Bottoming out?

[DLD]

Anything over 6x5 is big, realistically and statistically. Especially with lower bodyfat levels.

So agree. We become disillusioned here, thinking that 6 x 5 in no big deal when it really is a big deal. To most women this would be a large size. Of course there will always be a woman who wants a horse but those types of women are not usually keepers. Feel good about 6x5 it is a great size. If you want to go bigger, go for it.

 

[Phoenix7672]

So agree. We become disillusioned here, thinking that 6 x 5 in no big deal when it really is a big deal. To most women this would be a large size. Of course there will always be a woman who wants a horse but those types of women are not usually keepers. Feel good about 6x5 it is a great size. If you want to go bigger, go for it.

Personally still have issues wrapping my head fully around that one...but I know I am dysmorphic when it comes to size, given in all honesty the golden 8"x6", especially if BPEL, doesn't seem that big to me. I think some of us need to adopt a view of believing the stats more than what we "see". Apparently I'm already huge soft and big hard, but I really don't see it with my own eyes.

 

[cladre60]

7.5 in length is huge and maybe you should just make the girth 6 inches

Find objects in your house that are varying girth sizes from the average 4.5-4.75" all the way up to 6" girth. Put them in your mouth and see how long you can comfortably hold them there. You'll quickly see why I'm not aiming for 6" girth.

Don't put them in all at once.

I don't get nearly as many BJs as I'd like but when I do I prefer them to end when I'm pulling her off to fuck her brains out, not end with her telling me her jaw hurts too much to keep going. I've had some BJs that went on so long the girl's jaw got sore (and a few quitters that claimed it after a few minutes) but they were long good BJs.

Find the video DLD has where he plays with I mean measures 5 or 6 dildos. When you actually see the size differences in that way it's shocking.

 

[cladre60]

Personally still have issues wrapping my head fully around that one...but I know I am dysmorphic when it comes to size, given in all honesty the golden 8"x6", especially if BPEL, doesn't seem that big to me. I think some of us need to adopt a view of believing the stats more than what we "see". Apparently I'm already huge soft and big hard, but I really don't see it with my own eyes.

Believing the numbers is huge and extremely important. Its been said here to have plenty of sex before starting PE as your changes will be permanent. Plus do the math. If 5" is average and you grow to 6 that's a 20% increase. Get to 7" and it's 40% larger than average. 40%!!!!!! That's fucking BIG. It's part of why I'm thinking 7.5-8" BPEL is perfect for me as its 50% larger than average. That's a penis and a half in length! If that combined with a 5.5-5.75" girth doesn't satisfy a woman nothing will.

If you don't know what you're doing with an average size you still won't know with a large size. You'll become one of those guys that get a rep as "well he was huge and it felt good in me but that's about it. He sure didn't know what to do with it." I also recommend having sex while doing PE to gauge how you're changing. While 8x6 might be a goal you could find out the woman you're madly in love with can't handle that much penis often. While sex isn't the only thing that keeps a relationship going it is part of bonding. If she's in pain then it ruins sex.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

While sex isn't the only thing that keeps a relationship going it is part of bonding. If she's in pain then it ruins sex.

If your partner cums like never before, it can smooth-over almost any rough-patch. If she feels desired and you're puttin' it down better than she's ever had, you've got The Golden Ticket

 

[cladre60]

If your partner cums like never before, it can smooth-over almost any rough-patch. If she feels desired and you're puttin' it down better than she's ever had, you've got The Golden Ticket

True, however sex is useless if there isn't a resolution to the issue.

 

[huge-girth]

So agree. We become disillusioned here, thinking that 6 x 5 in no big deal when it really is a big deal. To most women this would be a large size. Of course there will always be a woman who wants a horse but those types of women are not usually keepers. Feel good about 6x5 it is a great size. If you want to go bigger, go for it.

You are right but we as men will always want more. I had sex yesterday with a lady I have known for about 11 years now. The last time I had sex with her was back in 2015. Yesterday I was obviously longer and my temporary expansion was thicker than the previous time I had sex with her. She is a single mom. She took it all but I had to go slow at first. From her reaction during sex, I was able to feel the effectiveness of my newly achieved length gains.

Size matters though

 

[huge-girth]

Personally still have issues wrapping my head fully around that one...but I know I am dysmorphic when it comes to size, given in all honesty the golden 8"x6", especially if BPEL, doesn't seem that big to me. I think some of us need to adopt a view of believing the stats more than what we "see". Apparently I'm already huge soft and big hard, but I really don't see it with my own eyes.

I can see your length is around BPEL 7.9. What is sex like for you? Are you able to do balls deep penetration with your girls?

