Dianabol cycles

[REDZULU2003]

I just want feedback on anyone who has USED a dianabol cycle and what they noticed and the amount of gains they kept during the PCT.

I've researched heavily into dianabol because I might take it in the near future to get me the mass I need to urgently start rugby again.

Well aware of many loseing gains when they stop the cycle and lots of water is stored and than excreted on the cycle end BUT I have also noted guys who have gained 22lbs and kept 17 pounds, guys gaining 10lbs and keeping 8lbs while on Dianabol alone.

I would buy from http://www.eurobolica.com/cycles.htm#3 and that link is the begginers cycle with dianabol with clomid as the PCT kicking in during the later weeks.

Price is here http://www.eurobolica.com/prices.htm#3 $145 or £77

The site is real as a mate of myn orders alsorts of shit from it each month.

I dont want lectures about steroids, I have already done a pro hormone cycle from October to December and gained 8lbs and kept ALL OF IT with my PCT .. I aint silly like some of those kids on many of the BB sites who ask about this stuff which is why I dont join them because you get labelled as a know nothing and that seems common and as you all know me here I post this .. well here.

This is aimed mainly at those who have USED dianabol on its own in the cycle.

If anyone wants to chime in some useful comments I would love to know and especially ways to KEEP the gains during the PCT.

The cycle will last 5 weeks and than weeks 6,7,8 is the PCT .. its not 8-12 weeks like some cycles and my prohormone cycle was 8 weeks on with 8 weeks PCT.

I will also write my whole account of that prohormone cycle very soon with what I used etc as they do work.

thanks

 

[prince Albert]

Red stay well clear of websites like that its a good way of getting scammed either fake gear or no gear,fake gear is nigh on impossible to detect and is big business.

Tapering the dosage the way they recommend is old school,25-30mg a week for 5-6 weeks is a good starting dosage,pct can be done the way they recommend.

D/bol is very effective but a lot of the gains are water weight and that needs to be remembered,you often here lads say its crap as they loose most of the gains when they finish the cycle but they have just lost the water bloat.

Sides,water retention big style which leads to breathing problems,lower back pumps which can be really painful,calf pumps while driving,shin splints,cardio in general is a no go.

Acne,facial acne,excessive oily skin.

Nose bleeds from the increase in blood pressure.

Tiredness feeling lethargic.

Loss of appetite is pretty common and a bad thing as you need to eat.

PCT,clomid is evil stuff,can give bad sides,really bad headaches that last all day,blurred vision,clomid blues can make you very emotional,watching tv and you may start crying.A good tip is to take clomid just before going to bed that helps me a lot with the headaches.

Gains are down to diet,so high protien high calories,lift heavy and basic and sleep,you will gain a shit load of water regardless of diet but you will loose that.

After pct 5-6lbs of bodyweight would be a realistic gain.

If you can get hold of it T-bol is a better choice,you don't get the massive water gain.

 

[prince Albert]

Just checked on the british dragon website and they are not in there approved list of suppliers,be careful.

 

[8InchMIKE]

guys i think british dragon is out for good last time i heard something about them so maybe check if they are still around befor buying into old lots of bad juice.

Peace

Mike

 

[prince Albert]

guys i think british dragon is out for good last time i heard something about them so maybe check if they are still around befor buying into old lots of bad juice.

Peace

Mike

From BD

"British Dragon has always been a procurement company. However, with an aim toward producing licensed products, we formed a partnership in Eastern Europe to manufacture. Before this was finalised, sub-standard products were being produced which were not to the standard nor tradition of British Dragon.

Thus, no genuine British Dragon products (as under the control of the founders) will be produced after December, 2006.

All our regular distributors as listed on the Suppliers list will have sufficient stock until well into the new year (2007).

British Dragon would like to thank its loyal supporters.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Thanks for the advice guys ... think I will ditch the idea than as like you say the site could be dodgy and the water scares but would like to have tried it but dont want to be really down when the weight goes so to speak.

I have been speaking to a US supplier, the guy who infact supplied me with the prohormones I took from Oct-Dec and gained 8lbs in that time and did the PCT for 8 weeks, ending soon so he knew his stuff and dosages.

Took Halo-D and 13-ethyl-bolan back than and will write a review on them soon.

The product he told me about now is one called 19-nor-tren which is a Trenbolone product but 19-nor-tren is a prohormone and once ingested it turns into Trenbolone.

