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pogzee

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hi everyone,

logging in after a long time....i quit PE completely i guess as i coudnt handle myself and concentrate at all so i thought i should take a break and as DLD says a short break can turn into a very long one.

I only [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrapped every day without PE but didnt GAIN ANYTHING !!!!!

also ALL my gains have gone ......i thought i had been doing PE for a while and must have cemented some gains or atleast the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap should have done that in this time...but nope.....back to square one

today is day 1 again beginning SLOWLY ...did only stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and acewrap .....

will my gains come back fast or will i have to gain all that size again ??????

if i coudnt cement anything in this time period then how long will it take ????
 
Welcome back pogzee.Those gains will come fast,in a few weeks , a month , you should have everything back.
 
ChilDsh;670619 said:
Welcome back pogzee.Those gains will come fast,in a few weeks , a month , you should have everything back.
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ya but why arent they cemented by now or even a little bit ?
 
pogzee;670632 said:
ya but why arent they cemented by now or even a little bit ?
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Gains will come back fast. I didn't do PE for 2 months, lost a quarter inch in length. Did 3 days of PE and gained it back. Don't worry my brother.
 
pogzee;670632 said:
ya but why arent they cemented by now or even a little bit ?
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The lost gains are not cemented..once you cement gains,they will never go away..unless you squish your dick back again , like wearing tight underwear.
 
ChilDsh;670641 said:
The lost gains are not cemented..once you cement gains,they will never go away..unless you squish your dick back again , like wearing tight underwear.
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I think we can lose gains even if they're cemented. I kind of see cementing a certain amount meaning I've stabilized this length for 1 year or something but you need to continue PE in order to make it last longer.
 
kyomoto;670643 said:
I think we can lose gains even if they're cemented. I kind of see cementing a certain amount meaning I've stabilized this length for 1 year or something but you need to continue PE in order to make it last longer.
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You can lose cemented gains if you squash your penis again..like let's say you gain and cemented 1" of length,and you're done with PE,and you start using tight underwear again.You don't stretch anymore,you don't have frequent erections,you don't keep your dick elongated.Your dick is squashed in your underwear.Your doing the exact same opossite of PE,this way you will lose size.Maybe not the whole inch but you will lose some of it.As long as you cemented that 1",and you keep your tight underwear off,you keep your dick a bit elongated,you stretch your dick for 5-10 min twice a week or so,you will never lose those gains.
 
ChilDsh;670647 said:
You can lose cemented gains if you squash your penis again..like let's say you gain and cemented 1" of length,and you're done with PE,and you start using tight underwear again.You don't stretch anymore,you don't have frequent erections,you don't keep your dick elongated.Your dick is squashed in your underwear.Your doing the exact same opossite of PE,this way you will lose size.Maybe not the whole inch but you will lose some of it.As long as you cemented that 1",and you keep your tight underwear off,you keep your dick a bit elongated,you stretch your dick for 5-10 min twice a week or so,you will never lose those gains.
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True, as I shown in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] trials but the good news is they return practically immediately upon utilizing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] methods. The study on restriction was absolutely conclusive that if the penis is constricted in tight underwear or clothing it stunts not only your flaccid size but also can stunt new growth. It is wise to read the entire [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] study to really get a good understanding of why these things happen and what to do when they do.
 
ChilDsh;670647 said:
You can lose cemented gains if you squash your penis again..like let's say you gain and cemented 1" of length,and you're done with PE,and you start using tight underwear again.You don't stretch anymore,you don't have frequent erections,you don't keep your dick elongated.Your dick is squashed in your underwear.Your doing the exact same opossite of PE,this way you will lose size.Maybe not the whole inch but you will lose some of it.As long as you cemented that 1",and you keep your tight underwear off,you keep your dick a bit elongated,you stretch your dick for 5-10 min twice a week or so,you will never lose those gains.
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What if i wear loose underwwear but don't stretch? i still lose gains?
 
You know the longer you have ED the more inches you lose says here :O?
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kyomoto;670716 said:
What if i wear loose underwwear but don't stretch? i still lose gains?
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It's hard to say..you will still lose a bit of size,since you don't do PE at all,not even a maintenance routine.But not a lot,0.25" - 0.5" i would say.Even when you hit your goal size you should have a maintenance routine,nothing facy,5-10 min stretch,5-10 min jeling,etc,once or twice a week to keep your dick in good shape.If you don't do PE at all,in time you might lose some size,but not all.
 
