Routine check in.
I’ve looked over it a few times actually. Btw how before a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] is shipped?
Hey bud , I feel your pain regarding you not gaining in the ten months you have been training but don't worry as I feel it can be rectified. You don't own the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] yet so what I would suggest is getting some rubber gloves or weight lifting chalk to aid in your grip. From here I suggest a lot of downward stretches as hard as you can and for a duration longer than you are used to.
Some of us need much more intensity than others to gain and I'm one of them. Try to wrap up after each session removing after an hour or so and do a few more downward stretches before putting it back on. When you finally feel that ache at the base of your cock you will know you are on the right path .
Peace bro and stick with it .
Some of us need much more intensity than others to gain and I'm one of them. Try to wrap up after each session removing after an hour or so and do a few more downward stretches before putting it back on. When you finally feel that ache at the base of your cock you will know you are on the right path .
Peace bro and stick with it .
jekyllnhyde360
Well-known member
im not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but certain people (such as myself) only gain when the grip is right below the glans (if you have foreskin pull it back) and use baby powder to get a proper grip.
i have no idea how people make gains without it.
Also, if you really want to bust the plateau, do 2000-2500 straight upward jelqs, with a tight grip, so you're actually pulling the head past it's capacity each jelq. you should try to keep it between 45-65% erect, the elasticity with semi rigid formation really helps push for length gains. but if you're to limp it won't work, and if you're to hard it won't work.
also, the jelqs should be 1 sec, not three.
baby powder, upwards tight semi erect quick jelqs, and doing jelqs before stretching works great, as in jelqs in am, stretching in pm.
i have no idea how people make gains without it.
Also, if you really want to bust the plateau, do 2000-2500 straight upward jelqs, with a tight grip, so you're actually pulling the head past it's capacity each jelq. you should try to keep it between 45-65% erect, the elasticity with semi rigid formation really helps push for length gains. but if you're to limp it won't work, and if you're to hard it won't work.
also, the jelqs should be 1 sec, not three.
baby powder, upwards tight semi erect quick jelqs, and doing jelqs before stretching works great, as in jelqs in am, stretching in pm.
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Yeah it’s definelty frustrating, I’ve started to do lots of downward stretching while I’m waiting for my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and I’ve started to change how I pump to, I go in after I’ve done girth work and stretching so I’ve got a nice bit of expansion but my penis is in a kind of relaxed and flaccid state and that’s how I pump. Anyone ever tried pumping when basically flaccid? I get practically 0 fluid retention and my flaccid appears to be a bit longer and thicker.
Stripeee;743916 said:
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@Big Schwanz Acht
Stripeee;743916 said:
only when I lose concentration...my best results occur from pumping with the highest EQ for the longest I can muster (up to 10 mins)
Big Schwanz Acht;743941 said:
I agree with this and have thought this way for a while. Let us say that a session in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] brings 20% expansion and your penis is at 80% erect, pumping is not doing anything but keeping you at you 100% size. If we take that same 20% and go in at 90% now you will add 10% expansion above your 100% size. I always worked as close to erect as possible.
Stripeee;744023 said:
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Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
Stripeee;744023 said:
Here's what I do and it seems to work pretty well:
I have a tablet that I can put-on any type of 'inspirational' video and have it running in the shower. If I still have a bit of residual vitamin V or C in my system, this clearly assists in maintaining EQ. I start-out at just enough pressure to keep the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] secure for hands-free normal shower duties (I shave in the shower too, so this stage of the session is usually 5-7 minutes). I remove, refill, and do as many squeezes as necessary to ward-off any FR that may have built-up...re-enter and then pump to 100% (you'll know when you hit this stage cuz you're no longer able to draw-out any more water and your d!ck is going to feel like it's gonna explode! I hold this for a few minutes and then release a bit of pressure, then slowly ramp-up to 100% again. I do this for another 5-7 minutes, then remove/squeeze/rinse/repeat.
Big Schwanz Acht;744054 said:
And this is how you get yourself a fucking fat cock!! I'll be following all your advice as soon as I have a new [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] . You truly are the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] king!
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
more like the 'plagiarizing king'...my routine is a conglomeration of ideas, experiments and philosophy from the pages of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]...sprinkle a bit of OCD dedication, and voila!
I’ve given the tight grip-upward jelqing a tryout today and after 5 minutes my dick had erupted leaking blood, there is still in underlying issue there unfortunately. As for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] work I’ve tried the 5x5x3 routine and I just couldn’t remain erect enough throughout and my foreskin just rolled up when I attempted to jelq in between sets.
So basically I’ve come to the conclusion that ive just been cursed with a really crappy penis!
So basically I’ve come to the conclusion that ive just been cursed with a really crappy penis!
