Fatigue = GAINS (?)

Hey everyone
as some of you know I've been hanging for around 20 days now. I've been trying to get 4 sets of 20 mins a day (with no rest days so far). My ligs are EXTREMELY fatigued. I'm hanging at 10 lbs, even though for a couple of days I upped it to 13 lbs, but i can tell its too heavy, so I'm back to 10 lbs.

(for those are are getting alarmed at 10 lbs for a starter hanger, I have hung before w a 'sock hanger' (homemade obviously) at 8 lbs, without any gains (wasnt consistent with it, it hurt too much) )


Anyhow, My LOT is just above 9, and according to the 'LOT theory' i should be hitting BTC to target the ligs. so my first gains will be from there (hopefully).

I definately feel the fatigue, specially if i pull down on it manually or at a 3 o'clock. My question is, should I rest and let the fatigued ligs HEAL? or do i gain in this fatigue stage?

as in , are ligs like muscles? work them and let them heal bigger? or should I ride this fatigue (as i've seen some guys call it) for as long as I can?

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you want to be fatigued but not in pain. Your lucky bro my lot is like 6-7

BiggerThanBefor said:

you want to be fatigued but not in pain. Your lucky bro my lot is like 6-7

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well who knows if the LOT theory is correct. It IS just a theory so far. One that makes sense but nevertheless a theory.


my question, however, is that would I gain in the fatigued state? or do I gain while healing (taking time off from a long while of hanging?). I understand pain's not good. I'm just not sure when the ligaments get larger. Under stress? or healing after being under stress.

Am i making any sense?? <

if I were you
I would invest in an ADS or ADH so you can hang then put that on to heal in extended state so you can walk around too.

talk to german stallion he's got an awesome idea going for a all day hanger and it only cost $3.50 to make and is over a pound.

BiggerThanBefor said:

talk to german stallion he's got an awesome idea going for a all day hanger and it only cost $3.50 to make and is over a pound.

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I do have a FastSize Extender. The noose type attatcHydromaxent is purely garbage, so i've also bought the modified auto extender head. but even so its sooo unpractical and hard to use. =(

i'm talking an all day hanger or stretcher. SOmething you can wear under your pants and walk around with and no one will have any idea. I can giv eyou a few links if your interested?

BiggerThanBefor said:

i'm talking an all day hanger or stretcher. SOmething you can wear under your pants and walk around with and no one will have any idea. I can giv eyou a few links if your interested?

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ya man sure
the Extenders claim that too, and even tho they're not that noticeable they're not comfortable at all.

And as far as the circle device goes, its wayy too expensive.
But show me what you got.

any1?

VK,

>as some of you know I've been hanging for around 20 days now. I've been trying to get 4 sets of 20 mins a day (with no rest days so far). My ligs are EXTREMELY fatigued. I'm hanging at 10 lbs, even though for a couple of days I upped it to 13 lbs, but i can tell its too heavy, so I'm back to 10 lbs.<

If you are extremely faigued, then first try lowering the weight. It appears your current Max weight is ten lbs. If you have difficulty at 5 lbs, then stop for the day.

>I definately feel the fatigue, specially if i pull down on it manually or at a 3 o'clock. My question is, should I rest and let the fatigued ligs HEAL? or do i gain in this fatigue stage?<

When the ligs heal, they will become stronger. You want to ride the fatigue as much as possible. Stay in the fatigued state. If you can not handle a weight, then reduce the weight until you can.

However, pain is bad. If you ever reach the point where something hurts, then stop. Also, if you are at less then half of your Max weight, and it is too much, then you may be close to injury. Stop for the day.

The only time I would recommend that you take off is if, during the first set, at a very light weight, the fatigue is too much. Then, you might take off a day, and try the next day.

Please realize this: If you only hang for one session a day, you get almost 23 hours of rest per day. During that time, the ligs will begin to heal.

