George W. Bush Is Our President!!!

tonedef said:
Yeah thanks for telling me I have been brainwashed. I can't compete with a bunch of left-wing conformists anyhow. Also, just because your IQ is 155 doesn't mean your are knowledgeable, it just means that you think like everyone else that took that IQ test, congratulations.

I'm done bash me as much as you want. Go on believe lies, enjoy invasion of privacy with the Patriot Act, Privatized Social Security, and more religion than you can handle making laws at he supreme court and Presidential level.

Yeah and make sure to use the Micheal Moore slam when you read this, because he brainwashed me and so did the Liberal Media. Please help me to think like you.
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Wow. I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Shithead. But take offense if you want. Shit man, Why does it have to be that one side is brainwashed and can't think for themselves (which is what you obviously think of me, which is also bullshit)? I've been saying the whole time, IT'S A DIFFERENCE IN POLITICAL IDEAS AND MORALS. It doesn't have anything to do with brainwashing.

Your IQ argument is invalid, sorry. I was making a point that IQ has nothing to do with elections. I don't care if my IQ is 155 or if it's 95. That has nothing to do with who I am or what my thoughts are on politics or anything else. It has only to do with how well I scored on a test. You seemed to miss the point that I was making, which was that IQ is unrelated to my choice of president. But do not insult my intelligence. We simply happen to differ on our political beliefs. I won't get into an "I'm more intelligent/educated/knowledgeable than you" pissing contest with you. I'm done with this argument.
 
All that stuff with lawyers and malpractice suits and buisness' being run out of buisness really gets complex...I know theres a way to balance all that. I think it starts with honesty and giving the public all the relevant information. It would help if the 'news' outlets wouldnt sensationalize stories to keep viewers interest. You wont be able to please everyone either. Life has a hard edge to it, you know?

As for intelligence, you have to factor in the quality of life someone has put together for themselves and their families and the way they treat others. Simply being able to blather on about Proust or quantum mechanics doesnt prove squat. Do you know how difficult and scientific running a farm is, or fixing a carburator, or building a house? Do you know how easy it is to sit down and read through The Dialogues of Plato or Chomsky's latest childish rant, and then puke it back up for some 'we're smarter than the red states crowd'?.

As far as our MODS censoring things. Those guys seem pretty cool and hip to free speech so I dont believe thats what happened.

Putting together a successful web enterprise is no easy feat either I might add. I wonder who DLD voted for?
 
bush is making the country happier through ignorance.

im not going to argue anymore because people have alread made up their minds.

i will keep reading this thread though, because unlike lots of people here, i completly welcome the possibility of my opinion being changed. i am more interested in creating a better understanding for myself rather than just trying to prove people wrong.
 
Shafty said:
Ahh... that I did indeed! How stupid of me to think that such a post may have been censored by the mods.
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I censor nothing.

I believe people can say what they want. I enjoy debates with intelligent people especially ones with a totally different view on an issue. That way I can learn from them, and maybe they learn from me.

If it is complete spam I will move it to its respectful place. I won't sensor anything no matter how personal or ignorrant, it will just take me a longer time to understand that person.
 
Shithead said:
bush is making the country happier through ignorance.

im not going to argue anymore because people have alread made up their minds.

i will keep reading this thread though, because unlike lots of people here, i completly welcome the possibility of my opinion being changed. i am more interested in creating a better understanding for myself rather than just trying to prove people wrong.
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I can tell you hate bush dearly which would put you with the other 49% of the US. What I don't understand is how Kerry would be any better.

How can you hate a man who simply follows orders. Kerry would have orders to follow if he was the president. His goals would be very similiar only he would go about achieving them in a more sneaky manner.

On issues such as this it is best to think outside the box and research from there. You will always get the wrong answers when you ask the wrong questions.
 
Bib said:
Never before in US history has a sitting leader been hit from so many different angles, and survived.
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Not true, I did:D
 
Bib said:
Never before in US history has a sitting leader been hit from so many different angles, and survived.
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I know it's crazy. The redskins lost, bush was shorter, and there was an increased voter turnout which always leads to a democratic victory.
 
kausion_420 said:
I can tell you hate bush dearly which would put you with the other 49% of the US. What I don't understand is how Kerry would be any better.

How can you hate a man who simply follows orders. Kerry would have orders to follow if he was the president. His goals would be very similiar only he would go about achieving them in a more sneaky manner.

On issues such as this it is best to think outside the box and research from there. You will always get the wrong answers when you ask the wrong questions.
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just because i hate bush doesn't mean i support kerry. im not from america, but i would have voted for kerry, because in my opinion, getting bush out is top priority, and voting for kerry would be the best bet at that. the lesser of two evils.
 
Hate. God you Kerry fans love to use that word. Sometimes I think that you just need to hate. You start by hateing the best among us and move on down the line until your alone, hateing yourself.

Dont be a hater shithead.

George Bush do will do good by the people of Earth, youll see :-)
 
copper_handshak said:
Hate. God you Kerry fans love to use that word. Sometimes I think that you just need to hate. You start by hateing the best among us and move on down the line until your alone, hateing yourself.

Dont be a hater shithead.

George Bush do will do good by the people of Earth, youll see :-)
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i see your point, starting war is a great anti-hate action.
 
