i dont see any proof of big gains

Nah it made sense and I agree.
Plus also not every routine will work for each man, so Oliver experiment and make your own routine from what you like and learn from trial and error like I did.
Thats how you make progress and than you'll see gains, its a LONG HARD road but you must graft to get that success and when you get it, well it tastes fine.
 
oliver pe can be really frustrating at times,i got an inch in the first 6 months then no gains for 2 years,started hanging and saw gains again,its all down to trial and error,what works for one person may do nothing for someone else,if somethings not working then drop it and try something else.
 
smokeum said:
Iv'e only seen pictures of minimum gains and few of those.I read about 2-3 inch gains but have seen no before/after pics of those kind of gains.If im missing something let me know but im sceptical right now because ive seen little proof this shit works.Why isnt their more before/after pics if it works????
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there are definately pics of gains out there.. but rare to find
here's the best one i've seen.

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