Grocery store experience

Of all the stupid things in the world. I'm at the grocery store and I see a young woman(18-20 is my guess) with a t-shirt, on the front it said "George W is your president" and on the back "I support my president".

I wanted to go up and give her a one way ticket to Iraq and wish her good luck! Isn't it easy to support such violent action from your privliged white bread suburb, as long as you don't have to put your ass on the line.

it's fairly easy to do even if you are over there on the front lines. I have 4 really close friend who have all been on the front lines. and they all seem to agree even if they don't agree with the war 100% they signed on the dotted line, and agree to fight for our country and defend it here or abroad, and not just to get a scholarship for college and wages.

oh and I believe fonda plans another anti-war tour next your. and we all know how much she helped the POW's of vietnam.

I don't see anything wrong with her showing support for her country. Since you are so against it do you go around with a t-shirt that has anti American remarks on it?

Kal-el said:

Isn't it easy to support such violent action from your privliged white bread suburb, as long as you don't have to put your ass on the line.

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Like I said, supporting the troops is doing what this girl did. Buy yourself a shirt, flag or bumpersticker all of which made in a foreign country. Wear it and pretend like you give a fuck.

Not supporting the troops are the "Assholes" protesting the war who don't want to see fellow American soldiers being knockdown puppets for the government.

You think the US government would ever take criminals from a medium security prison and let them walk free if they fight in the Iraq war??

Your a good man Kal, get educated and prepare for the future.

Your a good man Kal, get educated and prepare for the future.

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Sounds cultish. Are you going to take him to a compound in Waco and serve kool-aid to all your followers?

The people protesting the war are idiots. I forgot the site, but a conservative guy randomly selected protesters and interviewed them (sort of like the gameshow, street smarts) and many were completely oblivious to simple knowledge. And when asked a plan of their own they couldnt muster up anything. It was pretty pathetic to see such a bunch of useless ignorant people making so much noise over something they dont intellectually understand. I find it comical their emotional foothold on the whole ordeal, when there grasp of the whole thing was completely offbase (not knowing the name of the ousted dictator, not knowing what W. standed for, not knowing what the UN stood for, etc) It was pretty gross to see their reasoning (all emotionally filled).

We need to stop killing innocent women, children, and the elderly. Other such mantras are exactly what depicts the whole rhetoric. It almost makes me feel bad everytime a protest gets out of hand and they get pelted with rubber bullets... almost.

By the way, I do have a 'George Bush is my homeboy,' tee-shirt I proudly wear in southern cali. I have seen some antibush etc shirts, but none of these people have said a thing when I have protruded my chest in their direction so they could read my shirt. Maybe it took them too long to read, or possibly they realize debating is frivolous when you subconsciously realize your whole side is void of any logic, yet you accept that your emotions keep you on the same path.

You guys should be the Hallmark of the Republican mantra.
I mean, after all, if you guys won't allow an opposing opinion to be heard, isn't that a very one-sided view of an individual evidently consumed with sickness and hatred? I welcome comments on my posts, but this seems very one-sided, and frankly kinda unfair.

I am not a protestor but I am definately not for the war. Like you said many protestors don't even really know what is going on. The average American doesn't either and probably couldn't find Iraq on a map.

My above comment was to clearify the fact that pretending to support the troops is good, actually supporting the troops is bad. Anything we (Americans) do to the Middle East is good, when they retaliate they are evil. We torture, rape and kill 1,000's of them.. (most innocent) that is good. They kill 50 of us, that is bad.

But I guess this is all in good nature because the "Terrorist" is out there and could be lurking in our basements so we must give up all our rights to the mighty Patriot Act and Homeland Security. You can only give up so many rights before you are a slave, and if they are willing to treat Muslims badly, what will they do to the Middle-Poor class citizens of America once we have no rights?

Ah fuck it. I can't get through to you anyways.. go back to tugging your cock.

I admire your passion Kal, but trying to get through to people on a Penis Enlargement forum is 5 steps backwards.

I think we need to kill more innocent women and children. In fact, I think we should build smart weapons to kill only innocent women and children. Keep in mind that we will only kill innocent women, any women that are deemed...not inncoent will be spared. Children are just out of luck, we will kill the children regardless of their moral standing. We will collect their bodies and make trinkets out of them. This will be done for oil.

LambdaCalc said:

I think we need to kill more innocent women and children. In fact, I think we should build smart weapons to kill only innocent women and children. Keep in mind that we will only kill innocent women, any women that are deemed...not inncoent will be spared. Children are just out of luck, we will kill the children regardless of their moral standing. We will collect their bodies and make trinkets out of them. This will be done for oil.

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Agreed.

"And advanced forms of biological warfare that can "target" specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

-Rebuilding America's Defenses (Sept. 2000)

Kal-el said:

Of all the stupid things in the world. I'm at the grocery store and I see a young woman(18-20 is my guess) with a t-shirt, on the front it said "George W is your president" and on the back "I support my president".

I wanted to go up and give her a one way ticket to Iraq and wish her good luck! Isn't it easy to support such violent action from your privliged white bread suburb, as long as you don't have to put your ass on the line.

