Attention: I Have Been Using Other Guy's Photos For A Very Long Time (Apology)

huge-girth;652586 said:

For more than 13 years, there haven't been a time when I stayed away from masturbation for one month. I'm beginning to think this might have something to do with setback. There are even times when I used to dream and see myself in places in my past that I never ever want to be. Seems this masturbation is evil.

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Dude, I have never refrained and my gains were insane. Don't make a problem where there is no problem.

doublelongdaddy;652720 said:

Dude, I have never refrained and my gains were insane. Don't make a problem where there is no problem.

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Alright.

@ DLD: As for gains, I have seen visual gains (in girth for sure), and the biggest challenge in gauging the numbers is that I have decided that the only time I am willing to become erect, for the moment, is when jelqing, since I am practicing transmutation (no ejaculation, at all) and I have no interest in even thinking about any movement patterns which resemble the way that I use to masturbate, since they trigger all kinds of associations, with �naked people movies�, stealing other guy's pictures and getting off to the reactions, and so on, and I would rather move past that, and issue new associations, with much healthier sexuality.

Basically, I am re-programming myself, mentally, emotionally, and physically, when it comes my sexuality and the physiological triggers around this area of my life, and so my training program is done with that in mind. Thus, I do not really take many erect measurements at the moment, except when jelqing, and the "best" girth measurement that I took was post-jelq, in a relatively flaccid state, and looks like it was on the order of +.3'' (in under a month of jelqing) compared to what I estimated my erect girth to be before.

If anything, it looks like I may have over-estimated my starting erect girth, and my "best" post-jelq measurement may even be closer to +.4'' or +.5'', I'm not sure.

Regardless, at this point, I am taking an incrementally progressive approach (with coaching from BigAl), and am focused on cementing solid training habits, and becoming the most efficient with P.E., given what I am (and am not) willing to do.

I would much rather gain through linear progression on my program, while cementing solid habits, than try to rush in to some of the more intense, and time-consuming routines.

acromegaly;647769 said:

It sounds like you have isolated yourself physically and emotionally and you have forgotten basic human interactions

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That's a great point, and it's exactly what happened, thank you.

As for the rest of your letter, I appreciate you giving your opinion.

Sexual enhancement (size, stamina, and so on) is a small part of the time that I spend on self-development, and it is one of many developing habits which represent a continually growing sense of entitlement to create a life of my own design -- be that spiritual, emotional, physical, social, or sexual.

I do my training, I keep a log, I send any questions on the session to an expert (BigAl, in this case), and then I move on with my day.

Upon reading the way that you phrased the rest of your response, and looking at how often you're using the forums, combined with some of the other things that you have said, I hope you realize that you don't have to suffer, and you start to face the things which are bothering you.


Best of luck,

Adam

AF3;652798 said:

@ DLD: As for gains, I have seen visual gains (in girth for sure), and the biggest challenge in gauging the numbers is that I have decided that the only time I am willing to become erect, for the moment, is when jelqing, since I am practicing transmutation (no ejaculation, at all) and I have no interest in even thinking about any movement patterns which resemble the way that I use to masturbate, since they trigger all kinds of associations, with �naked people movies�, stealing other guy's pictures and getting off to the reactions, and so on, and I would rather move past that, and issue new associations, with much healthier sexuality.

Basically, I am re-programming myself, mentally, emotionally, and physically, when it comes my sexuality and the physiological triggers around this area of my life, and so my training program is done with that in mind. Thus, I do not really take many erect measurements at the moment, except when jelqing, and the "best" girth measurement that I took was post-jelq, in a relatively flaccid state, and looks like it was on the order of +.3'' (in under a month of jelqing) compared to what I estimated my erect girth to be before.

If anything, it looks like I may have over-estimated my starting erect girth, and my "best" post-jelq measurement may even be closer to +.4'' or +.5'', I'm not sure.

Regardless, at this point, I am taking an incrementally progressive approach (with coaching from BigAl), and am focused on cementing solid training habits, and becoming the most efficient with P.E., given what I am (and am not) willing to do.

I would much rather gain through linear progression on my program, while cementing solid habits, than try to rush in to some of the more intense, and time-consuming routines.

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What is the cost of the personal coaching? Is it done over the phone?

AF3;652844 said:

That's a great point, and it's exactly what happened, thank you.

As for the rest of your letter, I appreciate you giving your opinion.

Sexual enhancement (size, stamina, and so on) is a small part of the time that I spend on self-development, and it is one of many developing habits which represent a continually growing sense of entitlement to create a life of my own design -- be that spiritual, emotional, physical, social, or sexual.

I do my training, I keep a log, I send any questions on the session to an expert (BigAl, in this case), and then I move on with my day.

Upon reading the way that you phrased the rest of your response, and looking at how often you're using the forums, combined with some of the other things that you have said, I hope you realize that you don't have to suffer, and you start to face the things which are bothering you.


Best of luck,

Adam

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Bro I post here too much, but the stuff I said comes from the heart. I think everybody deserves to be happy and in a relationship and have sex regularly. If you want that stuff you have to practice relationships skills I mean it's not always easy and sex takes practice too. I absolutely did not mean to offend you and I hope you have a good life.