>as in , are ligs like muscles? work them and let them heal bigger? or should I ride this fatigue (as i've seen some guys call it) for as long as I can?<

Ligs are nothing like muscles. No relation whatsoever, except they are both carbon based (organic). You do NOT want the ligs to be bigger. You want them to stretch. Ligs in the fatigued state are weaker. Keep them that way as much as possible.

Penis Enlargement gains are made through the deformation, stretching of collagenous materials.

Bigger

Bib said:

VK,

>as some of you know I've been hanging for around 20 days now. I've been trying to get 4 sets of 20 mins a day (with no rest days so far). My ligs are EXTREMELY fatigued. I'm hanging at 10 lbs, even though for a couple of days I upped it to 13 lbs, but i can tell its too heavy, so I'm back to 10 lbs.<

If you are extremely faigued, then first try lowering the weight. It appears your current Max weight is ten lbs. If you have difficulty at 5 lbs, then stop for the day.

>I definately feel the fatigue, specially if i pull down on it manually or at a 3 o'clock. My question is, should I rest and let the fatigued ligs HEAL? or do i gain in this fatigue stage?<

When the ligs heal, they will become stronger. You want to ride the fatigue as much as possible. Stay in the fatigued state. If you can not handle a weight, then reduce the weight until you can.

However, pain is bad. If you ever reach the point where something hurts, then stop. Also, if you are at less then half of your Max weight, and it is too much, then you may be close to injury. Stop for the day.

The only time I would recommend that you take off is if, during the first set, at a very light weight, the fatigue is too much. Then, you might take off a day, and try the next day.

Please realize this: If you only hang for one session a day, you get almost 23 hours of rest per day. During that time, the ligs will begin to heal.

>as in , are ligs like muscles? work them and let them heal bigger? or should I ride this fatigue (as i've seen some guys call it) for as long as I can?<

Ligs are nothing like muscles. No relation whatsoever, except they are both carbon based (organic). You do NOT want the ligs to be bigger. You want them to stretch. Ligs in the fatigued state are weaker. Keep them that way as much as possible.

Penis Enlargement gains are made through the deformation, stretching of collagenous materials.

Bigger

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BIB Thanks for the response.

I've upped the wieght to 12.5 lbs, and I still am able to do 4 sets of 20 mins at BTC. Is this indication that I should up the weight?

Also, when i wrap semi tight, the hanger attatcHydromaxent point hurts like hell. I realized that it is only when I wrap loosely that it does not hurt. (i wrap with a cloth 3 x 8, followed by a 2 x 15 theraband wrap).



another question is that, when the hanger is at the front of my penis, it tends to hurt quite a bit under the head, so I attatch it almost near the base. (one or two inches from the base). Is this correct? or should I somehow adapt to attatch it more near the front? I would understand that the closer to the head the hanger is, the more stress that is applied on the tunica.


At the moment my LOT is slightly above 9.5. I have been hanging with only one day of rest for 28 days straight, with no gains. Is this normal? (if anything after an intense hanging day, my flacid stretched penis is SHORTER than before, as if it retracts ? ) Is this normal? and if so what is it indicative of: a good work out, or a non effective workout?

when I 'feel with my fingers' as you mentioned in another post, I feel a substaintial amount of inner penis that continues until almost my anus. I think, i have a very high exist point as you would call it. How many inches of gains would you suppose I could gain from lig stretch and in what time line?

I know results vary form person to person, but i guess i just want a guestimate, to chart my progress.

"At the moment my LOT is slightly above 9.5. I have been hanging with only one day of rest for 28 days straight, with no gains. Is this normal? (if anything after an intense hanging day, my flacid stretched penis is SHORTER than before, as if it retracts ) Is this normal?"

i dont hang, and im not pretending to know what im talking about, but im sure ive read that if your penis is shorter afterwards then its too much weight.

