Yeah, I think some of it can be just chaulked up to cultural hysteria. During the Reagan 80s and even during H.W. Bush, the whole "Drug War" concept and the idea that we can irradicate drugs from society (or at least middle class white society, which in all reality is all that most federal anti-drug crusaders really cared about) were very popular. Hundreds of billions of dollars and a lot of wasted effort later, there isn't much change.

The number one factor contributing to abuse and availabiity of hard drugs is generally lack of education and poverty. So, the problem really isn't the drugs themselves, it's the terrible living situations and lack of opportunity that make people feel like destroying themselves with dangerous street drugs is preferable to dealing with reality - but it's a lot easier to just point a finger at all drugs instead of a broekn system.

Unfortuantely, there is a profit driven element to this as well. The US has more of its citizens locked up in prisons that any other nation, and the vast majority of crimes are drug-related (and many are non-violent, particualrly in states with the draconian three-strikes laws concerning drug offenses). This is very big business for private contractors prison management companies, and they lobby just as hard as the drug companies to make sure that mainstream America still believes that marijuana is somehow more dangerous than booze.

When I worked in politics it was always tremendously frustrating to me that more elected officials weren't willing to really call anybody else out or draft some legislation meant to start targeting this kind of bullshit. Unfortunately a lot of that has to do with the fact that many smalltown USA sorts of places are ecnomically dependent on jobs at a prison, and so the first thing that happens if a politician wants to cut prison funding or obstruct the system in any way is that the PR folks start accusing them of destroying a town's livelihood and ruining the lives of decent, hardworking people. On top of that, opposition to the prison system makes it all too easy for critics and challengers to make you out as "soft on crime," so that compounds the first problem.

I personally don't think the problem will get solved until this country has a major shift in its attitudes about drugs and crime - owning up to the fact that pot is no different and probably much better than drinking alcohol is the first step.
 
stridge said:
Yeah, I think some of it can be just chaulked up to cultural hysteria. During the Reagan 80s and even during H.W. Bush, the whole "Drug War" concept and the idea that we can irradicate drugs from society (or at least middle class white society, which in all reality is all that most federal anti-drug crusaders really cared about) were very popular. Hundreds of billions of dollars and a lot of wasted effort later, there isn't much change.

The number one factor contributing to abuse and availabiity of hard drugs is generally lack of education and poverty. So, the problem really isn't the drugs themselves, it's the terrible living situations and lack of opportunity that make people feel like destroying themselves with dangerous street drugs is preferable to dealing with reality - but it's a lot easier to just point a finger at all drugs instead of a broekn system.

Unfortuantely, there is a profit driven element to this as well. The US has more of its citizens locked up in prisons that any other nation, and the vast majority of crimes are drug-related (and many are non-violent, particualrly in states with the draconian three-strikes laws concerning drug offenses). This is very big business for private contractors prison management companies, and they lobby just as hard as the drug companies to make sure that mainstream America still believes that marijuana is somehow more dangerous than booze.

When I worked in politics it was always tremendously frustrating to me that more elected officials weren't willing to really call anybody else out or draft some legislation meant to start targeting this kind of bullshit. Unfortunately a lot of that has to do with the fact that many smalltown USA sorts of places are ecnomically dependent on jobs at a prison, and so the first thing that happens if a politician wants to cut prison funding or obstruct the system in any way is that the PR folks start accusing them of destroying a town's livelihood and ruining the lives of decent, hardworking people. On top of that, opposition to the prison system makes it all too easy for critics and challengers to make you out as "soft on crime," so that compounds the first problem.

I personally don't think the problem will get solved until this country has a major shift in its attitudes about drugs and crime - owning up to the fact that pot is no different and probably much better than drinking alcohol is the first step.

Ya but that'll take years. All the older people (those who grew up before the 70s) will need to die out to get a real voting majority established. That's going to be at least another 20 years.
 
It's hard for me to see anything related to weed. Man I could go for a dutch right now. Man protest this muthafucking bullshit. I hate all this political shit. Fuck cops, lawyers, judges, I really think this system is fucked up. Nothing but sucker asses running the damn thing, money is there Achilles heel.
 
ithiel said:
It's hard for me to see anything related to weed. Man I could go for a dutch right now. Man protest this muthafucking bullshit. I hate all this political shit. Fuck cops, lawyers, judges, I really think this system is fucked up. Nothing but sucker asses running the damn thing, money is there Achilles heel.

It is funny to see how much utter bullshit is prevalent and un-needed or overused in our society. I wish sociologists could do a study on cavemen in real time to see the effects of their lifestyle.
 
Here is a FOX news release on Marijuana. I post this in the penis enlargement forum because even today, we are haunted by the propaganda of ulterior motives in the general media driven by money and ratings. This relates to Penis Enlargement as most of the information we find online is created to send a message of emotional robbery. A directive that only caters to a negatively bias, and uneducated, statement offering advice based on nothings by monetary gain and an opinion that holds less water than a fishing net. The reality of the effects of Marijuana, Penis Enlargement or any other controversial activity, becomes a reality through the people who actually try these methods, study these methods and actually benefit from these efforts.

Propaganda is so obvious to those with a mind that is a step above the general population (who I think are mostly monkeys). Our gathering of people at a site like this, or any other that embraces the advancement of humanity and the betterment of our evolution through taking steps beyond the reality of normality, is so much more than an internet connection, it is a massive way of saying to the world, "We demand more of ourselves and we expect nothing less than the rest of the planet!" We have a desire to spread our new found education. We take pity on those that accept a propaganda driven reality that never allows for personal betterment and pleasures beyond their current knowledge.