ChilDsh;670647 said:
You can lose cemented gains if you squash your penis again..like let's say you gain and cemented 1" of length,and you're done with PE,and you start using tight underwear again.You don't stretch anymore,you don't have frequent erections,you don't keep your dick elongated.Your dick is squashed in your underwear.Your doing the exact same opossite of PE,this way you will lose size.Maybe not the whole inch but you will lose some of it.As long as you cemented that 1",and you keep your tight underwear off,you keep your dick a bit elongated,you stretch your dick for 5-10 min twice a week or so,you will never lose those gains.
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i had [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrapped all day every day for 3 months for elongation.....still i lost all my gains...why ?
 
huge-girth;670808 said:
Ace wrap is not maintenance.
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Exactly.The wrap will just keep your dick elongated,but you still need some active PE.
 
ChilDsh;670794 said:
It's hard to say..you will still lose a bit of size,since you don't do PE at all,not even a maintenance routine.But not a lot,0.25" - 0.5" i would say.Even when you hit your goal size you should have a maintenance routine,nothing facy,5-10 min stretch,5-10 min jeling,etc,once or twice a week to keep your dick in good shape.If you don't do PE at all,in time you might lose some size,but not all.
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And see that's what happened to me, break of 2 months. No PE or anything. lost 0.25". Got it back in 3 days which was really quick and surprising. So the gains are there and are easier to fetch. I think the longer you stay out of PE the more you loser over time.
 
kyomoto;670878 said:
And see that's what happened to me, break of 2 months. No PE or anything. lost 0.25". Got it back in 3 days which was really quick and surprising. So the gains are there and are easier to fetch. I think the longer you stay out of PE the more you loser over time.
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yup even i can see my gains coming back already
 
ChilDsh;670823 said:
Exactly.The wrap will just keep your dick elongated,but you still need some active PE.
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i thought atleast the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap would give me flaccid gains cuz that is what i MAINLY want....but even that didnt help
 
PE or no PE, your penis will probably shrink as you age! So... even SOME PE for maintenance is a good idea.

It's as easy as a couple of stretches and jelqs every time you go to the bathroom and/or a quick pump before leaving the house or whenever you want extra bulge in your pants.
 
MaxRichards;670910 said:
PE or no PE, your penis will probably shrink as you age! So... even SOME PE for maintenance is a good idea.

It's as easy as a couple of stretches and jelqs every time you go to the bathroom and/or a quick pump before leaving the house or whenever you want extra bulge in your pants.
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If you do PE and follow the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] principles you will never shrink,unless you have a unhealthy lifestyle/diet and your blood flow will be fucked up.Look at DLD he's not that young anymore and he's still a monster down there.
 
WTH lets say most men got a 5.5 inches long penis if they suffered from ED if they do loose one inch per year theyd have just a peehole in a 4 to5 years period of time WTF....


the last patient can start a career in adult entertainment!
 
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pogzee;670907 said:
i thought atleast the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap would give me flaccid gains cuz that is what i MAINLY want....but even that didnt help
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Flaccid gains will come with erect gains too..you will grow in both flaccid and erect.But the best way to gain flaccid size is to keep your dick elongated after an active PE session indeed.Wrap,PF,ADS,extender at low tension,whatever it doesn't matter.

PS:also getting rid of the fatpad/belly fat will benefit your flaccid size a lot.I have like 1" of flaccid length under my fatpad.
 
ChilDsh;670925 said:
Flaccid gains will come with erect gains too..you will grow in both flaccid and erect.But the best way to gain flaccid size is to keep your dick elongated after an active PE session indeed.Wrap,PF,ADS,extender at low tension,whatever it doesn't matter.

PS:also getting rid of the fatpad/belly fat will benefit your flaccid size a lot.I have like 1" of flaccid length under my fatpad.
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Lol my flaccid is 3.25 inches and my erect is 7.0. I gained more erect length than flaccid....

shortdick;670921 said:
WTH lets say most men got a 5.5 inches long penis if they suffered from ED if they do loose one inch per year theyd have just a peehole in a 4 to5 years period of time WTF....


the last patient can start a career in adult entertainment!
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No no no no. That loss of penis size is only applicable to a person who has done PE and has gained from it. They lose those gains. A person who doesn't do PE and doesn't have ED does not lose their natural length.

pogzee;670906 said:
yup even i can see my gains coming back already
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Excellent
 
LMAO, i guess it varies then, because i wear tight boxer briefs and i have had times where i had not done pe for up to 6 months, and everything was fine.
bbut i will say that when ive had what i ''thought'' were cemented gains, and quite for a while ive lost that size.
infact it just happened recently, i had an injury, but i was making expansion steadily sitting at .5 in girth higher than when i started the routine.
even after 5-6 days later id still be a quarter inch bigger, so i thought for sure i had atleast a quarter cemented, anyways got injured, to a massive break of a month and now im right back to my original girth, sux!
 
