Hey guys, I really hope I'm given a chance to speak here. First off I want to issue an apology to Redzulu, DLD, MOS in general. Sorry about offending anyone in the past, pissing off anyone. Harming anyone directly or indirectly. I'm a forgiving person in my offline life and I'm sure most of you guys are as well.
Yes, I am Stillwantmore, though I now go by hanger. Sorry about misleading anyone. I had no other way to post, was not able to reach DLD or anyone else directly. PM's and emails or phone. I guess I could have started with a post like this initially, but I wasn't sure how I would be received.
Redzulu, sorry about clampingworld. Never meant to upset you with that forum, it was not a personal attack. Just wanted to do my own thing. Has since been deleted. I never made a mention on that forum or MOS about inventing clamping. I did however, neglect to mention your contributions and those of Biggirtha and others. If I had realized how upset I would have made yourself or anyone else by not giving you credit for your contributions, I would have been more careful. I did of course invite you over to give your knowledge on clamping to that forum, but you were too busy at the time.
As far as the BIB hanger/hanger issue. Let me give some clarification from my perspective. Several years ago, when BIB was working the bugs out of the production hangers (Original, Starter later on the HC) I gave him a good amount of my own personal feedback on improvements that could be made as well as gave him the encouragement to make the Hardcore available. I therefor feel at least a partial intellectual ownership on the Hardcore which hanger is based on. I have made my own small changes. It's similar but not exact copy. I also did not go into this venture blindly. I did quite a bit of homework. First of all, let me clarify the whole "Patent" thing. BIB has marked his hangers (all three designs) "Patent Pending" for about 9 years now. This always struck me as "odd". I called two different patent attorneys and told them about this situation. According to both of them, a "Provisional Patent" which allows you to use the term "Patent Pending" on an idea only lasts 12 months. Period, end of story. It cannot be renewed, or extended for any reason on the same idea. After that 12 month window, if you have not filed for the actual patent paper work your idea is not protected under patent law. You are also committing the equivalent of fraud under patent laws by continuing to mark your idea as "Patent Pending" after that 12 month period. I actually heard a VERY interested "oh really???" from the one attorney when I mentioned how long my aquaintance had been violating the patent laws. If someone had the money and desire to pursue the issue, a person can face up to $500 in fines per incident. If a "Patent" exists, he should be marking the hangers "Patented". That's also according to the attorneys I spoke with. "IF" they are patented by some off chance again, why continue to mark them fraudulently? I have more than once asked BIB about an actual patent on any of the hanger designs over the last few years. Every time he answers, I get a very vague, beat around the bush type of answer. If I am ever shown an actual patent for the Hardcore hanger design, and it's decided that my hanger with the changes I have made (I'm still adding more small changes which will be incorporated soon) is in violation of any patent law, I will in fact stop making my hanger. Until then, I'm in the clear according to the patent attorneys. Besides, patent law cases literally take (again quoting both attorneys) several years to pursue and cost way too much money for Joe Public to mess with them. Anyone ever shot a Smith and Wesson "Sigma"? Very "similar but not identical to" the Glock pistol. Same difference. So, yes I am imitating, but definitely not duplicating one of BIB's designs which I helped evolve and encouraged him to offer for sale. Imitation is after all the most sincere form of flattery.
My main desire by offering "hanger" is to make it more widely available. I believe it is the best hanger of its type currently available. It also comes with a much simpler to follow program which involves one, 20 minute set daily in a progressive fashion. Similar to "hardcore hanging" (Thanks Dash) but with my own spin that I feel is safer and more appealing to more men. Any man with at least 4 inches in erect length can use hanger. It is a universal device otherwise. I also show men all the important steps to using hanger through instructional videos, to include a fast, easy (and completely reversible) modification to the hanger for men with 5 inches or smaller in girth. I also offer hanger at the lowest possible price I can so all men regardless of their financial situation can afford to buy it at $50.
Oh, I think I recall seeing some rumors about me being involved with "hacking" or what have you here, but I had nothing to do with it. I also do not know anyone who may have been involved.
I hope this post is allowed to be read and allowed for DLD's eyes to see it. I know MOS does not sensor content as strictly as most other Penis Enlargement forums and I appreciate that. I am being completely sincere with this post. I hope I am allowed to come back as an active member and contribute to the forum. I'm also willing to make a monthly donation as a "commercial" member if that's determined to be appropriate.