 

[huge-girth]

Find objects in your house that are varying girth sizes from the average 4.5-4.75" all the way up to 6" girth. Put them in your mouth and see how long you can comfortably hold them there. You'll quickly see why I'm not aiming for 6" girth.

Don't put them in all at once.

I don't get nearly as many BJs as I'd like but when I do I prefer them to end when I'm pulling her off to fuck her brains out, not end with her telling me her jaw hurts too much to keep going. I've had some BJs that went on so long the girl's jaw got sore (and a few quitters that claimed it after a few minutes) but they were long good BJs.

Find the video DLD has where he plays with I mean measures 5 or 6 dildos. When you actually see the size differences in that way it's shocking.

I get your point but blowjob is not my thing so I'm not bothered about not getting any blow job at all.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I had sex yesterday with a lady I have known for about 11 years now. The last time I had sex with her was back in 2015. Yesterday I was obviously longer and my temporary expansion was thicker than the previous time I had sex with her. She is a single mom. She took it all but I had to go slow at first.

did she notice or mention the before/after size difference?

 

[DLD]

All women have different depths to their cervix and beyond Some are as shallow as 4" in my experience and some I could never even touch the cervix, never mind get behind it.

 

[cladre60]

All women have different depths to their cervix and beyond Some are as shallow as 4" in my experience and some I could never even touch the cervix, never mind get behind it.

If she's too shallow you can always play Hide And Go Anal. That goes far deeper.

 

[huge-girth]

If she's too shallow you can always play Hide And Go Anal. That goes far deeper.

Heaven knows I hate anal sex but I've tried it once. It cannot be compared to the pussy at all

 

[cladre60]

Heaven knows I hate anal sex but I've tried it once. It cannot be compared to the pussy at all

Anal sex is its own unique feeling. It's a very smooth and tight "tube" that's uniform no matter where you're at. I haven't done anal in a long time. It's not something I want to do all the time, unless she'd want it a lot, but every now and then would be fun.

 

[DutchAthletic92]

I'm aiming for 7.5-8" length and 5.5-5.75" girth. Still WAY above average and will be more than satisfying with the right skills.

5.75” girth is not big imho.... I can still wrap my hand around my shaft. Well maybe I have become completely delusional lol. I feel that’s like entry-level girthness for women. If you have a wife who can’t handle more than that would be a legitimate reason to quit training girth... Maybe... 😃

I’m close to 6” now and my next goal will be 6,5”-7” girth. I hope my length will grow as fast as my girth.

8x7 would be pure awesomeness, i’m young and single. I feel like 9x7 would fit better 😂

Oh well, back to stretching!

 

[huge-girth]

5.75” girth is not big imho.... I can still wrap my hand around my shaft. Well maybe I have become completely delusional lol. I feel that’s like entry-level girthness for women. If you have a wife who can’t handle more than that would be a legitimate reason to quit training girth... Maybe... 😃

I’m close to 6” now and my next goal will be 6,5”-7” girth. I hope my length will grow as fast as my girth.

8x7 would be pure awesomeness, i’m young and single. I feel like 9x7 would fit better 😂

Oh well, back to stretching!

I'm of same opinion with you. A big girth starts from 6 inches and ends at 7 inches. Length, I can settle for a permanent 8 to 8.5 inches.

 

[DLD]

5.75” girth is not big imho.... I can still wrap my hand around my shaft. Well maybe I have become completely delusional lol. I feel that’s like entry-level girthness for women. If you have a wife who can’t handle more than that would be a legitimate reason to quit training girth... Maybe... 😃

I’m close to 6” now and my next goal will be 6,5”-7” girth. I hope my length will grow as fast as my girth.

8x7 would be pure awesomeness, i’m young and single. I feel like 9x7 would fit better 😂

Oh well, back to stretching!

Young and single with a 9 by 7, that is a recipe for greatness!

 

[cladre60]

5.75” girth is not big imho.... I can still wrap my hand around my shaft. Well maybe I have become completely delusional lol. I feel that’s like entry-level girthness for women. If you have a wife who can’t handle more than that would be a legitimate reason to quit training girth... Maybe... 😃

I’m close to 6” now and my next goal will be 6,5”-7” girth. I hope my length will grow as fast as my girth.

8x7 would be pure awesomeness, i’m young and single. I feel like 9x7 would fit better 😂

Oh well, back to stretching!

In the grand scheme of things it's really big. I've had sex with a huge [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] pump and had to start slow.

 

[huge-girth]

Young and single with a 9 by 7, that is a recipe for greatness!

