Hello, new to PE, so many questions!

Hello my name is Vash and I'm fairly new to penis enlargement (my bathmate arrived today, for example).

I'm having trouble deciding between sizegenetics and PeniMaster Pro for my extender choice.
SG is cheaper (thanks to that juicy discount DLD has managed to get for us, thanks man) and (claims to) extert a much greater force (2800 gr).
PMP is probably the most comfortable out there, but it's more expensive and also maximum strength is around 1150 gr I think.

So I was wondering which one to get and if you guys could enlighten me on how comfortable SG is or how important that increased force is (in PMP webpage they claim that the most important variable is time spent on the device, and not so much the force used). On a side note, I'm uncut (have read SG is easier to use for circumcised people).

Another question is about the cockring thing I read in the SRT post. It is usually not recommended to wear a cock ring for more than 30 min, but for SRT it is stated that you need about 1-2 hours.... is there a catch to that? For example 30 min being a full erection and the SRT 1-2 hours half an erection?

My main concern is maximizing girth, most info is about gaining length but I would be happy even with my current length (even if it's pretty average). Is there any specific way I can work on it more specifically (i'm aware bathmate is specialized in girth)?.

Finally, I have heard horror stories about people who basically did some mild jelquing and got ED. So being a total newb I'm afraid of damaging my beloved dick, how do I go on about minimizing risks?

Thanks for your time.

Vash;711883 said:

Hello my name is Vash and I'm fairly new to penis enlargement (my bathmate arrived today, for example).

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Vash;711883 said:

I'm having trouble deciding between sizegenetics and PeniMaster Pro for my extender choice.
SG is cheaper (thanks to that juicy discount DLD has managed to get for us, thanks man) and (claims to) extert a much greater force (2800 gr).
PMP is probably the most comfortable out there, but it's more expensive and also maximum strength is around 1150 gr I think.

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There are differences that may help you decide. The SizeGenetics and the PeniMasterPro both give more intensity than the Phallosan but the Phallosan can be worn for much longer periods of time. When the PeniMasterPro is set up correctly it can produce a similar outcome. The Phallosan is the only device we recommend for over night use which is a big advantage. There is also the SizeGenetics combined with the Phallosan creating the PhalloGenetics, another very powerful creation by the Brotherhood. Tough choice but know they are all good choices no matter which way you go.

Vash;711883 said:

So I was wondering which one to get and if you guys could enlighten me on how comfortable SG is or how important that increased force is (in PMP webpage they claim that the most important variable is time spent on the device, and not so much the force used). On a side note, I'm uncut (have read SG is easier to use for circumcised people).

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Comfort wise the SizeGenetics is least comfortable but this can be changed to most comfortable when combined with the VLC as the main attachment. This allows the SG to be put on and taken off in less than 30 seconds. It is an inexpensive way to make the SG so much more useable. Comfort on the SG and the PMP will remain in the 1-2 hour area before the device needs to be taken off and blood supply massaged back. The Phallosan you can go much longer without having to do this. Also, the Phallosan is most concealable. Many things to think about. The SG is the best deal going right now but Phallosan also is offering a $100 bonus on their extender. With any of these purchases you get a free membership to the MOS Members Site.

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Another question is about the cockring thing I read in the SRT post. It is usually not recommended to wear a cock ring for more than 30 min, but for SRT it is stated that you need about 1-2 hours.... is there a catch to that? For example 30 min being a full erection and the SRT 1-2 hours half an erection?

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You want to wear the cockring as long as possible. The idea is to keep the expansion from your session as long as humanly possible. This is what makes the temporary gains permeant.

Vash;711883 said:

My main concern is maximizing girth, most info is about gaining length but I would be happy even with my current length (even if it's pretty average). Is there any specific way I can work on it more specifically (i'm aware bathmate is specialized in girth)?.

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SRT's version of Girth Work is second to none. The routine is called the BathMate 5x5x3 workout. This utilizes the BathMate in the best way bringing incredible tissue expansion with very little water retention. This is explained in the girth section of SRT.

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Finally, I have heard horror stories about people who basically did some mild jelquing and got ED. So being a total newb I'm afraid of damaging my beloved dick, how do I go on about minimizing risks?

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They are just that, stories. If this statement was true the Brotherhood would have been doomed from the beginning. We practice the most effective but safe methods possible.

In addition to your length devices, you can get a length master and do bundled stretches after or before using your SG, PMP or Phallosan. This will accelerate your gains.

The newbie routine is a great place to start, you should also take a look through SRT. If you have the money to spend I definately suggest buying the penimaster pro I love mine! After you get used to manual stretching you can maybe try hanging. I've been hanging for a little while and love it!

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But don't jump right into the hanging, take some time to learnt the basics first.

Vash;711883 said:

Hello my name is Vash and I'm fairly new to penis enlargement (my bathmate arrived today, for example).

I'm having trouble deciding between sizegenetics and PeniMaster Pro for my extender choice.
SG is cheaper (thanks to that juicy discount DLD has managed to get for us, thanks man) and (claims to) extert a much greater force (2800 gr).
PMP is probably the most comfortable out there, but it's more expensive and also maximum strength is around 1150 gr I think.

So I was wondering which one to get and if you guys could enlighten me on how comfortable SG is or how important that increased force is (in PMP webpage they claim that the most important variable is time spent on the device, and not so much the force used). On a side note, I'm uncut (have read SG is easier to use for circumcised people).

Another question is about the cockring thing I read in the SRT post. It is usually not recommended to wear a cock ring for more than 30 min, but for SRT it is stated that you need about 1-2 hours.... is there a catch to that? For example 30 min being a full erection and the SRT 1-2 hours half an erection?

My main concern is maximizing girth, most info is about gaining length but I would be happy even with my current length (even if it's pretty average). Is there any specific way I can work on it more specifically (i'm aware bathmate is specialized in girth)?.

Finally, I have heard horror stories about people who basically did some mild jelquing and got ED. So being a total newb I'm afraid of damaging my beloved dick, how do I go on about minimizing risks?

Thanks for your time.

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I wouldn't worry about the increased forced.

When they talk about the force of the extender they are talking about the springs. You can always force bars in to go beyond the tension that the springs can provide.

In any case the extender is most effective when used in conjunction with another form of stretching, be it manuals, hanging etc all of which provide way more force than the extender. So in this scenario the extender would be used primarily for healing purposes aka "healing extended". Checkout the SRT thread for more on this. If you are concerned about comfort, though Ive never used it personally Ive only heard amazing things of the Phallosan Forte as DLD mentioned.

If your main concern is girth look into the Bathmate or other forms of girth work. Because though length and girth do compliment each other, the extender is primarily a length tool.

eugine8plz;713099 said:

The newbie routine is a great place to start, you should also take a look through SRT. If you have the money to spend I definately suggest buying the penimaster pro I love mine! After you get used to manual stretching you can maybe try hanging. I've been hanging for a little while and love it!

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But don't jump right into the hanging, take some time to learnt the basics first.

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Indeed, the best two places to start and end

doublelongdaddy;713177 said:

Indeed, the best two places to start and end

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Yup! I still do the newbie routine and am now doing SRT! I KNOW that it will bring me great gains in my future!

did we help you Vash?