chargains;727748 said:
Great job on that accomplishment man! she clearly enjoyed herself alot lol

she is the type to not say much even if she didnt enjoy it lol, but that night I had to grab her and hold her to keep her from falling off lol.
 
bandit2010;727740 said:
yeah it gave us both a boost if you know what I mean, it allowed me to prove to her that PE does work, I need to up my game and do something besides pumping but my issue is privacy, the only place I have any privacy from her 81 year old mother is in the bed room and in the bathroom, hell she already ask why I take so long in the bathroom, old woman is nuts.

This came up in another thread. DLD suggested one of those heated foot baths cause you can take that into a room other than the bathroom. He also suggested the cheaper alternative which would be a small tub or a bucket. Either of them you could take into the bedroom to be alone with.
 
cladre60;727766 said:
This came up in another thread. DLD suggested one of those heated foot baths cause you can take that into a room other than the bathroom. He also suggested the cheaper alternative which would be a small tub or a bucket. Either of them you could take into the bedroom to be alone with.

Both are great to use. I also used to just let the water fall to the hard wood floors and use it as an opportunity to clean the floors :)
 
doublelongdaddy;727793 said:
Both are great to use. I also used to just let the water fall to the hard wood floors and use it as an opportunity to clean the floors :)

I'd do that but there's so many gaps in the floors in this place it'll just go through and down to the basement. It's an older house that needs a lot of work but the landlord only does what needs to be done.

If we actually owned it I would've torn the floors apart already, replaced the boards that have chunks taken out of them, and tightened up all the boards (in the summer on a hot humid day when they're at maximum expansion).

Actually, no, I'd never buy this house or any like it. Single pane windows, no insulation under the plaster walls (there might be some but I think this place was built in the 30s or 40s), it's on a main street so we hear traffic constantly.... The only reason we've lived here 5 years is the rent is cheap and it was the best available when we needed a place to live.
 
cladre60;727806 said:
I'd do that but there's so many gaps in the floors in this place it'll just go through and down to the basement. It's an older house that needs a lot of work but the landlord only does what needs to be done.

If we actually owned it I would've torn the floors apart already, replaced the boards that have chunks taken out of them, and tightened up all the boards (in the summer on a hot humid day when they're at maximum expansion).

Actually, no, I'd never buy this house or any like it. Single pane windows, no insulation under the plaster walls (there might be some but I think this place was built in the 30s or 40s), it's on a main street so we hear traffic constantly.... The only reason we've lived here 5 years is the rent is cheap and it was the best available when we needed a place to live.

FNMA has a cool, (and little known) rehab loan program where you can buy a POS that's about ready to fall-over and borrower 95% of the house + rehab costs.
Ex. good neighborhood, crappiest house sells for $200k as is. you budget $100k for fix-up/remodel/addition(s) for a project total of $300k...5% down ($15k) and you have a great house in a great neighborhood.

*adjust figures for your particular area*
 
Big Schwanz Acht;727811 said:
FNMA has a cool, (and little known) rehab loan program where you can buy a POS that's about ready to fall-over and borrower 95% of the house + rehab costs.
Ex. good neighborhood, crappiest house sells for $200k as is. you budget $100k for fix-up/remodel/addition(s) for a project total of $300k...5% down ($15k) and you have a great house in a great neighborhood.

*adjust figures for your particular area*

Yeah there's some safe first time buyers stuff still out there (not the stuff that screwed people over a decade ago).

Where we live now I could buy a 1600sq ft 3 bedroom fixer-upper with a tiny yard in town for $30-40k. I HATE where we live and want to move with every fiber of my being.... more than I want to add inches to my sexy shaft. That same house would be $180k where I want to move. It's worth it to me cause it's a better area with more opportunity.
 
cladre60;727806 said:
I'd do that but there's so many gaps in the floors in this place it'll just go through and down to the basement. It's an older house that needs a lot of work but the landlord only does what needs to be done.

If we actually owned it I would've torn the floors apart already, replaced the boards that have chunks taken out of them, and tightened up all the boards (in the summer on a hot humid day when they're at maximum expansion).

