Cable Cuff hanging

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I decided to try the hanging thing for the first time. I got a cable cuff, wrapped it heavily with thick medical tape. The real cushy kind. When I close it, it fits perfectly without slippage. I drilled 3 holes in it to hang thin rope. Then I attached a 5 lb dumbbell, and bingo! I'm hanging! I see what you guys mean. I feel a stretch I've never felt in the many, many years of Penis Enlargement. I'm sore after ten minutes.

I'll keep you posted on results.

WL
 
Yep. Same thing. The orange clamp from Home Depot. It has written on the side, Cable Cuff. That thing just made me one sore mofo.
 
This thing works great. I've been hanging 5 lbs for 20 minute sets with no slippage. I am warming up for over 10 minutes with a heating pad. I am up to 3-4 hours of actual hanging per day. I've tried 10 lbs for a few minutes, but I can tell my internal structure and skin isn't ready for that much weight, so I'm sticking with 5 until I feel like it's not a stretch any more. I feel an incredible pull at the base and my CC feels like it's getting a very good stetch, sore even. I feel I'm putting a small amount of stress on the ligs, but in reading Bib's posts, it takes a while for the skin and internals to stretch. I think the ligs are the last thing to stretch.

For some reason, I feel this will yield results I haven't experienced with manual stretching, jelqing and clamping.

Will keep posting results.
 
Woodie,

>I feel an incredible pull at the base and my CC feels like it's getting a very good stetch, sore even. I feel I'm putting a small amount of stress on the ligs, but in reading Bib's posts, it takes a while for the skin and internals to stretch. I think the ligs are the last thing to stretch.<

Actually, the stretch you feel is more dependent on the angle of hang. The ligs are generally easier to stretch than the tunica. But depending on your LOT, they generally are only engaged at the lower angles.

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BIB! Great hearing from you. I've been on all these boards with you since the old Penis Enlargement board, pre-Thunders.

I've just started hanging. I've read most of your posts and have tried to follow all your wisdom. I am hanging straight down and am beginning to hang at about a 70 degree pull upward. The downward pull I feel more in the internal penis, meaning the CC and tunica. No stretch in the lig is felt. The upward pull hits the ligs only, no stretch on the internals at all. I felt a strong "pop" when I first started pulling in the upward position.

If this makes sense, I've always thought my penis connected high on my body, so it never hung as low as my balls. A six inch flaccid doesn't hang as low as my balls because of this. I've always thought ifI could "pull out" or "pull down" my penis to make to connection point lower, it would make me look lots longer when flaccid. I , nor my wife, wants more length, but I want to make my connection point lower.
 
WoodieLong said:
I am hanging straight down and am beginning to hang at about a 70 degree pull upward. The downward pull I feel more in the internal penis, meaning the CC and tunica. No stretch in the lig is felt. The upward pull hits the ligs only, no stretch on the internals at all.
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What?! Are you in the inverted position (feet towards the ceiling) while hanging? lol

Maybe there is a confusion here... anyway, if you want to lower your exit point you should be hanging BTC, or maybe try some of them DLD expressive stretching.

Maybe I got this wrong, my not so good english sometimes still surprizes me. Anyway, try BTC, you´ll like it.
 
My LOT is low, between 8 and 6. That's why the initial downward pull was felt in my tunica, not my ligs. At the SO and SU angles, It is only hitting the ligs, and I mean hard and intense. My ligs have always been my only limiting length facor. After a long warmup, when my penis is very pliable, when I pull straight out to measure stretched length, I feel only the ligs keeping it from measuring 10 inches. I'm not sure if everyone is that way, but I feel no tunica stretch or skin or whatever, during a straight out stretch, just the ligs. I lengthen my ligs, I lengthen my penis. Period.

Thanks Bib.
 
Woodie,

It does sound as if you are upside down. I have never heard of a guy stretching his ligs hanging or stretching straight up. The ligs are generally loose in that position.

