Product Review

So I've had the PF for about 2 weeks now. I only started wearing it every day in the last week, and a bit at night (but I get uncomfortable with the belt wrapped around my waste so I end up taking it off in 3-4 hours). Some things I've noticed:

Quality: most of the device seems plastic mold injected. The bell seems strong enough, but I worry about the clip surrounding the bell which appears to be a flimsy piece of plastic where a great deal of the force is translated through. The belt is comfortable enough to wear (assuming you use plastic side out). The condom and silicon sleeve seems to be the weak points. As shown below:
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Note, this is a picture of me holding the protective silicon sleeve one puts on the head. The top is torn only after about a weeks worth of on/off usage. Note that at this rate, the MTBF (mean time before failure) of this product is fairly low. I suspect that this is a constant battle for most people who intend to use this often.

Other issues: you put your penis through this foam-like belt loop then tie the other side around your waist until you connect the two ends like a belt. After about 2-3 hours, the penis skin can start to irritate, then sting. You need to swap sides at this point in order relieve pain.

Benefits: I don't have to worry about circulation issues. Ever! I can wear it all day at work (attempting to wear it at night without too much discomfort from the belt compressing). You can't notice it at all when clothed (with shorts or pants on). Also hopefully, its giving me a longer penis. 😁

Great review man and I can only agree. My Phallosan broke after 2 months use.
What broke? Exactly the flimsy piece of plastic - clip surrounding the bell.
The condom /silicone cap for glans) gets stretched very easily, doesnt work so well after a week and gets ripped easily.

Other thing are the sleeves and bells - Im not huge and I could only use the Large bell, Large sleeve.
So the S bell and M bells were useless for me, same with sleeves. Their delat says "Buy now and get 4 free sleeves in each package (1x S, 2x M, 1x L) - worth over 100 USD! "
- again, I could only use L.

For almost 400 dollars I would not recommend this to any PE brother here. As thats only first investment - you will have to invest over and over to the parts taht will break in matter of weeks/months.

I agree. The weaknesses inherent in this product are clear and most likely deliberate to continue bringing in revenue. It is a pitty that it is made with so little forethought. I would have used a stainless steel equivalent for the clip surrounding the bell at least so that one could also use it for hanging if they were so inclined.

MoreThanLuck;685621 said:

I agree. The weaknesses inherent in this product are clear and most likely deliberate to continue bringing in revenue. It is a pitty that it is made with so little forethought. I would have used a stainless steel equivalent for the clip surrounding the bell at least so that one could also use it for hanging if they were so inclined.

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That I think is the truth brother.
For this kind of money, it should be stainless steel and not flimsy piece of plastic.

You want a all-day all-night device ? I would recommend VLC , 50 dollars, it should last you years - I dont see any parts of it breaking any time soon.
I slept with it 8hrs straight the first night I used it. PF I had to take off in the middle of the night almost always. 400 dollars down the drain, but we learn from our mistakes.

So glad i didn't rush into buying one of these, it seemed so ingenious. But the price for that qaulity is shocking, should be a lot cheaper. I know it's a niche market but I can't imagine the profit to material cost ratio of some PE devices. The SG and VLC and Length Master all seem fair though BM maybe a little steep then again thats the perspective from a student. I tried tracking down a supplier of silicone sleeves but find any flexible ones. Other than that all you need is a pillar drill and piece of acrylic. I'm just not in a position to have either of those things at the moment. I bought a pump from uk company that makes them to order and is was about a quarter of the price of a PF.

MoreThanLuck;685621 said:

I agree. The weaknesses inherent in this product are clear and most likely deliberate to continue bringing in revenue. It is a pitty that it is made with so little forethought. I would have used a stainless steel equivalent for the clip surrounding the bell at least so that one could also use it for hanging if they were so inclined.

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Hi brother, just got a reply in the other thread that all your points about PF are nonsense bullshit because you just dont know how to use this product.
If you did know how to use it properly, you would think it was the best 400 dollars spent in your life.

How do you feel about it ?

BigBeardBig;685667 said:

Hi brother, just got a reply in the other thread that all your points about PF are nonsense bullshit because you just dont know how to use this product.
If you did know how to use it properly, you would think it was the best 400 dollars spent in your life.

How do you feel about it ?