Only if he is willing to be consistent.

 

[DLD]

Only if he is willing to be consistent.

True, with dedication and hard work he will become the alphmale of his crew!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I'm hoping we're not sleeping on symmetry...8X7 just appears too fat when I look down, add an inch of length and I'd be ever-so-close to 'The Golden Ratio/Mean'

 

[huge-girth]

I'm hoping we're not ignoring symmetry...8X7 just appears too fat when I look down, add an inch of length and I'd be ever-so-close to 'The Golden Ratio/Mean'

Somedays, I wake up and say I want 8 inches, other days I wake up and say I want 8.5 inches and just yesterday after reading comments about women on Instagram saying 9 inches is all they want, now I want 9 inches length 9 X 7

 

[DutchAthletic92]

I'm hoping we're not ignoring symmetry...8X7 just appears too fat when I look down, add an inch of length and I'd be ever-so-close to 'The Golden Ratio/Mean'

Of course! When I reach 8x7, I have to put on 1 inch more in length for 9 inches.

I’m 25 years old, I have 10 years of PE in front of me. 10 years of hanging, stretching, jelqing, pumping. I started a thread about privacy, I could not lock the door properly in my dorm. My apartment has 2 guys and 1 girl roommates.

I have discovered that I can close the door from the inside and i’m completely safe for people suddenly comming in. Those doors have special electronic locks which you need a chip for.

I am very pleased to tell you guys that I am able to hang in privacy! Nobody can enter my room when i’m inside

I have 7 years of study starting in september 2018.
I’ll start hanging again and nobody can stop me

10x8 will be inevitable

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Somedays, I wake up and say I want 8 inches, other days I wake up and say I want 8.5 inches and just yesterday after reading comments about women on Instagram saying 9 inches is all they want, now I want 9 inches length 9 X 7

...let's see what tomorrow brings

 

[cladre60]

Somedays, I wake up and say I want 8 inches, other days I wake up and say I want 8.5 inches and just yesterday after reading comments about women on Instagram saying 9 inches is all they want, now I want 9 inches length 9 X 7

How many of those women actually know what 9" is like we do? I'm not a gambling man but I'd bet everything I own on the fact that 99% of women who say they want 9" have NEVER been fucked by a 9" BPEL penis.

Yes women buy 8 and 9" vibrators but when they're using it hard and fast they're holding 3" of it, maybe more. They love fucking themselves with 6" of their 9" toy.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

How many of those women actually know what 9" is like we do? I'm not a gambling man but I'd bet everything I own on the fact that 99% of women who say they want 9" have NEVER been fucked by a 9" BPEL penis.

Yes women buy 8 and 9" vibrators but when they're using it hard and fast they're holding 3" of it, maybe more. They love fucking themselves with 6" of their 9" toy.

true story

PE is for me and if I ever reach my 9" goal, I'd be happy to have a bit 'out-in-the-cold'

 

[stillwantmore]

I get your point but blowjob is not my thing so I'm not bothered about not getting any blow job at all.

Im 6" shaft girth. Little issues with oral sex or the occasional anal. Have to keep in mind, comparing a rigid object of similar size to a penis which compresses regardless of how "hard" it is, is not a fair comparison. One is a hard object with no give, the other is a piece of flesh with "give".

 

[huge-girth]

How many of those women actually know what 9" is like we do? I'm not a gambling man but I'd bet everything I own on the fact that 99% of women who say they want 9" have NEVER been fucked by a 9" BPEL penis.

Yes women buy 8 and 9" vibrators but when they're using it hard and fast they're holding 3" of it, maybe more. They love fucking themselves with 6" of their 9" toy.

YOu are right, most of them don't know what a 9 inches length looks or feels like but I'm still going for that size. it's more of an ego thing for me.

 

[cladre60]

true story

PE is for me and if I ever reach my 9" goal, I'd be happy to have a bit 'out-in-the-cold'

PE is for my ego as well but I will stop if going balls deep is too much of an issue. I enjoy that feeling as a part of sex.

Im 6" shaft girth. Little issues with oral sex or the occasional anal. Have to keep in mind, comparing a rigid object of similar size to a penis which compresses regardless of how "hard" it is, is not a fair comparison. One is a hard object with no give, the other is a piece of flesh with "give".

There is a difference between them for sure but simply looking at those different thicknesses shows you just how much of a difference there is between them.

YOu are right, most of them don't know what a 9 inches length looks or feels like but I'm still going for that size. it's more of an ego thing for me.

Don't listen to women when it comes to size. Yes they'll remember if a penis was really large or really small but they don't know sizes because every man tells them they've got 7 or 8" when really they're average.