Actually, no, I'd never buy this house or any like it. Single pane windows, no insulation under the plaster walls (there might be some but I think this place was built in the 30s or 40s), it's on a main street so we hear traffic constantly.... The only reason we've lived here 5 years is the rent is cheap and it was the best available when we needed a place to live.

Another thing that came to mind is an oversized bath mat under the training chair, this may be another good method.
 
doublelongdaddy;725730 said:
he is a sneaky mother fucker and will take advantage of every opportunity you leave open...always be aware and watching!

that is true D he never sleeps!!>:(
 
doublelongdaddy;728311 said:
I do not allow my computer in my apartment anymore, too much of a temptation. :)

Haha, I see what you did there!

I've stayed away from this thread, but wanted to add something. Personally I wouldn't say anything over 8 inches is useless.
Heck, one could say a penis is useless, whatever size it is, as the sexual satisfaction between two (or more) people isn't just about penetration.
And definitely not about going balls deep; while some might prefer that feeling, it doesn't render anything over 8 inches in length useless. (And there are people who can take that over 8 inches balls deep ...)

We come in many sizes and I'd like to think there's a counterpart for many of us. (A bit naive to say everyone, but overall, I'd say there's a piece somewhere that you fit perfectly.)
I think it's a bit counter-productive to say anything over 8 inches is useless on this forum.
One thing to remember anyhow; "With a great dick comes great responsibility." So any Brother growing out there or having attained a goal that's really above the average (according to several studies), use your dick with care.
 
arkailija;728353 said:
Haha, I see what you did there!

I've stayed away from this thread, but wanted to add something. Personally I wouldn't say anything over 8 inches is useless.
Heck, one could say a penis is useless, whatever size it is, as the sexual satisfaction between two (or more) people isn't just about penetration.
And definitely not about going balls deep; while some might prefer that feeling, it doesn't render anything over 8 inches in length useless. (And there are people who can take that over 8 inches balls deep ...)

We come in many sizes and I'd like to think there's a counterpart for many of us. (A bit naive to say everyone, but overall, I'd say there's a piece somewhere that you fit perfectly.)
I think it's a bit counter-productive to say anything over 8 inches is useless on this forum.
One thing to remember anyhow; "With a great dick comes great responsibility." So any Brother growing out there or having attained a goal that's really above the average (according to several studies), use your dick with care.

can I get an 'Amen'??!!
 
arkailija;728353 said:
Haha, I see what you did there!

I've stayed away from this thread, but wanted to add something. Personally I wouldn't say anything over 8 inches is useless.
Heck, one could say a penis is useless, whatever size it is, as the sexual satisfaction between two (or more) people isn't just about penetration.
And definitely not about going balls deep; while some might prefer that feeling, it doesn't render anything over 8 inches in length useless. (And there are people who can take that over 8 inches balls deep ...)

We come in many sizes and I'd like to think there's a counterpart for many of us. (A bit naive to say everyone, but overall, I'd say there's a piece somewhere that you fit perfectly.)
I think it's a bit counter-productive to say anything over 8 inches is useless on this forum.
One thing to remember anyhow; "With a great dick comes great responsibility." So any Brother growing out there or having attained a goal that's really above the average (according to several studies), use your dick with care.

It is easy to become disillusioned by PE and gains. I think our perspective is much different than the world. What we see as normal is usually huge and what we see as small is usually average. This happens when you look at dick all day :) 8" is huge, easily bigger than 90% of the world, definitely a size that needs to be used properly. I have stated elsewhere that a smaller penis used with more expertise with trump a larger penis with poor performance. Women do not gauge all by penis size, here are many other areas we need to work on, besides the penis, to become good men in this bad world.
 
doublelongdaddy;728422 said:
to become good men in this bad world.

I subscribe to the 90/10 rule where 90% of the people are well intentioned, good citizens and 10% are not...the problem is that the 10% get 90% of the publicity which then skews perception...jmo
 
doublelongdaddy;728422 said:
It is easy to become disillusioned by PE and gains. I think our perspective is much different than the world. What we see as normal is usually huge and what we see as small is usually average. This happens when you look at dick all day :) 8" is huge, easily bigger than 90% of the world, definitely a size that needs to be used properly. I have stated elsewhere that a smaller penis used with more expertise with trump a larger penis with poor performance. Women do not gauge all by penis size, here are many other areas we need to work on, besides the penis, to become good men in this bad world.