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Agreed, there is a learning curve but once mastered the Phallosan plays a very big niche role in PE, it is the only device that, with intensity, that can be used during the sleeping hours. The lack of metal parts I believe were intended because of things like metal detectors, airports, etc. If anything does go wrong with your Phallosan you are covered by their warranty.

BigBeardBig;685667 said:

Hi brother, just got a reply in the other thread that all your points about PF are nonsense bullshit because you just dont know how to use this product.
If you did know how to use it properly, you would think it was the best 400 dollars spent in your life.

How do you feel about it ?

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Yes, I read those comments, but chose not to reply because that is the opinion of one individual that has limited information to work on. Before I even purchased this device, I watched all the videos available on it (how to install it properly, how to take care of it, ect). Even read through the supplied instructions in the box before I made my first attempt. I've successfully put it on and taken it off multiple times without any problems. The last time I took it off I discovered the gland cap tear and thought to myself something that I already knew from the beginning that (silicon over time, due to stretching, the vacuum pull, and exposure to various biological chemicals) would break down pretty quickly. As far as the clip goes; well that was just an observation. My clip hasn't broken yet, but because I have a deep understanding of the strength of materials, and physics. I made a claim to the very real possibility that the weakest links will always go first, that being the gland cap and the clip. Otherwise its a novel product.

I don't have my life savings all invested up into this. Spending 400 is nothing to me. I can make that up in less than a days worth of work. I also don't have a competing product. People can take this review any which way they want. I was just providing a review from an engineers perspective.

doublelongdaddy;685687 said:

Agreed, there is a learning curve but once mastered the Phallosan plays a very big niche role in PE, it is the only device that, with intensity, that can be used during the sleeping hours. The lack of metal parts I believe were intended because of things like metal detectors, airports, etc. If anything does go wrong with your Phallosan you are covered by their warranty.

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I hope they have a great warranty. I'll check more into that when I get a chance. Hopefully this will hold up.

doublelongdaddy;685687 said:

Agreed, there is a learning curve but once mastered the Phallosan plays a very big niche role in PE, it is the only device that, with intensity, that can be used during the sleeping hours. The lack of metal parts I believe were intended because of things like metal detectors, airports, etc. If anything does go wrong with your Phallosan you are covered by their warranty.

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For past 2 night I used the VLC with same intensity I used PF during night hours.
WIth VLC I didnt wake up once, both nights straight 8 hours.

From having personal experience with both PF and VLC, I can tell VLC is superior in everey aspect so far for 1/8 of the price of PF.

MoreThanLuck;685736 said:

I hope they have a great warranty. I'll check more into that when I get a chance. Hopefully this will hold up.

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Before I ordered the product I got reply to my email within 24 hours.
Now when I sent them email about my PF broking, I havent heard any reply to my email for a week already.

MoreThanLuck;685734 said:

Yes, I read those comments, but chose not to reply because that is the opinion of one individual that has limited information to work on. Before I even purchased this device, I watched all the videos available on it (how to install it properly, how to take care of it, ect). Even read through the supplied instructions in the box before I made my first attempt. I've successfully put it on and taken it off multiple times without any problems. The last time I took it off I discovered the gland cap tear and thought to myself something that I already knew from the beginning that (silicon over time, due to stretching, the vacuum pull, and exposure to various biological chemicals) would break down pretty quickly. As far as the clip goes; well that was just an observation. My clip hasn't broken yet, but because I have a deep understanding of the strength of materials, and physics. I made a claim to the very real possibility that the weakest links will always go first, that being the gland cap and the clip. Otherwise its a novel product.

I don't have my life savings all invested up into this. Spending 400 is nothing to me. I can make that up in less than a days worth of work. I also don't have a competing product. People can take this review any which way they want. I was just providing a review from an engineers perspective.

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Thank you for your honest review that will help alot of brothers. Competing product is VLC for 1/8 of the price. VLC is ridiculously simple device.
What you described is pretty much how it goes with time - first goes either the gland cap or you rip sleeves and after a few months probably the plastic clip. (mine took 2 months to break).