I read this Marijuana article with complete disgust. It is falsely driven to scare the population from smoking weed. I know for myself, if I never smoked marijuana, I would have never become the man I am. Marijuana teaches things about ourselves. It allows us to face our fears, our insecurities, the very essence of the emotion we lock deep inside. Once we can face these fears we are able to find peace. We are able to accept realities far beyond those of our sterile, past existence. We, essentially, are able to see, embrace, practice, learn and offer gifts of a reality far beyond that of the normal man. This, in no way, is a endorsement for marijuana, as it is an alert for those who fall victim to propaganda.

Give yourself credit if you are reading this thread. You have out-evolved the hominids, you have opened your mind to the underground and accepted a new, and more advanced way of living. The area of information, not yet infected by that of the popular world, is broad and vast. Penis Enlargement (at least Penis Enlargement that is natural and real), is part of this virgin knowledge unaffected by popular bullshit.

This article about marijuana I post is so sad. It offers false information with an ulterior motive only evident by the over exaggerated scares it tries to instill on the reader.

Penis Enlargement is that of the impossible! Propaganda has been the largest enemy of Penis Enlargement. We have fallen victim to the hands of Plastic Surgeons, Pill Companies, and other false forms of Penis Enlargement. We have been jumbled up with the good, the bad and the ugly. If you want to learn about Penis Enlargement you need to learn about propaganda. You need to be wise, or lucky enough, to find the "real" form of Penis Enlargement that really works.

The point of my post is that we never judge the reality of a miracle based on the insecurities of those who do not believe! Smoke pot, do Penis Enlargement, learn about Buddha, take risks in life. If you never test the boundaries of what is accepted as real, you will never experience the fruits of our human rights and advancement.

Here is the article:

Even Infrequent Use of Marijuana
Increases Risk of Psychosis by 40 Percent
Thursday, July 26, 2007

LONDON — Using marijuana seems to increase the chance of becoming psychotic, researchers report in an analysis of past research that reignites the issue of whether pot is dangerous.

The new review suggests that even infrequent use could raise the small but real risk of this serious mental illness by 40 percent.

Doctors have long suspected a connection and say the latest findings underline the need to highlight marijuana's long-term risks. The research, paid for by the British Health Department, is being published Friday in medical journal The Lancet.

"The available evidence now suggests that cannabis is not as harmless as many people think," said Dr. Stanley Zammit, one of the study's authors and a lecturer in the department of psychological medicine at Cardiff University.

The researchers said they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis, a category of several disorders with schizophrenia being the most commonly known.

There could be something else about marijuana users, "like their tendency to use other drugs or certain personality traits, that could be causing the psychoses," Zammit said.

Marijuana is the most frequently used illegal substance in many countries, including the United Kingdom and the United States. About 20 percent of young adults report using it at least once a week, according to government statistics.

Zammit and colleagues from the University of Bristol, Imperial College and Cambridge University examined 35 studies that tracked tens of thousands of people for periods ranging from one year to 27 years to examine the effect of marijuana on mental health.

They looked for psychotic illnesses as well as cognitive disorders including delusions and hallucinations, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, neuroses and suicidal tendencies.

They found that people who used marijuana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. The overall risk remains very low.

For example, Zammit said the risk of developing schizophrenia for most people is less than 1 percent. The prevalence of schizophrenia is believed to be about five in 1,000 people. But because of the drug's wide popularity, the researchers estimate that about 800 new cases of psychosis could be prevented by reducing marijuana use.

The scientists found a more disturbing outlook for "heavy users" of pot, those who used it daily or weekly: Their risk for psychosis jumped to a range of 50 percent to 200 percent.

One doctor noted that people with a history of mental illness in their families could be at higher risk. For them, marijuana use "could unmask the underlying schizophrenia," said Dr. Deepak Cyril D'Souza, an associate professor of psychiatry at Yale University, who was not involved in the study.

Dr. Wilson Compton, a senior scientist at the National Institute on Drug Abuse in Washington, called the study persuasive.

"The strongest case is that there are consistencies across all of the studies," and that the link was seen only with psychoses — not anxiety, depression or other mental health problems, he said.

Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses, he added.

Scientists think it is biologically possible that marijuana could cause psychoses because it interrupts important neurotransmitters such as dopamine. That can interfere with the brain's communication systems.

Some experts say governments should now work to dispel the misconception that marijuana is a benign drug.

"We've reached the end of the road with these kinds of studies," said Dr. Robin Murray of King's College, who had no role in the Lancet study. "Experts are now agreed on the connection between cannabis and psychoses. What we need now is for 14-year-olds to know it."

In the U.K., the government will soon reconsider how marijuana should be classified in its hierarchy of drugs. In 2004, it was downgraded and penalties for possession were reduced. Many expect marijuana will be bumped up to a class "B" category, with offenses likely to lead to arrests or longer jail sentences.

Two of the authors of the study were invited experts on the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005. Several authors reported being paid to attend drug company-sponsored meetings related to marijuana, and one received consulting fees from companies that make antipsychotic medications.

If the claims in this article was true, there should have been numerous mad people in my country today, especially now that we have very strong strains of Marijuana. I do agree that, there ate some strong strains of weed that scares me.

However, it's not very common to see mad people roaming the streets and living in asylum as a result of Marijuana use.

But I must say that, too much of everything is bad.
 
If the claims in this article was true, there should have been numerous mad people in my country today, especially now that we have very strong strains of Marijuana. I do agree that, there ate some strong strains of weed that scares me.

However, it's not very common to see mad people roaming the streets and living in asylum as a result of Marijuana use.

But I must say that, too much of everything is bad.
That is the exact point that if we use too much of something, it becomes a bad thing. I personally smoke once a day.So I can get good sleep. But I do remember a time where I used it all day long and in that context, it truly hurt me. I understand people do not want to smoke but to those that do smoke have a complete control of yourself and use in moderation.
 
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