At any angle, the tunica, from the shaft/lig attachment to the head can be stretched. At the upward angles, above the LOT, the entire tunica, inner and outer can be stretched. Most guys feel this stretch behind the balls. At the lower angles, generally, depending on the LOT, the ligs are engaged, and take the stress away from the inner tunica. But the outer tunica is still stretched.

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Woodie,

Meant to add: If you wish to lower your exit point, the only way I know of is to hang at the lower angles stretching the ligs and skin down. Your scrotum and balls will go along for the ride, but your penis should eventually hang lower than the scrotum. No guarantees though.

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Bib, I am hanging with the weights strung over a knob on a hutch door that is above my chair, acting like a pulley. The thin rope is tied to the clamp via three holes drilled in it, then is strung over the knob at angles varying from 90 degrees to roughly 70 degrees, depending on where I position my body in relation to the knob. The weight is added to the end of the string, and voilà, I'm hanging straight up.

My ligs are all I feel when I hang like this, right along the top running form base to head. There is no, and I mean no, stress on anything else.

When I hang straight down, my ligs feel very little, if any, pressure. They are not tight. I feel all the stretch in the tunica, CC, all the internal structure.
 
I wish I could tell what is being stretched... it still feels like nothing but skin to me while I'm stretching but I can feel internal soreness (especially at the base, and a bit up from the base under the fat pad) after hanging...
 
Woodie,

>My ligs are all I feel when I hang like this, right along the top running form base to head. There is no, and I mean no, stress on anything else.<

I think you are feeling the septum of the tunica there. The ligs do not run all the way to the head. They should connect fairly close to the base. If you can describe it a bit further, I can try to figure it out.

>When I hang straight down, my ligs feel very little, if any, pressure. They are not tight. I feel all the stretch in the tunica, CC, all the internal structure.<

Do you see how that does not make sense? If you stretch the ligs at the upper angles, then how could you not stretch them at the lower angles?

Please explain the difference in feeling between hanging up and hanging down.

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I'll try my best to explain how it feels. I think you understand how I hang in an upward angle. When in this position, my skin is relatively loose and the pull is directly hitting what I've always thought were my ligs by looking at the dozens of diagrams of the penis. It's either the ligs or the dorsal vein, but it can't be the vein because it is too hard and veins extend easily and would "collapse" when I pinched it. It is roundish, the diameter of a thin, dress shoestring, runs right under the top of the shaft from inside my body (obviously) all the way to the head. If I pinch the top of my penis along the shaft, it's the only hard thing I feel. It is always harder the the rest of my penis, whether flaccid or erect. When I pull straight out flaccid, it's the only limiting factor, the skin is not stretched at all. That's about as detailed as I am able to describe it. Again, I've always thought it was my lig, but...

As far as hanging down, the best way I can describe it is, I don't feel all the pull or pressure on the thing I described above. I feel the pull and pressure in the sides (not on the sides like the skin, but internally like the CC) like it's hitting the internal structure of my penis. Yes, there is some pull on the (above), but I feel more, I guess the word to use is pain, in the sides, but not the (above). I let it hang to the right and left of my balls, it won't hang straight forward when I'm almost BTC.

I use the word pain, but it's a stretching pain, not a hurting pain. I've Penis Enlargement'ed for over 10 years, so I know when my body tells me to take a rest. Right now with the SU hang as intense of a pull as it is, I'm doing a 3 days on 2 off for about 2 to 4 hours each on day. It take a few minutes break and loosen the clamp every 15 munutes or so to get the circulation going good and to reheat if necessary. The clamp is tight but I've never felt numbness of coldness.

Thanks for your support and advice, Bib. As usual, you da man.

WL
 
You might be putting the stress on the dorsal nerves or dorsal vein when hanging upwards. Be very very careful. When you stretch the ligs you should start to feel soreness at the base area, up to the abs, or on the sides close to your very upper legs. Maybe you need to check some penis anatomy pics, that will surely help with your doubts.
 
I feel soreness internally in the base area as well as inside each side near the base of the shaft. And like I said, whatever this is seems to be my only "limiting factor" for regards to length. It needs to be stretched if I have any chance of gaining length.

