Update on my hanging technique. Wow.

I was talking in an earlier post about attaching my hanger to a post in my living room and letting my body provide the weight while twisting slowly from side to side.

Now I am kinda doing the same thing as a warm up, as Bib suggested, but after that I spend more time on each angle. Man, I got sore a lot quicker, especially at the angles between straight out and straight to a side. I think I might have overdone it just a tad, but I took some rest days and now am fine.

The thing is, I also now will throw one leg over the cable attaching the hanger to the column. The cable is attached to the column at slightly above waist level, so when I lean forward and do BTC stretching, the torque it puts on my ligs is immediate and much more pronounced than anything I could get by just letting weights hand while sitting. When sitting and hanging I would have to lean way back and suck in my stomach just to get the ligs to engage. Reading posts from you guys, I think maybe I am just put together weird, because, for me, just sitting and hanging with my feet propped up, I never really got much lig stress. It was all on the shaft. But, I think because my penis gets pulled all the way back, AND THEN UP, towards my shoulder blades, the torque delivered to the ligs is much greater. Not only that, but the area of effect that I feel is stressed is much, much wider than the sitting method. I can feel tension on things all the way across my stomach and over towards my kidneys. I don't have to lean back or suck in my stomach at all when doing this, and the level of fatigue is higher over a much larger area in about the same amount of time.

Anyway, I thought I would throw that out there and let you guys rip it up. Assuming the idea makes it through the guantlet of the vets, I would highly recommend this to anyone that has trouble getting the ligs to start taking some of the weight. To all the vets out there, lemme know what you think. If you guys know of reasons not to do this, please let me know. If not, I think this is going to be my reqular method.

Sounds good. I, like you have trouble getting stress or fatigue on my ligs, even at heavy weights. I look forward to Bib's and a few of the other masters feedback here, but I like the concept, and will be watching closely.

The only issues I would have with any of this is the unknown amount of force being used, thereby increasing the chance of injury. You will need to be careful, take it slow, learn what is OK and not.

Bigger

Pumpkin, Gave it a try last night and it was pretty wild. You can easily move to a lot of positions and angles, and vary the stress levels. I could really feel it. Not as easy as hanging as it seems to take a more active approach and more concentration, but I think there is something there and I will try to incorporate about 15 to 20 minutes into my routine over the next few weeks and see what happens.

Hey BIB

Speaking of injury, last night I was hanging 7.5 lbs after a 4 day break. I felt no fatigue or anything but rather a sensation of stinging. Its not the same stinging sensation I feel when skin is streched. The best way i can describe this feeling is that someone with a sharp pin was poking me near my pubes. It was very sporadic and not trageted to a localized area. It was not painful at all. Kind of ticklish or an itchy feeling. I haven't done another set since last night due to concerns. Any thoughts on what this could be? BTW, there is no fatigue at all and when i pull my shaft out there is no pain whatsoever anywhere so I don't think i torn anything or injured myself but I just wanted to make sure with you. Thanks in advance

oz,

>Speaking of injury, last night I was hanging 7.5 lbs after a 4 day break. I felt no fatigue or anything but rather a sensation of stinging. Its not the same stinging sensation I feel when skin is streched. The best way i can describe this feeling is that someone with a sharp pin was poking me near my pubes. It was very sporadic and not trageted to a localized area. It was not painful at all. Kind of ticklish or an itchy feeling. I haven't done another set since last night due to concerns. Any thoughts on what this could be?<

I do not know the exact reason for this, but I got them all the time. Kind of weird when it happens in public. I assume it is a sign of tissue deformation, perhaps a small tear that gets tweaked.

>BTW, there is no fatigue at all and when i pull my shaft out there is no pain whatsoever anywhere so I don't think i torn anything or injured myself but I just wanted to make sure with you. <

What do you think the reason is for no fatigue? Just not high enough in weight yet?

Mentos,

I used to get the itchy thing also. But this was different. Just a quick sharp jab.

Bigger

Bib,

I have been experimenting with hanging for roughly a month now. I started with 5 lbs and after two weeks worked up to 7.5 lbs. I have been very inconsistent with hanging thus far and still find myself in that experimentation stage along with being in the skin stretching phase. I have not hung for any gains thus far since the positioning of my hanger has been very close to the base. I have never felt fatigue at all yet just mostly what i feel is the skin streching and then after a few minutes, I feel a slight pull/stretch feeling on the ligaments but nothing substantial to cause fatigue. I want to make sure for the next two weeks that i have done enough skin stretching, and then i will start to hang for gains. BTW, i hang about five days a week and do on average 5 sets a day with the weekends off. My only fear is that I am causing the ligs to toughen up? Is my concern here valid or am i being too paranoid. I have got a high exit point yet my lot is low (7:30 - 7). I can palpate about 2 inches of internal penis so I am looking to devote a lot of time and energy into this once I pass this stage.

oz,

>My only fear is that I am causing the ligs to toughen up?<

The ligs or any collagenous tissue, only respond to a stress by getting thicker/tougher, when that stress is enough to begin to deform the tissues. IOW, just normal everyday wear and tear will not do it. It has to be enough stress to cause a reaction. It does not sound as if you are providing that.

