Hey there . I was thinking , after the work out , instead of rice sock , wouldn't be better to use steam ? I know from the cosmetics things that steam open the pores and could be a lot easier for the cream to absorb into the skin . What do you guys think ?
 
Shinto Kayden;600143 said:
Hey there . I was thinking , after the work out , instead of rice sock , wouldn't be better to use steam ? I know from the cosmetics things that steam open the pores and could be a lot easier for the cream to absorb into the skin . What do you guys think ?

That would work great, wet heat is usually more healing than dry heat. Be careful not to use steam that would burn.
 
dmoney101;600174 said:
Really, steam and really warm water are probably the best warm downs. Great idea.

Definitely, wet heat penetrates faster due to the pores opening, this helps the heat get deeper into the tissue bringing greater healing.
 
doublelongdaddy;600212 said:
Definitely, wet heat penetrates faster due to the pores opening, this helps the heat get deeper into the tissue bringing greater healing.

grab your ducky..IT'S BATH TIME!!!

i use dry heat for convenience. wet is ideal. gives me an idea. i need to do my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretches in a hot tub!!!
 
Easiest , cheapest and cleanest way to make steam is a facial sauna device . As simple as it sounds , you put your little buddy in that support , place a towel on top of him and voilà , best warm down / warm up you can ever experience in my opinion .
 
Shinto Kayden;600334 said:
Easiest , cheapest and cleanest way to make steam is a facial sauna device . As simple as it sounds , you put your little buddy in that support , place a towel on top of him and voilà , best warm down / warm up you can ever experience in my opinion .

I was going to mention that, it would be a very safe way to accomplish a warm up or warm down. I used one for acne when I was younger.
 
Same here . I was on a beauty salon when i was younger for the same problem and from there i got my ideea . LOL . To fill a bathtub with hot water is a lot more difficult and require more time . This monday i will receive my device and , for sure i will post a review about that if nobody ever tried it .
 
Here is my warm down after a great PE session. Highly recommend it ;) tempted to do some more [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] stretches in the tub though

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Water can transfer heat around nine times faster than air. So, wet heat is way more efficient than dry -normal- heat, but 'opening the pores' isn't an extra benefit. Ultimately since the penis resides outside of the body and provides enormously more area for the application of heat, faster than the attachment point down at the base can help shed the heat away, really any manner of heat is going to warm the entire organ pretty quickly.

Wet heat can accomplish that a bit faster, but if the wet heat source loses its warmth before you're finished, or is only being intermittently applied between massages, then you're left with a wet penis which will tend then to get cold very quickly through evaporative cooling (that's how sweating works to cool you off) .. so wet's advantage can also be its liability.

If you want to go beyond even wet heat look into FIR .. far infrared therapy. Far Infrared penetrates more deeply into the body than even wet heat for the purposes of most therapy. And while any kind of heat will warm the penis up in a similar manner, Far Infrared also has some impressive anti-inflammatory properties (heme-oxygenase-1 etc, catalytically active enzymatic agents that specifically speed healing in bruising) which wet and normal-dry heat do not.

In fact .. to make a distinction in the terms .. using (per se) -heat- too soon after your tissues undergo a stressor can impede healing by causing unnecessary extra bleeding in the affected tissues, so keeping in mind the distinction between 'warm' vs 'hot' .. don't use so much warmth right after a workout that it becomes hot .. that could have the opposite effect that you're looking for.
 
Asanon;600564 said:
Water can transfer heat around nine times faster than air. So, wet heat is way more efficient than dry -normal- heat, but 'opening the pores' isn't an extra benefit. Ultimately since the penis resides outside of the body and provides enormously more area for the application of heat, faster than the attachment point down at the base can help shed the heat away, really any manner of heat is going to warm the entire organ pretty quickly.

Wet heat can accomplish that a bit faster, but if the wet heat source loses its warmth before you're finished, or is only being intermittently applied between massages, then you're left with a wet penis which will tend then to get cold very quickly through evaporative cooling (that's how sweating works to cool you off) .. so wet's advantage can also be its liability.

If you want to go beyond even wet heat look into FIR .. far infrared therapy. Far Infrared penetrates more deeply into the body than even wet heat for the purposes of most therapy. And while any kind of heat will warm the penis up in a similar manner, Far Infrared also has some impressive anti-inflammatory properties (heme-oxygenase-1 etc, catalytically active enzymatic agents that specifically speed healing in bruising) which wet and normal-dry heat do not.

In fact .. to make a distinction in the terms .. using (per se) -heat- too soon after your tissues undergo a stressor can impede healing by causing unnecessary extra bleeding in the affected tissues, so keeping in mind the distinction between 'warm' vs 'hot' .. don't use so much warmth right after a workout that it becomes hot .. that could have the opposite effect that you're looking for.