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
Stripeee;744149 said:
it'll be that much more satisfying when you've transformed it into the beast that it will become
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
doing the same routine and expecting different results is 'chasing a lost cause'. If you find something isn't working, it's time to switch-it-up. Vary intensity/time of each exercise and most importantly, be the one in charge! All your gains will be due to your hard-work and dedication...don't let your own d!ck beat you
Big Schwanz Acht;744179 said:
Words from the wise!!
But that’s what I don’t get I’ve tried various combinations of stretching, jelqing and pumping but I cannot seem to find anything where I am able to get any results. What I’ve been doing lately has felt a bit better but even then it doesn’t progress or there’s always an issue. I’m sorry for being ‘that guy’ on the forum but I can’t help this negativity, whenever I try anything it never succeeds no matter how hard I try.
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
Stripeee;744235 said:
PE is and 'Art' AND a Science. The 'Art' portion is that mixture of exercises/diet/rest/equipment that yield results for your particular body/goals. The science part works because the Laws of Physics do not vary...the basic 'how much force' is required to move an object or 'the longer lever the greater force'. You'll just have to find 'that lever' to provide enough 'force' to see gains.
If you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], mod it...if you have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], use it...if you have nothing, go manual
Big Schwanz Acht;744068 said:
It would seem to be a recipe for success,
I spend around 2 months doing any one given routine but then I notice no change and think to myself that I’m doing something wrong and change it up. This is what I just don’t get, I’m stretching as hard as I can but am I gaining length, NO. Admittedly I am a little girthier and with good e.q feel a bit harder than before but not enough overall change.
I have come to the conclusion that the reason why am not gaining length is because of my foreskin. Every time I stretch the frenulum and skin just limit the stretch and hinder my grip. A private operation of some kind is looking increasingly likely. I’ve started to do what was suggested regarding tight upward jelqs, i can feel the base of my penis under strain so hopefully this will yield results, especially seeing as my Base thickness has improved a little.
Regarding b.m and l.m work, with the b.m I just end up with fluid retention around my glans if I do it to hard/too long, and as for l.m I attempted hanging after i managed to get a tight wrap but it dawned on my that my foreskin was under strain less so my shaft, also the wrap had slid on to my glans.
I have come to the conclusion that the reason why am not gaining length is because of my foreskin. Every time I stretch the frenulum and skin just limit the stretch and hinder my grip. A private operation of some kind is looking increasingly likely. I’ve started to do what was suggested regarding tight upward jelqs, i can feel the base of my penis under strain so hopefully this will yield results, especially seeing as my Base thickness has improved a little.
Regarding b.m and l.m work, with the b.m I just end up with fluid retention around my glans if I do it to hard/too long, and as for l.m I attempted hanging after i managed to get a tight wrap but it dawned on my that my foreskin was under strain less so my shaft, also the wrap had slid on to my glans.
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
every person is different and it takes lots of patience/practice...but I'm not going to 'buy into' the fact that you're the 'one' guy that can't gain. You sound like an introspective, intelligent man so figure it out.
Big Schwanz Acht;745777 said:
A penis is a penis, not much differences from man to man, a head, a shaft and a couple of balls
Every man can gain as every man has the same body part with differences being is size only. If you are not gaining it is because you either are not putting in enough effort (intensity), using incorrect form, using outdated exercise, inconsistent training, a complete disbelief in the system, any of these things can be a culprit to a lag or stop in gains.I’m not saying I’m the only guy not gaining coz I’m certain there are a fair few others having difficulties, I just feel like I have hindrances that others may or may not have which are affecting my workout capabilities, I.e excess foreskin, high&tight frenulum small glans&big hands. I do believe the practice that is p.e. Works, I really do, but I’m just conflicted as to whether or not I am capable of making it work? So far it hasn’t as I would’ve hoped, but I will keep trying. Big Schwanz Acht thank you for your belief in me, that’s why I write these deep essay-esque posts because I’m trying to figure out every detail from every angle I can hoping that you guys can fill in the Blanks I come across
Stripeee;745996 said:
We will find what is going on and fix it. If you are not gaining there is a definite reason and that is what we need to focus on. It may be one of many things that could be hindering gains from form to intensity and everything in between. Some men need much more intensity than others, some men have poor form in the exercises, some have fear of injury so they back off too much, there are so many reasons but if we can narrow your issue down we can put together a routine that will work. Never give up, always keep going! Do not quit before the miracle!
i'm sure there is a reason but it just bothers me that i put in may hours and much dedication to p.e and haven't gained like everyone else. It makes it p.e difficult psychologically which was never a problem for the 1st 3 months.