Thinking maybe going with that ... not Trenbolone direct but via the prohormone 19-nor-tren which turns to that anyways ... looked up on Tren and found that its great for cutting phases and getting ripped look plus strength but not great on mass building which is what I want but it does have some mass gains ... would THINK about stacking it with Halo-D but preferably with money issues take it on its own.

The PCT would be the same as I have just took which DID THE SHITS ... Androbolix and P6 Extreme 2006 edition.


So any advice on Trenbolone results especially with regard to mass would be great.

Many thanks

 

[prince Albert]

Carn't speak for prohormone's as i no very little on how effective they are,don't see the point if your in the uk as its not illegal to use the real thing.

Used tren a few times and its very effective,big strength increases,if on a cutting diet it gives a hard vascular look,very good on a bulk as well when stacked with test.

Worst sides are excessive sweating,especially in bed also insomnia,its a bit like deca in that its best not to use by itself as it can cause quite a bad loss of labido.

 

[Odin]

Shoot me an e-mail redzula and i will give you some good advise you want to hear! im a bodybuilder and have been in the game of gear for 4 years, and no d-bol is not what you want by itself! Anavar at 60mg a day is a dam nice cycle by itself if your scared of needles, Best cycle their is though without a doubt is test prop, tren actate cycle, taking 1cc of each everyday to every other day. The only cycle that can really put serious mass on while cutting good bodyfat!

 

[8InchMIKE]

Hey Prince Albert and ODIN,

i may be PM'ing you dudes ( if that's alright ? ) one of these days cause i need to talk to someone with experience on this whole matter ( juice )

I know quite a lot about it but mainly the chemical part of it and no real world usage experience. I fear somethings like gynecomastia and liver sides as well as a few others and if it's cool i'd appreciate the help.

If on-the-other-hand it is NOT cool then just tell me and i'll understand.

Peace

Mike

 

[prince Albert]

Shoot me an e-mail redzula and i will give you some good advise you want to hear! im a bodybuilder and have been in the game of gear for 4 years, and no d-bol is not what you want by itself! Anavar at 60mg a day is a dam nice cycle by itself if your scared of needles, Best cycle their is though without a doubt is test prop, tren actate cycle, taking 1cc of each everyday to every other day. The only cycle that can really put serious mass on while cutting good bodyfat!

T-bol gives similar results to var and is less expensive,tren and test does make a good lean bulk cycle but there are many other options.

 

[prince Albert]

No problem mike

 

[miami54]

My first d-bol cycle was positive...good gains, but hammer the protein, seems to help control the water bloat...if u want tren, buy finiplix-h carts from a vet supplier, get a kit from kits-n-more, and research on how to make your own...about $110 for a 40 cc bottle at 90-100 mgs/cc...safer than ordering the already made off the net at $225 a bottle...

 

[Odin]

T-bol gives similar results to var and is less expensive,tren and test does make a good lean bulk cycle but there are many other options.

Var is quiet cheap if you get the powder then put it into 50ml of everclear, and use a dropper. You can get that from legit powder sources in china for anywhere from $8-16 a gram, so $40 for about 2 months worth is not bad at 60mg a ml, T-bol is pretty cheap as well in powder form. With 100% powder you can get pretty much anything really cheap. Lifetime worth of cialis or viagar for under $30 dollars. However you need a secure e-mail, www.cyber-rights.net and maybe ref's.... but sign up for the e-mail. Pm me redzula and i'll give you the name of the board with 1000's of members and a good legit UK source. If your not happy ban my account i've had here for 3 years.

 

[Odin]

BTW for the record here are my ligit stat's for the hell of it.

5'9 230 pounds
7% bodyfat
20 inch arms
52 inch chest
33 inch waist
365x6 on incline bench
405x20 deep squats

 

[prince Albert]

BTW for the record here are my ligit stat's for the hell of it.

5'9 230 pounds
7% bodyfat
20 inch arms
52 inch chest
33 inch waist
365x6 on incline bench
405x20 deep squats

Come on don't be shy lets see the pics.

 

[Odin]

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[Odin]

240 pounds in this pic, and not looking the best do to a cold i had for 2 weeks.

 

[prince Albert]

Very very impressive mate,delts traps and neck esp.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I will let you know about the prohormone stuff ... reasons for me doing that was I didnt know anyone who had steroids [real stuff] many could have sold me shit that could have killed me.

The prohormones are actually steroids anyway that just turn into them once inyour body. They aint as cheap though.

Did keep all 8lbs of what I gained ... really happy about that ... its a good start for someone who oneday wants to use AAS ... dont jump straight into it, try prohormones first.

