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Hey guys.

When I use my PhalloGenetics mod (although I'm using the Miracle Slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]), I can stretch my flacid penis out really far, even a bit longer than my BPEL. It also looks really thin when stretched out fully in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

But when I do manual stretching or even stretching with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], I can't stretch it that far. It feels like something holds it back. That's also why can't properly measure my BPFSL, because I can't stretch it out to full length!

It's difficult to explain, but I found this thread on Th*nd3rs Pl@ce about it, don't know if I'm allowed to post it here. Now I'm worried that I'm doing all my stretching in vain because that "steel cord" thing is keeping me from making any length gains!

This is the post I'm talking about:

https://www.Th*nd3rs Pl@ce.org/peni...-are-limited-by-dorsal-thickening-septum.html

If that's not allowed just remove it.
 
Th*nd3rs Pl@ce is only good at "mental masturbation", but they aren't smart, aren't understanding, they're shit. Don't hang out there.
The phallogenetics mod is giving you the illusion that you're longer because of the vacuum inside the bell expanding your glans.
 
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templnite;653923 said:
Th*nd3rs Pl@ce is only good at "mental masturbation", but they aren't smart, aren't understanding, they're shit. Don't hang out there.
The phallogenetics mod is giving you the illusion that you're longer because of the vacuum inside the bell expanding your glans.

Yeah I'm not around that place much, I was looking for tunica stretching on google and somehow landed there.

But it's not an illusion. With my hands, I can't stretch my penis as far as I can within the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
 
I don't think this is something you should be worried about. For me, I only keep an eye on my erect length and longer flaccid without stretching it.
 
Yea bro whatever do don't be "afraid" of anything the thundersplacers say. They have a spontaneous boner, and immediately apply mastermind's hammer exercise (crying) because an erection has "too much intensity". Like I said mental masturbation, they dream up too many reasons not to PE so they never progress.
 
templnite;653934 said:
They have a spontaneous boner, and immediately apply mastermind's hammer exercise (crying) because an erection has "too much intensity".
lol
 
I deal whit a similar situation still stucked whit 7+ bone pressing n my meaduring day is getting closer,I still have like 38 days left,but would be lame seeing no gains,increasing intensity could be the key this time.....
 
MoS-Newbie;653918 said:
Hey guys.

When I use my PhalloGenetics mod (although I'm using the Miracle Slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]), I can stretch my flacid penis out really far, even a bit longer than my BPEL. It also looks really thin when stretched out fully in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

But when I do manual stretching or even stretching with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], I can't stretch it that far. It feels like something holds it back. That's also why can't properly measure my BPFSL, because I can't stretch it out to full length!

It's difficult to explain,



It's not too difficult, German Stallion wrote about this in the GS Paradoxical Pullout thread.

You put up mental resistance to the stretch and are unable to relax enough to stretch longer, which is why you have to "sneak up" on the penis to stretch it further.

It's like trying to tickle yourself and failing to do so, but someone else can do it with ease because your body isn't mentally preparing itself for the tickling. With something like an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] you're completely relaxed, because you're letting the device perform the stretch for you.
 
Are you saying that we could telepathetically command the penis to contract in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? Increasing the g's in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]:O
 
The same can happen whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] some men get this unconscious feeling that we could get hurt...n I just cant stretch hard enough
 
How do you not stretch hard enough using two hands? You must have lady arms:blush:
 
huge-girth;653927 said:
I don't think this is something you should be worried about. For me, I only keep an eye on my erect length and longer flaccid without stretching it.

Ok guys I'll keep doing what I'm doing, 1 intense [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] session per day including bundled stretches in every direction and PhalloGenetics / Regular [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for the rest of the day (and night).

I will stay away from that place now, they only make you worry about everything xD
 
The resistance you are referring to is the exact reason why DLD coined the reverse kegal. When executing properly you are bypassing all that resistance & getting nothing but pure stretch.

Edit: also if you are focusing on the RK + proper form your thoughts aren't wandering all over the place 😆
 
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Edit: also if you are focusing on the RK + proper form your thoughts aren't wandering all over the place 😆

True arranging the toughts+rk can help us whit gains
 
VoorheesXIII;654011 said:
DLD coined the reverse kegel

This is some old school shit right here, you remember this? That must have been around 2002:)
 
MoS-Newbie;653918 said:
Hey guys.

When I use my PhalloGenetics mod (although I'm using the Miracle Slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]), I can stretch my flacid penis out really far, even a bit longer than my BPEL. It also looks really thin when stretched out fully in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

But when I do manual stretching or even stretching with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], I can't stretch it that far. It feels like something holds it back. That's also why can't properly measure my BPFSL, because I can't stretch it out to full length!
I know exactly what you are talking about. When I use my phallogenetics I can stretch my penis at least a full inch further than my erect and flaccid stretch lengths. It's so cool seeing it that long!

And thankfully mine doesn't get that thin anymore. I think it's because a.) I do more girth work now and b.) my penis is probably just getting more conditioned to stretch that far. I actually think I will need to buy more bars soon. Phallogenetics is the shit for real!
 
doublelongdaddy;654066 said:
This is some old school shit right here, you remember this? That must have been around 2002:)

Haha nah, i wish i had been doing pe for 13yrs, I'd be pushing 10+ if that were the case 😆 I just like reading through the archives.
 
i want to gain more flaccid length compared to erect......should i be focusing more on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap compared to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or PF ???
or will both the things help in growing flaccid faster ???
 