Great addition Asanon! I completely forgot about IR, that was mentioned years ago on the forum and it was working for a few guys, good to have it back in the forefront, maybe some will give it a try. My favorite warm downs have always been heating pads.
 
I don't want to make a new thread so i will post in here . As i said , i will write a review about the facial sauna device . The model is a Revlon , it costed me 35$ without the shipping cost , and for the second time i'm happy to invest in a device for PE . You can adjust your temperature and steam control . The steam relax the skin , makes it softer and increase the blood flow with only 1 condition , you have to put a towel on top . So far so good but , there is a unpleasant part . Asanon is right , after you use the device , your little buddy gets colder but i found out that you can combine rice sock with steam and works very well . So after i used 20 minutes of steam , i jump right after in rice sock for another 10 minutes and your buddy is happy , relaxed and warmish . What do you guys think about this combination ?
 
Shinto Kayden;601004 said:
I don't want to make a new thread so i will post in here . As i said , i will write a review about the facial sauna device . The model is a Revlon , it costed me 35$ without the shipping cost , and for the second time i'm happy to invest in a device for PE . You can adjust your temperature and steam control . The steam relax the skin , makes it softer and increase the blood flow with only 1 condition , you have to put a towel on top . So far so good but , there is a unpleasant part . Asanon is right , after you use the device , your little buddy gets colder but i found out that you can combine rice sock with steam and works very well . So after i used 20 minutes of steam , i jump right after in rice sock for another 10 minutes and your buddy is happy , relaxed and warmish . What do you guys think about this combination ?

That is awesome you picked one up, I think I might do the same to review it. I think the combination with the Rice Sock will be a kick ass way to warm down and heal up your penis.
 
after i used 20 minutes of steam , i jump right after in rice sock for another 10 minutes .. What do you guys think about this combination ?

Nice :)

Doing two different things can seem overly complicated .. but not everything can be simplified, sometimes more complicated is actually the right answer.

You'd mentioned a cream ... how is that working out with the steam (trying to sweat it away) or the sock (trying to absorb it away)? -- Maybe do the cream after the steam, and underneath a plastic wrap so the sock can't wick it away..

Edit .. Add a cockring (light force .. not tight) while doing the warmdown to stay in expanded state.
 
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Asanon;600564 said:
Water can transfer heat around nine times faster than air. So, wet heat is way more efficient than dry -normal- heat, but 'opening the pores' isn't an extra benefit. Ultimately since the penis resides outside of the body and provides enormously more area for the application of heat, faster than the attachment point down at the base can help shed the heat away, really any manner of heat is going to warm the entire organ pretty quickly.

Wet heat can accomplish that a bit faster, but if the wet heat source loses its warmth before you're finished, or is only being intermittently applied between massages, then you're left with a wet penis which will tend then to get cold very quickly through evaporative cooling (that's how sweating works to cool you off) .. so wet's advantage can also be its liability.

If you want to go beyond even wet heat look into FIR .. far infrared therapy. Far Infrared penetrates more deeply into the body than even wet heat for the purposes of most therapy. And while any kind of heat will warm the penis up in a similar manner, Far Infrared also has some impressive anti-inflammatory properties (heme-oxygenase-1 etc, catalytically active enzymatic agents that specifically speed healing in bruising) which wet and normal-dry heat do not.

In fact .. to make a distinction in the terms .. using (per se) -heat- too soon after your tissues undergo a stressor can impede healing by causing unnecessary extra bleeding in the affected tissues, so keeping in mind the distinction between 'warm' vs 'hot' .. don't use so much warmth right after a workout that it becomes hot .. that could have the opposite effect that you're looking for.

I never thought about that. I guess it's a good thing I always use the blow drier on high heat after using a shower for a warm up lol.
 
Asanon;601079 said:
Nice :)

Doing two different things can seem overly complicated .. but not everything can be simplified, sometimes more complicated is actually the right answer.

You'd mentioned a cream ... how is that working out with the steam (trying to sweat it away) or the sock (trying to absorb it away)? -- Maybe do the cream after the steam, and underneath a plastic wrap so the sock can't wick it away..

Edit .. Add a cockring (light force .. not tight) while doing the warmdown to stay in expanded state.


The cream part ... The combination between steam and cream is just not the best one . Steam wash the cream away in like 10 minutes or so . The combination between rice sock and cream is worse than the other one . I couldn't find out how to combine those 3 to work together , so then i read your ideea with plastic wrap and i have to admit that's one hell of an ideea . So hear me out , 20 minutes with steam , tap it with towel to remove the water , apply the cream , wrap it and put the rice sock on top . This combination works more than perfect .

