Study: tunica strength / deformation

Well the reason I believe in internal pressure is because PGE1 injection priapism helped me get from 5in girth to 5.5 very quickly. However, the pain was tremendous and the PGE1 tolerance was soo fast that within months I had to use 14x my beginning dose just to get a 15 minute erection. So basically the drug got too expensive, painful, and ineffective. But the gains were real. That's why I'm
Trying to find new methods to stretch the tunica now that chemical erections aren't available.

I guess what eats me up is KNOWING that gains can be had SOO quickly. I've done soo many hours of research seeing cases of people growing significantly after certain priapism situations. Meaning... internal pressure. And my pge1 experience proved that. It just frustrates me that we haven't found a way to get internal pressure THAT high via some kind of clamp/exercise technique yet.

Guys I just wanna update u with a cool piece of info I just read in another study. Might interest one of you guys.

The tunica is thinnest and contains no outer layer at the 5 and 7 o'clock positions. That is, if you were facing the penis head on, the 12oclock would be the top of the shaft and the 6 would be the bottom of the CS. 5 and 7 o'clock are on the bottom shaft just to either side of the CS. Basically the bottom sides of the CC. Those regions are the weakest in structure and about 0.8mm thick. Compared to the top of the tunica at the 11 and 1 positions being 2.2mm thick. Huge difference.

Xxxi;731904 said:

Guys I just wanna update u with a cool piece of info I just read in another study. Might interest one of you guys.

The tunica is thinnest and contains no outer layer at the 5 and 7 o'clock positions. That is, if you were facing the penis head on, the 12oclock would be the top of the shaft and the 6 would be the bottom of the CS. 5 and 7 o'clock are on the bottom shaft just to either side of the CS. Basically the bottom sides of the CC. Those regions are the weakest in structure and about 0.8mm thick. Compared to the top of the tunica at the 11 and 1 positions being 2.2mm thick. Huge difference.

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Wow, very cool, it makes so much more sense now why Bundled Stretches are so effective, every position "of the clock" so to say, it touched, not an angle goes un-stretched.

Just an update..

The latest thing I read is pretty cool. It was some medical literature about collagen properties and deformation and stretching.

To sum it up:

Collagen can stretch past it's normal limit to the point of being damaged/somewhat deformed and then return to its normal size IF the stress is released soon enough for the collagen tissue to RECOVER. However, when stress is applied even 1% beyond its normal limit and NOT released quickly, the collagen isn't able to recover and it ultimately permanently stretched and doesn't return to normal. So, collagen deformation is more an issue of DURATION more than intensity. It's all about recovery.

My best analogy would be ear piercing gauging. When someone get gauges, they keep the ear piercing hole stretched for days and weeks and months. They don't use massive intensity. But just a minor intensity CONSTANT stretch. After a duration of time however, the piercing holes are permanently stretched out massively. Sometimes the circumference of a quarter or half dollar or larger. And it's basically permanent. Big droopy ear lobes that are stretched out and don't return to original size. However, you can pull on a normal ear lobe all day and when u let go it returns to original state. It's all about the time of tension.

The holy grail of PE is finding a way to keep the penis either stretched or engorged, constantly or as close to constantly as possible. If we could keep it stretched or engorged day and night almost constantly for a week or two I think gains would be incredible. It's just a matter of how to do bay without damaging the penis due to lack of blood flow. All I know now is that recovery is the enemy. Penile tissue prolonged exhaustion is the goal.

Xxxi;732423 said:

Just an update..
The holy grail of PE is finding a way to keep the penis either stretched or engorged, constantly or as close to constantly as possible.

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Very, very, very easy to do with length but girth, no one has been able to stick with it or hold an erection long enough consistently. I tried, believe me, and after about 2 weeks I gave up, it was just so much, and that was only holding an erection for 4 hours! Priapism, if controlled, would be a PE'ers deal! Keep up the good work, I am loving the research and I am hoping for you to find some way, somehow to make this happen.

doublelongdaddy;732483 said:

Very, very, very easy to do with length but girth, no one has been able to stick with it or hold an erection long enough consistently. I tried, believe me, and after about 2 weeks I gave up, it was just so much, and that was only holding an erection for 4 hours! Priapism, if controlled, would be a PE'ers deal! Keep up the good work, I am loving the research and I am hoping for you to find some way, somehow to make this happen.

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Thanks for the reply bro. Lol when I learned about this "time under tension is the answer" proof, I PM'ed you about the sizegenetics discount. Even tho there's no discount I went ahead and paid the full price and got one ordered. Gonna wear that thing as much as possible for length and keep trying to find an answer for girth too! Soo motivated, MOS is amazing.

