Sounds good I’ll give it a look further down the line... I managed to get the l.m on the other night n used it to hang for 10 mins or so with just over 1kg n it felt ok, I masterbated earlier on n pumped semi perfect straight after then strapped up while my penis was still quite engorged. Maybe this is how I need to wrap? As my flaccid is small n just gets squished up hah
 
Stripeee;753871 said:
Sounds good I’ll give it a look further down the line... I managed to get the l.m on the other night n used it to hang for 10 mins or so with just over 1kg n it felt ok, I masterbated earlier on n pumped semi perfect straight after then strapped up while my penis was still quite engorged. Maybe this is how I need to wrap? As my flaccid is small n just gets squished up hah

Sounds good. You would want to wrap after length to keep the elongation going and you will want to use a cock ring to retain the pumps asap.
 
Stripeee;754459 said:
what do you mean wrap after length?

If you do not own a Phalosan or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] your can use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words], but after every length session make sure you wrap to keep the penis in an elongated position whilst healing.
 
I’ve got some actually that came with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]! I’ll try tomorrow and reply ASAP
 
Stripeee;754537 said:
I’ve got some actually that came with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]! I’ll try tomorrow and reply ASAP

How did that work out Strip?
 
Well quite well I’d say...I stretched outward as much as I could then began the wrap as tightly as possible...I was wrapped for about 15 to 20 minutes and it felt good tbh. Any tips or advice?
 
Stripeee;754639 said:
Well quite well I’d say...I stretched outward as much as I could then began the wrap as tightly as possible...I was wrapped for about 15 to 20 minutes and it felt good tbh. Any tips or advice?

Since you got it down replace all stretching with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] stretching. All stretches can be done with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and you will have endless intensity! I can't wait to hear your reviews.
 
Hmm still a working progress I’d say, I can’t stretch very hard as the wrap slips off...same with hanging but the foundation is there. In regards to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap how long should I wear it? I can manage 15 to 20 minutes atm before I need to release it
 
Stripeee;754799 said:
Hmm still a working progress I’d say, I can’t stretch very hard as the wrap slips off...same with hanging but the foundation is there. In regards to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap how long should I wear it? I can manage 15 to 20 minutes atm before I need to release it

If you are having slippage I refer you to the wrapping forum to try other wraps, most men need to experiment with a few styles before finding what works best for them. Do not get discouraged, you will what works perfectly for you through trying different methods. I can go 30 minutes in the wrap before needing to rewrap. It has been this way since I came out with the UJ [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] Wrap. After 30 minutes I take on fluid and need to take off, restore circulation and rewrap. Some men can go much longer but to me, a reward every half hour is smart as you can tighten up the wrap.
 
ITs worth a look, hopefully I can find something satisfactory. I’m still struggling with length results tho! Whenever I feel like I’m getting a good stretch technique it goes n I lose my grip, on top of that my penis just turtles up shortly after? Why am I struggling so much to make length gains?
 
Stripeee;754904 said:
ITs worth a look, hopefully I can find something satisfactory. I’m still struggling with length results tho! Whenever I feel like I’m getting a good stretch technique it goes n I lose my grip, on top of that my penis just turtles up shortly after? Why am I struggling so much to make length gains?

That is why you need to get into the wrapping forum and choose a better wrap that does not slip. I can imagine how irritating it must be when there is slippage as it makes it hard to gain. Once you master a wrap that is comfortable you will be able to go very intense. When I was first starting hanging I could not hang more than 10 pounds without pinching and slippage. It was so fucking frustrating! I finally asked Stillwantmore for advice and he showed me his technique of wrapping. I started to use that and I was able to go from 10 pounds with pinching and slippage to 70 pounds of pure stretch and comfort with 0% slippage. It is all about the wrap!
 
Excellent stuff, i know it is possible just can’t seem to get anything right with p.e. Anything in regards to turtling and no flaccid length gains?
 