Thank you for your help .
 
Shinto Kayden;601172 said:
The cream part ... The combination between steam and cream is just not the best one . Steam wash the cream away in like 10 minutes or so . The combination between rice sock and cream is worse than the other one . I couldn't find out how to combine those 3 to work together , so then i read your ideea with plastic wrap and i have to admit that's one hell of an ideea . So hear me out , 20 minutes with steam , tap it with towel to remove the water , apply the cream , wrap it and put the rice sock on top . This combination works more than perfect .

Thank you for your help .

what type of cream is this? How come your warm down in 30 minutes? I am wondering what your reasoning is a long warm down like this?

My thought is it would just be better to get in 25 more minutes of PE stretches, hanging, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or whatever PE a person does then just do a 5 minute warm down and then use an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for healing
 
youknowme123321;601174 said:
what type of cream is this? How come your warm down in 30 minutes? I am wondering what your reasoning is a long warm down like this?

My thought is it would just be better to get in 25 more minutes of PE stretches, hanging, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or whatever PE a person does then just do a 5 minute warm down and then use an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for healing

To answer your questions : at the moment i use a Nivea Baby SOS cream , warm down for 30 minutes it feels right and you can't be wrong with hydration in my opinion .

My current routine is 20 minutes warm up with rice sock , 6 sets of streches in all directions including A-Stretch ( wich is the most instense for me ) , 50 jelq , 20 minute pump , 50 jelq , 20 minute pump , 50 jelq , 20 minute pump and the warm down ( the most important part after pumping and stretches in my opinion )
 
Shinto Kayden;601176 said:
To answer your questions : at the moment i use a Nivea Baby SOS cream , warm down for 30 minutes it feels right and you can't be wrong with hydration in my opinion .

My current routine is 20 minutes warm up with rice sock , 6 sets of streches in all directions including A-Stretch ( wich is the most instense for me ) , 50 jelq , 20 minute pump , 50 jelq , 20 minute pump , 50 jelq , 20 minute pump and the warm down ( the most important part after pumping and stretches in my opinion )

nice routine...so you use the Nivea to hydrate the skin after the skin if the penis becomes very mildly fluid depleted from the steam? when you run out of Nivea I have always like Pure cold pressed aloe gel to rehydrate/heal my skin if you are even in the market for something else
 
Satyr;601188 said:
Ok, that is a hell of a routine. 20-30 minutes of warm up and down seems minor compared to the hours you train

Long periods of heat help keep the penis elongated and expanded also. I used to use a heating pad the whole day when I was not training and I was always hanging very long and heavy.
 
youknowme123321;601212 said:
nice routine...so you use the Nivea to hydrate the skin after the skin if the penis becomes very mildly fluid depleted from the steam? when you run out of Nivea I have always like Pure cold pressed aloe gel to rehydrate/heal my skin if you are even in the market for something else

Thank you . I use the cream right after the " infusion " with steam because the skin is more relaxed , as DLD said the penis is more expanded than usual and the blood flow is increased significantly . After i'm out of this cream i surely will try what you recommended .
 
Satyr;601188 said:
Ok, that is a hell of a routine. 20-30 minutes of warm up and down seems minor compared to the hours you train

You are right , this routine require some time. But .. as i learned from bodybuilding , you can't build a muscle in 2 hours of training . That muscle requires thousand of hours , so i apply the same technique in PE .

Patience and consistency are the keys here . As a wise quote says : " Success is a journey "
 
Shinto Kayden;601268 said:
Yes , normally this routine duration is around 2 hours , depend in what mood i am .

2 hours dedicated to the dick for a bigger cock, sounds just right to me!
 
I have always like Pure cold pressed aloe gel to rehydrate/heal my skin

The major compound in Aloe is methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) so that's going to be a great post-exercise lotion for the skin, and for efferocytosis (clearing out metabolic and waste products) in the deeper tissues, and as an anti-inflammatory agent, and for speeding up the production of collagen in healing..

Here's some save-typing info from the web:

"MSM (CH3)2SO2 occurs naturally in many fresh foods but is lost during processing. Its main use in the body is for collagen synthesis, forming skin, blood vessels, hair and nails. Its main benefit is to keep cells, skin and blood vessels elastic, which is the attribute of youth. That is why organic sulphur is often regarded as the beauty mineral. It keeps cell walls permeable so that nutrients can freely flow into the cells and wastes and toxins can easily be removed.