Xxxi;732489 said:

Thanks for the reply bro. Lol when I learned about this "time under tension is the answer" proof, I PM'ed you about the sizegenetics discount. Even tho there's no discount I went ahead and paid the full price and got one ordered. Gonna wear that thing as much as possible for length and keep trying to find an answer for girth too! Soo motivated, MOS is amazing.

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Yeah, they do not discount their products any longer but they do give us extras. In addition we give free membership to the video site when you purchase. Simply send me your order number and I will set you set you up.

Xxxi;731904 said:

Guys I just wanna update u with a cool piece of info I just read in another study. Might interest one of you guys.

The tunica is thinnest and contains no outer layer at the 5 and 7 o'clock positions. That is, if you were facing the penis head on, the 12oclock would be the top of the shaft and the 6 would be the bottom of the CS. 5 and 7 o'clock are on the bottom shaft just to either side of the CS. Basically the bottom sides of the CC. Those regions are the weakest in structure and about 0.8mm thick. Compared to the top of the tunica at the 11 and 1 positions being 2.2mm thick. Huge difference.

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That makes a lot of sense, that's where I'm getting stretch marks from my girth work. I'm trying a different way of fatiguing the tunica starting last Friday, and I feel it's going to work well. I picked up a phallosan last week and I put it on when I wake up, wearing that with medium to high tension most of the day (10 hrs). That is really kicking my tunica's ass. Then when I get home I bundle stretch and then into the bathmate for my 5x5x3 routine, then finish with either edging or sex. I know that it is definitely working well, because I had to stop using the wine vac mod (for now) because I simply can't handle it anymore. Once I've done his for a while and feel like I'm not getting my ass kicked by this routine any more I'll add it back to the mix. I feel like the constant tension during the day combined with forced expansion may be similar to a priapism in the way it affects the tissue, but time will tell.

That's awesome man I'm
Glad you're having success.

And yes I really believe that replication the priapism phenomenon is the holy grail of PE. Stress for expended Time is what causes deformation (like megalophallus after priapism). The closer we can get to simulating that, the quicker we will gain. The hard part is figuring out an effective way to keep sufficient stress on the penis for long enough

Xxxi;732848 said:

That's awesome man I'm
Glad you're having success.

And yes I really believe that replication the priapism phenomenon is the holy grail of PE. Stress for expended Time is what causes deformation (like megalophallus after priapism). The closer we can get to simulating that, the quicker we will gain. The hard part is figuring out an effective way to keep sufficient stress on the penis for long enough

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How long have you been able to go so far?

Not long enough. I've used PGE1/phentolamine injections before and those caused the longest erections for sure. But the pain became absolutely intolerable and the effects of the chemical wore off and became null after probably 10-15 injections. So I quit that. Injecting the penis and having an acidic chemical aching inside of it is miserable.

I think clamping marathons would be the next best. But after about an hour of clamping sessions, I can't produce an erection anymore.

Soooo... my latest idea is combining clamping before bed with cialis or viagra before bed as well and sleeping with a pretty fitted rubber cock ring. (Not the soft silicone...the thick black O-ring rubber ones). That was I pre-exhaust the tunics with the clamping and then hopefully get some engorgement later in the night via sleep erections with the ring on. The only down side is setting alarms for every hour or two to make sure my penis is alive.

I'm always open to new ideas...

Xxxi;732943 said:

Not long enough. I've used PGE1/phentolamine injections before and those caused the longest erections for sure. But the pain became absolutely intolerable and the effects of the chemical wore off and became null after probably 10-15 injections. So I quit that. Injecting the penis and having an acidic chemical aching inside of it is miserable.

I think clamping marathons would be the next best. But after about an hour of clamping sessions, I can't produce an erection anymore.

Soooo... my latest idea is combining clamping before bed with cialis or viagra before bed as well and sleeping with a pretty fitted rubber cock ring. (Not the soft silicone...the thick black O-ring rubber ones). That was I pre-exhaust the tunics with the clamping and then hopefully get some engorgement later in the night via sleep erections with the ring on. The only down side is setting alarms for every hour or two to make sure my penis is alive.

I'm always open to new ideas...

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Be careful with night work...one wrong move and there can be some serious damage. Like I said I was able to achieve a few hours with an erection but after a few weeks it became so hard to stay hard. I really hope you stick to this and make it happen...we all know it is possible but no one has done it accept those with priapism

And that is what gets me soo motivated man. The fact that we KNOW the big secret to PE. We know what causes massive megaloPenis and exactly how to get HUGE very quickly and permanently. Heck if we could keep the penis engorged for 24 hours straight..... that would probably the last day in our life we would need to PE ever again because I think that would be sufficient time to cause significant tunica deformation. Just a day or two. Gosh. That motivates and infuriates me at the same time lol. Knowing exactly what I need to do but not how to effectively do it lol

Xxxi;733091 said:

And that is what gets me soo motivated man. The fact that we KNOW the big secret to PE. We know what causes massive megaloPenis and exactly how to get HUGE very quickly and permanently. Heck if we could keep the penis engorged for 24 hours straight..... that would probably the last day in our life we would need to PE ever again because I think that would be sufficient time to cause significant tunica deformation. Just a day or two. Gosh. That motivates and infuriates me at the same time lol. Knowing exactly what I need to do but not how to effectively do it lol

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This is true and if there was a method PE would become worthless.

doublelongdaddy;733142 said:

This is true and if there was a method PE would become worthless.