 

[huge-girth]

PE is for my ego as well but I will stop if going balls deep is too much of an issue. I enjoy that feeling as a part of sex.




There is a difference between them for sure but simply looking at those different thicknesses shows you just how much of a difference there is between them.




Don't listen to women when it comes to size. Yes they'll remember if a penis was really large or really small but they don't know sizes because every man tells them they've got 7 or 8" when really they're average.

The single mom I had sex with a week ago always told me that her ex husband has a long penis and also said there was a time they had sex and he was going balls deep which made her bleed a bit. But when I had sex with her a week ago, she jumped off the penis while I was fucking her from doggy style. I still believe her ex husband is longer than me though but my temporary expansion was very thick and she testified to it.

 

[DLD]

PE is for my ego as well but I will stop if going balls deep is too much of an issue. I enjoy that feeling as a part of sex.

Whatever it takes to make it happen do!

 

[cladre60]

The single mom I had sex with a week ago always told me that her ex husband has a long penis and also said there was a time they had sex and he was going balls deep which made her bleed a bit. But when I had sex with her a week ago, she jumped off the penis while I was fucking her from doggy style. I still believe her ex husband is longer than me though but my temporary expansion was very thick and she testified to it.

Length doesn't always translate to a good penis. I remember a woman saying her ex husband's penis was long compared to others she'd been with but very thin with a larger head that simply didn't match the rest of it. She said sometimes all she felt in her was the head.

Plus if women think you're getting too big of an ego over your penis they won't say the things you want to hear. You could have the longest, thickest, most satisfying penis she's ever had. If you're too concerned about it she's going to say it's "okay."

Believe it or not there are some women who just don't care that much. If they are satisfied the size isn't of major concern to some especially if they've had huge with zero skill or it was painful. I heard a woman saying a guy she was with before was huge and it felt great. When we had sex she was screaming her head off and extremely into it and I was off average size at the time. She told a mutual friend that she absolutely enjoyed sex with me (and she did come back for more).

 

[RR04]

YOu are right, most of them don't know what a 9 inches length looks or feels like but I'm still going for that size. it's more of an ego thing for me.

The number of girls who think they have taken 9 but it’s really 7 is ridiculous.

 

[huge-girth]

Length doesn't always translate to a good penis. I remember a woman saying her ex husband's penis was long compared to others she'd been with but very thin with a larger head that simply didn't match the rest of it. She said sometimes all she felt in her was the head.

Plus if women think you're getting too big of an ego over your penis they won't say the things you want to hear. You could have the longest, thickest, most satisfying penis she's ever had. If you're too concerned about it she's going to say it's "okay."

Believe it or not there are some women who just don't care that much. If they are satisfied the size isn't of major concern to some especially if they've had huge with zero skill or it was painful. I heard a woman saying a guy she was with before was huge and it felt great. When we had sex she was screaming her head off and extremely into it and I was off average size at the time. She told a mutual friend that she absolutely enjoyed sex with me (and she did come back for more).

You do have a point but having a long and thick penis is something I'm doing for myself and wife to be. I don't want to feel too small inside my wife's vaginal after she must have given birth to about 2 children. And I like big women. 8.5 X 7 all the way

 

[DLD]

The number of girls who think they have taken 9 but it’s really 7 is ridiculous.

Yup, if a man is bigger than average most women will go for the number 8 or 9 instantly. I remember one girl telling me she had a boyfriend that was 13" long, when she saw my cock she said it was so much bigger than his and I told her well mine is 6.5" so someone is lying

 

[huge-girth]

Yup, if a man is bigger than average most women will go for the number 8 or 9 instantly. I remember one girl telling me she had a boyfriend that was 13" long, when she saw my cock she said it was so much bigger than his and I told her well mine is 6.5" so someone is lying

You are right. Women and exaggeration are like 5 and 6

 

[RR04]

Yup, if a man is bigger than average most women will go for the number 8 or 9 instantly. I remember one girl telling me she had a boyfriend that was 13" long, when she saw my cock she said it was so much bigger than his and I told her well mine is 6.5" so someone is lying

That is such a vast difference. I’ll never forget my significant other who I was the first for. She thought my penis was of average size, even though she didn’t have any others... she guessed it was 8”, but I was really only 6.5” at the time. I don’t know if she watched adult entertainment or had some perception that an average penis was 8” or what.