I know a little about biology, and this is not a nerve or vein, unless it is severly thrombosed and has become "solid." Veins collapse and stretch easily, as do nerves. Think if all the veins and nerves in your body were rigid and unflexable. Tendons and ligaments are typically more rigid and unflexable, hence the many ACL tears and rotator cuff injuries.


WL
 
Woodie,

>I'll try my best to explain how it feels. I think you understand how I hang in an upward angle. When in this position, my skin is relatively loose and the pull is directly hitting what I've always thought were my ligs by looking at the dozens of diagrams of the penis. It's either the ligs or the dorsal vein, but it can't be the vein because it is too hard and veins extend easily and would "collapse" when I pinched it. It is roundish, the diameter of a thin, dress shoestring, runs right under the top of the shaft from inside my body (obviously) all the way to the head. If I pinch the top of my penis along the shaft, it's the only hard thing I feel. It is always harder the the rest of my penis, whether flaccid or erect. When I pull straight out flaccid, it's the only limiting factor, the skin is not stretched at all. That's about as detailed as I am able to describe it. Again, I've always thought it was my lig, but...<

I suppose it could be a lig, if it was loose when stretching at the upward angles. But if it is tight, as you describe, I would say it is a longitudenal fiber or bundle of the tunica, or the septum. Not a lig, if tight.

>As far as hanging down, the best way I can describe it is, I don't feel all the pull or pressure on the thing I described above. I feel the pull and pressure in the sides (not on the sides like the skin, but internally like the CC) like it's hitting the internal structure of my penis. Yes, there is some pull on the (above), but I feel more, I guess the word to use is pain, in the sides, but not the (above). I let it hang to the right and left of my balls, it won't hang straight forward when I'm almost BTC. <

Here you could be hitting the fundiform ligs on either side of the shaft, or the lateral suspensory ligs. The feeling should be toward the base, or sides of the base at the lower angles.

>I feel soreness internally in the base area as well as inside each side near the base of the shaft. And like I said, whatever this is seems to be my only "limiting factor" for regards to length. It needs to be stretched if I have any chance of gaining length.<

Is that feeling at the lower angles?

>I know a little about biology, and this is not a nerve or vein, unless it is severly thrombosed and has become "solid." Veins collapse and stretch easily, as do nerves.<

That is correct. You could not palpate a nerve, and a vein would be stretchy.

The ligs connect to various aspects of the pubic bone, and either wrap around the shaft, in the case of the fundiform ligs, or attach to the tunica on the top and sides of the base of the shaft, the median and lateral suspensory ligs. So they act a bit like the cables that support the boom on a crane, that raise and lower the crane.

Since the attachments of all the lig bundles go from the pubic bone to the shaft, or around the shaft, the upward angles of hang would have a hard time affecting the ligs. They should generally be loose when hanging at the upward angles. By the same token, they should generally engage, at some point, as the angle of hang goes down.

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"I would say it is a longitudenal fiber or bundle of the tunica, or the septum"

Are any of these possibilities easily stretched? Your description of a cable lifting a crane in an analogy I almost used; it feels very much like that's what it could be. It is very tight when hanging or pulling straight up. Not nearly as tight when hanging down. As described before, it seems to be the only thing keeping me from pulling it straight out or up any further. I can feel it all the way into my body as far as I can dig for it, and it's the same hardness and diameter all the way from the head to where it attaches to my pubic bone. As far as I can tell, it seems like it's what is connecting my penis to my pubic bone.

"Here you could be hitting the fundiform ligs on either side of the shaft, or the lateral suspensory ligs. The feeling should be toward the base, or sides of the base at the lower angles."

Exactly. The soreness in the internal sides is from lower hanging. It pulls more "inside" the sides than the (above). I get very sore on each side, near the base. But if I hang upwards at an angle, say pulling at an angle to the right, I do feel a serious stretch in the left side.

