testosterone affecting gains

i know this has been covered before, will steroids help with gains. but im more concerned with the opposite, will steroids hinder gains?
for example, when i stretch for length gains, im effectively stretching the septum. will a steroid such as decanoate make this thicker/stronger and hence harder to stretch?

EVO said:

i know this has been covered before, will steroids help with gains. but im more concerned with the opposite, will steroids hinder gains?
for example, when i stretch for length gains, im effectively stretching the septum. will a steroid such as decanoate make this thicker/stronger and hence harder to stretch?

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Good point and it sounds pretty valid. I have never done steroids but if it makes any other tissue stronger, thicker I would think it would take more effort to get the same gains if it were weaker. I have heard that steroids do shrink the testicles, not sure how much validity there is to that. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can give their input.

Not sure what a testosterone ester would do to tissue pliability, but I know that Winstrol weakens the integrity of connective tissue, hence the joint injuries it can cause. VK philosophized about using winstrol (DHT derivative) to potentiate gains.

Agree that adrogens can reduce the pliability and mount adhesion of connective tissues. They're why you used to see pro athletes popping tendons loose from the bones quite a bit.

If someone were wanting to modify the tissues in a way that would aid Penis Enlargement they might look into things like Relaxin-bearing creams. There was a thread recently on the use of DMSO as a replacement for this. I chased down some clinical results and recall being unimpressed but don't have the time right now to dig it up.

I have heard that steroids do shrink the testicles, not sure how much validity there is to that.

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Adding adrogens to the body, (rather than making the body produce more of its own with Estrogen Inhibitors and/or Testosterone boosters) , tells the body that it has PLENTY of adrogens ... so the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis shuts down its normal activity and tells the Testes to quit doing their normal job. And that makes the nutz shrink since they aren't 'required'. Jose Conseco's wife was just on TV saying Jose pretty much had -one- nut there at the end, .. and that one was only sortof. -- Bad stuff.

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Agree that adrogens can reduce the pliability and mount adhesion of connective tissues. They're why you used to see pro athletes popping tendons loose from the bones quite a bit.
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Ive heard lots of people mention this yet ive never heard of anyone actually doing it,got any examples that i might of heard of.

DLD yes AAS can temporarily shrink your nuts but its easily reversed or even prevented with the use of HCG.

EVO never thought about it before you may well be right i don't no,my gains have always been slow both before and with aas use,even if it could be proved to be correct i don't think it would put off those who choose to use aas for bb puposes.

Primary and secondary male qualities are formed by the endocrine system thereby testosterone, androgen's and human growth hormone. Testosterone differentiate cells in the embryo to form the penis. This is because of the TDF (testis determining factor) on the Y-gene.

During puberty dihydrotestosteron is formed and secreted in males developing primary sex qualities further as well as the secondary qualities, such as more hair growth, more muscle mass etc.

As far as physiological effect of testosterone i have no clue what effect it might have on fibroblasts producing more collagen and elastin fibers such as the septum. Never heard of that kind of effect... Do not have a physiology book here too look it up, sorry...

Keep in mind that penile growth during puberty is caused by different hormones and the right mix of them. Just testosterone or just hGH will
not grow a dick.

When it comes to hGH it might strenghten ligaments as human growth hormone stimulate anabolic activity such as: DNA and RNA synthesis ---> more proteins such as collagen.

hey guys, thanks for your input.
prince albert - im in two minds already about doing a short (3 month) cycle. i know with correct pct the sides can be countered, but was just worrying about this reason. recently joined the max vac challenge and stretching the hell out of it - really dont want it being a waste of my time.
just incase its any significance, i remember taking dianabol when i was last peing (when i was 18) and remember seeing a temporary decrease in the length of my penis. not sure if it recovered its legth because of my Penis Enlargement or that i stopped usage ?

Your only 22 EVO,i would wait there is plenty of time to run a cycle in the future if you really want to.

Try some natural testosterone boosters such as Tribulus or ZMA.