Phallosan or penimaster pro

[eugine8plz]

Which do you guys prefer? What are your guys thoughts on both of these tools?

 

[eugine8plz]

I owened both and sold my pf. The pf is made of cheap material and doesnt give a good stretch. The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is made of good materials and really comfortable and gives a real good stretch. And with the package you get a stretcher and a belt. So you have options. And you can sleep with it also. And the belt you get gives you more options then the pf belt. The pf only pulls to the side. And i used the pf for almost a year and gained notta thing but a lighter pocket book..

Thanks for your input 2slow! can the coupling socket be used on other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]? i have my own X4 labs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and was hoping that if i were to purchase the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] i could just buy the upgrade kit (comes with coupling socket and belt), use my own [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] if i wanted to and save some money instead of buying the complete set. Also, have you seen any gains since you have started using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]??

 

[eugine8plz]

so if the rods on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are too small for the coupling socket then i can put tape around the rods and make it so that the socket can fit on the rods. I think if i do end up buying this (not in my near future but it is a possibility) then I'm going to have to do that because i believe that x4 rods are the same size as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] rods.

 

[eugine8plz]

Tell you what bro, ill help a brother out..if you buy the glan peice i have my original pm stretcher ill give you to help you out. Just pay for shipping is all i ask..when you get it just let me know..hope this will help you..

Wow bro that's so generous thank you so much! I'm gonna have to save up and put aside a bit of cash before I buy it though aha. I think I'm gonna buy the upgrade kit #1 and then buy a belt off of eBay for cheap. I'll PM you in a bit about some details, thanks again bro!

 

[eugine8plz]

No problem bro!! Glade i can help

Have you seen any gains with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]? If so what were they?!

 

[eugine8plz]

Yes i have! I stopped gaining when i was using the pf. Very frustrating. So i went a very long time not gaining and when i swtiched to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] i gained a 1/4 in about 9 months..i know that doesnt sound like Alot but after not gaining for a long time its a lot to me. It got me to the measurement i want. And i think gaining a 1/4 of a inch isnt to bad considering i gained 2" prior to that using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegentics[/words].. i want to go alittle beyond my measurement to make sure i keep what i worked hard for..slow and steady but the turtle does win the race!

Ya that's really good especially after gaining 2" already! I've been doing pe for a bit over a year now and I've only had about .25" gain but i think it was because I never used too much intensity and I think that the key to me gaining is a lot of intensity. I Hope that I start gaining soon though and maybe the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] will bring me these gains that I am wishing for! I may order it around Christmas time.

 

[eugine8plz]

You will gain bro! Its all about how much time you put into it. If you do 4hrs your not gonna gain as if you do 8hrs. With the stretcher you can put in more hours. Constancy is the key and never over do it. Listen to your soldier he wont lie and tell you if your doing to much or if you can do more..doing pe isnt a fast journy but a long one. Its a life style..peace

Ya and with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] I won't have to take it off every 1-1.5 hours like I have to do with my x4 labs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] right now.

 

[eugine8plz]

You def wont have to. I dont take mine off unless i need to pee..i think you will like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]. Its the most comfortable stretcher ive used and it actually stretches..when ever you want me to send that to you just let me know..but remeber im using the end peice on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegentics[/words] but all else is there..and the rods on the pm is pretty long so thats a good thing and its light because its made out of aluminum..

Alright! Ya I'm going to need to get the belt system for it too for when I do placement for school. My next placement for school I'm going to be doing a decent amount of movement so I'm going to need to use the belt during that and then when I'm at work or home I can use either the belt or the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

 

[truant]

I own both and I prefer the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] over the penis master pro. The pf is more comfortable and easier to put on. I do use the penis master pro face plate with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] and it's great. I had to grind down the inner grooves of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] faceplate to fit the neck of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell.

Then I just use a small piece of cotton to protect the tip of the glans and a soft white silicon sleeve bought separate rather than the sleeves it came with. I cut the sleeves short too and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] still holds suction. You can also use skin lotions and thick petroleum jelly like creams like eucerin with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell.

With the penis master those creams will deteriorate the latex parts it has and would have to resort to lubricants than your skin may not agree with all the time and you won't even get as much comfort.

 

[DLD]

The best route, IMO, is the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] coupled with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to create the PhalloGenetics<<<

 

[kyomoto]

The best route, IMO, is the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] coupled with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to create the PhalloGenetics<<<

What a COMBO!