Stripeee;755012 said:
Excellent stuff, i know it is possible just can’t seem to get anything right with p.e. Anything in regards to turtling and no flaccid length gains?

Have you considered the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to aid in increasing flaccid size? It is the best way out there. You could also avoid wrapping using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] by using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] connection. At the very least you should practice [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrapping to increase flaccid size. Flaccid size is all about teaching your dick to remain elongated and heavy throughout the day. The penis naturally turtles as a protection for the penis when not in use. You need to change this by consistent and constant tension on the flaccid penis. Also, if privacy allows electric heating pads used for hours after training also help the penis to remain elongated. Do not give up, just search deeper. We will get you gaining no matter how long it takes.
 
I have started to use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] wrap but after 15 to 20 minutes my penis is completely senseless and I unwrap, is this normal, and should I re wrap after? Another problem is I don’t have time during the day to constantly keep re wrapping n heating etc, I come home do some stretching shower then do some s r t work, then put on. Head band cock-ring a couple times
 
Stripeee;755035 said:
I have started to use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] wrap but after 15 to 20 minutes my penis is completely senseless and I unwrap, is this normal, and should I re wrap after? Another problem is I don’t have time during the day to constantly keep re wrapping n heating etc, I come home do some stretching shower then do some s r t work, then put on. Head band cock-ring a couple times

I can only go for 30 minutes between wraps but it is a pain that is why the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is so great, there is no need to take off for hours. It is pricy but worth the investment on two levels, maybe 3. First it is an amazing active gaining device, meaning under heavy load you are making gains, next it is a wonderful passive tool, to keep you extended while healing. The 3rd, which has to do with modification. If you have a SizeGentcis laying around you can combine the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and make the PhalloGenetics, an insanely powerful active modification.
 
I deliberated between the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and the l.m but opted for the l.m for its versatility (hanging and stretching) but I’ve had difficulties with it so will look in to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], but the concern isn’t that I’ve spent a lot of money on p.e already with practically zero results
 
If you've had 'zero results' then it's more a 'routine thing' than it is an 'equipment thing'. PE is basic physics...you impart enough force against something and it will eventually move
 
Big Schwanz Acht;755123 said:
If you've had 'zero results' then it's more a 'routine thing' than it is an 'equipment thing'. PE is basic physics...you impart enough force against something and it will eventually move

True and the one thing that can get in the way of gains is self. When we think that we can not gain or we dwell on the lack of gains it subconsciously holds us back when training. Without even knowing it a man will hold himself back from gaining. What is most important in gaining is intensity and time under intensity. First it is vital to know your grey area, between gain and injury. We should always be in this zone as this is where gains come fastest. Finding this area takes a little bit of experimenting but with diligence you can find that area. As time progresses you will need to increase intensity to keep gains going. I would create a new routine and let us critique it for you. There are many routines to model after, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is best. Make a good selection based on time, equipment, privacy, etc. From there we can advise. Everyone can gain, if gains are not coming we will find out why and get you gaining. As Big stated, it is all basic physics.
 
I just don’t know what to do anymore! There’s so many types of stretching and types of equipment required I really don’t know where to turn, when I do try something I don’t know if I’m doing it right anyway because I don’t notice any real difference.

A current routine is something like;
Upward bundled stretch with kegels to warm up
Downward left b-t-c x3 30s
“ Right “
Straight down stretch with rotaries x3 30s + 20 rotaries
Then either some DLD a-stretch blasters (50 reps would take too long so I usually do half) or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] stretches upward n downward.
After I try to do some erect stretches but I can’t feel anything tbh, then go on to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] work which is just a generic pump and jelq, sometimes my erection level is high, sometimes it’s lower so jelqing is mixed intensity.

After I wrap a head band around my penis base to retain a pump but later I take it off to allow circulation but it just goes and my penis has a puffy patch just below the glans.

There’s so much more I’ve read on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread and simply don’t understand.
 