What I'm thinking of right now is dbol with tren acetate and stanzolol. Take the dbol for the first 5-6 weeks every 3-4 hours during the day as it has a short life ... dbol for the start of the cycle to get gains going.

The tren+stan will come in from week 6 or 7 onwards for 8 weeks going into the PCT which will be Tamoxifen [Nolvadex] and tribullus based products alongwith milk thistle.

I have been told that this is a very good mass stack. The dbol will kick start gains and the tren and stan will keep the gains going and help keep them also ... my diet is VERY strict with 500g carbs and 300g protein eachday but when the cycle starts which wont be till April anyway I will be takeing 400g of protein and 600g of carbs daily.

As I'm new to AAS I dont want to start injecting myself yet and I disagree strongly with that bullshit phrase ''if your not ready to inject your not ready for AAS'' thats balls ... I aint going to slap needles in me willy nilly for the hell of it even if it could be better results as I aint confident doing that to myself yet and want to get experience on cycles before I mess with that.

They are SO MANY steroids and all of all types and work so different to oneanother ... its hard to choose but hopefully my mind is set on the cycle I have discussed here ... shame dbol gets so much bad press. Arnold used it with test on his cycles so it cant be that bad.

 

[prince Albert]

Red running orals for that long is not a good idea they are 17 aa and will raise liver values,5-6 weeks is long enough,the reason injectables are recommended is they do not raise liver values the way orals do,if you are going to use orals for that long then be sure to get blood work taken.

If you don't want to inject then i would go for either d/bol or t/bol for 5-6 weeks.

Or go for 2 shots of test enath a week 500mg.

Keep it simple.

 

[redman81]

Hey guys,

Just reading up to date. I can get some dianabol off a mate but he only has that. What's your advice on a dianabol cycle only, and what else would you need to do.
Or is it not worth it, or must be used with an adrogenic also???

 

[DGreekStallion]

The only real good information that I can inject into this thread is that besides Clomid as your estrogen blocker, your going to need a liver protectant, if your not already taking one.
Milk thistle is where it's at for saving your liver!

 

[DGreekStallion]

Steroids and the "real" supplements are the one part of bodybuilding that I don't know much about, and I really want to change that...

 

[REDZULU2003]

Red stay well clear of websites like that its a good way of getting scammed either fake gear or no gear,fake gear is nigh on impossible to detect and is big business.

Tapering the dosage the way they recommend is old school,25-30mg a week for 5-6 weeks is a good starting dosage,pct can be done the way they recommend.

D/bol is very effective but a lot of the gains are water weight and that needs to be remembered,you often here lads say its crap as they loose most of the gains when they finish the cycle but they have just lost the water bloat.

Sides,water retention big style which leads to breathing problems,lower back pumps which can be really painful,calf pumps while driving,shin splints,cardio in general is a no go.

Acne,facial acne,excessive oily skin.

Nose bleeds from the increase in blood pressure.

Tiredness feeling lethargic.

Loss of appetite is pretty common and a bad thing as you need to eat.

PCT,clomid is evil stuff,can give bad sides,really bad headaches that last all day,blurred vision,clomid blues can make you very emotional,watching tv and you may start crying.A good tip is to take clomid just before going to bed that helps me a lot with the headaches.

Gains are down to diet,so high protien high calories,lift heavy and basic and sleep,you will gain a shit load of water regardless of diet but you will loose that.

After pct 5-6lbs of bodyweight would be a realistic gain.

If you can get hold of it T-bol is a better choice,you don't get the massive water gain.

Exactly right what Albert says. I did a Dbol only cycle awhile back and gained at one stage something like 15lbs but after the PCT I have a solid [touch wood] 6-8lbs gain which I'm happy with and helped me get past a sticky point.

Dbol doesnt affect testosterone, it hammers protein synthesis through the roof and I only used a dosage of 15mg Eeach day with weekends off. I used Nolva and Clomid comming off alongwith tribulus. I have read in the medical literature here in the UK that they used Dbol in the 60's on children and adolescents with growth problems at a dosage of 5-10mg and it worked wonders for them. The dosages BBs use are insane .. u dont need much.

 

[Rude_God]

So, you guys obviously know your stuff. So what's the concensus - Dbol or Tbol? And where would you recommend getting it from?

 

[phatdick]

Stay away from Net sites Buy local , Gyms ....etc

Do your homework and go with injectable , less stress on your liver kidneys .

