Jelqing/Bathmate combo for 3 months, then maintain/cement Bathmate alone...?

Hey guys,

I'd simply like to gain .5 inches girth and perhaps .5 length. Apparently this seems quite doable in 3 months on DLD's noob routine (right?) with a bathmate combo.

The thing is, I'm already 7" with a bit over 5" girth, and have read MANY issues of women having trouble taking in over 5.5-6" girth and the 7-8" length is about where things start getting a little painful for most women, and BJ's start having to involve teeth/aching jaws. Not to mention I have to hump really fast to ejaculate from their vagina alone.

Which brings me to the point of doing the noob routine, with bathmate included for girth, then dropping the jelqing altogether and simply pumping a bit daily (perhaps weaning off it altogether over a year.

Will the bathmate alone be able to cement gains? (considering it works girth AND length a little)

How might I go about using the bathmate to cement after dropping the jelqing/stretches. Thanks!

Ok, the deal with girth is you really can't go in dry without a good deal of foreplay or lube. Most girls aren't going to cry a river about extra foreplay or extra friction. Seriously not a big difference between 6 and 7 inches of girth. 6 vs 8 though, you're talking about fisting, so I get that. These stories are often exaggerated by people compensating for pencil dicks online. Best bet is really to have a girl in your life willing to bite the big one so to speak. It takes a lot to make a difference that big.

If you're hurting a girl with length it's because you want to. Plain and simple. Watch a �����, learn how to angle. Try different positions. It opens up a lot more doors than it closes to have that "little extra". And if you go far enough, you have the potential to hit the ever elusive A spot most girls aren't even aware of. And no, I'm not talking about the g spot. The A spot is the magical unicorn of sex, and without enough length, you will never have any sort of shot at it.

Just clarifying that there definitely are valid reasons to go beyond the normal goals. Sharing the know.

In regards to your question, that's going to depend on how well the bathmate works for you. One 15 minute session a day isn't enough for me to retain everything. 2 15 minute sessions actually gives me noticeable gains. The cementing period is a tricky area and you're going to have to measure frequently to see if you should be increasing or decreasing the work you need to be doing. The general idea is to gradually need less.

It wouldn't be a terrible idea to consider jelqing, stretching, and kegaling as a permanent thing. Much like working out, if you don't do the upkeep you will experience some loss. Be it through loss of eq, the ligaments retracting, or blood flow decrease or whatever. It can literally take years for the body to reach a stable equilibrium where it adjusts to your new "normal".

It's important to consider what you're willing to put up with, because many gains have been lost due to a lack of properly cementing. It really shouldn't take a lot, but it will take something.

I like most of your plan but would greatly advise you to work some jelqing into the BathMate work because of the fluid retention and other issues that can happen due to long pump sessions. Going for five minutes of BathMate pumping followed by 5 minutes of jelqing and then repeat 3 times. This will give you much better tissue expansion and much less fluid build up.