it seems most peoples goals revolve around 8 inches of length and 6 inches of girth. im just wondering where these numbers came from?

also, are these numbers bone pressed and mid shaft in most peoples mind?
 
im guessing most people chose 8 in length so they can bottom out in any woman, and 6 in girth because its bigger than average but you can still do anal and bj's
just my guess, 8x6 is huge and wayyy above average imo
 
Simple:

8 inches of length- In the world of sex- they say- bigger is better- well it is not ALWAYS like that. There is good, big, but there is too big as well. Sex is an act of pleasure and what we all care about is giving the girl more and more pleasure (this is the dominant reason I see for us to have come here on the first place). 6 inches of length is average and there is better, 7 is pretty good and big, 8 is big and I believe is the limit to too big. Basically- women come in different sizes. At 8 inches you would most probably be able to get a GREAT sex session with no pain for the girl and all pleasure. Any more than that might make it painful rather than pleasureable (and this none of us want I suppose :) ). So 8- while BIG is considered to be absolutely pleasureable and not painful at all (depends on the size of her vagina and how much you stick it in though rofl)

6 inches of girth- Now this is special! Again- girls vaginas come in defferent sizes, BUT unlike length (where if you are too long for her you can just choose not to stick it all in), girth is the major issue of sex. Most women say that girth is more important to them than lengh, because it makes them feel "fuller" and it stimulated all their inner spots better because it rubs the walls of the vagina pretty well. So the more you fill her up- the better. But there is a point where it is a bit too much (just like length, but even worse). If it is too much- you will have a hard time putting it in and even if you do- the only thing you will see is a girl that is in pain rather than extasy. So long story short- at 5 inches of girth you would be able to please a girl, at 5.5 you would be able to give her really good pleasure and at 6 you would be able to give her really really good pleasure. The 6 inch mark is considered the limit of big enough to too much for most of us.

So this is how these numbers came along- BIG, but not too much. Pleasureable, but not painful. (though it really really depends on vaginal size, this is a good estimate :)). I hope I helped, all the best, Zam :)
 
I think that for most women 8" it's a mouthfull, if we're talking nbp x msg you'll bottom out 95%of women out there(look in adult entertainment and youll that nobody with that size can go balls deep, and we're talking about pro acrtresess) and quickies will be almost nonexistent at least not without keepeng a good suply of vaseline on deck.

7nbp x 5.75 my goal. I have another 0.5x0 to get there as I just reached my girth goal today... muhahahaha

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;608750 said:
I think that for most women 8" it's a mouthfull, if we're talking nbp x msg you'll bottom out 95%of women out there(look in adult entertainment and youll that nobody with that size can go balls deep, and we're talking about pro acrtresess) and quickies will be almost nonexistent at least not without keepeng a good suply of vaseline on deck.

7nbp x 5.75 my goal. I have another 0.5x0 to get there as I just reached my girth goal today... muhahahaha

~Blue.

Fuck! Congrats on reaching your final girth goal! WOOHOOO! Can't wait till that day comes for me rofl!
 
jordey;608739 said:
it seems most peoples goals revolve around 8 inches of length and 6 inches of girth. im just wondering where these numbers came from?

also, are these numbers bone pressed and mid shaft in most peoples mind?
8x6 is the perfect penis in the eyes of a woman so many men want this as their goal. Any bigger than that and it's just for show for the mans own reasons. 8x6 is the perfect pleasure pole for a woman and almost no woman wants any more than that. If they do they likely have mental problems lol
 
yeah i understand how women would like a certain length and girth, however im wondering where these definitive numbers came from. e.g. why isnt it 7.75 x 6.2, or 8.3 x 5.75 etc. to my knowledge there hasnt actually been an accurate poll from women on their preference - so where has the number come from?

i assume its just a 'clean' number fairly above average, just wondering if anyone knew of the actual origin
 
Zambrodom3;608751 said:
Fuck! Congrats on reaching your final girth goal! WOOHOOO! Can't wait till that day comes for me rofl!