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How the hell do you know she doesn't have a brother or sister over there? Way to jump to conclusions. :s

I actually just joined on sept 29th...I'll keep my opinions to myself. So far ppl seem to be backing my decision up so I guess its all good :cool:

As much as I hate to dredge up the past, I ask you Republicans this: How would you have felt if you saw a teenager in a store 7 or 8 years ago wearing a T-shirt that said "Bill Clinton is your President. I support my President."?

that's a fairly fine line there bro. most republicans are conservative-religious folks (christians, jewish, catholic, etc...) and I bet you would find that most would agree they didn't care for clinton's lack of morals, or at least skewed morals but at the same time would say God is in control of everything and has a purpose for who he puts in authority over us. so in that case they wouldn't have a problem with that. you don't have to agree with someone 100% to support them.

now if the shirt said "Bill Clinton is your President. and getting oral sex is in no way having "relations". support your president" then they probably would have issues with that.

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As much as I hate to dredge up the past, I ask you Republicans this: How would you have felt if you saw a teenager in a store 7 or 8 years ago wearing a T-shirt that said "Bill Clinton is your President. I support my President."?

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I think its time we start treating the Democrats and Republicans as one. If the 2004 elections didn't tell you that, well then I don't know what will.

As a Republican, George Bush is pushing more of a Liberal agenda than Clinton did. But I'm sure they are all singing from the same song sheet. That goes for Dems, Republicans and Prime Ministers.

Originally posted by derringer57
The people protesting the war are idiots. I forgot the site, but a conservative guy randomly selected protesters and interviewed them (sort of like the gameshow, street smarts) and many were completely oblivious to simple knowledge. And when asked a plan of their own they couldnt muster up anything. It was pretty pathetic to see such a bunch of useless ignorant people making so much noise over something they dont intellectually understand. I find it comical their emotional foothold on the whole ordeal, when there grasp of the whole thing was completely offbase (not knowing the name of the ousted dictator, not knowing what W. standed for, not knowing what the UN stood for, etc) It was pretty gross to see their reasoning (all emotionally filled).

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Don't tell me what I can and cannot protest. You have a right to your opinion, but you're commanding tone implies you know oh-so-much more than the rest of us about war, death, and the struggle for a free and open government.

None of us know what an open government is. We've lived for three generations under secretive, power hungry richie fucks. Who knows what they're doing? I sure as hell don't. And when people don't know what it is you're doing, and it affects their lives, they ARE going to assume the worst.

It goes very much to our leader's credibility, the reasons why we went to Iraq. I hear a lot of people, when the blame starts coming down, especially the guilty, say "Oh, no sense blaming anyone, we're in the situation now"

Yeah, and people, real fucking people, not numbers on some goddamned chart you dug up off the internet but real, flesh-and-blood people, people we love, people we cherished, people we fucking grew up with, are dead.

But you and your fellow repubs choose not to understand death, or even to feel it's effects. That's fine, you do that, but don't proselytize your death cult to me, I simply don't want to hear it.

That seems to be the main problem with republicans. They fail to put themselves in anyone else's shoes.

Originally posted by against odds21 How the hell do you know she doesn't have a brother or sister over there? Way to jump to conclusions.

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My friend's cousin and nephew never complained about going off to war. In fact, they and their families were quite proud. Why is that so often the argument from your side - that if they didn't want to risk their lives, they shouldn't have joined the military? They weren't idiots - they fully understood what they were getting themselves into. One was a Marine, for Chrissake. My *point* was that it's the loved ones left behind who suffer for the rest of their lives. And the maimed soldiers. And the irreversibly psychologically damaged ones. I'd be willing to bet none of them complained about having to go over there in the first place. The fact is, they're dead. Or maimed. Or damaged. It's what comes after that's the hardest.

We shouldn't even be over there. Iraq is no threat to us at all. The whole reason we are over there is because the leaders in our country want control of there oil fields. And plus alot of the leaders in our country wanted to go over there and control iraq to help bring about a NEW WORLD ORDER. Saddam didn't have the equipment to lunch any kind of biological weapons from there to here. Hell he didn't have the equipment to lunch biological weapons in Pakistan which is a neighboring country. I'm going to give you all some advise believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see.

I have to interject this: It may seem (it pretty much is) like Bush's war,but we've got a system of checks and balances with the press and congress to help prevent that. The problem is the checks and balances aren't working.

No, we're too busy talking about wether the war is right or wrong, whether or not we can hang commandments in a court room, whether or not motorcyclists can wear helmets. None of that matters when the very government is off it's frikin rocker, doing what it wants, earning a King's ransom for pay. The real problem here is the government.

Originally posted by loco
that's a fairly fine line there bro. most republicans are conservative-religious folks (christians, jewish, catholic, etc...) and I bet you would find that most would agree they didn't care for clinton's lack of morals, or at least skewed morals but at the same time would say God is in control of everything and has a purpose for who he puts in authority over us. so in that case they wouldn't have a problem with that. you don't have to agree with someone 100% to support them.

now if the shirt said "Bill Clinton is your President. and getting oral sex is in no way having "relations". support your president" then they probably would have issues with that.

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Good point loco, maybe I should have phrased it like this, "Let me ask you Clinton bashers for your opinion." Thank you for reminding me why I didn't choose the Republican side, as much as I hate stereotypes, as they lead to prejudice, Republicans seem to go by this slogan, "If it dosen't benefit me, I don't care."