Yes, I am Stillwantmore, though I now go by hanger. Sorry about misleading anyone. I had no other way to post, was not able to reach DLD or anyone else directly. PM's and emails or phone. I guess I could have started with a post like this initially, but I wasn't sure how I would be received.
Redzulu, sorry about clampingworld. Never meant to upset you with that forum, it was not a personal attack. Just wanted to do my own thing. Has since been deleted. I never made a mention on that forum or MOS about inventing clamping. I did however, neglect to mention your contributions and those of Biggirtha and others. If I had realized how upset I would have made yourself or anyone else by not giving you credit for your contributions, I would have been more careful. I did of course invite you over to give your knowledge on clamping to that forum, but you were too busy at the time.
As far as the BIB hanger/hanger issue. Let me give some clarification from my perspective. Several years ago, when BIB was working the bugs out of the production hangers (Original, Starter later on the HC) I gave him a good amount of my own personal feedback on improvements that could be made as well as gave him the encouragement to make the Hardcore available. I therefor feel at least a partial intellectual ownership on the Hardcore which hanger is based on. I have made my own small changes. It's similar but not exact copy. I also did not go into this venture blindly. I did quite a bit of homework. First of all, let me clarify the whole "Patent" thing. BIB has marked his hangers (all three designs) "Patent Pending" for about 9 years now. This always struck me as "odd". I called two different patent attorneys and told them about this situation. According to both of them, a "Provisional Patent" which allows you to use the term "Patent Pending" on an idea only lasts 12 months. Period, end of story. It cannot be renewed, or extended for any reason on the same idea. After that 12 month window, if you have not filed for the actual patent paper work your idea is not protected under patent law. You are also committing the equivalent of fraud under patent laws by continuing to mark your idea as "Patent Pending" after that 12 month period. I actually heard a VERY interested "oh really???" from the one attorney when I mentioned how long my aquaintance had been violating the patent laws. If someone had the money and desire to pursue the issue, a person can face up to $500 in fines per incident. If a "Patent" exists, he should be marking the hangers "Patented". That's also according to the attorneys I spoke with. "IF" they are patented by some off chance again, why continue to mark them fraudulently? I have more than once asked BIB about an actual patent on any of the hanger designs over the last few years. Every time he answers, I get a very vague, beat around the bush type of answer. If I am ever shown an actual patent for the Hardcore hanger design, and it's decided that my hanger with the changes I have made (I'm still adding more small changes which will be incorporated soon) is in violation of any patent law, I will in fact stop making my hanger. Until then, I'm in the clear according to the patent attorneys. Besides, patent law cases literally take (again quoting both attorneys) several years to pursue and cost way too much money for Joe Public to mess with them. Anyone ever shot a Smith and Wesson "Sigma"? Very "similar but not identical to" the Glock pistol. Same difference. So, yes I am imitating, but definitely not duplicating one of BIB's designs which I helped evolve and encouraged him to offer for sale. Imitation is after all the most sincere form of flattery.
My main desire by offering "hanger" is to make it more widely available. I believe it is the best hanger of its type currently available. It also comes with a much simpler to follow program which involves one, 20 minute set daily in a progressive fashion. Similar to "hardcore hanging" (Thanks Dash) but with my own spin that I feel is safer and more appealing to more men. Any man with at least 4 inches in erect length can use hanger. It is a universal device otherwise. I also show men all the important steps to using hanger through instructional videos, to include a fast, easy (and completely reversible) modification to the hanger for men with 5 inches or smaller in girth. I also offer hanger at the lowest possible price I can so all men regardless of their financial situation can afford to buy it at $50.
Oh, I think I recall seeing some rumors about me being involved with "hacking" or what have you here, but I had nothing to do with it. I also do not know anyone who may have been involved.
I hope this post is allowed to be read and allowed for DLD's eyes to see it. I know MOS does not sensor content as strictly as most other Penis Enlargement forums and I appreciate that. I am being completely sincere with this post. I hope I am allowed to come back as an active member and contribute to the forum. I'm also willing to make a monthly donation as a "commercial" member if that's determined to be appropriate.