Thanks, that camed as a surprize since I don't train girth at this point but I seem to gain girth very fast with any routine, length however..... well thats a different story it took me 22 months to gain 1.5" and I consider that quite on the slow side but at least I gained.

~Blue.
 
jordey;608755 said:
yeah i understand how women would like a certain length and girth, however im wondering where these definitive numbers came from. e.g. why isnt it 7.75 x 6.2, or 8.3 x 5.75 etc. to my knowledge there hasnt actually been an accurate poll from women on their preference - so where has the number come from?

i assume its just a 'clean' number fairly above average, just wondering if anyone knew of the actual origin
Exactly it's just a round number. I would say once your 7.5x5.5 you can use the word "big" and be acurate
 
Kinsey did a study.

That's where I got it from. You can find it if you Google it I'm sure.

I'm after 9x6.5. My reasoning is that many positions aren't condusive to maximum penetration, and at 9, there will still be a number of positions where I will bottom out with my lady. The 6.5 girth is really an over time kind of goal we can slowly work up to as a couple.
 
I think while 8x6 will be too big for some, it is pretty much the limit before you begin experiencing a drastically higher probability of encountering issues of being too big. I have known women that had issues with their 7 inch bfs/ex bfs.
 
8 x 6 becomes the goal once 7.5 x 5.5 is reached. I think some men set their goals low in the beginning so they can reach them with more ease and from there they start to add to the goal. 8 x 6 is a number that begins the size of a monster and I think most men would agree that is where they want to be. But, with any measurement, once it is reached men will want more. So you will see someone start shooting for 9" after they reach 8".
 
to me, it seems a logical ideal would be 7.75 x 6, as it seems to be where you are in the 99th percentile for both length and girth according to these studies:

http://i.imgur.com/bsNrs1u.png

however, i can see how the coveted 8x6 has a nicer ring to it.

ive based some of my goals on this chart as to me it seems like the most accurate representation of penis size in the public. however, ive realised that the measurements are taken separately, so being in the 99th percentile isnt very accurate. i.e. the guys who are in the 99th percentile for length may only be in the 50th percentile for girth.

i would assume this would mean that if you were in the 99th percentile for both length AND girth, you would actually be at even high percentile in terms of overall size?

i think someone needs to do a study on size taking into account length and girth together, possibly measuring for volume
 
I think it's popular because it's huge, bigger than what most girls will ever see, but it's still attainable. On top of that, much bigger and you'll see more and more issues while having sex.
 
8 x 6 is just a BOSS measurement. For some reason I always look at the 7's as being big but 8 just rings HUGE.
 
doublelongdaddy;609023 said:
8 x 6 is just a BOSS measurement. For some reason I always look at the 7's as being big but 8 just rings HUGE.

true, most would consider it huge. i still think another study should be done on volume though!

is the 8 inches usually to mean bp or nbp?
 
wouldnt the volume of any 8x6 penis always be the same. now the penises could look different but if their dimensions are 8x6 the volume will be the same.

Now head shape. vary girths throughout the base middle and top of the shaft will change volumes between very similarly sized penises
 
DennyA;609179 said:
No, an 8x6 that tapers towards the head to 4.7 will have less volume /feel different from an 8x6 that is uniform to the head.

youknowme123321;609171 said:
wouldnt the volume of any 8x6 penis always be the same. now the penises could look different but if their dimensions are 8x6 the volume will be the same.

Now head shape. vary girths throughout the base middle and top of the shaft will change volumes between very similarly sized penises

were you responding to me? i'm asking b/c in my quote seen above you can see i said what you just said about varying girths.
 
jordey;609106 said:
true, most would consider it huge. i still think another study should be done on volume though!

is the 8 inches usually to mean bp or nbp?

Bone pressed but the fatter someone is the longer they will need to be to show it as none bone-pressed. When I was at 8.5" bone-pressed I was 6" non bone-pressed due to fat.
 
doublelongdaddy;609281 said:
Bone pressed but the fatter someone is the longer they will need to be to show it as none bone-pressed. When I was at 8.5" bone-pressed I was 6" non bone-pressed due to fat.

