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I have read alot of threads about the importance of size and the cruelty of women. I decided to see what the general consensus(sp?) is.

LifeScript Healthy living for women http://www.lifescript.com/Life/Sex/Nookie/Does_Size_Really_Matter.aspx
Men obsess about their bodies just like women. Too fat, too tall, too small… Does size really matter when it comes to our sexual pleasure? Read on to find out. Plus, how much do you know about his equipment? Take our quiz…
When it comes to size and aesthetics, it’s a rare guy who wants an honest assessment of his anatomy. But every so often, women hear this question: “What do you think of my penis?”

That’s sure to jolt you out of a post-coital daze. Should you lie? Tell the truth? But what’s so surprising about this question is the naked vulnerability it reveals – sort of the male equivalent of Does this make me look fat?

I once got “the question” when I was seeing a man who was smaller than I preferred. But I was enormously attracted to him and the electricity we generated could have lit up Times Square
In that unguarded moment, I think I liked him even more for giving me a peek at his anxieties. And so I said, quite honestly, “Absolutely. It’s amazing.”
When it comes to sexual insecurity, women haven’t cornered the market. For all the reassurances from urologists, sex therapists and former girlfriends that it’s not the size of the boat but how they captain it that matters, guys still wonder: Does size matter? More important: Do I measure up?

Yes, size matters. But not the way men might think it does.
Too Big
“We’ve put such inflated importance on size, and as a result, women’s eyes are bigger than their vaginas,” says Anne Semans, marketing director for the sex toy boutique chain Babeland (Babeland.com).
Semans knows women’s size preferences, at least when it comes to dildos. Babeland’s most popular model measures six inches long and 1¼ inches around, though women have sought longer and fatter.
“The cultural perception is that bigger is going to feel better,” Semans says. But, she adds, that’s not always the case.

In fact, women who overreach often end up returning dildos (unopened, of course). “Too big and you’re going to need a lot of lube, there’s going to be a lot more friction and it might chafe,” Semans says. “Even your orgasmic contractions may be less powerful.”

Logically, the same holds true for penises of the non-silicone variety. It doesn’t matter how many Long Dong Silvers show up in ���� flicks. Many women may initially enjoy the sight of a big guy, but their next reaction is often Ouch! That poor girl!

My friend Shari, 38, agrees. She’s dated guys who were too long and too thick. “If it’s too big, it can be overwhelming and painful,” she says. “You have to really be ready to deal with something that large.”
And here’s something else guys don’t take into account when wishing for more inches: A woman may be reluctant to vault that big pole again.
“You can be sore the next day and not so eager to have intercourse,” Shari says. “There were definitely times I said, ‘Don’t poke me with that thing.’”

My friend Alice, 31, understands that all too well. She confesses she was so saddle-sore after a romp with a bigger-than-usual guy that the next day she made an emergency appointment with her gynecologist. And although they dated for three months, she refused to get back on that bronco again.

“He wanted to, but I diverted him with oral sex or made excuses to avoid having sex with him,” she says.

Anecdotes aside, accommodating an extra-large penis can result in vaginal injury. Extra-long members can bump against a woman’s cervix during intercourse, causing discomfort or pain.
With larger girth, tearing could occur and cause bleeding. Making sex pleasurable with a well-hung honey comes down to three things: lubricant, patience and position experimentation.


But it’s unfair to claim that a “good fit” is up to the man. Have a couple of children the old-fashioned way, and you may not be as tight down there as you once were. That can make a slender penis feel too small.

Fortunately, toys can help. Cock rings and penis pumps can (temporarily) add girth for guys with more modest holdings.
Women can do their part by using Kegel exercises to tighten the vaginal walls, leading to a snugger fit.
“That gives you more control over your vaginal muscles so that during intercourse, you’re contracting more and harder, so that feels good for both of you,” Semans says.
Also, before writing a guy off for not measuring up, consider his ability to compensate for his shortcomings. Can he please you in other ways? Being attentive to your needs is the most important quality in a good lover, regardless of his penis size.
When it comes down to it, it’s not about actual inches, how big he is or how tight you are, but what you both do with the equipment you’ve got and how it all feels when you’re together.
Says Shari: “My husband isn’t the biggest I’ve ever been with or the smallest. But we fit together very well. It’s just right.”