EVO said:

"At the moment my LOT is slightly above 9.5. I have been hanging with only one day of rest for 28 days straight, with no gains. Is this normal? (if anything after an intense hanging day, my flacid stretched penis is SHORTER than before, as if it retracts ) Is this normal?"

i dont hang, and im not pretending to know what im talking about, but im sure ive read that if your penis is shorter afterwards then its too much weight.

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me is confused ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

:D that top bit is a quote from you.....

EVO said:

:D that top bit is a quote from you.....

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oh I'm not THAT dumb i get that. It's just that I dont understand. if I'm getting retraction, you're saying it means the weight is too much, but I'm not getting that fatigued by the end of the first 2 sets of hanging this weight. I can often hang 4 sets of the same weight with no discomfort.

do you ride the fatigue? maybe an ads would do you...
in response to your question tho ill let a more experienced hanger answer it

EVO said:

do you ride the fatigue? maybe an ads would do you...
in response to your question tho ill let a more experienced hanger answer it

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I have a fastsize extender and its by no means an ALL DAY stretcher. its pretty tough to have it on ESPenis EnlargementCIALLY if it is worn during work/school/etc.

VK,

>I've upped the wieght to 12.5 lbs, and I still am able to do 4 sets of 20 mins at BTC. Is this indication that I should up the weight?<

I guess I am out of the timeline. Are you not currently having too much fatigue?

>Also, when i wrap semi tight, the hanger attatcHydromaxent point hurts like hell. I realized that it is only when I wrap loosely that it does not hurt. (i wrap with a cloth 3 x 8, followed by a 2 x 15 theraband wrap). <

Every single guy is different. What works for you is bad for someone else, and vice versa. However, I always recommend wrapping loose.

>another question is that, when the hanger is at the front of my penis, it tends to hurt quite a bit under the head, so I attatch it almost near the base. (one or two inches from the base). Is this correct? or should I somehow adapt to attatch it more near the front? I would understand that the closer to the head the hanger is, the more stress that is applied on the tunica.<

I would suggest that you try different things. There are times where attaching closer to the head could feel great, or terrible, depending on another variable, such as wrap. Also, the feeling under the head could be a result of your girth work. This is another good reason to only do one thing at a time, either length or girth. I recommend reaching your length goals first, then work on girth.

For stretching skin, placing the hanger closer to the base works best. And you are correct, for placing dedicated stress on the tunica and ligs, placing to hanger closer to the head is best. However, you should always start the wrap at least one inch behind the coronal ridge. Then attach the hanger at least 1/4 inch behind the leading edge of the wrap.

Depending on your fatigue situation, try other wrap schemes, and hanger adjustments, and try to attach closer to the head. You will soon find something that works for you.

>At the moment my LOT is slightly above 9.5. I have been hanging with only one day of rest for 28 days straight, with no gains. Is this normal?<

It is not abnormal.

>(if anything after an intense hanging day, my flacid stretched penis is SHORTER than before, as if it retracts ) Is this normal? and if so what is it indicative of: a good work out, or a non effective workout?<

It is not abnormal. As long as during your next hanging session, you are able to stretch out the shaft, re-breaking the previous micro tears, and then proceeding to cause new micro tears, you are making progress. Penis Enlargement gains are like the stock market. They go up and down, but the general trend is up.

Now, another thing you will find is this: Penis Enlargement causes a refractory response in the penis, much like sex. IOW, it takes a while to recover from an orgasm, in order to get another erection. Same with Penis Enlargement.

At some point, you will take a break, either planned, or a break you cannot avoid. You may find during this break that you have gained. The break did not cause the gain. The gain was simply expressed because the refractory response was removed by the break.

>when I 'feel with my fingers' as you mentioned in another post, I feel a substaintial amount of inner penis that continues until almost my anus. I think, i have a very high exist point as you would call it. How many inches of gains would you suppose I could gain from lig stretch and in what time line?<

I have no idea. Just take a ruler, and measure the distance between your current exit point, and the spot where you think you can lower your exit point to.

Bigger