I'd hate to see what mine would look like with an extra 20 lbs of fat
 
doublelongdaddy;609281 said:
Bone pressed but the fatter someone is the longer they will need to be to show it as none bone-pressed. When I was at 8.5" bone-pressed I was 6" non bone-pressed due to fat.

ah i see, if its bone pressed i guess im closer to the holy grail than i thought! i dont have a very big fat pad so my nbp vs bp is fairly close though, only about 0.6 inches of difference.
 
Well losing the fat pad brings enormous gains to men like me. I am hoping to lose the weight now that fall has arrived. If my past is accurate I should be at 150 pounds by Thanksgiving. Plus, I may have gained some size too, I have been doing a lot of PE at night for the last month developing new exercises, so who know, maybe I will break that 11" mark.
 
doublelongdaddy;609641 said:
Well losing the fat pad brings enormous gains to men like me. I am hoping to lose the weight now that fall has arrived. If my past is accurate I should be at 150 pounds by Thanksgiving. Plus, I may have gained some size too, I have been doing a lot of PE at night for the last month developing new exercises, so who know, maybe I will break that 11" mark.

just out of curiousity, i know youve mentioned a few times now that every year you tend to gain a bunch of weight, then lose a bunch of weight, why is this?

and that 11 inches will be yours soon, youre so close! :cool:
 
jordey;609658 said:
just out of curiousity, i know youve mentioned a few times now that every year you tend to gain a bunch of weight, then lose a bunch of weight, why is this?

and that 11 inches will be yours soon, youre so close! :cool:

Depression and Mania explain it best. I have very long cycles of bi-polar disorder, very unlike the typical textbook phases. I will spend a good 4 months in depression where I gain a ton of weight but like clockwork, when the weather becomes cooler the weight just drops. Last year my waist got down to a 28" with absolutely no fat pad. Today I am wearing size 38" pants with almost a 2" fat pad. I have learned to live with this because it has been this way for years now. The difference this year is I will keep a journal of exactly what changes and why.
 
doublelongdaddy;611757 said:
Depression and Mania explain it best. I have very long cycles of bi-polar disorder, very unlike the typical textbook phases. I will spend a good 4 months in depression where I gain a ton of weight but like clockwork, when the weather becomes cooler the weight just drops. Last year my waist got down to a 28" with absolutely no fat pad. Today I am wearing size 38" pants with almost a 2" fat pad. I have learned to live with this because it has been this way for years now. The difference this year is I will keep a journal of exactly what changes and why.

great idea. if you can document everything you might figure out how to prevent the weight gain in the future :)
 
jordey;612086 said:
great idea. if you can document everything you might figure out how to prevent the weight gain in the future :)

Exactly. I would love, just for one year, to remain at a healthy weight. The ups and downs can really fuck with your head. Going from 160 to 220 and back is a yoyo of depression and happiness that can be way too much for me sometimes.
 
It's nice to find somebody who goes through mental problems too. I've been going through depression lately. It was just anxiety when I was in high school, then it developed into PTSD (but doctors wanna rename it hood disease.. Wtf is that?) so its rare to find someone that can relate. I've got plenty of homeboys that are throwed off and crazy too, but they just have PTSD like me I'm sure.
 
dmoney101;612509 said:
It's nice to find somebody who goes through mental problems too. I've been going through depression lately. It was just anxiety when I was in high school, then it developed into PTSD (but doctors wanna rename it hood disease.. Wtf is that?) so its rare to find someone that can relate. I've got plenty of homeboys that are throwed off and crazy too, but they just have PTSD like me I'm sure.