Penis Size: What Women ThinkHow Big is Yours?
Penis size doesn't matter much to her. So stop worrying and start pleasuring herSmall penis syndrome.
Sounds horrifying, right?
If you're anxiously reading this article, you may already have it.

Oh, relax. It's not a johnson-shrinking virus. "Small penis syndrome" is a psychological condition in which a man thinks his manhood is too small, even though he's really on par with the rest of mankind.

Does size matter? (To her, that is.)

That age-old question was addressed by British researchers in a scholarly article this week in BJU International.

Their findings, in a nutshell (or two): 63 percent of men complained of having inferior hardware -- but none of them was smaller than normal! (Normal is between 5.5 and 6.2 inches long when erect and 4.7 to 5.1 inches around -- and don't even think about measuring at your desk.)

To make those fears all the more pointless, 85 percent of women are happy with their partner's size.

Okay, British researchers are one thing. But what do real women think?

That's where Men's Health comes in. We asked two of our favorite women: Nicole Beland, our "Girl Next Door," and Debby Herbenick, Ph.D., our "Bedroom Confidential" columnist.
"Yes, we care about the size of a man's penis," Nicole says. "But when it comes to sexual satisfaction, it's pretty far down on our list of priorities."
And having a big wood certainly doesn't guarantee her orgasm, which is more important than penis size, Debby says. "Women find it difficult to orgasm, and oral sex and hand stimulation are often more effective, as are vibrators," she says. "It's not personal -- it's just how some women's bodies work."
Nicole notes that small penis syndrome can work in a woman's favor.
"There's nothing worse than a guy who thinks he has a HUGE penis and is therefore God's gift to the ladies," she says. "That kind of guy thinks that getting an erection is pretty much all the effort he has to put into sex. The chances that the women he sleeps with are having orgasms? Slim to none."
Ian Kerner, Ph.D., sexologist and author of She Comes First, says we should worry more about her pleasure than our size.
"Usually when women complain about a small penis, it's also that they're not having orgasms," Kerner says. "If they're orgasming, it'll matter a hell of a lot less what size your penis is."
For the truly tiny or even those paranoid normal guys, Kerner recommends "pressing instead of thrusting in missionary position, or trying woman-on-top," both of which maximize clitoral stimulation.
Nicole suggests these positions: "Place her legs on your shoulders during missionary position, enter her from behind when she's on all fours, or, when she's on top, put a pillow under your butt to raise up your pelvis."
The British research (really just a review of previous studies) confirmed that women do indeed prefer a thick penis. The reason: "The greatest number of nerve endings are in the lowest part of the vagina," Nicole says. "So when a thick penis pushes against the labia and lower vaginal walls, it provides intense, pleasurable sensation.
"But men with thinner penises can provide a similar experience by penetrating in the positions described above or moving his hips in a circular motion while thrusting."

Why are men so worried about penis size? Part of the reason is �����������--21st century man has seen plenty of prodigious penises on his screen. Most women don't want that.
"When women watch male ���� stars humping away like lobotomized underwear models," Nicole says, "it's almost always with a cringing, confused expression."Getting pummeled with a giant penis is painful, not fun. The majority of women don't consider bouncing up and down on a Poland Spring bottle to constitute great sex."

