clamps. When I did try clamping with the plastic clamps, my fat pad would push the clamp and wasn't really seated against the pubic bone. Right now I really want to get to at least 9.0 BPEL first. But if hanging and clamping can be done uniformly, I would be interested in a routine like that once I am ready.

Where can we order the TPD?

My clamp device I only sell on my support forum. malehanger3.boards.net under "Penis Clamp".
Typically, you would hang, then clamp to keep post clamp swelling from affecting hanger fit.

So far so good. Seems like a good product.

I saw your vid on attatching the hanger on your how to section. You said the process should take 3 to 5 mins. Only took me about 1 or 1.5 mins. The top teeth closed a lot quicker for mine than yours due to your girth most likely.

What would happen if I decide to make both my wraps just one inch longer? I feel like I need just slightly more wrapped girth. I'll try it out.

Also, you mentioned to take off the hanger after 5 mins of hanging to re tighten but it looked like my top teeth closed all the way before hanging. So probably a little more wrap is needed. I am 5.0 erect midgirth. I am probably overthinking shit. But it feels way better than the starter from what I remember.

Should start a progress log huh?

Damn mobile browser makes it too easy to delete posts you just posted.

I think you mis heard me. I don't say to remove the hanger after the first few minutes of a set, only to tighten the hanger more because fluid in the skin is pushed out allowing for more tightening. Experiment with different amounts of wrap. My suggestions in my guide are not carved in stone law. Rather suggestions to get a guy going.

Yeah my bad I did not mean to type take off the hanger rather than to take off the weight and then retighten. That's what I was trying to do but like I said I may need more wrap.

It's all good. Right now is the technique period. This may very well bring the gains I've been wanting to have for a long time as well with the TPD.

There's no need to remove the weight either. Just reach down, turn the wing nut. Yes, there is a learning phase. I am here for ya.

As someone whos used both, the hanger is better, the bib is good, but that rubber shit is annoying, you'd think it was good but it just messes the tightening process, also wayyy to expensive. For the price and quality, you cant beat the hanger period!

jekyllnhyde360;732050 said:

As someone whos used both, the hanger is better, the bib is good, but that rubber shit is annoying, you'd think it was good but it just messes the tightening process, also wayyy to expensive. For the price and quality, you cant beat the hanger period!

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Way to expensive. You can get the LengthMaster for the same price and get not just a hanger but so much more! You can get Stillwantmore's hanger for a fraction of the Bib. There is no better place to buy your PE goods than the Brotherhood!

AAAAAAAAAAAAND....a portion of profits come back to MOS

Yo @stillwantmore2, been using the hanger for about a week now.

I warm up with a heating pad for about 5 mins. I read about people hanging with a heating lamp and say that they have gotten betters results from it due to making the penis more elastic allowing deformation to happen more easily. Will invest in this once I have enough money to buy a lamp.

Last night I hanged three 15 min. sets still at 2.5 lbs like your program suggests and afterwards I did girth work for the first time in a long time.

My girth is weird due to it fluctuating from 4.8 to 5.1 MEG when I hop on PE and stop for a little while. Starting with the hanger, I was 5.0 then it went down to 4.8 and I did some Jelqs last night, wore my girth band from LG and woke up with a 5.15 girth. WTF. Just not gonna question it for now.

I got a little impatient this morning because it has been about a week and you suggest to hang 2.5 lbs for another week but I just kicked up to 5lbs. Felt good and felt like I was actually doing a stretch. Did three 15 mins. sets with 10 min rest each set with BTB jelqs and dry jelqs. I kind of have a routine I am thinking of that I want to stick with and want to get some input.

Morning:
3-5 sets of 15-20 mins. Hanging light jelqs afterwards

Night:
Dry and/or wet jelqs. Repetitions? Have to figure that out.

I also have the Bathmate and LG hanger I'm not gonna use anymore. The thing I will use though from LG is the "girth band" that you wear on the base of your penis to keep it plumped and may serve as a way to gain some girth passively. Does keep the flaccid plumped. I have your TPD but don't want to use in the fear that gaining girth will hinder my length gains. What do you think?

Just one issue with hanging as of now, my penis semi engorged with blood even after I jacked off. I've read about jacking off before hanging to help with this. Still, even after the 2nd time I busted a nut, my penis wasn't completely flaccid and heating it just seems to make the blood come back. I really try to squeeze it and do some squats and push ups to deal with it and it seemed to help. Advice? Just afraid of doing damage to the most important part of my body.

My PE career has been really shitty for the past couple of years and I think I have toughened up my penis more than anything which is why I need to get into heavy hanging and clamping, when I am ready, to get some serious gains.

A lot of stuff to address here, hopefully I can get some advice/insight into these topics. Gonna start my log in the progress thread once I get some help on this stuff. I appreciate it brahs.

The heat thing is up to you. I never saw a benefit from warm ups or heat socks. Never tried a heat lamp though.

Honestly if you spend money on anything soon, I suggest a fractional weight plate set. The set will have two of each: 1/4lb, 1/2lb, 3/4lb, and 1lb mini plates which you can use individually, or in various combinations to go up and down in weight more easily. You can order these sets on Amazon for $20-$30.

Your fluctuations in girth, I wouldn't worry about. Hanging can give you a little girth over time. A little extra girth from the other PE will help the hanger fit a little easier.

The hanging part of your routine looks good. Just make sure you keep with the Progressive Hanging approach as you go up in weight along with using Dave's Technique as needed.

Not sure how to advise on the other exercises and incorporating them.

A little extra blood in your penis is nothing to stress over. In time, it will become easier to stay less erect. Your penis gets used to you touching it in a non erotic way.

Hope this helps.

i dont warm up, well i just massage the unit for a3 to 5 mins time and i strt whit the hanging i use two ss plates(flanges) kind of thing n ive been feeling great.

Been playing around with the hanger a little more and tried out your suggestion on one of your vids by trying a 4 inch wide polyester wrap with the specified length for my girth and it worked fantastic today. One thing that I am doing though, I am keeping a bit of blood in my glans when forming the anchor and hang like that. If I squeeze all the blood from my glans, the hanger slides a little down and it gets a little painful. The glans can have a little blood right? What are the possible dangers and indicators of things going wrong with this method? Based on what I remember, no pain with this method but slight discomfort upon attaching and tightening but I think that is to be expected.

On some of the good sets I did today, after I disattached the hanger, the glans were a little cold and slightly discolored but some quick slaps on the leg, got pink again.

I want to start a thread like I have been saying I would but I first want to change my username. I do not want to start all over with a new account but will have to if I cannot change my username. Can someone please help me with this? I PM'ed DLD but no response.

No problem keeping a little blood in the glans. Since sets are 15-20 minutes before removing the hanger. Later, after some gains and you have more room for hanger placement, you can experiment with different areas on your penis and seeing how that affects your anchor.

PM me and I can change your name.