But there is also possibility mine was just somehow faulty product and your PF with all sleeves and everything will last you 10+ years

BigBeardBig;685751 said:

Thank you for your honest review that will help alot of brothers. Competing product is VLC for 1/8 of the price. VLC is ridiculously simple device.
What you described is pretty much how it goes with time - first goes either the gland cap or you rip sleeves and after a few months probably the plastic clip. (mine took 2 months to break).

But there is also possibility mine was just somehow faulty product and your PF with all sleeves and everything will last you 10+ years

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Think i'll order the VLC in a month or two

BigBeardBig;685751 said:

Thank you for your honest review that will help alot of brothers. Competing product is VLC for 1/8 of the price. VLC is ridiculously simple device.
What you described is pretty much how it goes with time - first goes either the gland cap or you rip sleeves and after a few months probably the plastic clip. (mine took 2 months to break).

But there is also possibility mine was just somehow faulty product and your PF with all sleeves and everything will last you 10+ years

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I have the VLC as well. From my experience, the compression cap put too much pressure on my foreskin. Whenever I took it off after extended use (8 hours at night), my foreskin would be fluid filled and sensative to the touch. I felt that the force was translated mostly through the skin and less of the shaft so I stopped using it in fear that I may be growing more skin down there then anything else. Now it sits in a drawer as part of the forgotten PE device wasteland. I want to make the PF work for me as I have been able to wear it for a long period of time without worrying about circulation issues, and there is an obvious pull on the shaft. The idea of the PF is solid, they just kinda failed on the construction part.

MoreThanLuck;685783 said:

I have the VLC as well. From my experience, the compression cap put too much pressure on my foreskin. Whenever I took it off after extended use (8 hours at night), my foreskin would be fluid filled and sensative to the touch. I felt that the force was translated mostly through the skin and less of the shaft so I stopped using it in fear that I may be growing more skin down there then anything else. Now it sits in a drawer as part of the forgotten PE device wasteland. I want to make the PF work for me as I have been able to wear it for a long period of time without worrying about circulation issues, and there is an obvious pull on the shaft. The idea of the PF is solid, they just kinda failed on the construction part.

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That is interesting. I usually sleep whole 8hrs with it, never had any fluid.
During the day I go as long as 6hrs without taking it off, same thing, zero fluid, pretty intense pull on whole shaft.

Overall I think its best device for healing and passive gains rather than for active gains.
For active gains = sizegenetics.

BigBeardBig;685749 said:

For past 2 night I used the VLC with same intensity I used PF during night hours.
WIth VLC I didnt wake up once, both nights straight 8 hours.

From having personal experience with both PF and VLC, I can tell VLC is superior in everey aspect so far for 1/8 of the price of PF.

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BBB, This is your experience, this is not indicative of every Brother here. I personally think The VLC does not give anywhere close to the intensity was the Phallosan. It is great as an attachment for the SizeGenetics but alone, in my opinion, it is more of a healing tool than a gainful tool.

MoreThanLuck;685734 said:

I don't have my life savings all invested up into this. Spending 400 is nothing to me. I can make that up in less than a days worth of work. I also don't have a competing product. People can take this review any which way they want. I was just providing a review from an engineers perspective.

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You are going to love it and do not allow other opinions to create your own. Phallosan would not be as big as they are if their product did not work. You have invested wisely in yourself and I want you to feel good about this.

BigBeardBig;685750 said:

Before I ordered the product I got reply to my email within 24 hours.
Now when I sent them email about my PF broking, I havent heard any reply to my email for a week already.

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If this happens, with any product it is vital you let us know so we can take care of it for you. If you have a faulty PF please send a private message to Lightning or me with your order number and date and we will be sure you have a replacement.

doublelongdaddy;685810 said:

BBB, This is your experience, this is not indicative of every Brother here. I personally think The VLC does not give anywhere close to the intensity was the Phallosan. It is great as an attachment for the SizeGenetics but alone, in my opinion, it is more of a healing tool than a gainful tool.

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Agreed and it is what I wrote. Its best for healing in elongated state and passive gains.
For active gains there is nothing better than Sizegenetics even better combined with LM.

BigBeardBig;685813 said:

Agreed and it is what I wrote. Its best for healing in elongated state and passive gains.
For active gains there is nothing better than Sizegenetics even better combined with LM.

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And remember that if you have the Phallosan and the SizeGenetics you can make the PhalloGenetics an ingenious modification brought to us by our Brother Jdcsd!