jekyllnhyde360;670942 said:
LMAO, i guess it varies then, because i wear tight boxer briefs and i have had times where i had not done pe for up to 6 months, and everything was fine.
bbut i will say that when ive had what i ''thought'' were cemented gains, and quite for a while ive lost that size.
infact it just happened recently, i had an injury, but i was making expansion steadily sitting at .5 in girth higher than when i started the routine.
even after 5-6 days later id still be a quarter inch bigger, so i thought for sure i had atleast a quarter cemented, anyways got injured, to a massive break of a month and now im right back to my original girth, sux!
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Yes it will vary for people who have cemented for whatever amount of time. Cementing gains should be translated as permanent gains that will fade away but easily come back. You have to keep doing PE in order to stay the size you are however.
 
jekyllnhyde360;670942 said:
LMAO, i guess it varies then, because i wear tight boxer briefs and i have had times where i had not done pe for up to 6 months, and everything was fine.
bbut i will say that when ive had what i ''thought'' were cemented gains, and quite for a while ive lost that size.
infact it just happened recently, i had an injury, but i was making expansion steadily sitting at .5 in girth higher than when i started the routine.
even after 5-6 days later id still be a quarter inch bigger, so i thought for sure i had atleast a quarter cemented, anyways got injured, to a massive break of a month and now im right back to my original girth, sux!
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Bringing theory to law takes time, research and a ton of feedback. For the most part men who constrict themselves end up with a very small flaccid size, it will also effect some men gain wise, meaning if the penis is constricted after training how is that benefitting the training that you just did? Remaining elongated is the way to heal in length and remaining expanded is the way to heal in girth. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] has also brought many men gains who were never able to gain or had extremely slow gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;670962 said:
Bringing theory to law takes time, research and a ton of feedback. For the most part men who constrict themselves end up with a very small flaccid size, it will also effect some men gain wise, meaning if the penis is constricted after training how is that benefitting the training that you just did? Remaining elongated is the way to heal in length and remaining expanded is the way to heal in girth. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] has also brought many men gains who were never able to gain or had extremely slow gains.
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Yeah and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is a good program to use because it takes care of the "intensity" problem that people may have.
 
pogzee;670618 said:
hi everyone,

logging in after a long time....i quit PE completely i guess as i coudnt handle myself and concentrate at all so i thought i should take a break and as DLD says a short break can turn into a very long one.

I only [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrapped every day without PE but didnt GAIN ANYTHING !!!!!

also ALL my gains have gone ......i thought i had been doing PE for a while and must have cemented some gains or atleast the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap should have done that in this time...but nope.....back to square one

today is day 1 again beginning SLOWLY ...did only stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and acewrap .....

will my gains come back fast or will i have to gain all that size again ??????

if i coudnt cement anything in this time period then how long will it take ????
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i feel you brother its demotivating when u try hard and put in work just to see everything u did didnt work its a depressing feeling man one thing is u cant give up that is not an option at all so hit these routines hard
 
kyomoto;670950 said:
Yes it will vary for people who have cemented for whatever amount of time. Cementing gains should be translated as permanent gains that will fade away but easily come back. You have to keep doing PE in order to stay the size you are however.
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permanent gains doesnt mean fade away....they should never go ever like natural length..........
 
doublelongdaddy;670962 said:
Bringing theory to law takes time, research and a ton of feedback. For the most part men who constrict themselves end up with a very small flaccid size, it will also effect some men gain wise, meaning if the penis is constricted after training how is that benefitting the training that you just did? Remaining elongated is the way to heal in length and remaining expanded is the way to heal in girth. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] has also brought many men gains who were never able to gain or had extremely slow gains.
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so what is the way to gain more flaccid then erect ??? keeping it elongated is mandatory offcourse but i dont understand will it make me gain more in erect length or flaccid length or gain same in both ?
 
pogzee;671076 said:
permanent gains doesnt mean fade away....they should never go ever like natural length..........
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Exactly, when gains are cemented they dont go away, no matter what.
I'm an inch longer and. 5 bigger than when I started and it's cemented, I've never ever gone below that new size even after not doing pe for many months, I think alot of new people don't quite grasp the concept of permanent gains lol
 