Do you pump until you feel like your dick is going to explode? If not, find that fine-line between pain and injury, then get used to the 'pain' part. PE ain't pretty and it ain't EZ
 
Big Schwanz Acht;755226 said:
Do you pump until you feel like your dick is going to explode? If not, find that fine-line between pain and injury, then get used to the 'pain' part. PE ain't pretty and it ain't EZ

That says it all and much better than the way I said it! In all PE there is a grey area and when that is found it is a great thing!
 
I pump to a point where the pump doesn’t allow any more water out and I build up to this max level by pumping a little more every minute or so (out of 5) otherwise I end up with a massive donut/water build up?
 
Stripeee;755276 said:
I pump to a point where the pump doesn’t allow any more water out and I build up to this max level by pumping a little more every minute or so (out of 5) otherwise I end up with a massive donut/water build up?

How long are you in the tube for?
 
Most of the time I’ll do 3x5 minutes and I spend around 2 minutes at max pressure. Sometimes I’ll do two sets of a longer duration if my e.q is lower.
 
Stripeee;757037 said:
Most of the time I’ll do 3x5 minutes and I spend around 2 minutes at max pressure. Sometimes I’ll do two sets of a longer duration if my e.q is lower.

I would try a different but just as equal approach. Try going 2 x2 x2 x2, meaning 2 minutes in tube max pressure and than 2 minutes of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] or Jelqs in between. Repeat this 4 times and I guaranty the donut will reduce and the expansion increases. Some men just need to switch thing up a bit to see a different result. Let me know how this goes.
 
I’ll keep going as I have been with the 5x5x3 as it feels like my penis is expanding somewhat and the water retention has decreased. After I have done the s.r.t I have been getting erect then wrapping with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words], this does feel quite good as my penis is kept in its erect size but eventually becomes soft...will this promote gains tho you think?
 
Stripeee;757153 said:
I’ll keep going as I have been with the 5x5x3 as it feels like my penis is expanding somewhat and the water retention has decreased. After I have done the s.r.t I have been getting erect then wrapping with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words], this does feel quite good as my penis is kept in its erect size but eventually becomes soft...will this promote gains tho you think?

Indeed it will but remain consistent, being sure to gain expansion daily to bring gains fastest You should see at least a .25" temp. gain after the 5x5x3. Some see up to an inch and more. This will be done consistently and as time progresses temporary become permanent and the process repeats.
 
well I've had a week off of p.e. as I've been getting very frustrated and stressed lately so felt i needed a break! I'm going to be starting again in the coming week. however I've had a very serious thought, that i have been training too much that's why I've made no length gains??? i'm thinking i will stretch 4 days a week and pump (5x5x3) 3 times a week. is this potentially the reason why i am getting nowhere?
 
also as i'm severely struggling with length (flaccid and erect) i'm thinking of getting sort form of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]...I've looked at the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. i am however reluctant to spend huge sums of money as i've spent a lot already and gotten nowhere, especially the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], so i would appreciate all advice. many thanks!!!
 
Stripeee;757834 said:
also as i'm severely struggling with length (flaccid and erect) i'm thinking of getting sort form of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]...I've looked at the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. i am however reluctant to spend huge sums of money as i've spent a lot already and gotten nowhere, especially the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], so i would appreciate all advice. many thanks!!!

I already created a thread asking questions about the penis master. If I get positive feedback on that thread, then it will make so much sense to buy the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] and Penis Master. Combining both devices will take you to your length goal. Even with only the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] being used with the right amount of intensity will still take you to your goal.
 
What happens when I don’t make any gains and the device just slips off and causes discomfort? I’ve spent lots more money and wasted more precious time that’s what...so far I’ve spent a year and a half making no gains! I want to keep trying and I will but not sure how many more setbacks I can take before my patience well and truly breaks.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;755226 said:
Do you pump until you feel like your dick is going to explode? If not, find that fine-line between pain and injury, then get used to the 'pain' part. PE ain't pretty and it ain't EZ

This particular comment should be made as a sticky post for those that has been pumping for up to a month. This is the truth about gaining girth.
 