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yep SRT the newbie routine and all those devices,just to gain an inch maybe two, if we draw a line or grab an object that measures 2 inches long we can see that is a ridiculously small object..

if we draw a line or grab an object that measures 2 inches long we can see that is a ridiculously small object

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I know you know this, but for the new bros and lurkers, .. in terms of a human penis, 2 inches is indeed a negligible size. But adding 2 inches to something that is already 5 or 6 inches creates a highly notable increase in Volume being Displaced. (that is .. how much Dick they'd be putting into something.) 2 inches isn't much, but 7 or 8 inches frikkin well is.

A quick trip by The Visualiser - The Cock Comparison site shows that going from the site's default example size of 6x5 to 8x5.5 creates a penis of o-b-v-i-o-u-s-l-y larger size and an increase of 62% (!) greater volume.

If somehow oddly Zero added girth was ever gained, the resultant 8x5 is still radically longer in appearance and still a 36% greater amount of volume.

Just wanted to have the point be (no pun) graspable ... that it isn't 'just 2 inches' , it's 33% More inches, and brings a lot of authority to whatever you put it in.

Asanon;733182 said:

I know you know this, but for the new bros and lurkers, .. in terms of a human penis, 2 inches is indeed a negligible size. But adding 2 inches to something that is already 5 or 6 inches creates a highly notable increase in Volume being Displaced. (that is .. how much Dick they'd be putting into something.) 2 inches isn't much, but 7 or 8 inches frikkin well is.

A quick trip by The Visualiser - The Cock Comparison site shows that going from the site's default example size of 6x5 to 8x5.5 creates a penis of o-b-v-i-o-u-s-l-y larger size and an increase of 62% (!) greater volume.

If somehow oddly Zero added girth was ever gained, the resultant 8x5 is still radically longer in appearance and still a 36% greater amount of volume.

Just wanted to have the point be (no pun) graspable ... that it isn't 'just 2 inches' , it's 33% More inches, and brings a lot of authority to whatever you put it in.

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But in many ways it does help put things into a more motivational frame, ______________ <2" not too far

Xxxi;731872 said:

I just feel like that is more theory than real life effective technique though. I see soo many people talking about the same exercises already in use, and then find out they are still within a half inch of where they started girth measurement and it's been a year lol, so all the credibility goes away imo. It shouldn't take 6 months or a year to gain a half inch or an inch. We should be able to do that in a couple months. Heck, there are plenty accounts of priapisms yielding MASSIVE gains within days! The exercises we already have are great for now, but I think we should be researching and trying to find the key to deforming the tunica like a single priapism can to to create a megalophallus. We need to find the combination of time/pressure that makes the tunica structure "give up". That's what I'm searching for and I really feel like it is possible to find that formula if we work together as a community and really dig deep. There is a holy grail answer out there. The existence of megalophalluses prove that. We just have to find that answer. I'm so motivated lol

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The megalophallus studies are promising but one has to take care not to attempt the exact scenarios which led to it in the first place. For one, not all sufferers of priapism get MP. Many who wait too long often end up needing medical intervention to alleviate the priapism and/re coagulated blood from the penis.

Big Al;733398 said:

The megalophallus studies are promising but one has to take care not to attempt the exact scenarios which led to it in the first place. For one, not all sufferers of priapism get MP. Many who wait too long often end up needing medical intervention to alleviate the priapism and/re coagulated blood from the penis.

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No one has been able to mimic priapism yet, I think I came closest with 4 hours a night but I could not keep that up. If someone can find a controlled way to accomplish this as PE would completely change. The Brotherhood would no longer be needed and the entire world will be able to have a huge penis. Better think twice about what we wish for.

doublelongdaddy;733538 said:

No one has been able to mimic priapism yet, I think I came closest with 4 hours a night but I could not keep that up. If someone can find a controlled way to accomplish this as PE would completely change. The Brotherhood would no longer be needed and the entire world will be able to have a huge penis. Better think twice about what we wish for.

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Either that, or keep the exact method in the brotherhood and charge others a shit ton of money for the info on exactly how to do it lol