As much pain and suffering I go through with these mental issues I am happy to be able to speak on them here, in the Brotherhood. I know it helps me but I also think it helps other men too. I think we all have a certain degree of mental problems and having a huge forum of men to help us is a genuine blessing.
 
originally my goals were the 8x6 that many covet. ive been thinking for these past couple of weeks that i actually want more than this, although im not sure by how much. i think whatever numbers allow me to still get head and not have too much dick in the cold when having sex is what ill stop at, which i think is probably around the 8.5inch nbp x 6.25 inch mseg, but ill have to reassess as i progress
 
jordey;615746 said:
originally my goals were the 8x6 that many covet. ive been thinking for these past couple of weeks that i actually want more than this, although im not sure by how much. i think whatever numbers allow me to still get head and not have too much dick in the cold when having sex is what ill stop at, which i think is probably around the 8.5inch nbp x 6.25 inch mseg, but ill have to reassess as i progress

There's something about hitting 6 in girth that's just not satisfying.

Honestly have to say 7 is probably ideal, but that's a whole inch more, and that's going to take a while.
 
Longth;615747 said:
There's something about hitting 6 in girth that's just not satisfying.

Honestly have to say 7 is probably ideal, but that's a whole inch more, and that's going to take a while.

in terms of women, 7 definitely isnt ideal. 6 is bordering on too large for most, and id go as far to say the perfect thickness is around 5.5-5.75, for he majority anyway. for me though, i dont think ill be satisfied with 6 (not there yet though). i think something like 6.25-6.5 is just on the threshold of too large, so would fulfill my own desires to be huge aswell as still be usable :) thats mid shaft though, if i was to ever get to 6.5 mseg, my base would probs be about 7
 
She really is your sex? I'm not surprised where talkin about a tranny since you're always sayin anal. But a guy has lots of qualities a woman dont so yea win 4 u
 
tkto;615780 said:
She really is your sex? I'm not surprised where talkin about a tranny since you're always sayin anal. But a guy has lots of qualities a woman dont so yea win 4 u

Really?

This is good around here?
 
tkto;615759 said:
At thunders they think 7.5/5.75 is an ideal goal. I dont no if its Bp though

It's BP I'm sure. I think there is a lot of truth to that measurement or they're trying to just be slightly different from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] w/ their little catchy ideal size opinion.
I think it's probably more around 7.5 and a little over where some guys bottom out w/ some women. Girth is a different story though. Ive read of some instance where 7" was too much.
 
Nah I think it really is pretty standardized cuz the puss dilates for a larger one. If your woman has got a big ole vaj then yea she may have more trouble orgasming. But to be really sure a man would need to sew female parts on himself that way he could tell us. As we all know women dont no no better therefore we can't really consider what they say
 
8incyclops;615798 said:
Everyone loves 8x6 because its big but not to big 7 minimum length and minimum girth 5.5 and you can plz any women

This.

I have been watching much more lesbian adult entertainment recently. Real fun trying to figure out different techniques girls use to get each other off. I usually watch the HC stuff w/ unrealistic expectations and fake orgasms. I think there is much more to learn from the lesbian stuff. I'm turning more into a foreplay guy. Hope it doesn't end up feminizing me. <:(
 
The mind is the most powerful thing. So yea makes sense that girls dont need a dik to give each other those sensations
 
Longth;615766 said:
I honestly don't buy that. I'm nearing 6.75 base with little complaint about anal, and she's as tight as they come.

yeah but thats a partner. most women can accommodate a larger size once they have built up to it, but thats not to say its ideal. and some women will be tighter than your partner. i was once with a fairly inexperienced girl who was tight even with one finger! for most women on most occasions, i think 6.75 is too much. you hear of many guys having problems with even 6 inch girth.

however im in agreement that with a partner, those bigger girths can be beneficial, depends on the situation really
 
tkto;615780 said:
She really is your sex? I'm not surprised where talkin about a tranny since you're always sayin anal. But a guy has lots of qualities a woman dont so yea win 4 u

unnecessary comment and helps no one
 
Oh how good cuz sometimes they reply like pissed-off muthafukers, and that's when I classify them as boring old guys.
 
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