Herbenick, a researcher at Indiana University, says penile worries arise from "cultural myths and stereotypes about penis size that stem from television, movies, jokes told among friends, and advertising messages from companies that present false information about penis size in order to sell products that probably don't even work."
Lou Paget, Ph.D., author of The Great Lover Playbook, said point of view matters--literally."The majority of men compare themselves to something they see in adult material. They haven't seen another man's penis up close," she says. "But women see them all the time. And we see a whole range of sizes."Men only see themselves, and look at a different angle than women -- looking down.B]"In other words: Your penis looks bigger to women than it does to you.[/B]

And don't forget that there's a lot more to sexual and relationship satisfaction than penis size and positions. Like communication, Herbenick says: "Trust and believe your partner if she says, 'Honey, you're fine' or 'I like you just how you are' rather than second-guess yourself."The irony is that men spend so much time thinking about their anatomy when they should be thinking about hers. "It's a man's knowledge of female anatomy and ability to stimulate a woman in all the right ways that determines whether or not we're happy in bed," Nicole says.And don't forget foreplay. "Twenty minutes of erotic foreplay with a guy who has a penis the size of a Sharpie will be far hotter than 2 minutes of sloppy groping from a dude with a johnson the size of a FleshLight," Beland says.And finally, guess what really matters? Don't groan -- it's personality.
"Of course it's more important than any physical aspect of a man's body," Nicole says. "Any woman who thinks otherwise isn't worth dating."

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http://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/vanessa4.html

What I discovered is size does matter. It matters if it is too big and it matters because it matters to guys. But the truth is Most women(There will be the odd ones who say it is very important, but they are usually the ones who love aggressive sex.) don't care as long as the rest of the package is ideal.:)
 
FemaleInfluence;352046 said:
sorry for the same thread twice. computer glitch thought I didn't post.

Don't worry, sorted.

Good thread by the way, thank you for that.

Peace,

Mike
 
Size queens aside most women agree that size does matter but not in the way that guys think. We don't want to be hurt by it but we need to feel it. FYI ladies get out the ruler the next time you are with a guy you consider to be well hung. What you think is 8inches may actually be 5.5 to 7 inches that is average and more than enough for most women...It is no secret that women are really bad at judging length and when you tell your lover that you've had 8inches or better you should know that for sure. You could really do a number on the man's self esteem.

The above is something I posted on another site having the size debate. This is why I think female imput can work. Reading your posts for the last couple days has really given me some insight and education on what you guys really think and feel. It would be nice to educate the rest of the female population don't you think?;)

And so you know this is from a forum open to both sexes...The posts by women confirmed that size although important is not the most important and it was the men who kept insisting that women want it big. Just some food for thought.
 
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A very good thread indeed with great points, especially on it looking bigger to the person seeing it than how the man will view his own penis as he look down on it. I have tried the trick of sitting infront of the mirror while erect and for sure I can see the larger size ladies would see but when looking down from above it isnt as impressive to me.
 
bigger looks better is still common. couldn't that turn on and thereby assist the actual goal of a foreplay?
 
newbie09;352176 said:
bigger looks better is still common. couldn't that turn on and thereby assist the actual goal of a foreplay?

Oh okay I get it. Yeah I guess that if the look of it is a turn on then that would be a way to turn up the heat. Of course it needs to be in addition to other foreplay techniques.
 
i've thought sex is about put it straight in and setting up a new record every time :(

just kidding ;)
 
when i would never believe a women if she said "oh size doesnt matter" im not one of those guys are fooled by women, im not a mushroom, dont keep me in the dark and feed me on crap!
 
the are mostly calling someone small in order to damage his self-esteem.
 
crazy-horse;352218 said:
when i would never believe a women if she said "oh size doesnt matter" im not one of those guys are fooled by women, im not a mushroom, dont keep me in the dark and feed me on crap!

I understand what you are saying there are women who are full of it and will tell you it doesn't matter to them but the majority of us agree that although size is important to some degree if the rest of the package(intelligent, articulate, mature, responsible and good in bed,) is good it doesn't matter. There are size queens and for them I truly feel sorry because they are so concerned with size that they never get to know the guy.
 
well i believe most women like a big penis which i dont blame them for.
i guess its like when we guys find a women with big arse small waist and big boobs attractive, but if the girl has a nice face or sexy feminine personality, them we dont care too about big boobs etc, althoughwe would never say to those things either.
 
besides you dont know what you are always getting, a women with all the rights curves may have a manly feeling butt or hardish boobs, whilst a less sexy women may have very soft skin.
i slept with a women who wasnt much to look at bodily but her skin was so softi almost cum from just rubbing my testes on her thighs, and her pussy was like silk!
having said that, i also slept with an amazingly sexy women in 2001 and still think about her, man she had a 10/10 arse, sexy as hell!! and had really soft skin etc., so you never know, looks can be very deceiving indeed.
 