Id say if you are a newbie to this ..I would say stack some Deca with Equabiose for 8 weeks Eat right , work out till you puke and sleep plenty and you will get 30 Pounds and keep most of it ..looking for size to keep ??? go Anabolic Androgenic will give you temporary gains mostly water and bloating . Enough said I don't want to lose my license ...lol

 

[blackster1975]

looking impressive odin, can i ask how many cycles you have taken if you dont mind

 

[blackster1975]

My personel favourite cycle is:-

week 1-5 40mg danabol, 400mg deca, 500mg test enanthate
week 6-10 400mg deca, 500mg test enanthate
week 11-12 500mg tes enanthate

its a good all round cycle.

 

[blackster1975]

you shouldnt stack deca and equpoise they both so similar personally i'd stack stack test with the deca, otherweise you could get a bad case of deca dick, only my opinion mind.

 

[big bori333]

Ive done a test E and proviron cycle with hcg throughout followed by nolva+clomid+tribulus and tonglat ali for natural t boosting...i gained about 6 lbs and kept it all

best advice is to do lots of research and find a good source....

elite fitness and outlawmuscle are very legit

 

[big bori333]

hows the libido and erections on : dbol, t bol, anavar???

 

[REDZULU2003]

I did a Dbol only cycle for 10 weeks at 15mg ED with the weekends off.
Weekends were skipped to keep stress off the Liver and prevent total shutdown from such a long course. I took the dosage in one go and sure I know all about the halflife being not long and guys breaking the dosage through the day for even blood levels etc but wasnt worth it with 15mg.

Anyways I did that for 10 weeks straight and did my HIT routine consistently ... nothing out of the ordinary. Diet was good.

After the 10 weeks, well week 9 I started Nolvadex at 20mg ED and than starting week 10 [End of cycle] hit Clomid at 50mg ED. Did the clomid for 20 days but stuck with the Nolvadex for 4 weeks. Both dosages are low for those two drugs but I didnt need such a massive dosage from my lower dosage in the Dbol.

During this time I was takeing Rhodiola Rosea [Good for strength], Tribulus Terrestris at 90% Saponin strength plus some Fenotest. I had the Fenotest around and its mainly Fenugreek extract, similer to Tribulus.

The Tribulus was for the whole 4 weeks at 1000mg [1g] ED split into two disages every 6-8 hours.

OK the results .. which many of my mates said would be shit .... I gained around 18lbs in the actual cycle ... not bad for 15mg dbol ED with weekends skipped!!! but as we know Dbol gains dont keep well, but I managed to cement 8/9 solid pounds of good quality mass ... mostly muscle. I was happy as a pig in shit.

Try that cycle if your new ... not harsh on the liver at all and I took 1g of Milk Thistle EVERY DAY during the cycle, which kept that liver in tip top condition.

NOTE: Dont always believe everything you read on these BB forums from stupid twats who LIVE on them. At the end of the day USE COMMON SENSE and RESEARCH your drug of choice and look into PROPenis EnlargementR MEDICAL LITERATURE such as guys who are qualified in medicine and know about the compounds on a medical level. Guys like that write books on them with many tips and advice. I'm not saying that all advice on BB forums is bad .. IT ISNT but be careful as some know FUCK ALL and are on the juice most of their lives and cant get off the stuff!!! PCT is the most important part of it all, get that right and you will keep most of your gains and I would have ran HCG with what I know now but you live and learn.

Steroids are a good way to help one gain an edge but dont use them all the time ... 2 cycles per year is plenty.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Oh yea and I bought my supplies from China ... who said they were all phony?

 

[tgotti83]

I never did Dbol, but did a lot of other stuff from age 19-23. I took roughly 2 years off the gym, and am making incredible gains coming back all natural. IF you are going to take Dbol you need to stack it with something else like Deca. And when you get off it, a good PCT to use is the ANDRO // Superdrol. You will keep a lot of your gains using that, which took me many years to figure out.

I don't recommend the use of Anabolic steroids. They screw with your mind, and are awesome when you are on them, but can be devastating when you get off. Losing your gains causes depression, and not only that your sex life goes in the toilet until your natural test production kicks in.

 

[big bori333]

I don't recommend the use of Anabolic steroids. They screw with your mind, and are awesome when you are on them, but can be devastating when you get off. Losing your gains causes depression, and not only that your sex life goes in the toilet until your natural test production kicks in.

X100!!!!!!!!

 

[goldmember]

@RED

The doses of dbol you used wouldn't have much of an impact on test levels, but if you used it as is commonly recommended (about 20-30mg every day for two months) you might see a big decrease in natural test post cycle. Also, with orals, it is best to use them every day in divided doses since the half-life is so short.