"Since the attachments of all the lig bundles go from the pubic bone to the shaft, or around the shaft, the upward angles of hang would have a hard time affecting the ligs. They should generally be loose when hanging at the upward angles. By the same token, they should generally engage, at some point, as the angle of hang goes down."

This would have me believe they are not ligs, then. Possibly the tunica or septum. I've read others describe it the way I did above. It feels like a thin shoestring right under the skin.

It would seem to me, since I am able to put so much direct pressure on it at the upward angle, that I should be able to stretch it fairly easily. If I was getting a generic, overall stretched feeling much like when hanging down, then I would be attempting to stretch the internals as well. But since this is getting so much direct attention, it should be stretched (hopefully) rather easily. Or is that wishful thinking?


WL
 
Woodie,

>Are any of these possibilities easily stretched?<

No, they are tough collagenous fibers.

>Your description of a cable lifting a crane in an analogy I almost used; it feels very much like that's what it could be. It is very tight when hanging or pulling straight up.<

The analogy is not perfect, because the cable on the crane can lengthen or shorten. The ligs cannot. But the ligs do support the shaft, as the cables support the boom on the crane. If you stretch at the upper angles, just think of a force raising the boom of the crane, without shortening the cables. The cables would become loose.

>Not nearly as tight when hanging down.<

I do not know what structures would fit this, that is easily palpated. The only thing that should physiologically fit the parameters (lower angle hanging) is the inner shaft, inner tunica, from the ligs to the anchor points. The outer tunica should be tight, and the ligs should be tight at the lower angles.

>As described before, it seems to be the only thing keeping me from pulling it straight out or up any further. I can feel it all the way into my body as far as I can dig for it, and it's the same hardness and diameter all the way from the head to where it attaches to my pubic bone. As far as I can tell, it seems like it's what is connecting my penis to my pubic bone.<

Really strange. There is no single structure that goes from the head to the pubic bone. The shaft goes under the pubic bone, almost to the anus. The ligs attach to the shaft/tunica toward the base, and then attach to the pubic bone.

>It would seem to me, since I am able to put so much direct pressure on it at the upward angle, that I should be able to stretch it fairly easily. If I was getting a generic, overall stretched feeling much like when hanging down, then I would be attempting to stretch the internals as well. But since this is getting so much direct attention, it should be stretched (hopefully) rather easily. Or is that wishful thinking?<

Any collagenous tissue, connective tissue, is tough by nature. It does not generally stretch easily, as compared to say the skin. But with time and stress, it will deform and stretch/grow. It may take much more than five lbs of stress though. Also, heat during the first half of your session will help. Then, no heat for the last half of your session to allow the tissues to cool in the extended state.

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"No, they are tough collagenous fibers."

Damn.

"Really strange. There is no single structure that goes from the head to the pubic bone. The shaft goes under the pubic bone, almost to the anus. The ligs attach to the shaft/tunica toward the base, and then attach to the pubic bone."

That is strange. I've read others describe this, so I know I'm not imagining it or unique. It feels to me like it is attached to the bone, so maybe I have an unusual lig biology? I can't remember if it's always been like this, or maybe over time it developed. I once saw a site where they described "plaque" in the tunica albuginea, causing Peyrones, with the curve upward. Although I have always had a decent upwards curve, it's nothing excessive or severe by any stretch of the imagination.

"It may take much more than five lbs of stress though. Also, heat during the first half of your session will help. Then, no heat for the last half of your session to allow the tissues to cool in the extended state."

I'm only using 5 pounds to get used to hanging; only been at it for two weeks now. Once I feel like I am used to 5 and not getting sore, I'll move up to 10. When I do, I want to experiement with the shorter 20-30 minute once a day routine. My dick is very toughened from over 10 years of Penis Enlargement; manual stretching, jelqing, clamping, etc,...so I think the heavy but shorter routine may work better than a longer, lighter routine. I do heat for about 15 minutes prior and it gets very warm, then let it cool as I hang.

With the soreness I am experiencing, I think I might see some quick results. I haven't been this sore in a long, long time. I am pretty damn sore right in the base area on both sides and in the area you have described when hitting the ligs.
 