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kyomoto;670950 said:
Yes it will vary for people who have cemented for whatever amount of time. Cementing gains should be translated as permanent gains that will fade away but easily come back. You have to keep doing PE in order to stay the size you are however.
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Your not getting what I'm saying
 
doublelongdaddy;670962 said:
Bringing theory to law takes time, research and a ton of feedback. For the most part men who constrict themselves end up with a very small flaccid size, it will also effect some men gain wise, meaning if the penis is constricted after training how is that benefitting the training that you just did? Remaining elongated is the way to heal in length and remaining expanded is the way to heal in girth. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] has also brought many men gains who were never able to gain or had extremely slow gains.
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ya, i guess i may be the exception to the rule, although i do suffer from the smaller flaccid like you said, which kinda sux.
but my erect size usually stays, so im lucky in that way atleast.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671088 said:
Exactly, when gains are cemented they do go away, no matter what.
I'm an inch longer and. 5 bigger than when I started and it's cemented, I've never ever gone below that new size even after not doing pe for many months, I think alot of new people don't quite grasp the concept of permanent gains lol
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you mean DONT go away...lol
 
jekyllnhyde360;671090 said:
ya, i guess i may be the exception to the rule, although i do suffer from the smaller flaccid like you said, which kinda sux.
but my erect size usually stays, so im lucky in that way atleast.
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A big reason, outside of healing, for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap is it trains the penis to remain longer in flaccid state. The penis has a natural tendency to shrink and in order to change this you will need to use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] or you could go for long sets in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words].
 
pogzee;671076 said:
permanent gains doesnt mean fade away....they should never go ever like natural length..........
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Then why have my "permanent gains" been a loss. I've cemented for quiet a while after my limited size. Do you have these permanent gains that never fade?
 
ChilDsh;670916 said:
If you do PE and follow the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] principles you will never shrink,unless you have a unhealthy lifestyle/diet and your blood flow will be fucked up.Look at DLD he's not that young anymore and he's still a monster down there.
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Ofcourse, I'm guessing DLD still trains regularly.

I would bet 500 dollars that if he went cold turkey (no maintenance work), DLD would start loosing size.

My comment basically states that if you do PE and stop, you will lose size from a longer/bigger starting point.

If you never did PE, you will slowly lose size from a shorter/smaller starting point.

Who knows what the speed would be... do you have any input/experiments DLD?
 
kyomoto;671168 said:
Then why have my "permanent gains" been a loss. I've cemented for quiet a while after my limited size. Do you have these permanent gains that never fade?
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its because they weren't cemented yet, its really that simple brother, if you can take a month off and your still the same size,,then its cemented.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671199 said:
its because they weren't cemented yet, its really that simple brother, if you can take a month off and your still the same size,,then its cemented.
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I'm pretty sure permanent gains can fade. Okay test this for me. Don't do PE for 1 year and see how much of your gains you lost :)
 
dude look at my signature, i gained that back in 09', ive gone a year without any pe and never budge on the measuring tape.
I know permanent gains, you've just never made any yet.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671202 said:
dude look at my signature, i gained that back in 09', ive gone a year without any pe and never budge on the measuring tape.
I know permanent gains, you've just never made any yet.
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Whoa thats cool :) So you been cementing since 09?
 
I think loosing gains is a real threat a while ago i measured n i was 6.25 or something two weeks later whit no PE i was almost 6nbpel..


remember that extra half an inch is key. :)
 
shortdick;671220 said:
I think loosing gains is a real threat a while ago i measured n i was 6.25 or something two weeks later whit no PE i was almost 6nbpel..


remember that extra half an inch is key. :)
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If permanent gains are real then you need to cement your gains more shortdick
 
I cemented my gains back in 09.
I put in alot.of effort with the manuals everyday 1000 jelqs, 45 min of stretching and the entire kegeled routine and I gained an inch I'm length that I cemented, and it has never budged aswell as a quarter in in girth, then over the next year I did pe on and off and Gained another quarter, which brought me to half an inch in girth cemented.
Since 2010 I haven't really committed and everytime.I try I endup screwed for time or space privacy.
 
jekyllnhyde360;671252 said:
I cemented my gains back in 09.
I put in alot.of effort with the manuals everyday 1000 jelqs, 45 min of stretching and the entire kegeled routine and I gained an inch I'm length that I cemented, and it has never budged aswell as a quarter in in girth, then over the next year I did pe on and off and Gained another quarter, which brought me to half an inch in girth cemented.
Since 2010 I haven't really committed and everytime.I try I endup screwed for time or space privacy.
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Any estimation on how long it took you to cement your gains?
 
what i feel is......if your penis is 5 cm....then if u stretch it at 10 cm and keep it there for about 1 year...it will becorme 10 cm for ever
 
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