Amino acid chains are usually linked with each other through flexible sulphur bridges. Also the oxidative energy production of cells requires reactive sulphur compounds. Without sufficient organic sulphur as in the form of MSM cells and body structures lose their elasticity and flexibility. The result are the well-known signs of aging: inelastic skin with increasing wrinkles, scar tissue, hardening arteries, varicose veins and also hardened lungs causing emphysema. Sufficient MSM is able to reverse these conditions to a significant degree. The MSM in Aloe Vera is the active ingredient for repairing damaged skin.

MSM is used by athletes to increase [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] and minimize sore muscles. Its use for this purpose is even more widespread with racehorses and greyhounds. This effect may be mainly due to the ability of MSM to greatly increase the body's ability to eliminate metabolic residues, wastes and toxins from the cells."
 
Asanon;601289 said:
The major compound in Aloe is methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) so that's going to be a great post-exercise lotion for the skin, and for efferocytosis (clearing out metabolic and waste products) in the deeper tissues, and as an anti-inflammatory agent, and for speeding up the production of collagen in healing..

Here's some save-typing info from the web:

"MSM (CH3)2SO2 occurs naturally in many fresh foods but is lost during processing. Its main use in the body is for collagen synthesis, forming skin, blood vessels, hair and nails. Its main benefit is to keep cells, skin and blood vessels elastic, which is the attribute of youth. That is why organic sulphur is often regarded as the beauty mineral. It keeps cell walls permeable so that nutrients can freely flow into the cells and wastes and toxins can easily be removed.

Amino acid chains are usually linked with each other through flexible sulphur bridges. Also the oxidative energy production of cells requires reactive sulphur compounds. Without sufficient organic sulphur as in the form of MSM cells and body structures lose their elasticity and flexibility. The result are the well-known signs of aging: inelastic skin with increasing wrinkles, scar tissue, hardening arteries, varicose veins and also hardened lungs causing emphysema. Sufficient MSM is able to reverse these conditions to a significant degree. The MSM in Aloe Vera is the active ingredient for repairing damaged skin.

MSM is used by athletes to increase [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] and minimize sore muscles. Its use for this purpose is even more widespread with racehorses and greyhounds. This effect may be mainly due to the ability of MSM to greatly increase the body's ability to eliminate metabolic residues, wastes and toxins from the cells."

nice info share...my grandmother has drank aloe every day of her life!! she is 83 and super healthy!!! that's why i have always believe in its benefits and love it
 
Shinto Kayden;601268 said:
Yes , normally this routine duration is around 2 hours , depend in what mood i am .

I do two hours split into two workouts so I'm right there with you. Some times it's hard to stop once I get started lol.
 
dmoney101;601357 said:
I do two hours split into two workouts so I'm right there with you. Some times it's hard to stop once I get started lol.

two 60 minute sessions a day is pro! This will definitely bring great gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;601994 said:
two 60 minute sessions a day is pro! This will definitely bring great gains.

I try my best. Schedule is starting to get really busy again, but I make sure I get at least an hour a day and if it's just 1 session, I stretch hard enough to wear my arms out haha
 
dmoney101;602059 said:
I try my best. Schedule is starting to get really busy again, but I make sure I get at least an hour a day and if it's just 1 session, I stretch hard enough to wear my arms out haha

That is the way to stretch! And when your arms are no longer strong enough the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] will fix that problem!
 
i fill up a big cup of water and sit over the tub with a sock wrapped around my penis and keep reaaplying water cuz dipping/reapplying would take longer i also strecch while warming up helps alot
 
jacob5414;604843 said:
i fill up a big cup of water and sit over the tub with a sock wrapped around my penis and keep reaaplying water cuz dipping/reapplying would take longer i also strecch while warming up helps alot

Sounds like a perfect warm up/down.
 
Is there anyone who was known to have made good gains without warming up and down? I never do it except to use my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Used to, but didn't see any difference.
 
dmoney101;605417 said:
Is there anyone who was known to have made good gains without warming up and down? I never do it except to use my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Used to, but didn't see any difference.

I warm up by just going light in the first few minutes of exercise no matter what it is, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words], Stretching, Jelqing, etc. I spend about 2-3 minutes of light work and progressively work up to max. On the warm down I will use a hot wrap or a heating pad because I feel this helps the gains stick around longer.
 
Hey there . I was thinking , after the work out , instead of rice sock , wouldn't be better to use steam ? I know from the cosmetics things that steam open the pores and could be a lot easier for the cream to absorb into the skin . What do you guys think ?

I've been gaining without warming up and warming down. I see warm up and warm down as something for newbies in PE.
 
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Without warmup I would not have gained fast. It would have been harder to deform the tunica, in order to stretch it out, and promote cell division. A cold penis can't be stretched as good as a warm penis.

If I had a sauna I would stretch in there on low heat.
 
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