 

[kyomoto]

Why would one spend 700$ or better when the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] gives you everything in one package? And the glan peice is better and faster to put on. And the glan peice is for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is more concealable then the pf. The pump peice on the pf is bulky and long..

hmmmmmmm right you're right

 

[truant]

Truant how do you use the face plate with your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegentics[/words]? The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] rods are skinner. I had sleeves made so i could use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegentics[/words] with the face plate. Are you using tape? And i cant believe you like the pf better. Its made cheap and doesnt give a good stretch at all. Maybe thats why you think its more comfortable. I feel the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is more comfortable even with the good stretch from the stretcher. And the arms break on the pf and the clip pops off anytime you try and get a good stretch. You cant even get a good enough stretch to get past your hip..if you try the cheap plastic arms will break. And the belt system sucks! And the ring that goes around your shaft ends up burning and it only allows you to pull to the side..and the arm peice and pump stick out to the sides. to many negatives with the pf..its a cheap slap together product.

I'm using the face plate that came with the penis master pro kit with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] rods are made to fit with penis master pro face plate. The only thing I did was file down the penis master face plate so the neck of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell just below the pump snaps into the penis pro face plate just like the actual penis master pro suction bell does.

I use the smallest bell the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] came with and I use thick petroleum jelly like ointment to slide in and a small piece of cotton to protect the tip of the glans. My glans would not fit in the smallest bell without the ointment so I make sure to carry a small pocket size version of the cream when I'm out of the house. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] holds very firm even when you pull hard. It even seams like it gains in suction the longer you wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell. For example I'll pull right after I put it on and I can see some air does get between the tip of glans and roof of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] suction bell. But whats amazing is if you keep it on then pull it again after some time it's like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] has really gripped my glans to the fullest and theirs no air pockets. On top of that my glans dont even have to go all the way in the bell and it grips like none other I've ever seen not even with the penis master pro and the comfort is unmatched.

Although you have to condition your glans with the suction bell for a while without using any tention which is what I'm doing now. I can wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell all night without any blisters if I have no tension on it and just the bell. You can't do that with the penis master, or if anything it would take longer to condition yourself.

 

[truant]

The best route, IMO, is the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] coupled with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to create the PhalloGenetics<<<

Yess the phallogenetics lol I just wish the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] came with a custom [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] face plate so the bell can really snap into place. Cause I think I have to grind down my penis master pro face plate a little more the neck of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell sometimes slips out but it should be nice and snug once I smooth the inner edges of the penis pro face plate. It's hard to grind down hard plastic with a metal file lol.

 

[eugine8plz]

The size gentics rods are smaller then the pm rods..ill take a pic and prove that in a little bit. Thats why i had to have sleeves made to use mine. And yes you can sleep with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] also..and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] pro i never slipped or had to reattach. And if you think the pf is more comfortable then the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] then i guess thats all preference. Because i feel the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is the most comfortable stretcher out hands down wouldnt sell my mine..im gonna post a pic of my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegentics[/words] with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] face plate..maybe were talking about 2 different things..

Yes please post it 2slow!

 

[truant]

No problem bro..one thing im not is a liar and i dont sell products. And ill keep it real about any pe product i used. Ill be posting it in a few min.. amd did you notice he said of no tesion on it and he hasnt put tension on it. And if he does there is such little difference in the tesion you wont notice it. And you cant keep hlaf your glan in there also. And the longer its on you loose suction also..so im not sure he owns both or either one for that matter. Not calling anyone a liar but what he says is not true. Ill post pics in about 15min

I see what your saying now. You think that [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods need to have a perfect snug fit with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] face plate. I'm not sure why because I use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] face plate and it's the same thing it never falls off cause the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell neck snaps on to the faceplate regardless and makes everything stay in place. Even the regular [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] plate will slide off if there's nothing on it so I don't see the need for you to have a perfectly snug fit between the rods and plate not even the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] face plate is like that and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is pretty much the same it just snaps onto the rods and will slip off off course with nothing attached just like the face plate that came with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].

You say I don't feel tension I'm not sure why you don't feel any with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I was using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] setup but my glans weren't conditioned to these types of vacuum devices and I pulled a blister just after an hour. The tension was just like [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] except more comfortable. I'm also not a huge fan of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] sluices and it's a hassle to put on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] bell as you always need a hand pump unless you want to drop a lung lol. I just don't like the way I had to use those lubricants that dried out my glands and even then I don't like how tightly the bell gripped me even though I was below 5g pressure and felt like it was pinching me.