I'd say it is simply due to the fact that in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] you are pulling at 2 different directions, pretty similar to magnetism in physics. . . .Where like poles repel (push away from each other), with the steel rod mechanism acting as a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force between the base and the glans resulting in a better stretch in the shaft. The reason why this is unattainable during manual stretch is that you only get to pull in one direction at a time. This is however my theory waiting to be validated.

Edit: I must add that I still get my best stretches and fatigue from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].
 
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johnny-wang;654485 said:
I'd say it is simply due to the fact that in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] you are pulling at 2 different directions, pretty similar to magnetism in physics. . . .Where like poles repel (push away from each other), with the steel rod mechanism acting as a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force between the base and the glans resulting in a better stretch in the shaft. The reason why this is unattainable during manual stretch is that you only get to pull in one direction at a time. This is however my theory waiting to be validated.

I can totally agree that manual stretching or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] stretching feels very different compared to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] like the PhalloGenetics Mod.
 
Lengthmaster should be the real stretching (active) while the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] coasts on the pre-trained tunica (passive).
 
templnite;654495 said:
Lengthmaster should be the real stretching (active) while the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] coasts on the pre-trained tunica (passive).

Very true and right in line with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].
 
pogzee;654478 said:
i want to gain more flaccid length compared to erect......should i be focusing more on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap compared to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or PF ???
or will both the things help in growing flaccid faster ???

I think both works together.
 
huge-girth;654680 said:
I think both works together.

I agree. Any kind of length work will also increase flaccid length. The best things to increase flaccid length are:
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] or PhalloGenetics
Lazy Ass Stretching
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] Wrap
 
doublelongdaddy;654707 said:
I agree. Any kind of length work will also increase flaccid length. The best things to increase flaccid length are:

[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] or PhalloGenetics
Lazy Ass Stretching
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] Wrap

Also reducing the fatpad and losing weight over all will help you with the flaccid size....when i push my fatpad back i gain like 2 inches of visual flaccid size...it's crazy
 
ChilDsh;654710 said:
Also reducing the fatpad and losing weight over all will help you with the flaccid size....when i push my fatpad back i gain like 2 inches of visual flaccid size...it's crazy

Stating the obvious. . . . Now the question is how the fuck do we lose this darn fatpad!!!! >:(
 
johnny-wang;654782 said:
Stating the obvious. . . . Now the question is how the fuck do we lose this darn fatpad!!!! >:(

For some the fatpad is the last to go..you need to lose weight over all....count your calories...just eat healthy over all and do cardio ,the fat will disapear eventually.No sugar,no junk food..you know,clasic .
 
johnny-wang;654485 said:
I'd say it is simply due to the fact that in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] you are pulling at 2 different directions, pretty similar to magnetism in physics. . . .Where like poles repel (push away from each other), with the steel rod mechanism acting as a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force between the base and the glans resulting in a better stretch in the shaft. The reason why this is unattainable during manual stretch is that you only get to pull in one direction at a time. This is however my theory waiting to be validated.

Edit: I must add that I still get my best stretches and fatigue from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].

*validation denied* if you wanted to pull from two direction you would be doing the dld duel stretch not the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words]:P
 
johnny-wang;654782 said:
Stating the obvious. . . . Now the question is how the fuck do we lose this darn fatpad!!!! >:(

great question man once the fat pad gets reduced things can get way better....:)
 
shortdick;654811 said:
great question man once the fat pad gets reduced things can get way better....:)

Well once that fat pad is gone you will be 1/2" away from a non-bone-pressed measurement of 8! Lose that fat pad son!
 
ChilDsh;654710 said:
Also reducing the fatpad and losing weight over all will help you with the flaccid size....when i push my fatpad back i gain like 2 inches of visual flaccid size...it's crazy

Fatpad is a nightmare
 
Mine is coming back gradually. I will be getting rid of it from next month. Constant cardio is the key
 
huge-girth;654978 said:
Mine is coming back gradually. I will be getting rid of it from next month. Constant cardio is the key
I would say about 75% of fitness comes from the food we eat. Someone could lift weights, run, swim, row, climb etc. all they want but if they're eating shit sooner or later they'll look and feel like it too.

Lean meats, fish, healthy fats, lots of veggies, some fruits, and hardly any grains or sugars is how to do it. Good carb sources can be potatoes, sweet potatoes, oatmeal, brown rice, and quinoa but carbs should be eaten in moderation. Also just eating less in general will help one lose fat.
 
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tb007;654980 said:
I would say about 75% of fitness comes from the food we eat. Someone could lift weights, run, swim, row, climb etc. all they want but if they're eating shit sooner or later they'll look and feel like it too.

Lean meats, fish, healthy fats, lots of veggies, some fruits, and hardly any grains or sugars is how to do it. Good carb sources can be potatoes, sweet potatoes, oatmeal, brown rice, and quinoa but carbs should be eaten in moderation. Also just eating less in general will help one lose fat.

Very true..cardio without a good diet it's pointless ( unless you run for 5 hours a day ).
 
huge-girth;654909 said:
Fatpad is a nightmare

Yes it is, I hate mine, I am missing so much dick:) I think I may have lost a bit of weight, I need to weigh myself, but I will do that tomorrow and report back. Last weight checked I was 221. I am hoping to be in the 215 area, well see.
 
The resistance you are referring to is the exact reason why DLD coined the reverse kegal. When executing properly you are bypassing all that resistance & getting nothing but pure stretch.

Edit: also if you are focusing on the RK + proper form your thoughts aren't wandering all over the place 😆

I never thought of this. Thanks for sharing this info.
 
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