 

[cladre60]

You do have a point but having a long and thick penis is something I'm doing for myself and wife to be. I don't want to feel too small inside my wife's vaginal after she must have given birth to about 2 children. And I like big women. 8.5 X 7 all the way

Just because a woman has given birth doesn't mean she's going to be loose. My wife had 3 kids before we met. Not only was she snug for me before I started PE but she knows how to squeeze and move right.

I remember 2 girl in particular who were on the loose side (1 was very loose) and never had kids. Then another who had a few kids and was a bit overweight and felt good even with a condom on.

 

[huge-girth]

Just because a woman has given birth doesn't mean she's going to be loose. My wife had 3 kids before we met. Not only was she snug for me before I started PE but she knows how to squeeze and move right.

I remember 2 girl in particular who were on the loose side (1 was very loose) and never had kids. Then another who had a few kids and was a bit overweight and felt good even with a condom on.

I get your point but what do you think makes a vaginal loose apart from childbirth? Do you think sex with multiple partners could be a part of it?

 

[cladre60]

I get your point but what do you think makes a vaginal loose apart from childbirth? Do you think sex with multiple partners could be a part of it?

I think it has something to do with a woman's natural pelvis tilt. I thought I read that somewhere but I could be wrong.

Even then they can do kegels to tighten up. I had a girlfriend who seemed to have an extremely small bladder. She was always having to go pee and holding it until she got there. I thought I was going to break her in half the first time we had sex as she was so tight getting inside her was a struggle. I questioned if she had sex before (she had). I always had to make sure she was really wet or it was uncomfortable for me to get the head of my penis in her. No matter how much sex we had she was always tight.

Some women know they can do kegels to tighten up, some don't know, and some don't care either way. I used to jokingly say men can't make their penis bigger but women can make their vagina tighter so if a guy feels small it's because you're too loose. Obviously this was before I discovered PE. Plus if she does a lot of kegels her contractions during orgasm will be stronger. Stronger orgasms alone should be a reason for women to do it. Being tighter also makes sex feel better for both. Really it's up to how much they care and if they know or not.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Clad is spot-on, each and every vagina is different (and some vary on a daily/weekly basis). I've also been with women that have had kids and are still very snug, and one of my first encounters as a teen was with a very (I mean VERY) loose pussy and she only had a handful of experiences.

Don't assume every woman that has had a child (or two or three or...) will automatically be loose...the vagina is a very fickle organ

 

[DLD]

 

[cladre60]

I'm sure there's some that aren't even pictured there. How they look has nothing to do with how they feel. I had a girl who's pussy looked great. Outer labia were fairly full and well shaped, inner labia only became visable when she was aroused and they would form a perfect (||) look.

She was fairly loose which really sucked. It was nice to watch my dick going in and out of her but only felt okay compared to other women I had sex with. She had no children.

 

[huge-girth]

But I think when a woman sleeps with too many guys, her vaginal might become loose hence the reason why most prostitutes have loose vaginal.

 

[DLD]

I like the vagina in the upper left corner, the one with a question mark. What the hell does that mean?

 

[cladre60]

But I think when a woman sleeps with too many guys, her vaginal might become loose hence the reason why most prostitutes have loose vaginal.

If that were the case a woman in a committed relationship having a lot of sex would get and stay loose.

I've felt a woman get a little looser if sex is going on a long time or if you're playing with toys larger than yourself but it always goes back to normal after some rest. If she's got good muscle control from kegels she can keep squeezing you and feel just as tight.

I'd honestly think prostitutes just don't care about muscle control unless they're "high end" expensive ones. They're trying to get you off, get your money, and move to the next guy ASAP.

 

[DLD]

If that were the case a woman in a committed relationship having a lot of sex would get and stay loose.

I've felt a woman get a little looser if sex is going on a long time or if you're playing with toys larger than yourself but it always goes back to normal after some rest. If she's got good muscle control from kegels she can keep squeezing you and feel just as tight.

I'd honestly think prostitutes just don't care about muscle control unless they're "high end" expensive ones. They're trying to get you off, get your money, and move to the next guy ASAP.

After my wife gave birth to my Son she remained just as tight as before. I actually never encountered a loose pussy.

 

[cladre60]

After my wife gave birth to my Son she remained just as tight as before. I actually never encountered a loose pussy.

I don't have a before/after comparison. The mother of my son had a child before we met. I got used to her and thought she was fine until we split up and I found tighter.

 

[huge-girth]

I don't have a before/after comparison. The mother of my son had a child before we met. I got used to her and thought she was fine until we split up and I found tighter.

I've had similar experience.

 

[DLD]

I don't have a before/after comparison. The mother of my son had a child before we met. I got used to her and thought she was fine until we split up and I found tighter.

I have been with some I could not even get into!