Stripeee;757896 said:
What happens when I don’t make any gains and the device just slips off and causes discomfort? I’ve spent lots more money and wasted more precious time that’s what...so far I’ve spent a year and a half making no gains! I want to keep trying and I will but not sure how many more setbacks I can take before my patience well and truly breaks.

I would change the entire routine and start fresh. Any one routine should produce gains in 3 months. If no gains are made there is not enough intensity or you just need more intensity than other men. When gains would stop for me I always went back to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] and started all over. Today I would go from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] allows for much intensity and gives a wide spectrum of exercise to get size fastest. Most people modify [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and that is exactly what should be done, understand the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] concept and then implement all that applies to you.
 
Hey, DLD can I just do bundled blasters A stretch,and pump, I have a 12 inch penis air pump,is the pressure in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] real intence, more than a air pump?
 
rlue11;758010 said:
Hey, DLD can I just do bundled blasters A stretch,and pump, I have a 12 inch penis air pump,is the pressure in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] real intence, more than a air pump?

Yes you can, that is just fine. As far as pumps go Water is just so much better than Air. It is more natural and works in unison with the body, being mostly water. It is far more comfortable and less of a chance of hurting yourself through air blisters and discoloration. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] is also on sale if it is something you want to venture into, I am not sure how long the discount will be in place. Check it out in my signature.
 
H2O is far denser than air which allows for a more stable and even pressure applied to your body...and with The VacuVin mod, you'll have all the power you'll need
 
Big Schwanz Acht;758149 said:
H2O is far denser than air which allows for a more stable and even pressure applied to your body...and with The VacuVin mod, you'll have all the power you'll need

Never thought of it on that level but so true. Another reason the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] beats the air-pumps.
 
Hey guys some more upbeat updates...ive looked up some wrapping vids and I think I may have cracked it! I have devised a 10 week routine, that involves hanging, that I’m hoping will bring me some good fast length gains.

100 kegels blasters, bundled.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power assist[/words] stretches (left, right, up, down, b.t.c left and right) x2 (am I right in thinking this is expressive)
Minimum of 25 DLD blasters
Then some hanging For 20 mins (when I can fit it in)
Then some s.r.t pumping (5x5x3) with varying erection level

Any thoughts or advice?
 
Stripeee;758652 said:
Hey guys some more upbeat updates...ive looked up some wrapping vids and I think I may have cracked it! I have devised a 10 week routine, that involves hanging, that I’m hoping will bring me some good fast length gains.

100 kegels blasters, bundled.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power assist[/words] stretches (left, right, up, down, b.t.c left and right) x2 (am I right in thinking this is expressive)
Minimum of 25 DLD blasters
Then some hanging For 20 mins (when I can fit it in)
Then some s.r.t pumping (5x5x3) with varying erection level

Any thoughts or advice?


Looks like an awesome routine. On your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] stretching it would be Expressive if you attached the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] at a low point on the shaft. Any high point will stretch outer penis, low points stretch inner penis. 20 minutes of hanging is the maximum time I would do a set. If going with hanging I would try to get three sets in otherwise I would skip the hanging and give more in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] stretching side of things. Hanging is really only profitable when you can get at least 3 sets a day of 20 minutes per set. The Girth work is perfect, no better workout. Getting the Bundled stretches in is the best way to start your routine so that looks good too.
 
I thought that using the circle/loop on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] handle was a form of expressive stretching. What is it’s benefits and sole purpose if this is not the case?

In regards to hanging how often should I do the 3x20 mins? I was thinking I could have a day where I do this as a form of light/easy training after rest days and before I start more full workouts. Would once a week be sufficient?
 
Stripeee;758873 said:
I thought that using the circle/loop on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] handle was a form of expressive stretching. What is it’s benefits and sole purpose if this is not the case?