Just go ahead and get your skin stretched, then attack the ligs in a dedicated fashion.

Bigger

Punkin, I have been using my body weight stretch immediatly after a 20 minute hanging set, and leaning back as hard as I can for 2 - 3 minutes at maximum stretch. It really pulls the ligs, and seems to get almost an extra half inch in the stretch.

Ozstretch,

It really does. I've been doing this regularly since I posted and I am all different kinds of sore!!!!. The PC can also be attacked easily just by leaning forward and doing PC flexes. I have to resist the temptation to just leave the thing on because it's so easy to attack every possible angle.

By the way, it sounds like you are doing the body weight stretch straight out? Try this and see if you get the same thing I do. I think when I stretch straight out like that, I flex my PC without meaning to, even if it is only slightly. If I raise up ever so slightly on the ball of my feets, I feel a much greater stretch in the area right behind the balls. I think flexing the PC is a natural reaction to flexing the quadriceps in the legs. If you bend your knees a little and rise up on the balls of your feet and let the cable keep you from falling down, you completely relax the quads and put all of the weight on the hamstrings and calves. This disengages the PC, and feels like a reverse Kegel to me. I haven't reached the point where I can get my PC to do what I want for any real length of time, so I really like this one. Raised up on the balls of my feet, I can do PC exercises if I like, but the default position ends up being a reverse Kegel without my having to conciously make it so.

Anyway, lemme know what you think. Man, I love this stuff!!

Punkin, how I use the door stretches is this way. I hang straight out for 20 minutes, then immediately attach my set up to the door and use my body weight for as long as I can, usually 2 to 3 minutes as it is very intense. Same after hanging BTC for 20 minutes, I hook up to the door, get on my knees with the strap between my legs and do intense BTC with my body weight or controlled body weight stretch. Same thing for as long as I can last, usually 1 to 2 minutes. Also 20 minute hang SD, and then attach to door and lay on the ground with knees up and push my body against the force as long as I can stand it. The theory behind this approach is that the long term fixed position hanging loosens the fibers and skin, and really prepares them for the final assault on the ligs. That last 2 minute maximum pull really gives an effective stretch with lasting results.
Thanks for turning me on to this idea, as I can really feel the difference, and like you I am loving it.

>The ligs or any collagenous tissue, only respond to a stress by getting thicker/tougher, when that stress is enough to begin to deform the tissues. IOW, just normal everyday wear and tear will not do it. It has to be enough stress to cause a reaction. It does not sound as if you are providing that.>

Thanks bib. I'm still stretching skin. Seems as though I started with "very tight" skin if that makes any sense. Once this skin stretching phase is done, then I will strart to hang for gains. I'll be sure to hang more sets and only a daily basis since time permits for me in order to shoot for that 24-7 fatigue some guys talk about to keep those tissues deformed and prevent them from healing premature and hindering progress. thanks again for your help.

just got my bibhanger today. On bibs homepage there are no pictures of cocks in action so to say. I want to see how it is supposed to be attached to the dick... =) Have tried all possibilities now...

decow,

I think SWM has a video up here at MOS. Also, there are several sets of Bib hanging pics in the pics section, some with critiques.

Any specific questions, just ask.

Bigger

Punkin, It has almost been a month since you started this thread, and I assume you have been spending a lot of time with this style of stretch. Can you provide an update as to growth, changes, experiences, and opinions.
I have been experimenting more and more with it myself, and can see it as an answer to getting a very quick and intensive stretch, and potentially into a 15 minute manual/mega fixed post stretch session.

I look forward to your feedback.

Ozstretch,

I haven't been able to do this as regularly as I would like, as my private time has recently been nil. But I can say that the stretch that I get is phenomenal. I don't really do much BTC because I do lazy ass stretches for the upper ligs, plus I don't think my potential for growth doing BTC is all that good as my starting LOT is pretty low. I am pretty sure that the ligs running along the sides are my limiting factors, because they get get as taut as steel cables when stretching to the sides, so I am focusing on them for now.

Another thing I like is how easy it is to hit the tunica. Clamp on, lean back, and apply about 80 percent of your max stretch. I find that I can't use as much weight doing tunica work as I can when doing lig work. I use the heel of my hand and press down on the top of the shaft at different locations, or sometimes to hit the side ligs I will just let my arm hand down so that my wrist is right beside the base. Turn sideways and lean, letting the shaft wrap over my wrist. The wrist bone is a very comfortable fulcrum. BTW, I can do not only bundled stretches with ease, but SIDEWAYS bundled stretches. Highly Recommended!!

Haven't measured for gains yet, won't let myself. I get too discouraged if I do that and don't see gains every single time. But I do have a noticable flaccid increase. Seems like less shrinkage during the cold times, too.