Bib,

in doing a bit more research, do you think it's possible it's the fundiform ligament? Or arcuate subpubic ligament? Medial Suspensory Lig?
 
Woodie,

>I'm only using 5 pounds to get used to hanging; only been at it for two weeks now. Once I feel like I am used to 5 and not getting sore, I'll move up to 10.<

Just move up 1-2 lbs per week. Not five. Give the soft tissues time to adapt.

>in doing a bit more research, do you think it's possible it's the fundiform ligament? Or arcuate subpubic ligament? Medial Suspensory Lig?<

Not if they go all the way to the head. The fund lig attaches on the sides of the PB, and wraps around the base of the shaft, making a saddle. I believe the subpubic lig is under the PB attaching to the tunica. And the MSL attached to the median PB and the top of the tunica.

It may just be that you cannot palpate the difference between where the ligs stop, and the fibers of the tunica and other assorted tissues of the shaft begin.

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Thanks Bib. It may very well be I can't discern where one starts and the other begins. But if I had to bet my last dime, I'd bet it's all the same structure. When I warm up REALLY well, say for 30 minutes with a moist heating pad, it becomes extremely pliable, almost as if the CC collapses under any pressure. When I deeply massage from the base to the head, it's literally the only hard or solid structure I feel. It is discernibly the most rigid structure in my entire penis. There seems to be some smallish "bumps" along the length, so it's not completely smooth or round. I've examined many illustrations and cadaver autopsy photos, and from the looks of them all, I still can't determine exactly what it is.

Whatever it is, I'm going to (slowly) stretch the hell out of it and make it longer. I'm going for 9 NBPenis Enlargement, and 7 flaccid.

Thanks again.

WL
 
My LOT is anywhere between 8 to 6. There is NO pullback whatsoever. Is it odd to have such a long range of no pullback, or is my "real" LOT 8 beacuse that's where it starts?
 
Woodie,

>My LOT is anywhere between 8 to 6. There is NO pullback whatsoever. Is it odd to have such a long range of no pullback, or is my "real" LOT 8 beacuse that's where it starts?<

I am not following. You say there is no pullback, but then you ask if your real LOT is 8 because that is where it starts?

If you get a tugback at 8, but no tugback below 8, then your LOT is about 8. That is where your ligs engage, taking the stresses of the stretch away from your inner tunica.

This means you have a goodly amount of potential for gains from lig stretch, and should work the lower angles.

Bigger
 
The "start" of loss of tugback begins at right below the 8 o'clock angle and continues through all lower angles. From 9 o'clock angle up to 12, I have quite a bit of tugback. It is fairly strong at the higher angles.

This is what makes no sense to me. Like I've posted earlier, at the SU angle, I engage the "lig" or what we cannot identify, almost exclusively. It bears the brunt of the pull. I do feel this "thing" at the lower angles, but I also strongly feel the pull in the ligs along the side, where I do not feel them at the SU angle. When pulling at the lower angles, I get very, very sore along the sides near the base.

WL
 
Woodie,

>The "start" of loss of tugback begins at right below the 8 o'clock angle and continues through all lower angles. From 9 o'clock angle up to 12, I have quite a bit of tugback. It is fairly strong at the higher angles.<

Then your LOT is about 8. Having strong tugback from 9 up is fine.

>This is what makes no sense to me. Like I've posted earlier, at the SU angle, I engage the "lig" or what we cannot identify, almost exclusively.<

From your LOT test, you have proven it is not a lig.

>It bears the brunt of the pull. I do feel this "thing" at the lower angles, but I also strongly feel the pull in the ligs along the side, where I do not feel them at the SU angle. When pulling at the lower angles, I get very, very sore along the sides near the base.<

I just have no idea what it could be.

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If I had to guess what a ligament felt like, this would be it. Or a tendon. But since there isn't one that runs the length, I am guessing it is the septum of the tunica. I know I get sore on the sides, but an starting to get sore under my balls like you described earlier. Hopefully that's a good sign of growth.

Thanks for all the help.
 
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