In regards to hanging how often should I do the 3x20 mins? I was thinking I could have a day where I do this as a form of light/easy training after rest days and before I start more full workouts. Would once a week be sufficient?

Yes, the Hole Stretching is done with the middle loop of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. You simply work your way through the loop and push against the pelvic bone, than using both hands stretch the base of the penis outward. But you can also attach the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] chamber to a low point on your penis and do Expressive Stretching that way too. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is very versatile.

If you want to go that routine I would say 3 days a week you train 3 sets of 20 minutes. This is a minimum but in conjunction with all else you are doing, it should all be profitable.
 
I don’t see how I can grip and stretch my penis from the base as the skin just slides forward? let alone with the l.m

Ok well I’ll assess how I can incorporate hanging In to a regular part of training. Tbh tho I’m still having some issues with the wrapping, I feel like I’ve found the right path but it just feels like my skin isn’t being pushed forward and my shaft isn’t really being stretched.
 
Stripeee;759137 said:
I don’t see how I can grip and stretch my penis from the base as the skin just slides forward? let alone with the l.m

Ok well I’ll assess how I can incorporate hanging In to a regular part of training. Tbh tho I’m still having some issues with the wrapping, I feel like I’ve found the right path but it just feels like my skin isn’t being pushed forward and my shaft isn’t really being stretched.

Then I would suggest going with Hole Stretching using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. This is a very powerful way to do expressive stretching. As far as wrap goes I suggest going to the wrapping forum and try a few different wraps, there are many ways and I am sure one will work for you as it has for everyone.
 
I’ve tried to grip near the base and I ended up doing a sort of tugging back and forth like masterbating, it was quite vigorous and felt fatigue after. Has anyone done anything like this?/is this an actual exercise?

The wrap I have tried kinda works but it still doesn’t feel like my shaft is being worked, it’s more like my skin is being squeezed and stretched forward, should the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] feel like this?
 
Stripeee;759294 said:
I’ve tried to grip near the base and I ended up doing a sort of tugging back and forth like masterbating, it was quite vigorous and felt fatigue after. Has anyone done anything like this?/is this an actual exercise?

The wrap I have tried kinda works but it still doesn’t feel like my shaft is being worked, it’s more like my skin is being squeezed and stretched forward, should the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] feel like this?

As long as the grip in near the base you are doing expressive stretching.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] at first will stretch any restrictive skin tightness along the shaft and to the base and scrotum. This takes some time, maybe 2 weeks. From there you will be stretching pure penis. One thing that keep men from gaining is having skin that is too tight now allowing stretches to be a profitable as they can. An even bigger factor is the Tunica which can be a pain to stretch this is where the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] shines as it forces the Tunica to expand. In long term length work, making gains consistency to goal the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] is the joint. I hope you can get it down and master it.
 
Hey everyone I’ve finished my 10 week kickstart programme. I’m pretty certain I have gained around .15 in length with some girth to, I’m going to measure again first thing tomorrow morning to make sure the measurements are consistent.

I was hoping for more I won’t lie, and I’m still frustrated with pe. Tbh. Even my best efforts over 10 weeks, still don’t seem like much. Stretching is hit and miss as sometimes my hands just slip and I’m just pinching excess skin, sometimes my pump doesn’t feel like it’s doing much and post workout there is nothing significant to feel pleased about.

I’ve started to use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] a few times and I can see that it may be my next route to go down, I just need to adapt the wrap some more. I am considering getting an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words] but I’m not sure what to do. I hope by the end of 2018 I will be 6 inches in length.
 
Stripeee;764740 said:
So I took the measurements again this morning and there was no apparent gain 😔

Do not be frustrated bro. Use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] if you can stay consistent with it. Also buy the PenilMasterPro and use it in combination with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. You will make quick gains if you can get both of those devices.
 
How come the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words]? I though about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] as it’s the most talked about. I even saw a new [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] developed by PE gym which looked decent, albeit basic and low priced.

I hope the l.m will help me now coz whatever I do doesn’t seem to work.
 
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