When I was putting on my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] while semi hard only half of my glands went in and it still gripped me tight and was simple to put on and had no pinching. All I felt in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] was my penis being stretched and the guitar string like tension while wearing it with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Although I would have never thought about using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] faceplate with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] if I never got the 2 products.

2slow you know I'm not using any belts right I'm just snapping the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] neck into the wider [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] face plate that I customized so it works just like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] except easier to put on.

 

[truant]

The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] gains pressure over time if you keep pumping it every now and again. You may not get a perfect snug fit at first but you can play around with the size of the cotton balls or just keep pumping a couple times each hour. I think that's the beauty of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], it grips you just enough to keep you in. The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] was harsh on my glands and I couldn't use creams or lotions because it would deteriorate the sluices on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words].

I'm wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell now and it wasn't giving me a great hold at first like usual but after a couple of pumps after putting it on is when the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] suction bell really starts to take hold and you can start pulling on it and doing manual stretches with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] where I pull harder than if I were wearing it with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].

 

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Sorry but cant see you using the face plate with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. Because the stretcher does move and when it does it will pop out of the arms..i went through it already and thats why i had those sleeves made. And i agree with you about the hand ball it sucks. But with the hose its stupid simple to put on. And you wont blow out a lung. You barley have to suck on it to draw yourself in. I can get it on in 3 seconds or less and take it off in a sec. And i cant believe you say that the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] pinchs you. Seeing your using the small bell on the pf..and the pf would chaf my glan. I call snake dick because my glan would peel like snake skin and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] you said did that to you but i never got that from the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]..and i never had my diaframs or sluiths deteriorate. And i cant believe also you lube up before going into the pf and it hold you in. If the condom gets even alittle greasy it will slip. And your supposed to keep it dry with powder so there is no slipping. And if moisture gets in the bell you will get blisters. And i guess when it comes to comfort and how easy it goes on is preference on the person. All i know its easier for me and takes less time to put on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] and to take it off and the comfort level is alot better with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] to me. No more stretching the condom over the bell and no more rolling up the condom and pinch taking it off. If you dont mind me asking what is you glan size to be using the small? And to be using it when your hard? And you know your supposed to use it flaccid right?

Ah I picked up what your saying with the differences between the regular [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] face plate and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] face plate. I know it sucks the pf doesn't come with a custom plate. Where did you get these custom rods if I may ask?

Your right about the blisters and moisture as well with the pf. I'm trying to overcome that with small amounts of ointment and thicker pieces of cotton and conditioning.

Going back to the differences in face plates. Isn't the pf stretching the same length as the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] because I mean I'm using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] face plate with with pf and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods so the necks of the 2 devices snap into the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] face plate at a similar height? Do you use the custom rods that you had made with your [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]?

I forgot my glan size but the medium pf bell was way too big to be seriously wearing all the time. The small bell is interesting because if I use a dab of ointment I can ease into it and allowed maybe a faint pump or 2 at the start you can see the little pump is trying to grip the cotton and my glands below. At this time the pf suction is fairly weak.

I'll wait maybe a minute and do a few more fast pumps to get the extra air out and this is when it seams to finally gets a hold and can be pulled hard with your hand and won't lose its suction. I even have holes in my sleeve lol.

 

[DLD]

DLD, why would someone want to buy 2 expensive products to make one good one? You would be about 700$ in to it when the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] gives you a stretcher glan peice and a belt. And the glan peice is much better then the pf not to mention quality. Most cant even get there glan into the large bell of the pf. I sold my pf and felt guilty for doing so. But the guy needed it for the stainless arms i had made because he also was breaking them..

Why? Because it is an awesome modification. And if you were aware of the Brotherhood you would know that we give away a tool every month so even someone with no money can win. And in addition, I have helped many who just don't have the money get what they need. So it does not need to cost $700, it could be created for for $200 if he wins the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].

 

[DLD]

Yess the phallogenetics lol I just wish the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] came with a custom [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] face plate so the bell can really snap into place. Cause I think I have to grind down my penis master pro face plate a little more the neck of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell sometimes slips out but it should be nice and snug once I smooth the inner edges of the penis pro face plate. It's hard to grind down hard plastic with a metal file lol.

Definitely a super modification but one that can be made eventually. I would purchase one piece at a time.