He did not start a war. The U.S. and her allies disposed of a Evil man. Worse than Hitler in many ways. There are many good, noble reasons for going into Iraq.
People, bad people, have been lying to you about Iraq for the very selfish reason of regaining power in Washington D.C.
Iraq had to happen. Most Iraqis are so relieved that someone finally stepped up and said ENOUGH! You dont see all the good thats happening in Iraq. The bad selfish people dont tell you about that. If they did, you would not hate George Bush and his administration. The bad selfish people want you to hate. They control you by feeding your desire to hate, and giving you their hand picked target-Bush.
Watch and see Iraq come alive with democracy. Live with freedom from Saddam. Watch and see the bad people moan every step of the way, encourageing you to hate. Telling you lies. Dont listen. This current U.S. administration is good. Iraq was just.
 
copper_handshak said:
He did not start a war. The U.S. and her allies disposed of a Evil man. Worse than Hitler in many ways. There are many good, noble reasons for going into Iraq.
People, bad people, have been lying to you about Iraq for the very selfish reason of regaining power in Washington D.C.
Iraq had to happen. Most Iraqis are so relieved that someone finally stepped up and said ENOUGH! You dont see all the good thats happening in Iraq. The bad selfish people dont tell you about that. If they did, you would not hate George Bush and his administration. The bad selfish people want you to hate. They control you by feeding your desire to hate, and giving you their hand picked target-Bush.
Watch and see Iraq come alive with democracy. Live with freedom from Saddam. Watch and see the bad people moan every step of the way, encourageing you to hate. Telling you lies. Dont listen. This current U.S. administration is good. Iraq was just.
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you are full of crap in so many ways i don't know where to start.

saddam is not worse than hitler, you an idiot for even suggesting that.
your right, bad people have been lying to us about iraq, #1 is bush.
whats all this crap you say about "good" happening in iraq, i see 10's of thousands of innocent people killed, and then you say i've got a "hate" problem.
and you can't make a country a democracy just like that. theres two things you need for a democracy, 1 is a country, 2 is a couple of hundred years.

saddam was a tyrant, no question, but there are better ways of going about it than what was done. the way it was handled was for america to benefit the most, america number 1 priority. it should have been for iraq to benefit most, and iraq at top priority.
 
kausion_420 said:
I censor nothing.

I believe people can say what they want. I enjoy debates with intelligent people especially ones with a totally different view on an issue. That way I can learn from them, and maybe they learn from me.

If it is complete spam I will move it to its respectful place. I won't sensor anything no matter how personal or ignorrant, it will just take me a longer time to understand that person.
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I know. My bad; of course it wouldn't get censored here. I actually posted it in another thread and thought I had posted it here for some reason. Not that it was disrespectful, untactful or profane- it's just that the first thought which came to mind was that since the majority of active posters here seem to be behind Bush, one of the mods may have deleted it.
I should know better than that...
 
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funny yet true.
 
Shithead, there was a multi year build up to that war. Every world leader at one time or another supported the over throw and liberation of Iraq. Those are not statements based on fiction or idiocy. They are facts.

With a willing populace, democracies are born virtually over night. Iraq has that willing populace. It will happen for them!!! The left will choke on that great accomplishment and immediately turn around and say 'oh yea, what have you done for us lately?'

10,000s of thousands have died. Hundreds of thousands would have died. Most of the 10,000s were not innocents. Hype that all you want, but it is truth.

As far Saddam, I said in many ways he was worse than Hitler. Saddams brutality while on a smaller scale was more vicious and random than Hitlers. Saddam was a brutal psycho, Hitler was a driven madman.

Take it easy shithead. :-)
 
copper_handshak said:
Shithead, there was a multi year build up to that war. Every world leader at one time or another supported the over throw and liberation of Iraq. Those are not statements based on fiction or idiocy. They are facts.

With a willing populace, democracies are born virtually over night. Iraq has that willing populace. It will happen for them!!! The left will choke on that great accomplishment and immediately turn around and say 'oh yea, what have you done for us lately?'

10,000s of thousands have died. Hundreds of thousands would have died. Most of the 10,000s were not innocents. Hype that all you want, but it is truth.

As far Saddam, I said in many ways he was worse than Hitler. Saddams brutality while on a smaller scale was more vicious and random than Hitlers. Saddam was a brutal psycho, Hitler was a driven madman.

Take it easy shithead. :-)
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your statements are so full of it. it sounds like your just ranting your opinion rather than telling facts.

you saying that every single world leader wants the liberation of iraq? thats a huge claim. i doubt you can back it up.

you couldn't be further from the truth when you say democracies are born over night, you sound like a fool when you say that.

you say iraq is a willing populace. once again your a fool. in case you didn't know, iraq is made up of 3 very hostile groups, the kurds, the sunnis and the shi-ites. while independent of each other they might like their own democracy, but you think they're gonna just welcome america forcing them to all one democracy.

bah, im not gonna bother with you anymore, you don't know what your talking about.
 
Shafty said:
I think he was referring to the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq. The first one was justified IMO, but the second one was (and will be since there seems to be no end to it) bullshit for the lack of a better word to describe it.
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That's what I had to assume. Personally, I supported the Iraq war, but there is no denying it has been a difficult, costly campaign. I can understand that whole matter being up for debate.

However, I don't know what hopful expected the U.S. to do after 9/11. Personally, I find his suggestion that a response to 9/11 was a selfish action by the Bush Administration to be insulting. We had 3,000 people die. By and large, most were not soldiers or military employees, but office workers. So, they weren't German? I'm sorry this guy then fails to put it in perspective, or maybe he is so steeped with anti-Americanism that he really doesn't feel much for those victims. But the idea a response was selfish or unwarranted is ludicrous. His own government sent troops to Afghanistan to support the effort. I hope he didn't think that statement through very well, or else he's quite far removed from reality.
 
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