pogzee;671261 said:
what i feel is......if your penis is 5 cm....then if u stretch it at 10 cm and keep it there for about 1 year...it will becorme 10 cm for ever

So you think stretching at a specific length for 1 year? Routines for length can vary, usually 45 minutes- 1 hour, some have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Without [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] lets say It'd be 1 hour x 24 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] x 12....So you would need to keep stretching for over 21,000 hours just to cement. With [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] it would be easier maybe.
 
youknowme123321;671253 said:
Any estimation on how long it took you to cement your gains?
It was relatively quick at first, I gained an inch in like two months. And a quarter inch in girth.
Then I switches up my routine to a more girth oriented routine (basically just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and squeezes and stretching) and funny enough, even though o was still stretching I didn't gain anymore length,
This is exactly why I tell people who are going for length to always so both jelqing and stretching each day, for some reason the combo really brings in length.
It's so funny because people are so dependant on devices now a days, no one wants to actually do the exercises lol
 
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MaxRichards;671172 said:
Ofcourse, I'm guessing DLD still trains regularly.

I would bet 500 dollars that if he went cold turkey (no maintenance work), DLD would start loosing size.

My comment basically states that if you do PE and stop, you will lose size from a longer/bigger starting point.

If you never did PE, you will slowly lose size from a shorter/smaller starting point.

Who knows what the speed would be... do you have any input/experiments DLD?

Have you read [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]? I have done this experiment already a few times.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671326 said:
It was relatively quick at first, I gained an inch in like two months. And a quarter inch in girth.
Then I switches up my routine to a more girth oriented routine (basically just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and squeezes and stretching) and funny enough, even though o was still stretching I didn't gain anymore length,
This is exactly why I tell people who are going for length to always so both jelqing and stretching each day, for some reason the combo really brings in length.
It's so funny because people are so dependant on devices now a days, no one wants to actually do the exercises lol

The Jeqling + stretching combo always made sense to me but I thought i was wasting my time after i gained 1 inch so i stopped jelqing, i'll have to go back to my roots and see if it helps. I think devices are fine. You can't hold a stretch for 6 hours only an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can do that. You can't get maximum intensity like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] unless you have [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] or powerstretch mabob
 
kyomoto;671421 said:
The Jeqling + stretching combo always made sense to me but I thought i was wasting my time after i gained 1 inch so i stopped jelqing, i'll have to go back to my roots and see if it helps. I think devices are fine. You can't hold a stretch for 6 hours only an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can do that. You can't get maximum intensity like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] unless you have [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] or powerstretch mabob

Great post!
 
doublelongdaddy;671540 said:
Great post!

but didnt you make basically all of your gains doing manuals?
honestly i'm still baffled by how you got your width, ive been doing width based exercises for months and getting crazy temp width expansion, but nothing is sticking. lol :P
 
jekyllnhyde360;671582 said:
but didnt you make basically all of your gains doing manuals?
honestly i'm still baffled by how you got your width, ive been doing width based exercises for months and getting crazy temp width expansion, but nothing is sticking. lol :P

Took him years though! and thanks DLD
 
jekyllnhyde360;671582 said:
but didnt you make basically all of your gains doing manuals?
honestly i'm still baffled by how you got your width, ive been doing width based exercises for months and getting crazy temp width expansion, but nothing is sticking. lol :P

The crushers right? That all you do for now?
 
templnite;671637 said:
The crushers right? That all you do for now?

Not so much since the injury, now more like ats rollers and a few crushers, which is actually even better or at least just as good.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671582 said:
but didnt you make basically all of your gains doing manuals?
honestly i'm still baffled by how you got your width, ive been doing width based exercises for months and getting crazy temp width expansion, but nothing is sticking. lol :P

ya manuals can take us a long way, good to know that even if we are isolated on a island in the middle of nowhere we could still gain lol
 
acromegaly;671671 said:
ya manuals can take us a long way, good to know that even if we are isolated on a island in the middle of nowhere we could still gain lol

Imagine. All the time in the world for PE on an island. Except for scavenging for food/water of course.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671582 said:
but didnt you make basically all of your gains doing manuals?
honestly i'm still baffled by how you got your width, ive been doing width based exercises for months and getting crazy temp width expansion, but nothing is sticking. lol :P

Manual and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] (LengthMaster) and later the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] only through testing. But most of my gains were by hand. Manual work will take longer than a routine that combines equipment with manuals but using me as an example, anyone can make great gains if they can put in the time and effort manual work requires.
 
doublelongdaddy;671693 said:
Manual and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] (LengthMaster) and later the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] only through testing. But most of my gains were by hand. Manual work will take longer than a routine that combines equipment with manuals but using me as an example, anyone can make great gains if they can put in the time and effort manual work requires.

DLD tell us about ur permanent gains and if u ever lost after quitting
 
pogzee;671705 said:
DLD tell us about ur permanent gains and if u ever lost after quitting

I'm interested in knowing as well. I know there was a point where you tested the turtling effect with tight underwear.
 
doublelongdaddy;671693 said:
Manual and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] (LengthMaster) and later the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] only through testing. But most of my gains were by hand. Manual work will take longer than a routine that combines equipment with manuals but using me as an example, anyone can make great gains if they can put in the time and effort manual work requires.
how did you get the width to stick?
im not so worried about girth because girth will come regardless, but i just cant seem to catch the width lol
 
hi everyone,

logging in after a long time....i quit PE completely i guess as i coudnt handle myself and concentrate at all so i thought i should take a break and as DLD says a short break can turn into a very long one.

I only [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrapped every day without PE but didnt GAIN ANYTHING !!!!!

also ALL my gains have gone ......i thought i had been doing PE for a while and must have cemented some gains or atleast the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap should have done that in this time...but nope.....back to square one

today is day 1 again beginning SLOWLY ...did only stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and acewrap .....

will my gains come back fast or will i have to gain all that size again ??????

if i coudnt cement anything in this time period then how long will it take ????

Lost gains come back within 30 days. You need to do PE for up to a year and also, have a maintenance routine in place. Ace wrap cannot keep your gains for you.
 
Even when you feel like doing nothing it is so important to get something in. Consistently is learned
Some evnings I sit with my broomstick ready on the sofa. Procrastinating to start the stretching session. I don't feeling it as you say. But then I just start doing it anyway. Thinking of motivation vs. discipline, and I know it's dicipline that will take me there. So I choose that.

5 minutes in and I'm into it and loving it.
 
Some evnings I sit with my broomstick ready on the sofa. Procrastinating to start the stretching session. I don't feeling it as you say. But then I just start doing it anyway. Thinking of motivation vs. discipline, and I know it's dicipline that will take me there. So I choose that.

5 minutes in and I'm into it and loving it.
Sometimes you just got to go through the motions to start that engine
 
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