fear of injury is a slight problem because stretching intensely has lead to my glans bleeding but that could have been bad form also i keep stretching even when i can feel my frenulum pinching in my grip, intensity could be a possibility so i now try to minimise pausing between my stretches, although i find training with a higher level of erection hard because i become less aroused as i due to the repetition of the jelqing etc.
i just don't understand what is going wrong because it's not even like my penis is bigger when flaccid and gains are on the way, as my temporary gains just dissolve away very quickly and do not stay either.
fear of injury is a slight problem because stretching intensely has lead to my glans bleeding but that could have been bad form also i keep stretching even when i can feel my frenulum pinching in my grip, intensity could be a possibility so i now try to minimise pausing between my stretches, although i find training with a higher level of erection hard because i become less aroused as i due to the repetition of the jelqing etc.
i just don't understand what is going wrong because it's not even like my penis is bigger when flaccid and gains are on the way, as my temporary gains just dissolve away very quickly and do not stay either.
Stripeee;746665 said:
Perhaps you are subconsciously holding back from the fear of your previous injury. I can tell you that many of us have had that same issue with blood from the glans and it usually only happens once. It is not bad form, it is simply a rip to tear in the urethra from being stretched. I would start again with a very simple routine. Maybe one that focuses exclusively on either length or girth so you can fully concentrate on the work at hand. Use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] as your starting point. Start with gentle and safe intensity and progressively build up to you maximum intensity. If done progressively there will be no injury. You want to find where you can apply the most intensity without injury.
i have considered going back to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] actually, although i have started using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] that came with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and it does feel more intense doing the angled stretches etc. so i may try this a while longer and see if there are results. i'm trying to kegel more also.
in regards to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] work if i have high e/q n arousal then ii will try the 5x5x3 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] with ssjs if not i will pump flaccid after strteching n some jelq work for 10minsx2 which seems to help my flaccid size n girth.
above all else i have begun the process for a arranging a circumcision, it will be done in the new year so hopefully 2018 will lead to the gains i have been looking for when i started this crusade.
in regards to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] work if i have high e/q n arousal then ii will try the 5x5x3 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] with ssjs if not i will pump flaccid after strteching n some jelq work for 10minsx2 which seems to help my flaccid size n girth.
above all else i have begun the process for a arranging a circumcision, it will be done in the new year so hopefully 2018 will lead to the gains i have been looking for when i started this crusade.
Stripeee;747019 said:
It sounds like you have the determination strip and that will work in your favor. As for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], even if the eq is low, don't skip the session. I have had this a few times and I will substitute [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] for wet jelqs and I still get good expansion. I have started doing wet jelqs prior to my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session and this seems to get the blood circulating and helps with extension and expansion during my session. I know you were considering the circumcision and I see you are moving forward with that part. Keep your head up and don't give up, you will get there
Stripeee;747019 said:
Using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] within the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] is perfect. Simply use your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]/PowerAssist to do all stretching and use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] and the 5x5x3 for your girth. Follow the remainder of the program which includes Kegel work, a bit of massage and some other minor additions.
that's kind of what I've thought about doing. i like my training to be done in one sweep, stretch then girth essentially. i try to do my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] stretches bundled to as i find the grip a bit stronger.
Stripeee;747242 said:
With the exception of my PF, I do my length and girth session consecutively in the evening. It works well for me
The extreme model is a kit that includes a carry case, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]comfort pad[/words], hand pump, hand pump attachment tube, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]cleaning kit[/words] and a collapsible ruler. The tube can be attached to the hand pump and then the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] or you can just put the hand pump directly on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]
Stripeee;747337 said:
You would use them the same way. Since you have the extreme model you can use the hand pump to increase the pressure. Just be careful if you are just starting out with it, work your way up before you go with full pressure, that thing is powerful when you use the pump. You take the pump and close the pip at the top and fill with water, place over cock, press against the pelvic area to start a seal. Open the pip on top of the valve and use the hand pump to take the pressure up.
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
Stripeee;747397 said:
I'd suggest spending the $20usd (or less) on the VacuVin mod...total game-changer
i've tried the vacu vin thing and it wouldn't fit properly so i sent it back. the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x30[/words] feels a lot different to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hercules[/words] and is harder to pump? i'm not sure why
Big Schwanz Acht
@Big Schwanz Acht
Stripeee;747529 said:
The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] may need some time to 'break-in'...sorry to hear you couldn't get the VV to work...there are several tutorials here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I'd highly suggest giving it another try, there's no better mod out there, imo
Big Schwanz Acht;747534 said:
BSA is right, those new [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiters[/words] are pretty stiff, mine was when I first got it. It took a few pumping sessions to get it where it was easier to pump.