I'm telling you ���� doesn't help most of the male ��������� are chosen because of their size some of them are extremely huge like "10 inches up. This will make anyone with penis issues more insecure. I made the mistake in falling into the trap of wanting to change my penis size. Never again. Now I don't care what anyone thinks of my penis I would try and hide my penis in the gym changing rooms or showers out of embarrasement. Now I don't care we can't help what we are born with. If women judge me due to my dick size I don't want to be with them it's not my problem it's theirs. I think it's pretty harsh when some (not all) women laugh at a guy with a small penis he may pretend it didn't bother him but I can bet inside it hurts him. Yes us men still have feelings we're just good at masking them.
 
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FemaleInfluence;352059 said:
Size queens aside most women agree that size does matter but not in the way that guys think. We don't want to be hurt by it but we need to feel it. FYI ladies get out the ruler the next time you are with a guy you consider to be well hung. What you think is 8inches may actually be 5.5 to 7 inches that is average and more than enough for most women...It is no secret that women are really bad at judging length and when you tell your lover that you've had 8inches or better you should know that for sure. You could really do a number on the man's self esteem.

The above is something I posted on another site having the size debate. This is why I think female imput can work. Reading your posts for the last couple days has really given me some insight and education on what you guys really think and feel. It would be nice to educate the rest of the female population don't you think?;)

And so you know this is from a forum open to both sexes...The posts by women confirmed that size although important is not the most important and it was the men who kept insisting that women want it big. Just some food for thought.

I'm a legit 7" Pubic Bone Pressed Erect Length and 98% of women that sit on it get their cervixes rammed! Not pleasant.

Poor Size Judgement Story: I had a woman say she once sat all the way down on an 11" inch ("I measured it. My friend pumped it to 11" and I sat all the way down on it. EVERY INCH went in me). I told her I didn't believe her, and I immediately got the "You're just jealous" comment.

I then showed her pics of me, not telling her it was me, and she was like "OH MY GOD THAT'S HUGE". I then took a ruler and held one end to her pussy lips, and showed her where 11" was. IT WAS RIGHT UNDER HER RIBS!

"Are you SURE he was 11"?", I asked. She looked at me dumbfounded. "I guess not", she said.

True story.
 
stevie7inch;352875 said:
I'm a legit 7" Pubic Bone Pressed Erect Length and 98% of women that sit on it get their cervixes rammed! Not pleasant.

Poor Size Judgement Story: I had a woman say she once sat all the way down on an 11" inch ("I measured it. My friend pumped it to 11" and I sat all the way down on it. EVERY INCH went in me). I told her I didn't believe her, and I immediately got the "You're just jealous" comment.

I then showed her pics of me, not telling her it was me, and she was like "OH MY GOD THAT'S HUGE". I then took a ruler and held one end to her pussy lips, and showed her where 11" was. IT WAS RIGHT UNDER HER RIBS!

"Are you SURE he was 11"?", I asked. She looked at me dumbfounded. "I guess not", she said.

True story.

good story, happy to hear you didn't let the your jealous comment affect you. Most women are ignorant of actual size. I think it is a female trait. We can't judge distance or size.
 
femaleinfluence, from what you have encountered and from friends what do you prefer more girth or length.

When I bring this up to other woman their answer really doesnt help cause by they answer it they will make it sound as if they prefer both. But they always say "a long fat one".

From what I take from that statement is they enjoy the girth more but mentally when they see a longer one they believe that what giving most of the pleasure. Confused man looking for some advice, please clear that one up for me?
 
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