The disillusionment that my average penis is small is what has driven me to be the best I can in bed. I've had women who would average 1 orgasm during sex regularly have 4, 5, 6 orgasms with me. Sure the emotional connection helped but I've pushed myself very hard, pun intended, to make up for what I believed to be a short coming (again, pun intended).

With that desire and drive to be a very giving lover (I try to be that way in all aspects of life) imagine what I could do with an extra inch.

Or 2.

Sure I'll have to adapt to more size but since it's a gradual change I can grow with it and become a sexual pleasure master.
 
cladre60;728483 said:
The disillusionment that my average penis is small is what has driven me to be the best I can in bed. I've had women who would average 1 orgasm during sex regularly have 4, 5, 6 orgasms with me. Sure the emotional connection helped but I've pushed myself very hard, pun intended, to make up for what I believed to be a short coming (again, pun intended).

With that desire and drive to be a very giving lover (I try to be that way in all aspects of life) imagine what I could do with an extra inch.

Or 2.

Sure I'll have to adapt to more size but since it's a gradual change I can grow with it and become a sexual pleasure master.

Very honest reply. PE does come with it's disillusionment's but these always turn out to benefit us. We think we are not as big as we are and this keeps us rather humble until the wife starts to notice then everything changes. PE gains sometimes, no matter how much you have gained, will no transfer to the mind as quickly as they have to the body. This deficiency causes PDD (penis dysmorphic disorder) where it becomes difficult for us to see the gains as we still hold an image of our old self in the subconscious. It is important to enlarge the mind with the penis. It is even better to take on a full body challenge, improving yourself across the board. MOS, the Brotherhood, has much more to offer than big dicks!
 
doublelongdaddy;728497 said:
Very honest reply. PE does come with it's disillusionment's but these always turn out to benefit us. We think we are not as big as we are and this keeps us rather humble until the wife starts to notice then everything changes. PE gains sometimes, no matter how much you have gained, will no transfer to the mind as quickly as they have to the body. This deficiency causes PDD (penis dysmorphic disorder) where it becomes difficult for us to see the gains as we still hold an image of our old self in the subconscious. It is important to enlarge the mind with the penis. It is even better to take on a full body challenge, improving yourself across the board. MOS, the Brotherhood, has much more to offer than big dicks!

I do have some work to do on my body, most of which could be accomplished by eating healthier.

Even though I've grown already I'm still too embarrassed at my starting size to say it on the forum even though I know there's others who started exactly where I did (and some with less). I will eventually say where I started once I hit my first goal as I know that will help encourage others in the same position. It's just a part of the whole "thinking we're smaller than we are" that has kept me from saying it.

I can say though that I will use my journey to help others once I'm able to. There will be a day someone says "Clad, I'm just as big/small as you were when you started. What did you do?" and I will pass on all i have learned and give all the encouragement I can.
 
doublelongdaddy;728497 said:
Very honest reply. PE does come with it's disillusionment's but these always turn out to benefit us. We think we are not as big as we are and this keeps us rather humble until the wife starts to notice then everything changes. PE gains sometimes, no matter how much you have gained, will no transfer to the mind as quickly as they have to the body. This deficiency causes PDD (penis dysmorphic disorder) where it becomes difficult for us to see the gains as we still hold an image of our old self in the subconscious. It is important to enlarge the mind with the penis. It is even better to take on a full body challenge, improving yourself across the board. MOS, the Brotherhood, has much more to offer than big dicks!

BDD is something really negative and harmfu,l taking the physical gains to the mind is key !:):cool:
 
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LONGERDICK7+;728621 said:
BDD is something really negative and harmfu,l taking the physical gains to the mind is key !:):cool:

It destroys many lives and it is all imaginary (for the most part)
 
doublelongdaddy;728829 said:
It destroys many lives and it is all imaginary (for the most part)

yep i see mine small still,but i have to continue whit my journey..:cool:
 
doublelongdaddy;728829 said:
It destroys many lives and it is all imaginary (for the most part)

It's weird cause I've gone through periods of my life where I was fine with my size and other times where I felt embarrassed by it. I'm starting to get comfortable with myself again as I know I'm growing.
 
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