He schooled you man.

acromegaly;652877 said:

Bro I post here too much, but the stuff I said comes from the heart. I think everybody deserves to be happy and in a relationship and have sex regularly. If you want that stuff you have to practice relationships skills I mean it's not always easy and sex takes practice too. I absolutely did not mean to offend you and I hope you have a good life.

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@DLD: Yes, he has a premium coaching program with a client portal, weekly Skype/phone consultations (if desired), and so on. It has helped tremendously, and he is obviously dedicated to his clients, no question about that. (As a side-note, he also talks very highly of you, and I think it would be great for you to do a personal coaching program, as well.)


@acromegaly: No problem, I appreciate your support. I think a lot of the time, the things that we feel the need to help others the most with is often what we need the most help with, and that the only way to deal with them is to face them straight on, as much as it hurts. I know that when I get involved in internet forums, and especially when I start trying to give advice on internet forums, it's usually from a place of pain, and I am running from something in an attempt to save my-self by feeling like I helped another person by telling them what to do, rather than face my own fears.

It's never worked out for me to do that, perhaps you are different. Regardless, I appreciate that you care, no matter where it comes from, and best of luck.

-Adam

templnite;652878 said:

He schooled you man.

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I don't want any ego-battles with anybody, or anything like that.

I think the reality is that there are a lot of men who have a tremendous amount of pain around this issue, and it is a situation in which we can support one another, to great effect.

I think arguments or competition among people who are hurting is very counter-productive, and I do not want to participate in such a thing, because I don't believe that anybody is better off for it, in the long-run.

Also, I think acromegaly is right, in that it's very important to think quite hard about why you would want to do something like sexual enhancement, and the only acceptable answer is that you understand that no matter how "big" you make your-self, it is the process that you must enjoy, and the internal changes being a person of action will bring, not the external changes.

In fact, after writing the original letters, and starting down a new road, I have realized that low self-esteem is not EVER changed by creating different external circumstances, but by deciding to design your life, and being involved in the action, with each external development being consciously paired w/ internal enhancement, as well.

When I look at a lot of the ideas about competition, and trying to be "bigger" than another person, rather than asking how great you can be, especially in areas of masculinity, I realize that engaging in these has just been my own lack of self-worth playing itself out, and that the most effective way to live is to view your life as a celebration of the very act of being alive, and not to chase your tail, but to cultivate and share your-self with the world, as scary as that may be.

I believe that other people have similar pain, and I have begun to see it in a lot of areas, now that I have started to admit (to my-self, and to others) how much I have been hurting.


Good luck,

Adam

Of course I knew that, I gave you the win>

AF3,what routine do you have at the moment?This coaching thing sounds interesting.

AF3;652881 said:

@acromegaly: No problem, I appreciate your support. I think a lot of the time, the things that we feel the need to help others the most with is often what we need the most help with, and that the only way to deal with them is to face them straight on, as much as it hurts. I know that when I get involved in internet forums, and especially when I start trying to give advice on internet forums, it's usually from a place of pain, and I am running from something in an attempt to save my-self by feeling like I helped another person by telling them what to do, rather than face my own fears.

It's never worked out for me to do that, perhaps you are different. Regardless, I appreciate that you care, no matter where it comes from, and best of luck.

-Adam

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Bro I am married with kids your situation is night and day to mine. I have never had a penis obsession and I never will, but I can relate to your insecurities and the best way to deal with it is just man up and try dating. You can deflect all you want but my post is good advice and I will give you this PE knowledge for free you don't even need my delux coaching program

acromegaly;652932 said:

Bro I am married with kids your situation is night and day to mine. I have never had a penis obsession and I never will, but I can relate to your insecurities and the best way to deal with it is just man up and try dating. You can deflect all you want but my post is good advice and I will give you this PE knowledge for free you don't even need my delux coaching program

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Coaching program is for real-time troubleshooting, and working with a verified expert, instead of wasting time.

-- If you have verified results of both your own personal development, and coaching others, on the level that I am looking for, then I would be happy to listen.

As for the rest, I think you're absolutely right that I was deflecting, and I think your advice is pretty good, on the surface.

Anyways, back to action, and focus.

Good luck,

Adam

Did acro just get dissed?

templnite;653057 said:

Did acro just get dissed?

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No, that was meant as a compliment, and I sent him a (private) message saying that I thought I had mis-judged him, and I appreciated his advice, and so on.

Ok thanks

Let's shut the thread down, and keep it as more of a journal, with some periodic updates, perhaps.

K

Actually, we could keep it open, it's just unlikely that I'll check the responses for quite awhile, if at all, with the exception of Mike (DLD).

I may provide some updates, though, just for the sake of accountability, I suppose.

Anyways, time to bear down (again), good luck.

- Adam

AF3;652881 said:

@DLD: Yes, he has a premium coaching program with a client portal, weekly Skype/phone consultations (if desired), and so on. It has helped tremendously, and he is obviously dedicated to his clients, no question about that. (As a side-note, he also talks very highly of you, and I think it would be great for you to do a personal coaching program, as well.)

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Thanks Adam and you are right, this is something I would like to do, what does he charge?